DAT-Heads Digest #182
Contents:
DAT component deck? (William Dennehy)
Looking for a good price on DARTpro 32 ("J. Haynes")
Eric Clapton taped (Dave Asselin)
Re:digital audio on the computer (Cdcreator)
Correct DAT list address ("Enrico Perissinotto")
Broun Fellinis (justine&keith)
UK - FM tapers?? (Anders Johansson)
Joe Jackon on German Radio (KHKuth)
Re: digital soundcard with optical I/O? ("Norbert Weinrich")
FS: D7 package (BARRY Barnes)
R300 Special; Free Gift! (Yalk)
R300 SCMS question (Steve Waud)
DA-20 vs. DA-20mk II (MTutts1)
Rex Sexmith (Will Bennet)
Digital soundcard with optical I/O (Greg Hanssen)
Walter Trout & Eric Clapton ("Marco van Rooijen")
Digital audio *is* (even) older than you think ("david louis")
Help out a DAT Newbie (Hoback98)
Re: DAT-Heads Digest #180 ("Eric C. Honour, Jr.")
[no subject] (Marc_Nutter)
RE: DAT-Heads Digest #179 ("rj")
Looking for a Michigan Taper (TP Settle)
Is Pink Floyd doing a US Tour this summer? (BirdSongII)
James Brown DATs? (Andrew Foster)
From: William Dennehy <bix1@earthlink.net>
Subject: DAT component deck?
Reply-To: bix1@earthlink.net
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 07:48:13 -0700
Can anyone recommend a good DAT component deck or at least where to
look? Thanks, Bill Dennehy
From: "J. Haynes" <kc7fys@sa2.so-net.or.jp>
Subject: Looking for a good price on DARTpro 32
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 23:59:55 +0900
Hello Datheads,
Does any of you know of a vendor with a good price on Dartpro 32? I am
looking for the best price on this spiffy software.
OR, if any of you can dissuade me with something better/cheaper that I
really ought to buy. Thanks!
Jonathan
===============================================================
"I cried because I had no sense of humor,
until I met a man who wasn't funny."
Peruse my tape archive sometime:
http://www.tapetrading.com/lists/k/c/kc7fys@sa2.so-net.or.jp.html
From: Dave Asselin <pmack@xero.com>
Subject: Eric Clapton taped
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 11:37:26 -0400
Eric Clapton
04.14.98 Fleet Center; Boston, MA
about 115 minutes
I taped this show last night with an M1 & CSBs. It's missing the first 12m
and
is pretty bassy due to a combination of the venue being a goddamned cave, my
crappy seats and my having no roll-off filter, but it's available for trade
if
anyone's interested.
General wants include Smashing Pumpkins, Elliott Smith; specific wants
include The Cure @ Great Woods in MA 09.23.89
- Dave
pmack@xero.com - http://www.xero.com
From: Cdcreator <Cdcreator@aol.com>
Subject: Re:digital audio on the computer
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 12:42:24 EDT
Boy did you pick the wrong mailing list to start a Mac/PC Battle ;-).
Obviously, you have had your head up your ass for the past two years, or you
have forgotten to read ANY recording magazine, since it is obvious that the PC
IS A SERIOUS PLATFORM FOR DOING DIGITAL AUDIO, and a TON of people on this
list alone will tell you so. I happen to use BOTH PC and MAC everyday for
digital audio, and have a lot more insight in the area than most. On the Mac
side, I use a PowerMac 7600/132 at school with a ProTools 442 interface, and
my PC is a P200 MMX with a AdB Digital Multiwav Pro24 card running Sound Forge
(that I legally own BTW) for my editing. I agree that Cool Edit is worth
poop, and that’s why I use Sound Forge 4.0. It is so obvious that you have no
idea about the quality or quantity of professional (not hobbyist) digital
audio cards available for the PC. Just some of these cards and interfaces
include TripleDAT, SoundScape, Digital Audio Labs V8, and a TON of other cards
offering 24bit I/O for less than $500. My $400 AdB card offers a hell of a
lot more performance that the ProTools system that I use, and cost a tenth as
much. I don’t think that the Mac is dead, only that the users are confused,
loyal people who have been brainwashed into the Apple Cult and who only listen
to what Apple and Mac Magazines have to say. You should open your eyes as it
is obvious that you have no clue or experience running good PC hardware and
software for audio. Sound Forge is better than ANY 2 track editor that I have
used on a Mac (besides a $50K Sonic Solutions system), and I’ve used them all.
