DAT-Heads Digest #170
Contents:
FS: Radio Head Tix ("daniel loevy")
The most bootlegged bands (Craig Hogan)
J-card program on web available (H Scott Matthews)
More on J-card program (H Scott Matthews)
missing digests ("L. Sean Kennedy")
downsampling, etc. (was Re: Stand-alone CDR VS Computer CDR) (Kai Matthews)
CD-R question ("Marcus Winfree")
Need someone to speak with about taping. (Taylor)
Will Bernard 4-tet : tapes & tour (Jon Weber)
try caseliner ("Chris Bold")
Spiritualized Spring Tour (dave)
Media life ("Eric C. Honour, Jr.")
"Y" cable mono-ing (Nick Hickman)
Aiwa HD-S1 DAT portable DAT recorder FOR SALE ("J. Haynes")
Victoria Williams?.. (Jonathan Mikos)
Re: DAT-Heads Digest #167 (Boxcephus)
RE: Sennheiser Requests (andyhof)
Not really relevant, but.... (ONelson807)
Anyone using Fuji DSS tape? ("Clint Spaar")
tapetree.com Online & Open tree's ("nick@tapetree.com")
j-card tape label program (Bob Ramstad)
Extra DATs (David McGee)
Email change (Greg Poulos)
DMB 4.18.98 Tree Signup & DMB PermaTree Signup (Kirk Willingham)
From: "daniel loevy" <dloevy@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: Radio Head Tix
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 12:09:55 PDT
Friend of mine has 4 tix to radiohead easter Sunday at Toronto.
Will Send overnight C.O.D\
E-mail if interested.
Dan
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From: Craig Hogan <chogan@primenet.com>
Subject: The most bootlegged bands
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 09:52:59 -0700 (MST)
Here,
http://zoonation.com/news/u2booted_DM.html
You will find a list of the most bootlegged bands in Britain. What I
found interesting is that not only do they say that bootlegs "are
starving the industry of funds", but they go so far as to say that the
money obtained from their sale is actually USED TO KILL PEOPLE. They
say "very often the profits fall into the hands of organised criminals or
paramilitary groups operating in Northern Ireland who use them to
finance their campaigns of violence".
Wow.
Craig
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[ Craig Hogan ! Cure TAB archive, live Cure recordings: ]
[ chogan@primenet.com ! http://www.primenet.com/~chogan/index.html ]
[ Software Engineer ! "Smear this man across the wall" ]
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From: H Scott Matthews <hsm+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: J-card program on web available
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:07:08 -0400 (EDT)
Hi all
I've seen some recent queries about available programs to make j-cards.
My friend Steve and I made just such a system available on the web last
year. So those of you who have visited in the past should come back and
see what we've been up to lately.
As always, you can find Steve and Scott's Internet Tape Labeler at:
http://www.gsia.cmu.edu/andrew/hsm/label/
hope you like it!
scott
| H. Scott Matthews | Doctoral Student, Economics |
| 6325 Crestview Dr | GSIA Room 205 |
| Library, PA 15129 | Carnegie Mellon University |
| http://www.gsia.cmu.edu/andrew/hsm/ |
| Tell me again, what does incorrigible mean |
From: H Scott Matthews <hsm+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: More on J-card program
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:09:14 -0400 (EDT)
Hi all
Sorry for the second posting, but:
Our system is 100% free, and if you have an internet browser, you can
use the program.
--scott
| H. Scott Matthews | Doctoral Student, Economics |
| 6325 Crestview Dr | GSIA Room 205 |
| Library, PA 15129 | Carnegie Mellon University |
| http://www.gsia.cmu.edu/andrew/hsm/ |
| Tell me again, what does incorrigible mean |
From: "L. Sean Kennedy" <liam@bbnplanet.com>
Subject: missing digests
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 17:50:51 -0400
I just came across a note saying that some people (and the
web archives) did not get digest 138,141, and 147. I only keep
archives of a certain number of digests, so it was too
late for 138/141. However, I did find 147, and sent that
along to Jon Corbet's address which should automatically
place it on the web site.
If you do notice missing digests, please check the web page -- if
they aren't there contact me or 'postmaster@fedney.near.net' to
get them resent.
