DAT-Heads Digest #180
Contents:
An order (Oliver Friedman)
ISO Dead 8/1/73 (Greg Fellman)
Philips CD-R listening tests (Connelly Martin)
leather case for D8 ("Vic")
Bluegrass All Star Help (DeMatt Harkins)
Organizing a Merlefest presence (long) (Russ Perry)
FS:Panasonic SV 3700 Dat Deck ("Matt Appel")
ISO: Metallica - Pacific Rim Tour (Brian_Lew@iacnet.com)
Trades! (John Schmidt)
ISO Seapods 12/27/97 and some HQ trades (Drummerist)
DSD hackers, anyone? (Bob Ramstad)
Re:pirated software NO THANKS!! (NDC) (nick)
digital soundcard with optical I/O? (matteo)
Looking for used Sony TCD-D8 (Peter DIACHUN)
stealthing (Chris Reed)
Taping request~ *** (Coal Chamber, 7dust, HWP) ("Yoda5000")
DA-30 No Output ("bob becker")
INTERNSHIPS AVAILABLE???? (Mike Beuselinck)
LA Area Tapers ("Lukas, Erik")
re: blank tape's after recording ("david louis")
Audio Alchemy DTI for sale (Jason Naumoff)
New Master (Tweakk)
Re: Death-Heads (Eugene Hu)
1/8th inch mini-plug digital coax cable to RCA? (CosmicKC)
Age old question (but important) ("Tony Antoniou")
Little Schoeps or big Schoeps? (CLARKDA@NKU.EDU)
From: Oliver Friedman <OliverFriedman@compuserve.com>
Subject: An order
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:46:17 -0400
FORWARDED MESSAGE:
>Sender: talk@mcmelectronics.com
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>Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:12:18 -0400
>To: Oliver Friedman <OliverFriedman@compuserve.com>
>Subject: Re: Overseas shipping charges
>
>
>At 07:05 PM 4/13/98 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >How much do you charge for the shipment of a net weight of 3 lb =
> >to Germany?
> >
> >I'm looking for the cheapest charge available. Delivery time is not
> >relevant.
> >
> >Thank you.
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> >OliverFriedman@compuserve.com
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>We charge the US Postal service chart rate for the weight. I do not hav=
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>access to a chart.
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>Thank you,
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>MCM Tech
Do you expect me to have it?
If you don't have such a chart, how do you calculate invoices?
Regards,
Oliver Friedman
Hamburg, Germany
From: gfellman@du.edu (Greg Fellman)
Subject: ISO Dead 8/1/73
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 08:11:37 -0600 (MDT)
Hey Hey! Just a simple grovel here! I'm looking for a copy of the 8/1/73
show for my supervisor and friend. He said it was one of the best shows
he's ever seen and looking at the setlist it doesn't surprise me! Dark
Star-->El Paso-->Eyes-->Dew!! Wow!
If anyone has a copy, preferably soundboard, high-quality audience if
necessary. Please contact me. Plenty to trade. Thanks!
Greg
From: Connelly Martin <ConnellyM@logica.com>
Subject: Philips CD-R listening tests
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:21:00 +0100
Robbie Dunn <goheels@mindspring.com> wrote about his listening tests of CDs
recorded on the Philips CD-R - presumably the 870.
>The first test I did was using the 48k DAT of the SCI show <snip> I
discovered the DAT still sounded a bit better.
<snip>
>so I decided to try cloning a CD for my next test. <snip> I still found
the original CD to sound a little better than the one I recorded.
I know some people's views of hi-fi journalists and jitter, but.......
Here in the UK the CDR870 was launched around Christmas to mixed reviews in
the hi-fi press. "Hi-Fi News and Record Review" and "Hi-Fi Choice" gave
unenthusiastic subjective reviews, and showed high measurements of jitter
from CD-Rs recorded on this machine. More recently HFNRR gave the Pioneer
CD-Rs a much better review.
Hi-Fi Choice reports this month that Philips have (already!!) announced a
replacement for the 870 (the 880) in which the jitter problems have
reportedly been fixed. A cheaper model without sample rate conversion and a
double deck have also been announced.
Martin
From: "Vic" <vjd3@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: leather case for D8
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 10:50:04 -0400
Folks:
The leather "case" for my D8 walked away somehow last weekend ... if anyone
has an extra or leftover from a cannibalized or wornout D7 or D8, I'd love
to hear from you.
Alternatively, anyone know the part # or cost for a new one from Sony?
Vic
From: DeMatt Harkins <dharkins@tra.net>
Subject: Bluegrass All Star Help
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:13:19 -0600
Could somebody who was on the B. Fleck/S. Bush/J. Douglas tree help
me out with the date, venue, and mic set-up. Thanks very much.
