DAT-Heads Digest #133
Contents:
stealth taping tips ("Glenn")
Don't Buy any DAT Gear this week! ("Gary Davis")
Re: DAT-Heads Digest #128 (Rando0)
Wired Remote for PCM-M1 (Adam Aronson)
Re: Panasonic SV255 (Seth Breidbart)
Re: Taper's Sections (Seth Breidbart)
Re: 7-pin on DAT to digital mini-plug (3.5mm) on SGI? (Heiko Purnhagen)
Re: I have some nice Hendrix here. ("J. Haynes") ("Gary Davis")
GRAND FUNK RAILROAD (RAM110)
Pearl Jam Boot CD ("Sullivan, Glenn")
90m tape choice (andyhof)
Attn. Lunatec Buyers (Michael Hanson)
Dual microphone adaptor (carlos martinez)
Audio Alchemy DITB for cheap? (carlos martinez)
Does a SBD of GD Pittsburgh 6.30.95 exist? (Clay Caroselli)
Apology for large binary. Thanks for thoughtful flames. ("J. Haynes")
ann arbor tapers ("David W. Bothner")
earplugs etc. (Jmratman)
Re: CD players with digital outs ("B Baier")
Newbie taper advice needed ("John Blackmore")
taping Ben Harper/Greyboy Allstars (Gardner William)
Strange Question (Steven Kingsley)
D100 - manual cleaning (Anders Johansson)
From: "Glenn" <glenns@pixi.com>
Subject: stealth taping tips
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 01:16:58 -1000
From: Jay Lyons <jayl@mailhub.southeast.net>
Subject: re:Stealthing tips
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:03:17 -0500
> sneak my gear in two separate fanny packs while under my shirt.
>One holds my deck and the other holds my battery pack.
I find that putting stuff in the waist band of my shorts or pants and then
putting the fanny pack over that,this way they check the fanny pack's
contents instead of groping you. Othertimes I have just hurried past the
security and blended in with the crowd before they caught up with me.
>I suit up in the restroom. There's usually a lot weirder stuff going on in
>there for you to be paranoid.
Agreed. Bathroom stalls work well.
>I'll try and stand FOB or where ever, all depends on what I expect outta
>the crowd (depends on the bands music). Sometimes at stages' edge. Often
>times by the board. Or sometimes in the meat of the volume if the crowds
>routy between the stax in the sweet spot.
I usually like to stand in front of the board, but not so close as to let
the soundguy check me out.
>Did I mention..? I do wear earplugs.
So do I , hearing protection is important. I use the E.A..R. type diposable
foam plugs mainly cause I get them from work for free. They are good for
-29db pad. I still hear everything pretty good.
>I'll stand as still as possible horizontally, while facing forward. But, I
>do bop my head up & down as if I'm groovin' just so I don't look like a
taper.
I like to do a weird wave kinda motion with my arms....so then people think
I must be a REAL freak since I dance funny and wear silly hats.
>Shows over, so what! I don't do anything to check my deck knowing there's
>plenty of tape left. Again, I can fix at home.
It can be a lot of fun letting your deck run as you walk out of a show. My
friend has great recordings of himself buying a veggie burrito in the lot
after a Dead show.
Makes great filler!
>Avoid noisy folks or move.
>Enjoy the show.
>Then enjoy it again!
Allways!
======glenn
P.S. I once allmost got busted at Springfest in Pensacola. I had Nak 300
caps in a hat with the cables coming out of my hat to the bodies in a
backpack. A cop came up behind me inbetween songs and asked what it was, I
made some weird hand sign motions to him and mumbled in a funny voice
"thier tone generators.I am partially deaf" ....he said " oh oh ok yea I
thought it was something" and then walked away!
I got it all on tape too! ( Disclaimer: this may only work in southern
hick towns)
Happy Taping : )
From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com>
Subject: Don't Buy any DAT Gear this week!
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 03:20:54 +0000
The DAT Store will be having the biggest sale in its history next
week...virtually everything in the store at or below cost...
If you buy anything before checking these prices, you'll wish you had
waited!
--Gary
From: Rando0 <Rando0@aol.com>
Subject: Re: DAT-Heads Digest #128
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:24:15 EST
In a message dated 98-03-18 04:01:06 EST, you write:
<< Question: Is there some kind of DAP1 battery I can buy/construct that will
use disposble batteries? I don't really know how this thing works, or if
something like this is possible. Can you purchase the little 3-pin adaptor
that the Eco-Change plugs into? I do know that disposables will get very
expensive, but if I'm gonna do the tour, I may as well tape...and the
Eco-Charge won't cut it with out an AC source every day to recharge...
So who would I need to contact, or what would I need to buy, if this is
indeed possible?