About the whole speed issue (Pentium vs. PowerPC/G3), I won’t even go there
with you. Apple has claimed that the PowerPC/G3 chips were better than the
Intel processors for years, but I never saw that myself, nor have I heard ANY
Pentium users complain about speed. Now that I have that off my chest, I
will stop taking up bandwidth, and continue to Record and Master excellent
audio on my PC and Mac.
Thanks for the venting,
Dylan
From: "Enrico Perissinotto" <eperissi@hotmail.com>
Subject: Correct DAT list address
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 09:58:48 PDT
Sorry to disturb,
but there was a typing error in my previous message on Digest #181
regarding my DAT list on-line address, the correct one is as follows:
Enrico's DAT list online at:
http://bertha.wwimpact.com/gdtapelists/lists/e/eperissi@hotmail.com.shtml
Regards,
Enrico
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From: jandb@slip.net (justine&keith)
Subject: Broun Fellinis
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 22:47:13 +0000
Anyone out there want live broun dats?
write to: jandb@slip.net
peace
From: Anders Johansson <ajo@algonet.se>
Subject: UK - FM tapers??
Reply-To: ajo@algonet.se
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:16:59 +0200
Are there any jazz tapers in the UK taping nice BBC live FM broadcasts
around?
Anders
From: KHKuth <KHKuth@aol.com>
Subject: Joe Jackon on German Radio
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 14:27:06 EDT
Dear Datheads,
can anyone record
Joe Jackon on 31th May 1998, 19.00, on HR 1 (German Radiostation)
and send me a copy of it? That would be great.
Thanks in advance
Karl-Heinz Kuth
Aachen, Germany
From: "Norbert Weinrich" <nowe@zedat.fu-berlin.de>
Subject: Re: digital soundcard with optical I/O?
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:05:15 +0100
bartok@micronet.it wrote:
> can i connect my dats to the spdif rca coax that most of the
> soundcards seem to have? is there any digital soundcard with
> optical connection?
You could buy an external coax/optical (or vice-versa) converter.
Sells for about 80 DEM in Germany.
> what is the difference between optical and coaxial connection? A
> friend of mine told me that the coaxial is the actually
> professional cable for digital,it is a lot better. Why?
Some manufacturers use cheap lasers, sometimes even LEDs so the risk
of a bad transfer of signal is higher than with the standard
electrical connection.
Norbert
Gruss -
Norbert
--
============================================================
Norbert Weinrich * nowe@zedat.fu-berlin.de * Berlin, Germany
From: BARRY Barnes <barry@sbe.acast.nova.edu>
Subject: FS: D7 package
Reply-To: BARRY Barnes <barry@sbe.acast.nova.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 15:20:14 -0400 (EDT)
FOR SALE: A great package for beginners!
Sony D-7: in very good condition,
with box, carrying case, manual,
AC power supply (Radio Shack),
cigarette lighter adapter (Sony)
Eco-Charge 6v gel-cel charging system
Sony ECM-939 stereo microphone
Sony MRU-1 Microphone Remote Control Unit
With ECM-939 allows adjustment of coverage angle
("directivity characteristics")
Includes two bands of equalization
250hz or 500hz and
4khz or 8khz
Complete package of
D-7, accessories, Eco-Charge, mic and remote control unit:
$525 plus shipping
============
Barry Barnes
Professor of Organizational Behavior
School of Business and Entrepreneurship
Nova Southeastern University
barry@sbe.nova.edu
============
From: Yalk <Yalk@aol.com>
Subject: R300 Special; Free Gift!
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:20:40 EDT
Ohhhh let's have a special so you have something to do with your tax refund!
Sony R300 DAT decks, *delivered* UPS, $599. Includes your choice of *free*
Sony Golf Towel or Sony T-Shirt, while supplies last.
>From those hap-hap-happy folks at Klay Anderson Audio!
Regards,
Klay Anderson
http://www.klay.com
1.800.FOR.KLAY
From: Steve Waud <waudsj@polaris.clarkson.edu>
Subject: R300 SCMS question
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:23:35 -0400
how exactly does the sony R300 deal with SCMS? everything i read says
"user-selectable ID6(scms)" but the market-posting says 'acts like a
consumer deck, except copies 10 to 10'.. so if i copy a master(00) to
the R300, i'll get... 11? or 00.. and this means that i can copy any
tape, right? even protected tapes(10) will copy, 'cept the bits will
still be set to protected.. that's my understanding, if anyone could
clarify this for me i'd be greatly appreciative.. also, is it a real
negative to have tapes with 10, or won't most people care? thanks!
