DAT-Heads Digest #727
Contents:
FS: SONY D7 (Mark Carr)
D100 Information (Yalk@aol.com)
Radiohead Euro Tour Dates ("Tony Guagliardo")
Re: Hey American Digital (American-Digital)
90meter DDS and DAT machines ("Doug Oade")
DAT Newby ISO Shows (John Fitzpatrick)
MasterDat Sale, Site update and Internet Magazine (Cassette House)
Mix Fest in Boston (Mike Hanson)
FS or trade: CAR DAT package (JohnaH1464@aol.com)
Harsh, glassy and other relevant words (bmilner)
Looking for Phish Tapers (Don Swanson and Nancy Grossman)
Inexpensive Good DAT TAPES? (Thomas Stedman)
Re: DAT-Heads Digest #722 (x-jiff-x@juno.com)
CDR trades (cc)
trouble sending mail to AOL? ("Gary Davis")
Re: IMT: Re: brad tree anyone? (Tasslehoff Burfoot)
Re: Sony TCD-D100 questions (Eugene Hu)
Sony DTC-A7 (LLee991218@aol.com)
Rechargeable pack for Aiwa HD-X3000??? (Nate DeRose)
L7 (Mike Hanson)
Manual cleaning questions (SugarNuggs@aol.com)
From: mcarr@tessi.com (Mark Carr)
Subject: FS: SONY D7
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 97 10:57:33 PDT
I am selling this unit so I can upgrade to a D-100
I have owned this unit since March of 1997. I purchased it from the original
owner, who purchased it from OADE brothers in 1995.
When I bought it in March, it had less than 100 hrs. on the heads.
I have used it for about 50 hrs max this summer for a total of
less than 150 hrs.
I havn't used 90meter tapes in it and neither did the original purchaser.
I have never had any problems with it.
It works perfect and looks perfect, although thier are a few light scratches
in the plastic display window. Nothing unusual though.
I have the original AC power supply, the deck, the little case, and
the manual is en route from the original owner to me right now.
I am asking $400 plus shipping.
Please don't offer less than $375.
I will accept the highest offer in a few days....
Regards,
Mark Carr
mcarr@tessi.com
503-672-8704 WK
503-293-6096 HM
From: Yalk@aol.com
Subject: D100 Information
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 14:42:51 -0400 (EDT)
Some of you have requested info from me regarding the new Sony D100. It is
such a new model, there really is no brochure or anything available yet.
BUT
I have posted at http://www.klay.com/datasheets
And enter "D100" and you can look at what I have from Sony's private web
page.
Regards,
Klay Anderson
http://www.klay.com
1.800.FOR.KLAY
From: "Tony Guagliardo <guagliardo@un.org>
Subject: Radiohead Euro Tour Dates
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 97 15:54:14 -0500
Need tapers for the following Radiohead shows. If anyone can tape or plans on
taping, please contact me at <guagliardo@un.org>
Thanks a lot.
-Tony
October [European tour]
Mon 13 - Ahoy: Rotterdam, Holland
Sun 12 - L'Aeronef: Lille, France [eurostar stop]
Mon 13 - Ahoy: Rotterdam, Holland
Tue 14 - Vorst Nationaal (Forest National): Brussels, Belgium [eurostar stop]
Thu 16 - Spirgatan: Zurich, Switzerland
Fri 17 - Salle de Schiltigheim: Strasbourg, France
Sat 18 - Zenith: Paris, France [eurostar stop]
Mon 20 - Summin: Grenoble, France
Tue 21 - Dome Zenith: Marseille, France
Wed 22 - Bikini: Toulouse, France
Fri 24 - La Riviera: Madrid, Spain
Sat 25 - Zeleste: Barcelona, Spain
Sun 26 - Sala Jam: Bergara, Spain
Tue 28 - Rolling Stone: Milan, Italy
Wed 29 - Vox Club: Modena, Itlay
Thu 30 - Tenax: Firenze, Italy
November [UK/Europe tour]
Sat 1 - Babylon: Munich, Germany
Sun 2 - Biskuithalle: Bonn, Germany
Mon 3 - Huxley's: Berlin, Germany
Wed 5 - Solnahallen: Stockholm, Sweden (Tickets are 200 Swedish Kroner)
Thu 6 - Rockefeller: Oslo, Norway
Fri 7 - Huset: Lund, Sweden
Sun 9 - Vega: Copenhagen, Denmark
Mon 10 - Capitol: Hannover, Germany
Tue 11 - Stadthalle: Offenbach, Germany
UK Dates supported by DJ Shadow and Teenage Fanclub
Sat 15 - Cardiff Arena
Sun 16 - Wembley Arena
Mon 17 - Manchester Nynex Arena
Wed 19 - Birmingham NEC
Thu 20 - Aberdeen Exhibition Centre
From: American-Digital <larry@am-dig.com>
Subject: Re: Hey American Digital
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 16:06:57 -0500
Hi Keith-
Hows it going? Hope the R500 is treating you right.