Ol Diz
From: Russ Perry <russndeb@erols.com>
Subject: Organizing a Merlefest presence (long)
Reply-To: russndeb@erols.com
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:26:01 -0400
Yee-haw!
Yessiree folks, the annual bluegrass rite of passage is drawing near.
Merlefest, the festival which kicks off the bluegrass calendar, is only
a couple of weekends away, and I'm beginning my preparations for the
event.
Some of you may recall my posts concerning this festival over the past
two years. I plan on attending "all ten days" of the festival again (you
newcomers just wait, and you'll understand that statement!), and I'm
running into a major problem. There are simply too many great events
going on! There is absolutely no way I'll be able to catch all the good
sound waves which will be produced on all those stages. For this reason,
I am looking to my "virtual community" for help!
Anyone interested in working with me to ensure that someone in our
community gets to see all the events that MUST be attended should
contact me as soon as possible. Between us I think we can get to see all
this stuff...For my part, I can offer a couple of things to get this
started.
I will provide:
1) Some helpful hints and strategies based on my previous experiences at
Merlefest, and
2) An "Entertainment Guide" which lists practically EVERY act on EVERY
stage for EVERY day on a single (legal unfortunately) sheet of paper.
One quick look at that list really puts things in perspective, since you
can quickly see the conflicts.
I would like to get a dicussion group together on this topic. Please
send me an e-mail with your name and primary musical interests (i.e. I
HAVE to see the Friday Grisman & Rice Tone Poems set on the Americana
Stage, or I want to see EVERY Leftover Salmon show, or I like
TRADITIONAL bluegrass best of all) and we'll get this thing kicked off!
I am of the opinion that we work out a meeting place on Thursday
evening, since the other stages are dark on Thursday, and we won't yet
have to assign any responsibilities to individuals. If you don't plan to
arrive until Friday (or even later), let me know and I'll be sure to
include you!
I will send out the first correspondence e-mail to the assembled e-mail
list on Thursday, so let me know if you are in!
Thanks for the BW, and see you there!
-Russ
russndeb@erols.com
From: "Matt Appel" <mwappel@mainstreethouston.com>
Subject: FS:Panasonic SV 3700 Dat Deck
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 11:31:09 -0500
Deck has less than 500 hours on head. Includes orig box, remote, papers,
rack mount kit, etc. $675, I'll pay FedEx shipping.
Email with interest. Thanks.
Matt
From: Brian_Lew@iacnet.com
Subject: ISO: Metallica - Pacific Rim Tour
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 09:28:33 -0700
I'm looking for any quality spins from Metallica's current New Zealand,
Australia, and Japan dates. Have lots to trade.
From: John Schmidt <jschmidt@mail.hotchkiss.pvt.k12.ct.us>
Subject: Trades!
Reply-To: jschmidt@mail.hotchkiss.pvt.k12.ct.us
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:42:37 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)
I am looking for some trades! I have some free time and
would like to get some new shows. I am mainly looking for
Phish, DMB, and some other more alternative groups! Send me
your list if you would like to trade thanx!!!
PS...I still have the extra Phish 12/3/97 SHOW!!!!!!!!!
======================
John Schmidt
jschmidt@mail.hotchkiss.pvt.k12.ct.us
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/3240
From: Drummerist <Drummerist@aol.com>
Subject: ISO Seapods 12/27/97 and some HQ trades
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 12:52:43 EDT
Hey Everybody,
Just checkin if anyone taped the Seapod's Wetlands show from December
27th. I would also like to do a couple of nyce trades (Phish, OSP, MMW, Bela,
Leftover). Drop me a line and i'll hook you up with a list.
Thanks,
Luke
From: Bob Ramstad <rramstad@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: DSD hackers, anyone?
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:30:54 -0400 (EDT)
howdy folks. as you might recall i was one of the people involved
with the DSD design way back when. i've been out of touch with the
list for a while now and was wondering if anyone had added any cool
hacks to the DSD... at various points i was talking with people who
were thinking about adding D>A capability and adding the ability to
send signals to and from their computer. did anything come of these
efforts? anyone else out there have cool mods for the DSD?
please note that i haven't had any PCBs or other parts or kits for
sale for some time now, so inquiries along those lines will most
likely not be answered. if the status changes, this list will be the
first to know!
thanks much...
--
Bob Ramstad
339 NW 54th St
Seattle WA 98107-3555
206 297 1081
rramstad // alum / mit / edu
replace double slash with "at" symbol singles with dots
From: nick <guyute@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re:pirated software NO THANKS!! (NDC)
Reply-To: guyute@bigfoot.com
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:52:02 -0400
>From: "Chris Bold" <cbold@direct.ca>
>Subject: pirated software NO THANKS!!
>Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 09:45:59 -0700
>with all the potential hatred towards this list from the recording >industry
>(read uneducated execs who equate taping with BOOTLEGING ) all we need >is
>the software industry coming down on us for advocating software theft
>emphasis on THEFT keep your offers to yourself or private email >"gray
>area "stealth tapes " area differant matter copying COPYRIGHTED >material
>is quite another
>dont jepardize our list with your crap , I think I can say I speak for >the
>majority of the list
I apologize for posting about this...I was just trying to help out
fellow datheads that didn't have access to a decent digital editing
program. I hadn't realized the "morals" of certain members of this list
or the implications of my actions on the list in general. I guess we
agree about the free flow of music in our society and disagree about the
free flow of information...
I will not post anything related to this topic in the future and
therefore I hope this will be the end of this...
-nick
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Nick Peters
<guyute@bigfoot.com>
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From: matteo <bartok@micronet.it>
Subject: digital soundcard with optical I/O?
Reply-To: bartok@micronet.it
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:37:43 +0200
i have a portable sony d8 and a sony deck dtc-p7. They both have only
optical digital I/O. Now i want to buy a digital soundcard (i was
looking for the pinnacle turtle beach) but i wonder: is there any way i
can connect my dats to the spdif rca coax that most of the soundcards
seem to have?
is there any digital soundcard with optical connection?
what is the difference between optical and coaxial connection? A friend
of mine told me that the coaxial is the actually professional cable for
digital,it is a lot better. Why?
thanks for any info
matteo
From: Peter DIACHUN <diachun@ecology.coa.edu>
Subject: Looking for used Sony TCD-D8
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:08:45 -0400
If anyone has a Sony TCD-D8 for sale, I'd be interested in buying it.
Thanks.
Pete Diachun
Diachun@ecology.coa.edu
From: Chris Reed <creed@multigen.com>
Subject: stealthing
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 13:31:11 -0700
I just got my sound pro's and did some testing. They sound pretty good.
But I'm gonna be taking them tomorrow night (wed) to an indoor venue
(undisclosed;) for jazz music.
What settings are best for my d100? Should I use the AGC, mic limiter,
or manual? And should I record at 0dB or 20dB--0 seems to be the
loudest when I was testing. What's a safe setting for the line-in
volume if I do manual.
This is my first time so I don't want to have to fumble around with my
dat (if I can help it) while the show is going on.
-Chris
creed@cats.ucsc.edu
From: "Yoda5000" <Yoda5000@pipeline.com>
Subject: Taping request~ *** (Coal Chamber, 7dust, HWP)
Reply-To: "Yoda5000" <Yoda5000@pipeline.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:52:59 -0600
hey all~
i was wondering if anyone was taping these shows...
if so, i think we could work out a trade as i've taped them
all a few times too~ ;)
-=Yoda5000
Friday, May 1st
Coal Chamber and Sevendust
with Human Waste Project and Day In The Life
at The GlassHouse (Pomona, Ca.)
Tickets on sale NOW at all ticketmaster locations..$13.50
Saturday, May 2nd
Coal Chamber and Sevendust
with Human Waste Project and Day In The Life
at The Palace
Tickets on sale NOW at all ticketmaster locations..$16
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From: "bob becker" <rlbecker@montrose.net>
Subject: DA-30 No Output
Reply-To: <rlbecker@montrose.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 15:29:39 -0600
Any thoughts on this problem.
My DA-30 Records fine, but in Play there is no output, meters flatline.
However, pressing FF or REW while in play mode it outputs fine, you know,
the chipmonk version of whats on the tape. This ever happen to anyone on a
DA-30 or otherwise, or anybody know what's up ?? Thanks... bb
Bob Becker
http://www.montrose.net/rlbecker/
rlbecker@montrose.net
From: Mike Beuselinck <mtb@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: INTERNSHIPS AVAILABLE????
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:49:39 -0400
Hello my fellow Dat Heads!
I was writing to you all to check out any internship/summer job
opportunities out there (anywhere
in the San Francisco Bay Area is *highly* preferable, but not required).
Obviously, I am looking for something in Digital Audio recording or live
sound reproduction. I am a undergraduate college student at Carnegie
Mellon
Universtiy in Pittsburgh, and currently am a recording engineer for the
College of
Fine Arts. I have taken classes in digital audio editing, recording,
and amplification. I'm
The dates that I am available to work are from May 14th to July 14th.