Thanks
Jason
>>
Hey jason I run a dap1 as well, here's the quick and easy $40 dollar
solution!!! Goto a local electronics store and buy an INVERTER. This device
plugs into your cigarettelighter and turns 12V into 120V!! Bring your wall
wart for the echo charge, and VOILA!! you're charging yer battery as you drive
to the next show : ) If you are going to be doing festivals, i would suggest
having several batteries with you on-hand inside the show :) Here is a quick
rundown on my set up....(1) 12V 6.5AHr rechargeable battery pack , Dap1, the
power supply xformer(yes, the one that plugs into the wall), and the INVERTER!
I plug the INVERTER into the battery pack(one has a male cigarette lighter
receptacle, the other a female), then plug my xformer into the INVERTER, and
VOILA!!, I'm portable YET, running off of 120V!! I get 8 RELIABLE hrs. of
power for my Dap1 with Phantom ON and the WHOLE set up cost me a mere $113!!!!
Less than HALF the price of the echo charge!! Only drawback is if size is a
limitation, my battery pack is twice as thick as the echo charge. Now, the
next BEST thing to this set up..... after the show is done and i'm heading
down the road IN MY CAR, to the next gig, i plug the INVERTER into my
cigarette lighter and then plug the wall wart for RECHARGING my BATTERY PACK
in, and yup, you guessed it, i have 120V in my car!!! Hope this helps you and
all the other DAP1 owners out!! BTW you Sony owners can do the same thing by
using a 6V rechargeable battery. You'll only need the INVERTER to recharge
yer battery down the road. Otherwise you can keep investing in D
batteries....
happy trails,
Randy
From: Adam Aronson <adam@aronson.net>
Subject: Wired Remote for PCM-M1
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:27:46 -0500
Does anyone know the part number for the wired remote (that plugs in
alongside the headphones) on the Sony PMC-M1? It is included with the
Euro model but not with the US. I _believe_ it is the same as the one for
the D100.
Adam Aronson
From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Panasonic SV255
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:34:37 -0500 (EST)
>Can this deck play DATs recorded at 48K or can it possibly ony play 44?
The sv-255 is perfectly happy with 48 kHz tapes.
>The only analog ins are XLR. The deck has a digital mini-plug (3.5mm) that is
>(I think) one way only (output?).
Yes, it's output.
> Is there an adapter/connector that connects
>the the mini-plug interface (3.5mm) to a Sony 7-pin.
Going by was of an RCA connection is easiest. (I think Panasonic
provides that cable.)
Seth
From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Taper's Sections
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 06:43:22 -0500 (EST)
> There are many reasons to aoid FOB taping,
>better sound quality in the TS is not one of them
Counterexample: The Wetlands
> Those bands that maintain Taper's sections, do they crack down on
>FOB taping even when the FOB taper is taping stealthily?
Some more than others. (In some cases, I think the band doesn't care
but the venue might.)
> BGP did so with a passion
Not around here (NYC), at least not that I could notice.
Seth
From: Heiko Purnhagen <purnhage@tnt.uni-hannover.de>
Subject: Re: 7-pin on DAT to digital mini-plug (3.5mm) on SGI?
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:47:10 +0100
Hello Chris, DAT-Heads,
Chris Reed <creed@multigen.com> wrote:
> Recently, I bought a Sony TCD-D100 portable DAT with a 7-pin digital
> out. My longterm goal is to take my recordings from DAT to CD audio
> format.
>
> I have an SGI Indigo2 computer with an audio board that has a, "Serial
> digital input (supports AES and S/PDIF encoding)," according to the
> manual. The digital in jack on the SGI is a mini plug interface (yes,
> it is digital--not analog) that is 3.5mm
>
> Is there an adapter/connector that connects the 7-pin out on the D100 to
> the mini-plug interface (3.5mm).
I rememeber that the SGI digi in accepts S/P-DIF levels - so you would
just need an "7-pin -> S/P-DIF out" adapter to get into your SGI.
Unfortunately, Sony doesn't have such a cable, but there are some people
out there on this reflector selling such things (check DAT heads web
page). If you dare hacking it yourself, there is quite some info on this
issue on my dat web pages:
http://www.fet.uni-hannover.de/~purnhage/dat/dat.html
Happy xfering
Heiko
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From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com>
Subject: Re: I have some nice Hendrix here. ("J. Haynes")
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:34:16 +0000
I think he posted the music itself to the list!