Just to set the record straight we don't deal in any
"B" stock products. Everything we sell is top quality
and fully guaranteed.
Hope this helps!
Dan & Larry
http://www.am-dig.com
888-USA-DATS
>Has anyone ordered these? If so are
>they real or ol "B" stock stuff?
>
><<Sony DTC-A6 Perfect play deck $649
>Sony R500 Perfect record deck $1099
>
>DATs Maxell No-logo 90m $4.29
> KAO No-logo 90m $3.49
> Sony DT120 $5.39
>
>Cassettes MXS90 $1.89
> MXS100 $2.09
> MX110 $1.99>>
From: "Doug Oade" <Doug@oade.com>
Subject: 90meter DDS and DAT machines
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 16:29:49 -0400
Hello !
I asked Fostex, HHB, Sony and Tascam ;
"What is your policy on using 90 meter DDS tapes
in your DAT machines."
This is what I got so far....
Fostex says...
From: rick@fostex.com (Rick Cannata)
Subject: Re: Fostex Website
We would prefer you use audio grade only rather than data or computer
grade.
Sony says....
To: doug@oade.com
Subject: Re: 90 meter DDS tape
The Sony PCM R500 and PCM R700 are designed to work
with audio grade tapes only. We have found that the
90 meter DDS tape tend to clog the heads. We advise
the use of audio grade tape only.
Thank You,
Henry \ Pro Audio Support
Tascam says...
To: doug@oade.com
Subject: 90 meter DDS tape -Reply
Mr. Oade,
All TASCAM DAT decks are designed to operate with
maximum tape lengths of 120 minutes.
Thank you for your interest in TASCAM products.
HHB says....
To:doug@oade.com
Subject: 90 meter DDS tape
Dear Doug
I am not sure where you are getting your information from, we actually
only
recommend our DAT tape for DAT machines, there is no benefit at all in
using DDS tape, as the formulation is different, and that particular
product is designed for Data Storage.
Thank you for your interest.
David Beesley
Panasonic info ....
For some interesting info on what Panasonic determined in
their Secacus N.J. lab, read Rob Eaton's post to dat-heads
dated Oct. 22 1996.
As always, due to the amount of misinformation posted to this group I
advise anyone concerned about this issue to confirm any post.
From: John Fitzpatrick <jwf@aretha.jax.org>
Subject: DAT Newby ISO Shows
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 16:35:47 -0400
Well, after weeks (if not months) of debating going to DAT vs.
staying with analog, I've finally decided to take the plunge and purchased
a Tascam DA-20mkII (next unit in a month or so). While my analog
collection contains many fine shows (800+ hrs), I'm now realizing that I
have to start all over again with the new media. Soooooo, I am formally
asking for a little help in getting the transition started via the blanks,
thanks, & postage routine. If any kind soles would be willing to help out
with GD/JG/Dylan, it would be very appreciated and I'll recipricate the
kindness by providing a D>A offer to the newgroup for each DAT received in
return. I'm hoping to get a few choice shows that will allow me to get into
the cloning mode once the second deck arrives so I won't have to bother for
tapes in the future. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
Peace....Fitz...
=====================================================
John W. Fitzpatrick, P.E. Bar Harbor, ME 04609
Senior Mechanical Engineer (207) 288-6138
The Jackson Laboratory (207) 288-6147 FAX
600 Main Street e-mail: jwf@aretha.jax.org
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"Such a long long time to be gone, and a short time to be there....."
From: Cassette House <artmuns@tape.com>
Subject: MasterDat Sale, Site update and Internet Magazine
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 15:30:32
Hi Folks,
I'm having a sale on our 180 minute MasterDATs. Regular price is
$5.00 at 10. The sale price is $4.50 at 10 and $4.25 at 50.
You may combine lengths on the MasterDATs for the lower pricing.
The MasterDATs have been a great tape for us. They are used by many
recording studios, radio stations and of course DAT-Heads!
I've upgraded the ordering system on our site so it should be much
easier. You can also search the catalog of products now. The
address is http://www.tape.com.
Last but not least. There is a nice article on Cassette House
(and 2 other Internet success stories) in the October issue of Internet
Magazine, a Ziff-Davis publication. Our success would not have been
possible without the support we have received from DAT-Heads, starting
way back in 1989!
Thanks to all
Art
From: Mike Hanson <mihanson@mailbox.syr.edu>
Subject: Mix Fest in Boston
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 16:51:05 -0400 (EDT)
Hello,
Mix 98.5 in Boston is having free concerts on Colubus Day weekend.
