DAT-Heads Digest #706
Contents:
ISO: Mogwai (Paul Skinner)
DA-20MKII for sale, looking for Phish tapers (Rick Gebhard)
ISO: Capsules for AKG C61s ("Paul Santinelli")
re: selling tapes :( (John Read)
RE: SELLING BOOTLEGS.... (LONG) ("Lee Stanley")
WANTED - USED SBM-1 (willard robinson)
Moving WAV files between systems (Gordon Gidluck)
Jon Spencer Taping (DeMatt Harkins)
Inquiring mind (Steven Kingsley)
liquid tension experiment shows!!! ("" )
80 min cdr media (les gordon)
Where can you buy DATport? (Steven M Burtchaell)
Soundscape/Turtlebeach Figi? (PRNCPLS@aol.com)
Sony Card (Yalk@aol.com)
ISO: GD 7/29, 7/30, 7/31 '88 Laguna Seca (William Shaw)
Re: SB Live vs. Turtle Beach Fiji (Correction) ("Norbert Hahn")
ISO...Elvis Presley (Colin Liston)
Re: HHB CDR 800 Question (NDC) (Jeff Lester)
CD-r clone coding ("Lee Stanley")
Re: dvd->cdr ("byrne crow")
From: Paul Skinner <paul_skinner@dialog.com>
Subject: ISO: Mogwai
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:41:04 +0000
Hi All,
I'm putting together a checklist/guide to Mogwai tapes out there. Any
info you might have to add would be muchos welcomed.
I've got a skeletal version of the site together now at
http://www.paulskinner.com/mogwaitape.html . Take a look and let me know
what I'm missing/wrong on!
Thanks
Paul
From: Rick Gebhard <rgebhard@remc7.k12.mi.us>
Subject: DA-20MKII for sale, looking for Phish tapers
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:09:18
First, I have a DA-20MKII for sale. Mint, mint, mint! Less than 20 hours,
but I'm getting a DA-30. $600 OBO.
Second, at two fall Phish shows, I gave blanks and postage to tapers as I
entered. I normally tape, but my wife is pregnant and we needed seats. I
haven't seen or heard anything from either show. Grand Rapids 11/11/98 amd
University of Illinois at Chicago 11/7/98.
I can understand being too busy to make clones, but just keeping the blanks
is pretty rude and not how tapers should treat each other. If you are one
of these guys, please send my blanks or the shows as you agreed.
If anyone has these shows and would be willing to pass them on for a b&p or
a trade, I'd appreciate it. It's been long enough now that I don't really
expect a reply (unfortunately).
Thanks for any help,
Rick
From: "Paul Santinelli" <darkstar@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: ISO: Capsules for AKG C61s
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 06:52:46 -0800
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From: John.Read@infores.com (John Read)
Subject: re: selling tapes :(
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:23:53 -0600
I thought this thread was worth putting in my two cents worth of
bandwidth:
I vote for NEVER selling a bootleg.. It sounds bad, it feels bad, it
just IS bad. I have been trading analogs (and now DATs) for about 14
years and I have never before heard of anyone trying to rationalize
selling tapes even for the price of the blank. This is why we TRADE
folks. I buy a blank, and give it to someone who will make a copy of
a show for me: end of story. If postage is involved, you give them a
stamped envelope. Money for bootlegs in any form has always been bad
news. We do not have the right to tape our beloved bands, they give
us the privilege. Let's honor their request to not sell these even
for nonprofit. It was always bad karma to ask a taper to buy blanks
from them in the good ole Grateful Dead days, why start now? DATs
are readily available, especially mail-order, (www.tape.com is just
one good cheap source @3-5 bucks a tape.) Why mess with a tradition
that has served us all so well for decades?
Thanks for the space to cast my vote. -jr, Chicago
It's only bucks, you don't need no jack.
So won't you please relax and lay way back.
-Bob Weir "money-money"
From: "Lee Stanley" <lstanley@askcts.com>
Subject: RE: SELLING BOOTLEGS.... (LONG)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:19:43 -0600
I'm glad to know this information. I live about 15 minutes from Montevallo.
I may just go pay him a visit and tell him personally how I feel about it.
Either way, being local to this joker will make it easy to rain on his
parade. I'll contact some agencies in the Birmingham area and see what can
be done about it. This guy is a slap in the face to tapers everywhere.