If I had to guess on the cause 138/141 were probably when my
workstation was moved to a different lab and experienced
(local) network instability for several days. 147 most certainly
was due to a diskspace problem (related to another local problem)
which I corrected pretty promptly last week.
Sean
From: Kai Matthews <kaimuse@apocalypse.org>
Subject: downsampling, etc. (was Re: Stand-alone CDR VS Computer CDR)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 15:05:03 -0700
>From: "David D. Rogers" <drogers@lightlink.com>
>Subject: Re: Stand-alone CDR VS Computer CDR?
>Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 03:01:59 -0700
>
>>From: Mike Beuselinck <mtb@andrew.cmu.edu>
>>Subject: Stand-alone CDR VS Computer CDR?
>>Date: Sun, 05 Apr 1998 22:25:14 -0400
>>
>>Hey all!
>>Is there a difference in the output of a stand-alone CDR such as the
>>Merantz as opposed to a CDR on my computer? The stand-alone would
[clip]
>Not-so-simple answer: If the DATs you want to put on CD are recorded at 48
>KHz, they'll need to be resampled at 44.1 KHz for CD, and there will be a
>big difference in the data that gets recorded to the CD between different
>types of sample rate converters. I'm assuming that the CD recorder you'd be
>using has one (I think that all Marantz CD-R recorders do, and probably
My own approach to downsampling (I'm currently in the process of archiving
to CDR some 8-yr-old 48k DATs that haven't shown any problems yet, but...)
is to use Sound Designer II's downsampling option, which I assume uses the
Motorola 56k DSP chip on my Audiomedia III card. The default algorithm and
the dithering involved produce quite good results - really hard to hear the
difference beyind the obvious subtle decrease in high-end sparkle. No
artifacts than I can detect.
I may still experiment with other methods - perhaps letting my outboard
convertor (Lucid Tech ADA1000) handle it rather than going 48k all the way
into the 'puter.
>no. It's been said that CD-R's recorded at 1X speed (including, of course,
>CD-R's recorded on stand-alone units) have more "jitter" than CD-R's
>recorded at 2X or higher speed, which might cause audible problems. I kind
>of doubt this (Stereophile claims they've heard the difference, but they
What I've heard about audio CDR burning speeds (second-hand from
rec.audio.pro and software mailing lists) is that 1x speed tends to burn
the pits a little too deep and over 2x too shallow (this is probably an
oversimplification - I'd imagine there could be some hardware variation, at
least.) But I always burn at 2x to be safe, and have had no problems with
any audio CDR; they play on every standard CD deck I've tried, for
instance. No jitter either.
Kai Matthews, Composer/Writer
kaimuse@apocalypse.org http://www.objarts.com/kaimuse/
Member, HTML Writers Guild http://www.hwg.org/
pop!site Design Consultant http://www.pragmaticainc.com/
"The more I learn, the more I realize
how little I know." - Bucky Fuller
"in this net it's not just the strings
that count
but also the air that escapes through
the meshes." - Pablo Neruda
From: "Marcus Winfree" <mwinfree@erols.com>
Subject: CD-R question
Reply-To: <mwinfree@erols.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:08:54 -0400
A friend of mine without e-mail access asked me to pass along this
question. He just bought a Phillips CD-R deck and was having trouble
finding inexpensive blanks. After buying the unit, he discovered that it
would not record onto blank computer CDs and that the CDs that he needed
were $7, and not the $2 computer kind that he bought. Would someone that
has experience with these decks recommend a good place to buy blanks in
bulk that would be cheaper than the $7 figure he was given?
Thanks in advance!
Marcus Winfree
mwinfree@erols.com
From: Taylor <taylorc@mindspring.com>
Subject: Need someone to speak with about taping.
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 17:26:03 -0500
This summer will be my first time to tape. I need to talk (email) with
someone about taping. So, if you are willing to answer a few questions,
please contact me.
Thanks
-Taylor
From: Jon Weber <74111.1427@compuserve.com>
Subject: Will Bernard 4-tet : tapes & tour
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:12:27 -0400
I have the following recordings of the Will Bernard 4tet available for
trades.
