DAT-Heads Digest #187
Contents:
Tori Amos and loud applause ("Gary Davis")
Re: Gold vs. Green ("Gary Davis")
Green news for Green Day fans! ("Gary Davis")
Start IDs control with Zefiro ZA2 on a SONY D8 (Nino)
WTD: The Samples (Boulder, CO) (Brian Reasoner)
Sony D3 analog deck for sale (Sewwhat3)
A/V Certified Hard Drives ? (Gordon Gullahorn)
Sony PCM-M1 errors (Rob Garland)
Which deck to use for play/record (Rob Garland)
Sarah McLachlan/ Bare Naked Ladies- XMAS Boradcast 1997? (Jerry Zigmont)
Casio DA7? ("Crowell,Sean [CIS]")
blanks help (fwd) (Gardner William)
Hearing impaired ("John Q.")
Bevis Frond: TAPE THEM! (ONelson807)
Tori Amos - TONIGHT!!! (AlchemyADG)
schoeps ccm-4's still FS (Coopers)
RMD-3K Wanted! (TT)
GD 3-24-70 (Henry Llach)
CD-R vs. DAT (William Dennehy)
Bevis Frond FM (Terrastock) / Mike Stern Quartet (Marc D)
French tapers with access to OUI - FM ? (dave carroll)
Questions about taping+D100 ("Vikas Bhatia")
Extra DATs for trade ("Vikas Bhatia")
From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com>
Subject: Tori Amos and loud applause
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:01:03 +0000
It's unlikely there will be more than minimal security.
As to audience, I recommend taping low enough that the audience does
NOT go over, then you can correct the tape later in an analog dub
with either the volume control, or a good compresser.
--G
From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com>
Subject: Re: Gold vs. Green
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:08:06 +0000
> I was specifically looking for gold disks because I've heard
> some older CD players have problems with blue and green.
My experience is the exact opposite, it's the gold discs that don't
play on older CD players. However, the KAO gold discs seem to play
fine on all CD players -- go figure.
--Gary
From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com>
Subject: Green news for Green Day fans!
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:09:28 +0000
I found an uncensored satellite feed of today's live MTV concert --
video & DAT...
--Gary
From: Nino <aali@worldcom.ch>
Subject: Start IDs control with Zefiro ZA2 on a SONY D8
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 12:44:34 +0200
Hello DAT-Heads,
is it possible to insert in a recorded tape Start IDs using
a Sony D-8 and a Zefiro Card and nothing more (I mean the Sony accessories
D3k etc...). ?
Thanks
NINO
From: reasoner@mediaone.net (Brian Reasoner)
Subject: WTD: The Samples (Boulder, CO)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 07:13:32 -0400
I'm looking for soundboard DATs of The Samples (Boulder, CO), especially
from the Fall 1997 tour. I have approximately 160 Samples shows to trade,
so e-mail me if interested.
Thanks,
Brian Reasoner
Cambridge, Mass.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
e-mail:
reasoner@mediaone.net
reasoner@post.harvard.edu
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From: Sewwhat3 <Sewwhat3@aol.com>
Subject: Sony D3 analog deck for sale
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 08:15:58 EDT
Sorry about the lack of DAT content....
A good friend is going to upgrade to DAT and wants to sell his new Sony D3
analog portable recorder. The unit has been used to tape 7 shows and has less
than 35 hours of head usage.
The deck cost $265 but he will sell it for $200. It comes with a clip-on
stealth mic and pair of headphones. Serious inquiries only please.
Peace,
Steve
Tapin' in the Free World
http://members.aol.com/Sewwhat3/index2.html
From: Gordon Gullahorn <gordon@cfaspecial.nospam.harvard.edu>
Subject: A/V Certified Hard Drives ?
Reply-To: ggullahorn@cfa.harvard.edu
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 08:25:04 -0400 (EDT)
Seems like there's a LOT of confusion on this issue, per the recent
discussion (to Vcache or not?). Lots of opinions, not much agreement.
Having been contemplating a computer system for several months (and just
picked it up last week), I've tried to follow the various threads and
postings and also asked around among computer techies I've known. I've
gotten almost as many authoritative opinions as opinionators:
A long posting a few months ago (or maybe just a pointer I followed)
of a tutorial/FAQ by people who sounded like they had lots of practical
experience seemed to say that these days it's not really an issue.