I should be able to get most of the acts on Saturday, but I then have to
go to Brad at the Axis. I'll probably not get to go to much on
Sunday, so if any DAT-Head is going, I'd be interested in getting the
sets from Barenaked Ladies, Big Head Todd and Sarah McLachlan. Here are
the details. Thanks.
Mike Hanson
<mihanson@mailbox.syr.edu>
When: Oct 11 (11-7) & Oct 12 (12-8)
Where: City Hall Plaza
Cost: Free!
Acts-
Saturday
Dogs Eye View
10,000 Maniacs
Sister Hazel
The Monkees
Sunday
Duncan Sheik
Lisa Loeb
Paula Cole
Big Head Todd & The Monsters
Barenaked Ladies
Sarah McLachlan
For more info: www.mix985.com (or 1-800-MIX-FEST)
From: JohnaH1464@aol.com
Subject: FS or trade: CAR DAT package
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 18:06:56 -0400 (EDT)
How much for the Dodge Colt? :)
-- John
Former 1983 Dodge Colt owner.
From: bmilner <bmilner@netcom.com>
Subject: Harsh, glassy and other relevant words
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 14:45:20 -0700 (PDT)
I just saw a post from Max that provoked a response.
I don't understand how one could deny the usefulness of using terms like
Harsh, glassy, and glare in describing audio - in general and especially
digital audio. I don't mind your accusing the press of being dinosaurs,
that's a whole other issue but for those of us who can hear the difference
between digital formats and A/D & D/A converters, those words are pretty
descriptive and useful.
I have a Sony A6 DAT machine (among others) and find it's sound harsh and
glare-y compared with other DAT machines I have heard. I sounds slightly
metallic and brash in the treble. The thing might measure flat but it
still sounds tipped up and thin to me compared to more expensive digital
products. Digital has a bunch of known artifacts. Just listen to first
generation CD players compared to even the $70 players now and you can
hear them. What's to say the difference won't be as dramatic in a few
more years? I hear those artifacts (and others in the chain) often as a
strident harsh sound. I hear digital distortion as metallic and I hear
jitter and a irritating hashy sheen over the music. It's fatiguing too in
the long term.
Perhaps you are suggesting there are better adjectives to describe these
sounds and I might agree if you would suggest some.
If you simply can't hear the difference in various digital set-ups then
that's one thing. Some people think all guitar amps sound the same too
for some reason. (?) But, don't deny the usefulness of those words to
describe what many of us do hear.
Brandon Milner
bmilner@netcom(dot)com
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From: Don Swanson and Nancy Grossman <dsng@epix.net>
Subject: Looking for Phish Tapers
Reply-To: dsng@epix.net
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 14:42:36 -0400
Any phish tapers arrived anywhere yet. I ordered them, but missed on 5
out of 5 shows. Bummer. I hope others have more luck.
Peace, Don S.
From: Thomas Stedman <tstedman@adobe.com>
Subject: Inexpensive Good DAT TAPES?
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 16:16:49 -0700 (PDT)
Hi,
Where can I order Inexpensive Good Quality DAT TAPES?
I'm not on this list yet, so please include a reply to
tstedman@adobe.com
Thanks,
Thomas
From: x-jiff-x@juno.com
Subject: Re: DAT-Heads Digest #722
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 13:57:44 -0400
>From: Toezmysoul@aol.com
>Subject: Re: More CD One-offs
>Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 15:59:04 -0400 (EDT)
>In a message dated 9/20/97 12:46:22 PM, Nate DeRose
><nated@earth.goddard.edu>
>wrote:
>>> I just had to buy a CD-R drive and decided to start selling one-of
>>>CDs.
>>Or you can have it done for $10 cheaper per disc!
>>
>>Contact Nate DeRose at Mobius Frog Productions:
>Or if you guys keep up a bidding war you'll get down to the price of
>blanks + postage where you should be anyway. Does making a
>profit off of one CD make it any less "Bootlegging"? Hmmm.....
>"one off bootlegging"
Not to be a prick, but mastering a CD takes a heluva lot more time and
effort than copying any tapes... If people want to offer the service to
others for a small profit for the time that it takes to di it, then let
them.
But if you want to start one-offing CDs for me at blanks+postage, I have
about 20 tapes I want to get put on CD. When will you start? (Oh, if
you don't have a CD-writer, and the soundcard and all, then it's only a
few hundred dollars extra to start doing that, on top of the cost of the
DAT player, digicables, etc...)
Daiv
(who is against profiting off bands, but
also against thinking the world is free.)
=====
Tugboat Annie - The Not-Quite Official Page - New Address!