E-mail me and I
will send you a resume/application.
Any responseor referral is appreciated!!!! Thanks a bunch for the
bandwidth!
-Mike
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"In song and dance man expresses himself as a member of a higher
community."
-Friedrich Nietzsche
Carnegie Mellon University
Mike Beuselinck
SMC 3284
1060 Morewood Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
(412)862-3494 http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/mtb/index.htm
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From: "Lukas, Erik" <Erik_Lukas@tds.com>
Subject: LA Area Tapers
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:57:56 -0700
As I have loaned out my mic to a friend (hey Jagjit), I am looking for
any LA area tapers who may want to attend and give out a mic patch for
the Will Bernard Quartet this Thursday night at Luna Park. Please
respond by email privately to either erik_lukas@tds.com or
lukeye@earthlink.net Thanks in advance, erik....
From: "david louis" <david.louis@giggly.demon.co.uk>
Subject: re: blank tape's after recording
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 23:23:02 +0100
yes, i found this quite a lot on my D7, first make sure the tape is taught
by pulling back the cover & tightning the tape if ness.
then pay a bit of the tape (if it's been recorded on befor) to make sure
the absolute time if ticking by / sound coming out. If this works the
tapes fed OK, if not eject & use a cable tie to gently remove the
tangled tape!
also i'm in the middle of making an SCMS stripper based on the crystal
chipset- email me for the circuit.
Dav.
From: jdn@youngminds.com (Jason Naumoff)
Subject: Audio Alchemy DTI for sale
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 16:48:14 -0600
I have a slightly used AA DTI jitter remover/ SCMS bypass. I used to
use it with my sony D7> DTC790 but have since upgraded. It has a coaxil
digi and toslink, optical input and it outputs with a coaxil digital. It
removes all that awfull jitter as well as bypassing SCMS.
$150 OBO
From: Tweakk <Tweakk@aol.com>
Subject: New Master
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 19:46:12 EDT
I recorded Bruford Levin/ Upper Extremities last night at Toad's place in New
Haven, CT. The band, which features David Torn and Chris Botti as well as
Bill Bruford and Tony Levin, played two 50min sets and the tape come out
amazing. I recorded the show centerstage about 20' below the overhead stacks
using Sennheiser MKE2 RD's (these are the reduced sensitivity version) with a
D7. Forward a list If your interested in setting up a trade. Thanks
From: eugene@borchard.ladev.tandem.com (Eugene Hu)
Subject: Re: Death-Heads
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 17:26:14 -0700
>> From: "pat k" <hoobash@hotmail.com>
>> Subject: Death-Heads
> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 08:28:27 PDT
>
>[snip]
>
>Just when I thought you people finally woke up and started getting
>into some quality death metal, I was disappointed once again. :)
>
>Max
But mercury IS a heavy metal :-).
-Eugene
From: CosmicKC <CosmicKC@aol.com>
Subject: 1/8th inch mini-plug digital coax cable to RCA?
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 20:48:30 EDT
I was wondering if someone can tell me where I can find a 1/8th inch digital
coax cable to RCA? I recently bought a Zefiro Inbox and the digital coax out
is a 1/8th mini-plug. I bought a adaptor, for my digital cable, from from
radio-shack but it seems pretty unstable with the multiple connections. I am
connecting this to the digital-in of a Tascam DA-P1.
Any help is greatly apperciated!!!
Thank you!
Kelly L. casey
CosmicKC@aol.com
From: "Tony Antoniou" <larz@cyberdude.com>
Subject: Age old question (but important)
Reply-To: <larz@cyberdude.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:26:20 +1000
I've been discussing with Len at Core Sound about changing my order from
Binaurals to Cardioids considering the amount of crowd/audience noise that
you get during the gigs from people standing closest to you. Rather than
telling them to shut up, I figured the Cardioids would be a better approach
but I need to hear from other people, who have actually used them, what they
think of the 2 kinds of mics and if maybe I could do better with something
from AKG or Audio Technica perhaps.
All opinions welcome.
Adios,
LarZ
=========================== TAMA = The Strongest Name in
rums ---------------------------
From: CLARKDA@NKU.EDU
Subject: Little Schoeps or big Schoeps?
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 21:43:55 -0400 (EDT)
Hey all,
Can anyone here comment on the differences in quality between using the
full-size Schoeps (say the CMC bodies and the MK-4 cap's) and using the
miniature version (the CCM series)? It seems to me that if they're equal, you
might as well go for the little guys so you can turn out a killer stealth
recording if need be. At any rate, I'm looking for a serious answer from
somebody who knows what they're talking about as opposed to brash speculation
from you-know-who.
--Dan
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