--
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Steve Waud 'Show a Little Sunshine Every Day'
waudsj@polaris.clarkson.edu 'please, me, have no regrets'
homepage: http://people.clarkson.edu/~waudsj/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ME NO ARE NO NICE GUYS<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
From: MTutts1 <MTutts1@aol.com>
Subject: DA-20 vs. DA-20mk II
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:36:13 EDT
Hi-
Sorry to waste the bandwidth because the faq could probably answer my question
bu I wanna hear it first hand.
Ok...wa at Guitar Center today. they're selling the DA-20 mkII for $699.
This unit looks identical to my DA-20. The bozo at GC really couldn't tell
what the difference was, but said it had something to do with the software.
If somebody could give me just the facts mam, I would be greatly appreciative!
Thank You!
Mike Tuttle
From: Will Bennet <d042949c@dc.seflin.org>
Subject: Rex Sexmith
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 16:44:53 -0400 (EDT)
Looking for any Rex Sexmith shows. Email me.
Will Bennet
d042949c@dc.seflin.org
From: Greg Hanssen <hanssen@netcom.com>
Subject: Digital soundcard with optical I/O
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 13:53:18 -0700 (PDT)
The ZA2 also has optical I/O.
--
Greg <Hanssen@netcom.com> (714)-551-5833 Zefiro Acoustics
Zefiro Acoustics: The DAT to PC solution P.O. Box 50021
WWW http://www.zefiro.com Irvine, Ca. 92619-0021
--== Pro S/PDIF and AES/EBU digital audio interface cards for the PC ==--
From: "Marco van Rooijen" <slowhand@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Walter Trout & Eric Clapton
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 23:02:39 +0200
Hello,
I'm desperately looking for WALTER TROUT shows!
I've some great Walter Trout shows for trade, as well as some Dutch
radio broadcastings (acoustic shows!), Dutch CD-releases, ...........
Also I'm looking for ERIC CLAPTON US 1998 Tour shows!
I've a huge list of Eric Clapton recordings from his beginning period
until the Legends 1997 tour (with David Sanborn and Marcus Miller) and
his last Japan 1997 tour!
Please e-mail me privately if you have some Walter Trout and/or Eric
Clapton shows to trade
or if you are plan to tape some future Walter Trout and/or Eric
Clapton shows.
Many thanks in advance.
Kind regards,
Marco.
\\\||///
(o o)
===========================oOOo=(_)=oOOo============================
Marco van Rooijen, The Netherlands.
Owner of: The Dutch ERIC CLAPTON Website!
URL: http://www.xs4all.nl/~slowhand
CHECK THIS OUT !!!
E-mail (home): slowhand@xs4all.nl
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From: "david louis" <dave@giggly.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Digital audio *is* (even) older than you think
Reply-To: "david louis" <dave@giggly.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 22:43:44 +0100
PCM was invented in 1937 by Alec Reeves !!
dav.
From: Hoback98 <Hoback98@aol.com>
Subject: Help out a DAT Newbie
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:19:57 EDT
I just bought my first DAT Player yesterday, the Sony D8. I am now looking
for an experienced DAT trader to get me off on the right foot and help my get
my collection started. If you have the time to spin me a couple of shows I
would really appreciate it. I am especially looking for DMB, Dead, and Phish.
Thanks,
Ryan
From: "Eric C. Honour, Jr." <ech580@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>
Subject: Re: DAT-Heads Digest #180
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:50:46 -0500
============================
>
>From: nick <guyute@bigfoot.com>
>Subject: Re:pirated software NO THANKS!! (NDC)
>Reply-To: guyute@bigfoot.com
>Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 14:52:02 -0400
[snip]
>I apologize for posting about this...I was just trying to help out
>fellow datheads that didn't have access to a decent digital editing
>program. I hadn't realized the "morals" of certain members of this list
>or the implications of my actions on the list in general. I guess we
>agree about the free flow of music in our society and disagree about the
>free flow of information...
[snip]
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Nick Peters
><guyute@bigfoot.com>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
If you remember the copyright discussions from the fall, you'll remember
that some of us even disagree rather violently about how free the flow of
music in our society is or should be. Stealing is never cool.
Eric
==========================
Eric C. Honour, Jr.
Composer * Saxophonist * Graphic Designer
MMus (Saxophone Performance and Composition)
Northwestern University
MrTheory@no.spam.nwu.edu
==========================
Black holes are where God divided by zero.