I will consider any trades, but I am esp. looking for Charlie Hunter, TJ
Kirk (Bernard
was a member) and Spring 98 Phish.
04.23.97 San Francisco CA, Last Day Saloon (part/60); dsbd
06.06.97 Berkeley CA, Starry Plough (all/90); dsbd
03.31.98 San Francisco CA, Bruno's Cork Club (set 2+p1/90); dsbd
04.06.98 San Francisco CA, Bruno's Cork Club (2 sets/120); dsbd
Will Bernard 4tet plays deliciously thick organ jazz with a farflung guitar
twist that any fan
of MMW, Charlie Hunter or thoughtfully-funky jazz can appreciate. The
4tet's drummer,
Scott Amendola, was spotted recently "Phil"-ing out the rhtyhm section with
Mr. Lesh's new open-lineup group.
Will Bernard 4tet will be in southern california later this month and
encourages audience
taping and provides soundboard access provided the venue is cool with it.
I would
be particularly interested to set up trades with anyone taping these
upcoming shows.
April 13 - Bruno's Cork Club, San Francisco
April 14 - San Luis Obispo Brewery
April 15 - Brick by Brick, San Diego
April 16 - Luna Park, Hollywood
April 18 - Ground Zero, USC
April 19 - McCabe's, Santa Monica
April 24 - Harlow's, Sacramento
Enjoy and thanks for the bw.
Jon
(formerly jweber@a-train.com)
From: "Chris Bold" <cbold@direct.ca>
Subject: try caseliner
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 16:02:20 -0700
there actually is a stand alone j card producer..
called "Caseliner" covers dat \ analog and I believe the current versions
support .bmp . jpg etc ..
due a search on some shareware sites and you should come up wth a copy ..
From: dave <tapedelay@hotmail.com>
Subject: Spiritualized Spring Tour
Reply-To: tapedelay@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 19:37:12 -0500
Hi-
If anyone has any tapes of this leg or any other Spiritualized tour,
drop me a line, I've got lots to trade. Where are all the european
tapers, it seems the bulk of the 97-98 tapes are from north america...
Thanks
Dave
From: "Eric C. Honour, Jr." <ech580@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
Subject: Media life
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 18:43:01 -0500
>From: Frank Cusack <fcusack@voicenet.com>
>Subject: DAT life extended!
>Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1998 16:44:50 -0400
[snip]
>Strange I would have thought optical media would be good for much longer
>than mag. tape.
I think that's really more a matter of how many beers you spill on the
respective types of media. Tapes tend to gum up considerably when doused
with lager and laboratory tests show that ale and stout can actually cause
tapes to cower, whimpering, in their storage cases. Optical media, on the
other hand, lap up the booze but are subject to fits of despair when
presented with inhalants and other intoxicants.
No problem, though -- just bake 'em.
Eric
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Eric C. Honour, Jr.
Composer * Saxophonist * Graphic Designer
MMus (Saxophone Performance and Composition)
Northwestern University
MrTheory@no.spam.nwu.edu
==========================
Black holes are where God divided by zero.
From: nickh@wordcraft.co.uk (Nick Hickman)
Subject: "Y" cable mono-ing
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1998 00:47:21 +0100
Gary Davis wrote:
>YOU CAN repair many problems by "Mono-ing" the tape. You can do this
>with a "Y" cable from Radio Shack.
In the majority of cases, this is a bad idea as it causes each output to directly
drive the other output which often constitutes a lower impedance than can
comfortably be handled. This can result in excess current being drawn and
can run into current limiting and attendant distortion.
Some consumer gear has its outputs padded sufficiently to withstand this
abuse, but pro gear will have a typical output impedance of 100 ohms, or often much lower.
If you must passively mix two outputs to mono, at least add resistors in each
leg (say 2K ohm) before Y-ing. Don't try this prior to a long cable run, though,
or you'll find you've made a nice low-pass filter with the cable capacitance <g>.
Nick
From: "J. Haynes" <kc7fys@sa2.so-net.or.jp>
Subject: Aiwa HD-S1 DAT portable DAT recorder FOR SALE
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1998 08:52:43 +0900
__________________________________________________
For Sale: Aiwa HD-S1 portable DAT recorder. $400 (shipped)
Excellent condition approx 500 hours use. Includes manual, AC adaptor,
detachable A/D converter, wired remote, and original packaging/receipts.