--G
From: RAM110 <RAM110@aol.com>
Subject: GRAND FUNK RAILROAD
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:43:32 EST
In search of any live Grand Funk Railroad !!
em to Bob M. RAM110@AOL.COM
From: "Sullivan, Glenn" <GSullivan@DavidClark.com>
Subject: Pearl Jam Boot CD
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:04:40 -0500
I need some quick assistance proving a point:
A friend of mine almost bought a Pearl Jam boot CD at a local record
store when we stopped in yesterday. I flat out refused to drive him
home if he did, and promised him that it was possible to get all of
those discs (most with better quality) from our little community. So,
if anyone has the boot CD "Pearl Jam Down Under", or a copy of the show
itself (3/17/95 Flinders Park, Melbourne Australia, featuring Nirvana's
Dave Grohl on Drums) and would be willing to do a quick B&P or trade for
CD-R's from my list (I'm a uni-decker), please contact me as soon as
possible. This was a soundboard recording, and is labeled "broadcast
recording", so it might be a FM>DAT recording.
Thanks in advance for any of your help,
Glenn Sullivan
GSullivan@DavidClark.com
From: andyhof <andyhof@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: 90m tape choice
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:12:46 -0500
What 90m tape has given folks the least
problems?
Regards,
andrew
From: Michael Hanson <mihanson@mailbox.syr.edu>
Subject: Attn. Lunatec Buyers
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 08:56:07 -0500 (EST)
Hello Lunatec buyers!
I'm looking for a used preamp for my AKG 463's. If you plan on
upgrading your current preamp to the Lunatec, drop me a line! I'd be
interested in hearing about your soon to be replaced unit, and possibly
buy it from you.
Mike Hanson
<mihanson@mailbox.syr.edu>
DAT list on request.
From: carlos martinez <carlmart@centroin.com.br>
Subject: Dual microphone adaptor
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:03:01 -0300 (EST)
Well, I got no answers for this query. It's strange that nobody seemed
interested or curious on this matter. It was a good chance to get a
balanced preamp for a reasonable price.
Let me tell you what else I could find out.
1) There are at least three models on the market, going from $175 to $250.
2) They are all passive preamps, that is they have a transformer that
converts balanced to unbalanced.
3) They all have volume pots and switches for mic/line input levels
4) They do not provide phantom-power (their biggest fault for me)
5) They do not provide low-cut (easy to provide though, using the mic/line
switch or adding another switch)
The worst fault,as I said, is the lack of phantom power and the limited
space to put two 9-v batteries inside. As I haven't handled them I don't
know if one or two batteries would fit inside. A DC-DC circuit might be
easy to fit, though, as phantom current is very little.
Any suggestions?
A cheap way to go balanced on a D8/D100/M1 folks!
Carlos E. Martinez
From: carlos martinez <carlmart@centroin.com.br>
Subject: Audio Alchemy DITB for cheap?
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:03:14 -0300 (EST)
List friends,
Is there a place where I can still get a new DAC-in-the-Box for cheap?
Around $100 maybe?
The DITB is a good field for modifications, and buying it cheap would be
great to try as my first DAC.
Carlos
From: Clay Caroselli <carosellic@clpgh.org>
Subject: Does a SBD of GD Pittsburgh 6.30.95 exist?
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:32:50 EST
Hey everybody,
I was surfing through Jim's Grateful Dead Tape List Page last night and
stumbled across a section entitled DAT discussion. Within the 1995 section,
there was a mention of this show (6.30.95) being soundboard. Is this true? If
it is, would someone mind setting up a trade with me. It was my last GD show :(
-Clay
From: "J. Haynes" <kc7fys@sa2.so-net.or.jp>
Subject: Apology for large binary. Thanks for thoughtful flames.
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 23:28:22 +0900
I'm sorry I must've not checked the address when responding to the list.
Sorry for all that headache. MANY creative souls used their modems and
brains and emailed me the whole thing back. I guess if I'd done it on
purpose I'd especially deserve it. Thanks!
Jonathan
From: "David W. Bothner" <dwb@ameritech.net>
Subject: ann arbor tapers
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:58:59 -0500
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From: Jmratman <Jmratman@aol.com>
Subject: earplugs etc.
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:03:08 EST
If I don't have access to earplugs, I take a napkin or toilet paper, rip a
piece off and ball it up and put it in my ear. I don't shove it my ear canal
since I don't want to have to get tweezers to get them out!! I find that this
method filters out the shrill and definitely takes the edge off. Why leave a
show early or stand way in the back where you can't see or hear anything?
Give it a try. It's better than PAIN!
Just my $.02 worth.
Jim Ratner
From: "B Baier" <baierb@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: CD players with digital outs
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 07:22:16 PST
In DAT-Heads Digest #129, Bob Berta wrote:
>Looking for a CD player with digital out but needs to be in S/PDIF
>or AES/EBU. I have seen a few that have optical outs but not the
>non-optical.
Hmmm....AFAIK, S/PDIF and AES/EDU are the only digital formats
out there. However, S/PDIF can be carried over an optical or
coax interface.
>Anyone have any recommendations?