Aside: Has anyone actually had problems with standard
IDE/EIDE/UDMA/UATA drives purchased in the last year or so?
Given that A/V drives are hard to locate (poring through a recent
Computer Shopper I think I noticed only one outfit selling them, and only
one of the catalogs I get offers them, without saying what makes them A/V)
and kind of pricey, that'd be very nice.
There's general, if not universal, agreement that the issue is the
drive's timing-out to do thermal recalibration. Suggestions on what
makes a drive A/V with respect to thermal cal have included:
-- The drive has firmware built in so that it postpones the thermal
cal when it is in the middle of a read. [ Given that our soundfiles
may take an hour or more to read, is this a good idea? ]
-- The cache on an A/V hard drive (typically 128-512 K) is reprogrammed
as a read-ahead buffer. I.e., rather than keeping track of what's recently
been read in case you need to access it again, the drive reads ahead of
the actual requests for data on the theory that's what you're most likely
to want (e.g., if you're reading a long audio file in sequence).
[ Thanks to Mark and Steve for bringing up this issue with regard to
using vcache and system RAM for caching/buffering. Looking forward to
hearing the resolution on this; I've gotta admit I don't really know what
vcache does. ]
One of those "hardware genius" pages on the web explained A/V drives
as involving not thermal recal, but the way data is stored on the
platters. Something which didn't make a whole lot of sense to me about
storing straight across a platter at a time vs. storing in a cylinder
covering several platters before moving in or out vs. a jagged scheme.
A computer salesman (motto: "it would hurt my ego to admit I don't know,
so I'll make up something") seemed to feel it was just a matter of speed,
e.g. udma better than ordinary ide. When pressed on thermal recal, he did
come up with a good suggestion that one might want to have the hard drive
on and warmed up for a while.
So ... does anybody have some hard data on this issue? Such things
as articles in refereed journals or PC magazines, or perhaps a
manufacturer's web site in which they explain what they have done
to make theirs an "A/V certified" drive?
Incidentally, why don't CD writers simply have a few seconds of buffer
built into them? or for that matter, why doesn't the software we use
to write to the CD drive create a buffer using some of that RAM our
machines are stuffed with?
And is this an issue when writing a tweaked sound file back to DAT?
From: Rob Garland <phishingruven@mindless.com>
Subject: Sony PCM-M1 errors
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 08:27:26 -0400
Word!
My Sony M1 appears to have a problem... when playing tapes the error
counter is almost always showing some errors. When I check the tapes in
my Sony r300 they are error-free. The severity and how often they show
up appears to vary with differing types of tape. The errors are low,
usually 01 or 02 but the occasional 10 or even higher does show up. The
errors seem highest/most often with Sony data grade (how ironic
considering it's a Sony deck), and lowest with KAO Golds. I wasn't able
to tell a difference between 90m's and 60m's. Also head B seems to have
more errors than head A. The errors aren't constant, they seem to
happen every few seconds or so. I ran the cleaning tape before running
my tests. The deck is about 2 months old and has ~100 hours on the
heads. Any ideas as to what the problem is? I had some financial
problems right after I bought the deck and unfortunately was unable to
purchase the extended warranty so I am really worried if something is
wrong with my heads.
There is another problem with the deck... somehow the latch that
keeps the deck closed seems to have gotten slightly bent so you have to
give the door a little extra pressure to get it to close... should I try
bending it back or just leave it how it is and be careful with it?
The deck seems to take a really long time loading tapes... any other
M1 owners notice this? Is this usual?
Thanks a lot in advance for any answers/comments.
- Rob Garland
PS: Looking for some HQ Pink Floyd DAT's, have plenty of Phish and
others to trade.
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From: Rob Garland <phishingruven@mindless.com>
Subject: Which deck to use for play/record
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 08:30:01 -0400
Hi, I own a Sony PCM-M1 and a Sony PCM-R300. I'm wondering which deck
should be used for play and which one for record. Currently I am using
the r300 for the play deck so that I can error-monitor. Should I switch
them around, and if so, why? Is it easier on the portable to play or to
record or is there not a difference?
- Rob Garland
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From: Jerry Zigmont <zigmont@mail2.nai.net>
Subject: Sarah McLachlan/ Bare Naked Ladies- XMAS Boradcast 1997?