From: sncsns@henge.com (Marc_Nutter)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:15:22 -0600
>CLARKDA@NKU.EDU wrote:
>Can anyone comment on the differences in quality between using the
full-size >Schoeps <snip> and the miniature version....<SNIP>
Hi Dan and all,
Here's hoping everyones' taping experiences are going well.
Between the ccm-4's and the cmc-6/mk.4 (with or without active cables), the
sonic quality difference are minimal. Having used each of these
combinations, in addition to the very flexible VMS system with a variety of
capsules, I have found that all perform to the same high standards one would
expect from SCHOEPS microphones and equipment.
The major issue I would draw to attention is that the ccm-series does not
have interchangeable capsules whereas the cmc-6/mk.* system and the VMS
system does. This means that if you have any interest in having a variety
of capsules (cardioid, hyper, omni, figure of eight) than you may not want
the ccm's as they would require the purchase of an entirely new microphone
as opposed to only having the expense of the capsules. Although the
"stealthability" of the ccm's is quite nice, the same can be achieved with
the KC active cables with the cmc/mk.* arrangement and with the VMS system.
Details about these and all SCHOEPS products, as well as several great
additions, are available on the Sonic Sense website at
http://www.henge.com/~sncsns
We look forward to helping you with all of your recording needs.
Marc
Marc Nutter--Sonic Sense
Box 61141
Denver, CO 80206
(303) 698-1296
http://www.henge.com/~sncsns
email: sncsns@henge.com
From: "rj" <rjacob@newsguy.com>
Subject: RE: DAT-Heads Digest #179
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:26:44 -0400
> From: andyhof <andyhof@worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: RE: Sennheiser MKE-2
> Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 18:48:06 -0400
>
> The K3/K6 is a power supply.
> About 6 inches long....like a big cigar. But the K6 is not the only
> source of power available. 48V can be supplied to the MKE2 head.
> But this configuration is terminated in an XLR directly from the mic head
> (no power supply......the deck must supply the 48V...and the PH adapter
> converts this power to a usable voltage.)
the published specs for the k6 (thanks to klay for these)are roughly
3x1...not quite 6"...even two of these taped together isn't much larger
than the battery box from coresound...
> The MKE2 head can be powered by the "plug-in power" microphone inputs
> on consumer audio recorders like the Sony D6 or the d7/8 dats.
> I think that the MKE2 requires 1.5V to operate..but don't hold me to that!
> ......BUT then you are relying on the rather *low* quality of the sony
> consumer mic pre amp and voltage regulator. The end result would be
> the distortion that is widely discussed on these digests. The
> mics would not
> distort.......the mic preamp distorts. I believe the
so, any engineers, pro-audio "modifiers" on the list, would you be
able to modify these to use either or with different connectors?
or, could you modify a current consumer deck to work without the
k6 and not experience the negative impact?
> Please remember....stealthing was not mentioned in the original
> post. I was
> offering my experiences to questions regarding the quality of the
> MKE2...not to
> stealthing with the MKE2. There are plenty of mic alternatives.....
> I just decided to share my positive experiences with this particular mic!
i was the poster of the original message, and i think a lot of people
assume that i stealth...in fact, these mics wouldn't be purchased to
stealth primarily...
> Does this help put an end to this thread?
why do that? seems like some on topic stuff here, much
more informative than 3/4 of the messages that seem to
be posted...
From: TP Settle <TPSettle@aol.com>
Subject: Looking for a Michigan Taper
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 20:38:25 EDT
Hello to all,
I am looking for someone willing to go check out a great band from Portland,
OR. They will be playing at the
Magic Bag, in Ferndale, MI April 19th.
The band is CALOBO, they are taper friendly and give out SBD patches most of
the time. If anyone might be willing to check this out and tape it, please
let me know, would like to get a clone of it. It is one of four Headline
shows on their first ever Midwest tour. Thanks for the space
Tim
From: BirdSongII <BirdSongII@aol.com>
Subject: Is Pink Floyd doing a US Tour this summer?
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 21:06:23 EDT
If anyone knows for sure let me know
Ollie
From: Andrew Foster <Andrew_Foster@infoworld.com>
Subject: James Brown DATs?
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1998 18:29:59 -0700
hello,
does anyone have any JB shows on DAT, or
decent-sounding analogs they'd be willing to
dub to DAT? i'd love to trade for some.
andrew 8^)
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