- There may be others, but the only CD palyer I have seen
with coax S/PDIF is the Harmon/Kardon FLD 8300 5-disc changer.
However, the manufacturer has stated in a service bulletin
that it needed a factory mod to bring the digital output
voltage levels up to specifications.
- You could buy a CD player with optical out, then get a box
that converts optical to coax. Fostex, Core Sound, and probably
others sell these for $75-$100.
- A "pro" CD player will likely have AES/EBU out, but it will
be fairly expensive. Also keep in mind, AES/EBU does not
transfer CD track-marks or Start-IDs. They're just not part
of the digital AES/EBU bit-stream.
Lotsa luck.
Bruce Baier
baierb@hotmail.com
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From: "John Blackmore" <blackmor@iconn.net>
Subject: Newbie taper advice needed
Reply-To: <blackmor@iconn.net>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:48:03 -0500
I'm planning on taping two of the upcoming Phish shows, and it'll be my
first taping experience, so I don't want to @!#!@ it up! I have a D7, and
I'd like to perform some kind of test or "dry run" to make sure it'll
perform well at the show. Any thoughts on this? I have a D-cell battery
pack, so I want to test that it will last long enough. I will be getting a
patch, so I also want to verify that it will accurately clone a digital
source (if that's the right terminology). Trouble is, it's my only deck.
Would taping an analog source be a reasonable test?
Next, I'll be looking for a second deck very soon, and would like to gather
some input. Yes, I dug through the archives, but there's very little out
there with folks that bought a portable first, esp. a D7. I think I need an
SCMS-free deck, so even a '11' source will become a '00' clone. I'm
especially interested in what people have to say about the following:
Tascam DA-20 mkII Panasonic SV-xxxx
Tascam DA-30 mkII Sony R-500
or any other home decks that might be recommended. I'd be willing to spend
up to about $1500, including all cabling and such. I'd also like to know a
lot more about digital cabling, I've seen coax, 7-pin, S/PDIF (sp?), and
optical, and don't really understand the compatibilty/tradeoffs and what not
between them. If there's a web source on this stuff, I'd love to know about
it. Thanks for the space.
-John Blackmore
blackmor@iconn.net
From: wgardner@thomas.butler.edu (Gardner William)
Subject: taping Ben Harper/Greyboy Allstars
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:52:23 -0500 (EST)
Hello,
I was wondering if anybody has has any luck on taping this current tour.
I'm seeing them this Monday at the Vogue in Indianapolis. I really want
to tape Greyboy but am not interested in recording Ben Harper. The
Neumann U87's I'd like to run are the furthest thing from stealthy.
Has anyone tape Greyboy but not Ben Harper?
Thanks for the help,
Bill Gardner
From: Steven Kingsley <Steven@airsys.net>
Subject: Strange Question
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:59:39 -0500
Anyone know of any Car Stereo that can RECORD? Wouldn't that be a great
selling point? I'd buy it. Even analog would be cool, just to tape stuff on
the radio, driving down the road. Why not right? Imagine making a mix on
your car stereo on a long drive, hahaha, Do the car dat decks I've heard of
record?... maybe the minidisk?...
Sorry 'bout the tangent, Just wished my car stereo would record this morning.
Steve
Air Systems Inc. http://www.airsys.net/
Dat List At: http://www.airsys.net/dat
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From: Anders Johansson <ajo@algonet.se>
Subject: D100 - manual cleaning
Reply-To: ajo@algonet.se
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:05:15 +0100
Well - one day I only had to do it - due to high error rates on the D100
I had to try to clean the head manually. If you read the service manual
you have to disassembly the hole thing to get close to the head - not a
good idea - so this is what I did:
- First the usual disclaimer - if you don't know how to clean dat heads
- don't start with the D100 or D7/8 - get some practice on your video
recorder
first!
- I used the same way to open the D100 as I use when opening the D7:
take away the two screws on the right side of the door - don't loose the
screws in the carpet!
- Unhook the door from the cassette holder mechanism - move the door
gently "down" - eventually the door gets loose from the cassette holder.
- Place the door wide open to the deck - but be very careful - DON'T
BEND the flat cables too much! This is _very_ important! (Also important
when you open the D7/8). If you bend the cables they might break.
- Now you can see the head behind the plate (item 63 in the manual) -
unfortunately this plate almost covers the head - not so on the D7. It
is hard to touch the head. I used a small sick with Tascams
dat-head-cleaning fabric ("Savina") moistened with iso propyl alcohol.
You can move
the head trough the holes on the plate - very gently of course. Rotate
the head the usual way. If you are not familiar with this - don't do it!
- Put the door back on the mechanism with the two screws.
- The D100 is more difficult to clean than the D7/8 - the head is more
covered. May be some one on the list knows a better way!!
- Anyway - my D100 has no errors anymore!
Anders
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