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 08:38:05 -0400
About one year and a half ago (I think), there was a radio broadcast that
had Sarah McLachlan and the Bare Naked Ladies performing some acoustic
Christmas numbers. I think the station might have been out of Philly.
Looking for that broadcast ......have similar to trade including early and
uncirculated McLachlan.
Not looking to trade for any other Sarah shows right now.
Thanks
Jerry
From: "Crowell,Sean [CIS]" <Sean.Crowell@ec.gc.ca>
Subject: Casio DA7?
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 08:57:11 -0400
Hey all,
I have a chance to buy one of these units
locally for a very good price...owner says it has ridiculously
low hours on it so I'm quite interested. Anyway, does anybody
have any information not listed in the markey posting that
they can pass along to help me make a decision. Looking
specifically for info on durability, problems, service histories,
that sort of thing...thanks in advance.
Peace,
Sean Crowell
Sean.Crowell@ec.gc.ca
From: wgardner@thomas.butler.edu (Gardner William)
Subject: blanks help (fwd)
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 08:30:10 -0500 (EST)
Hi there,
My last blanks order got kinda screwed up and I was sent 15X90 meter
instead of 15X60 meter. I could really care less about the whole 60
meter 90 meter issue but I need some 60 meters for some trees and
stuff.
So I was wondering if somebody could help me out.
Here's what I would like to do:
Trade 5X90m of unopened Sony DG90P
for 5XSony DG60P, unopened. or I'll take other types of 60 meter tapes
too, unopened. Just email me.
The key here is QUICK. I would like to send these out Monday morning.
Thanks,
Bill Gardner
From: "John Q." <zephead1@mindspring.com>
Subject: Hearing impaired
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 09:39:38 -0400
Would somebody be so kind to "educate" me on the hearing impaired lines
that are in some of the arena sky or press boxes?? I will be sitting in
one of these boxes for an upcoming show, and would like to "utilize" this
feature.
BTW - my hearing is fine.
-John
From: ONelson807 <ONelson807@aol.com>
Subject: Bevis Frond: TAPE THEM!
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 10:02:36 EDT
Taped The Bevis Frond last week, and it was great: Nick
Soloman was the friendliest person (not just musician, but
human being) I've ever met. Asking for permission, I ended
up talking to him and Adrian, the bass player, for quite a
while. The show was hot, the crowd cool, the band very
accomodating.
Tape them, please. You'll be glad you did.
I don't have the dates handy for the remainder of the tour,
but if you search the archives, someone just posted them
here last week.
Trades?
Olaf
From: AlchemyADG <AlchemyADG@aol.com>
Subject: Tori Amos - TONIGHT!!!
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 10:20:31 EDT
Hey.
Is anybody taping the opening Tori show tonight in Fort Lauderdale, FL at the
Chili Pepper? I need a copy of this show like I need air.
Thanks for the space. Peace!
--Bryan.
"People are always asking me if they can borrow my audience, and I said you'd
have to ask them cause there's nothing like 'em in the whole world" - Tori
Amos 11/11/96
From: Coopers <cooper@lightlink.com>
Subject: schoeps ccm-4's still FS
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 19:48:32 -0500
for sale: matched pair schoeps ccm-4 mics
features: compact condenser design "bodyless"
matched freq.resp./sensitivity at factory
3 meter cable length
included accessories: 2 sets of windscreens (w-5 and b-5)
STC ortf mounting tube
all original boxes and paperwork
absolute mint condtion
$2675.00 firm contact thomas
*brief history*
these mics were purchased new in april 1996, i am the original
owner. they are for sale due to lack of use. i have used them 18 times
in 2 years. IMO, the present rate of use is not cost effective. these
mics were an upgrade from my vms/kcy/mk-4 system, which was an upgrade
from my cmc54/aerco setup. the two latter systems were used 50+ times
a year. thanks for the bandwidth, thom
From: TT <TT@TheGrid.net>
Subject: RMD-3K Wanted!
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 07:53:09 -0800
I need to buy an RMD-3K for my Sony D8. Preferrably used, please email me
if you have one you'd like to sell or if you might know where I can get
one, thanks!