Also an extra unused battery is included.
I am selling it because I bought a D-100.
Serious inquiries only, please,
Jonathan
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From: Jonathan Mikos <thewho@igcom.net>
Subject: Victoria Williams?..
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:06:13 -0500 (CDT)
Howdy peoples!.. :)
I was wondering if anyone happened to tape Victoria Williams
on her current tour?...
Thanx for your time,
Jonathan
thewho@igcom.net
From: Boxcephus <Boxcephus@aol.com>
Subject: Re: DAT-Heads Digest #167
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:26:27 EDT
>>To all those who know and love me and Michelle.
She did it ! Michelle birthed our beautiful Baby girl !
Sage ( I'll take a Melody ) Brand =Sage Melody Brand
This is all well and good but you negelcted to even mention the bottom line -
are there dat soundboards available of the blessed event? Was the tapers
section crowded?
in jest... :)
From: andyhof <andyhof@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: RE: Sennheiser Requests
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 20:46:09 -0400
==========
From: Len Moskowitz[SMTP:moskowit@panix.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 08 April, 1998 05:29
To: DAT-heads@fedney.near.net
Cc: andyhof
Subject: RE: Sennheiser Requests
andyhof <andyhof@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Honestly........the MKE2 is THE way to go. This mic is
> an industry standard. Completely smooth freq response
> 20-20k....and robust. Every broadway theatre uses them.....
> . thousands of broadcasters use them......the are unbeatable.
> Top quality performers. They can be terminated in a variety
> of ways depending on your situation.
They're fine mics.
I believe that is what I just tried to explain......
There's a smaller and fine sounding alternative: the DPA4060 and 4061s.
Why is a smaller mic needed Len? Hide the f'n things if you don't want them
to be seen. How about the Sanken?
We match them and build them up into our High End Binaurals mic sets.
For a "High End Binaural mic set" just see the Sennheiser MKE2002 for
heaven's sake. No modification or "build up" needed.
> Two MKE2's can be mounted via a yoke and are held close to the
> entrance to the ear canal generating the directional cues and real
> pinnae/head factors required for binaural recording. Sennheiser sold
> this system years ago as the MKE2002. Maybe they still do today!
These are no longer available. At the last AES, Sennheiser indicated
that they have no plans to re-introduce it.
Well, they still sell the yoke to this day....just take two MKE2's and pop
them in the yoke.
Regards,
andrew
From: ONelson807 <ONelson807@aol.com>
Subject: Not really relevant, but....
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:57:20 EDT
....I think it's a good taping story.
Received from a friend who lives in Bangkok:
=====
And so I was off on my first taping trip. Less than 20 kilometers away was a
house warming of sorts filled
with some of my new friends playing Thai traditional
music in a new fusion jam style and monks chanting and
drooling betel nut out of the place.
Yes, only twenty kilometers away, but being as how I am
on the outskirts of BKK, those twenty Km took me right
out of it. Into the bayou.
Yes. Into the bayou, a swampy mangrove that was a bit
dry because this is the dry season in a drought year where
the little boy has been wreaking havoc. We drove through
a one-street wooden shop front business district and
then halfanhour further into the twists and turns and
potholes of a road that ended in the river somewhere not
too far from the ocean.
The next few kilometers were on a meter wide concrete sidewalk raised two feet
above the mush. Crazy
motorcycles played with our lives. Tereza clung to her
mother, who clung to the stranger twisting his bike
through right-angle turns.
I had the basket, filled with diapers, cotten, bottles and
my deck. We were accelerating down a short straight
away with a second motorcycle parked on the side, and
the basket was sticking out a little and then it was flying
away, ripped from my grasp, with a terrible clash of metal.
Luckily, nothing went into the musty water. All fell on a
huge red ant mound, where I also went to retrieve and be
tortored.
I gathered it all and swallowed my tears. Got back on the
back of the cycle, flew above the swamp, then walked the
last few hundered meters on wooden planks to my friend's
house.