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/4998
From: scaler@infomagic.com (cc)
Subject: CDR trades
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 16:44:30 -0700
Hey DAT-heads:
I have several extra CDR's that i've run off and was wondering if anyone
else out there wanted to trade for CDR. I'd be into trading for DAT's if
they have *no* dropouts, noise, or cuts, etc. I'm of course interested in
the dead, but would love to increase my bluegrass collection (Bush, Rice,
etc.)
Here are the extra CDR's i'd like to trade (all are great SBD's):
2-6-72 Jerry & friends, 2discs
9-26-91, 3-discs
3-7-82 II, JGB-one disc
Thanks again....
cc
From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com>
Subject: trouble sending mail to AOL?
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:05:10 +0000
I've finally realized that a *great deal* of the mail I send to AOL
addresses never goes through. Has anyone else identified this
problem? (sorry for the lack of direct dat content)
--Gary
From: Tasslehoff Burfoot <gv1@axe.humboldt.edu>
Subject: Re: IMT: Re: brad tree anyone?
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:18:24 -0700 (PDT)
the brad tree is now officially **CLOSED**
the final tree structure is posted online (again,
http://www.humboldt.edu/~gv1/tree.txt)
I am sending this structure via email right now to those who have
requested it thus...
thanks to everyone for signing up--hope you all enjoy the tape as much as
I do.
a *big* thank you to everyone who is doing a branch.
a **huge** thank you to all the D/A people.
may the music live forever, and may the documentation get better and
spread further :)
ok luv ya go bye now
-glen
have a day mate!
_______________________________________________________________________________
Glen Vomacka--gv1@axe.humboldt.edu
1140 F Street Apt D
Arcata, CA 95521
(707) 825-7811
bootlist on request only.
_______________________________________________________________________________
From: eugene@borchard.ladev.tandem.com (Eugene Hu)
Subject: Re: Sony TCD-D100 questions
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 17:42:15 -0700
>>As long as there are batteries inside, the deck should *smoothly*
>>transition from external power to internal power.
>
>The only deck I know that comes close is the Aiwa HHb-1 (aka Marantz
>PMD-700); however, that one needs a switch to decide whether to use
>internal AA's or internal rechargeable (it holds both); you can flip
>the switch while taping without glitching. (One setting will use the
>external power instead, if it's available.)
My Panasonic SV-255 switches between internal and external power
without glitching. I think the HHb PDR-1000 does as well, but since
I don't own one, I haven't had the chance to torture it in cruel and
unusual ways :-).
-Eugene
From: LLee991218@aol.com
Subject: Sony DTC-A7
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 20:48:58 -0400 (EDT)
Hi Everyone,
Looking for anyone with info/advice regarding Sony DTC-A7 deck. I'm
considering buying it used from a music store. Need to know if its worth
buying. I've been told it does not have SCMS, but I believe it does. How do
I defeat SCMS? Can I get a manual from Sony?
I'd appreciate any feedback from anyone who owns or has had some experience
with this deck.
Thanks,
Linda
From: Nate DeRose <nated@earth.goddard.edu>
Subject: Rechargeable pack for Aiwa HD-X3000???
Reply-To: nated@earth.goddard.edu
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 21:46:17 -0700
Does anyone know where to get a pack made for this deck?
It's quite battery hungry, and I'm sick of feeding it alkaline
cells..... .. :)
Thanks in advance for any info!
Nate
P.S. Please reply via email to save bandwidth.
From: Mike Hanson <mihanson@mailbox.syr.edu>
Subject: L7
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 21:43:54 -0400 (EDT)
If anyone is going to any of these L7 dates, I'd be interested in trading
clones. I have a master from Syracuse, NY 09/18/97 with excellent sound
(9-)
09/23/97 Richmond VA
09/24/97 Winston-Salem NC
09/25/97 Charleston SC
09/26/97 Atlanta GA
09/27/97 Pensacola FL
09/28/97 New Orleans LA
09/30/97 Houston TX
10/01/97 Austin TX
10/03/97 Tempe AZ
10/04/97 Flagstaff AZ
10/05/97 Las Vegas NV
10/09/97 West Hollywood CA
10/10/97 Same
Mike Hanson
<mihanson@mailbox.syr.edu>
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From: SugarNuggs@aol.com
Subject: Manual cleaning questions
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 22:04:03 -0400 (EDT)
Hi all. I'm apologizing in advance as I know this has been asked before.
Anyway, I was wondering if someone out there could carefully outline the
appropriate way to manually clean my decks. I know to use foam swabs
but there's where my knowledge ends. The decks in question are the
DA-P1 and the DA-20. It would be useful to know what cleaner to use,
etc., etc. I have a wet and dry cleaner here but, I don't trust them. A
URL where this information exists would be useful as well....if one exists.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Tony
SugarNuggs@aol.com
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