T r i s t a n T o m
TT@TheGrid.net
From: Henry Llach <sfaxvf@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>
Subject: GD 3-24-70
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 10:59:49 -0400 (EDT)
anyone out there got this off the master cass sdb? how about the 8-14- and
15-71?
From: William Dennehy <bix1@earthlink.net>
Subject: CD-R vs. DAT
Reply-To: bix1@earthlink.net
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 08:23:11 -0700
Why are CD-R's cheaper than DAT machines? I understand the technology
(basically) but since they're both digital why is there such a price
differential? Is it because CD's are about 76 min. and DATs are 2 and 3
hours? Forgive the stupid question but I'm new to the whole shebang.
Thanks Bill
From: mdask@netgate.net (Marc D)
Subject: Bevis Frond FM (Terrastock) / Mike Stern Quartet
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 16:03:18 -0700 (PDT)
Recorded the Bevis Frond off the radio (FM) last night playing at
the Terrastock festival in San Francisco. They played for 75
minutes and were recorded in SP mode. Have been recording most
off the other acts in LP mode and have to say they range from
good to bad and some are quite weird...
About a week ago I had the privilege of seeing and recording Mike
Stern at the Catalina bar and Grill in LA for a couple of nights.
I was using my Sonics and sat right at the stage about 8 ft in
front of Mikes' guitar amps and the tapes came out very nice.
He was playing with Dennis Chambers, Lincoln Goines and Bob Malach.
Mike put on his usual jaw dropping performance of "bop 'n' roll"
but Dennis Chambers was absolutely on fire and nearly stole the
show away.
If anyone is interested in setting up a trade please email me
at marc_daskalovic@ltx.com
Marc
mdask@netgate.net
From: dave carroll <dc012@post.almac.co.uk>
Subject: French tapers with access to OUI - FM ?
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 98 15:22:13 PDT
Could any tapers with access to the French Radio Station OUI FM
please get in touch with me.
I need a show taping that is due to be broadcast next week.
Have lots to trade.
Merci
Dave,
From: "Vikas Bhatia" <vikas10@hotmail.com>
Subject: Questions about taping+D100
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 12:24:04 PDT
Hi everyone.
I recorded my first show last night, and now have alot of questions to
ask. I'll try to remember as many as possible. Here it goes:
1. I have read many times that the battery life is not very long in the
D100. I put the supplied batteries in the D100 about 1.5 hours before
the show, and after half an hour of recording, the battery was half
dead. Could it just be that they were not fully charged or does the
clock actually suck up the juice?
2. While taping, inoticed the levels were peaking at -12, and the
rec.level knob was at about 7-8. So i turned the knob up to get the
levels around -4 and -2, but the knob was turned to 10, but the levels
went no higher than -12. Why is that?
3. I know using the light uses up the battery. What about using the
headphones or the remote?
4. Whats the best way to point my MarcSounds mics? I had them clipped
to my shirt collar facing down towards the ground. The recording came
out exactly like what i was hearing at the show. Bad PA and low vocals.
5. How long has the battery been known to last after a full charge?
6. Should the tape be unpacked in the couple of hours before the show,
or right before i'm about to tape?
7. How do most people like to sneak in their gear? Last night was not
tough at all because there was no security. But I'm thinking it might
be a problem when i go to tape some big bands that don't allow taping.
For now, that's all i can think of. Thanks to everyone in advance.
Hopefully these questions will lead to better tapes in the future.
Vikas
Vikas Bhatia
vikas10@hotmail.com
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From: "Vikas Bhatia" <vikas10@hotmail.com>
Subject: Extra DATs for trade
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 1998 12:44:11 PDT
I have the following DATs available for trade:
Pearl Jam - 9/24/96 Merriweather Post Pavilion
Schoeps MK4 -> Schoeps pre-amp -> D8
Smashing Pumpkins - 10/18+19/97 Bridge Benefit (both nights)
Shure SM-57 -> D8
Pearl Jam - 01/31/98 Monkeywrnech Radio
FM -> Tascam DA30 MKII
Would like to trade these for DATs from bands such as Pearl Jam, RATM,
Soundgarden, Nirvana, TOOL, NIN, STP, Smashing Pumpkins, U2, Alice in
Chains, Mad Season, and so on...
Thanks.
Vikas
Vikas Bhatia
vikas10@hotmail.com
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