There I tested my walkman and it still worked.
When I got home later that afternoon I found the mics on
the chair where I had left them.
=====
Damn, wanted to hear that one!
Oh well, desire is suffering.
Olaf
From: "Clint Spaar" <cspaar@top.monad.net>
Subject: Anyone using Fuji DSS tape?
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 21:57:39 -0500
Hi....
Anyone here in DAT-land using the FUJI DSS tapes that I have seen
advertised alot lately? Are they any good?
Thanks,,,, Clint
From: "nick@tapetree.com" <nlayman@sprynet.com>
Subject: tapetree.com Online & Open tree's
Reply-To: <tapetree@sprynet.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 19:29:57 -0700
Sorry for the waste of bandwidth, but due to some equipment damage. Most of
tapetree was lost except for the areas of the site on the server. A good
portion of the mutliple back ups wer damaged as well. Everything is back
fully functional and running more enhanced than ever before.
I you had signed up for the open April trees, you will need to do so again.
If you are on the mailing list you will need to subscribe again.
Sincerely, nick@tapetree.com
wwww.tapetree.com - Live DATs, Spun Fresh
From: Bob Ramstad <rramstad@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: j-card tape label program
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1998 22:21:25 -0400 (EDT)
a classic program, which many folks used to swear by is
http://people.netscape.com/jwz/audio-tape.ps
works great with any PostScript printer, doesn't matter what operating
system you use, and generates j-cards for just about anything.
it is especially handy for folks using Unix.
--
Bob Ramstad
339 NW 54th St
Seattle WA 98107-3555
206 297 1081
rramstad // alum / mit / edu
replace double slash with "at" symbol singles with dots
From: David McGee <keytohwy@staffnet.com>
Subject: Extra DATs
Reply-To: keytohwy@staffnet.com
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 10:25:58 +0000
A little spring cleaning to make room for others. I either have doubles
of these or don't listen to them anymore. Looking for a newbie-type to
take 'em all in exchange for blanks...lengths are in meters
Clapton 2/3/89 Albert Hall, London SB 60M
Clapton 5/2/94 NYC (all blues) nice aud, filled with 'Unplugged'
outtakes 60M
Clapton 2/28/83 Wash, DC, nice aud, filled with Knebworth 90 set, 86
stuff and more unplugged outs 90M
Clapton 8/2/74 Greensboro, NC, SB Pete Townsend sits in. Filled with
Richmond 85 and Japan 93 90M
Clapton 10/6/87 London w/ Buddy Guy. Awesome! Two blues greats doin it
right! Long rumored to be a SB, but it is an aud. Filled with
10/10/87, another show with Buddy and various 86 stuff. 90M
Clapton 2/3/90 London with Cray, Buddy Guy, and more. NOT the 2/5/90
show that circulates widely. A couple of d/o's, but a hot show. SB/FM?
60M
Clapton 10/23/93 Yokohama, aud. 60M
Phish VA Beach 7/21/97 Schoeps..nice aud. 2x60M
Allmans 3/4/98 NYC Gefells FoB, 90M
Later,
DAVE
From: Greg Poulos <gpoulos@earthling.net>
Subject: Email change
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 22:23:04 -0400
Please change my email address from:
gpoulos@dial.cic.net
TO:
gpoulos@earthling.net
Thanks
From: Kirk Willingham <kiwillingham@davidson.edu>
Subject: DMB 4.18.98 Tree Signup & DMB PermaTree Signup
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 22:55:42 -0400
I just want to let you all know that analog applications are currently
being taken for the tree of the upcoming 4.18.98 DMB show in Roanoke, VA
that will kick off their 1998 summer tour. To signup, just go to:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/5252/
and fill out the necessary info.
Also, for all you DAT-Heads, applications are currently being taken for the
DMB PermaTree which will be the root of all DMB trees (including the
4.18.98 tree). The signups for that are at the same url as above.
If you have any questions about the 4.18.98 tree, then direct them to me
<kiwillingham@davidson.edu>, but if you have questions about the PermaTree,
then direct those to Neil Malhotra <nmalhotr@julian.uwo.ca>. Thanks, and
take it easy y'all.
See ya,
Kirk Willingham
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