Peace,
Lee
From: "Williams, Michelle" <williams@rti.org>
Subject: SELLING BOOTLEGS.... (LONG)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:03:41 -0500
While I'm on the subject, here is another...(reprinted with permission from
Don)
=====Original Message=====
From: Cheekweezl@aol.com [mailto:Cheekweezl@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 1999 11:50 AM
To: Leftover@lists.colorado.edu; hgmn@indigo.vantagep.com
Subject: SELLING BOOTLEGS.... (LONG)
Hey all,
Hope this finds all feeling healthy. Sorry if the subject is misleading but
I am NOT selling bootlegs. But a man by the name of Vernon Edwards from
Montevallo, Al. is.
Somehow, I got signed up for this crooks mailing list. Have no clue to how
but here's the deal. For the past few months, he's been sending me catalogs
of various "Live Recordings" he has for sale. I thought I'd let it pass but
after the 5th catalog, I decided to try and crack down on this. THIS IS
WRONG AND HE SHOULD KNOW IT...
Lemme give you a lil bit of the intro to his catalog:
"...all are high-quality CDR's and include some realy hard to find titles.
I cannot guarantee sound quality as audio quality can be very subjective.
Price is TWENTY-FIVE DOLLARS PER DISC including postage. If i dont' hear
from you after 3 lists, I will asume that you are no longer interested in
this type merchandise and you name will be removed from the list."
Well, SIX catalogs later, he STILL hasn't stopped. Some of the bands in his
catalog include Grateful Dead, Phish, Dave Matthews, Blind Mellon, The
Allman Bros. Band, and many many more. See, it's idiots like this guy that
RUIN it for everyone who is doing this for fun and trying to spread good
music to others around. I just think it's wrong and something should be
done about it.
Is there legal action that can be taken on a person doing this? I mean, he
even ADVERTISES.
Ok, sorry to take up your time. But i just wanted to make this known to all
my other family members. If you would like to contact Mr. Edwards and let
him know that what he's doing is wrong here's all his information:
Vernon Edwards
103 Yellowhammer Circle
Montevallo, Al. 35115
205-663-5185
recsbymail@aol.com
Thanks for listening everyone. It's nice to have a family to spill your
guts to. Let's keep lookin out for each other. Much love to you all...
Dixie beer and crawdads,
Don
Michelle
http://cyberrealm.net/~guyute/tapelist.htm
~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
Gray skies are beauty, it ain't just the blue, and the sun don't shine no
sweeter than your milk white moon.
Soft on your senses caressing your soul,
you're smoothing out your edges in the moonlight's flow
* Refried Confusion http://www.refriedconfusion.com
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
From: willard robinson <willr@star.net>
Subject: WANTED - USED SBM-1
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:27:08 -0500
Anyone got an SBM-1 they are looking to sell for some new-year's $$$
drop me a line,
tc
Will
willr@star.net
www.star.net/People/~willr/dat-list.txt
From: Gordon Gidluck <ggidluck@artelco.com>
Subject: Moving WAV files between systems
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:07:32 -0800
I would like to perhaps publish a list of innovative ways to transmit
those valuable DAT recordings between one PC and another. My situation
is that I have two computers one has a digital i/o card and the other
has a regular soundcard. Other users, I know, have desktop PC's with
digital i/o and laptops to which they would like to get their audio
files into digitally. The system I have with the digital i/o is a Win3.1
system. I want to start playing around with Win95 audio software on the
other machine so I want to copy files to the new system and do some
mastering on it with new software like Samplitude 2496 which is Win95
only.
Idea:
=====
Use the serial ports on each system to transmit the data at 115200bps.
This requires a serial cable/null modem adapter/laplink software.
Throughput was about 80mb per hour in laplink's fast mode. (A 19 minute
recording in 44.1Khz stereo to 2.5hrs.) This is about 8:1 slower than
realtime playback.
Send me your ideas and let's compile a list on dat-heads. I would be
interested to know if some of you have used ethernet 10mbps/100mbps
cards and have timings on data throughput in seconds. Maybe you have an
idea requiring radio frequency or infra-red transmitters/receivers. If
some of you are using USB let us know how quick that can get.
Just to establish some ground rules, let's just say (1) your idea has to
make a bit for bit copy of the file, and (2) you have to have actually
tested it for data throughput. Let's also say your idea (3) has to be
able to handle a CD's worth of data 650mb. (ie. You couldn't suggest to
use a 100mb Zip drive, unless you use a program to break your file up
and reassemble it on the other system. A Jaz drive would be ok, because
it can handle 1gb).
Let me say that I believe that this is relevant to the dat-head
community. I will leave it up to you if you want .cc. dat-heads or not
on your ideas. I will compile our list of ideas and timings. You will
receive credit on dat-heads if you are first to suggest that idea.
Gordon
From: DeMatt Harkins <dharkins@tra.net>
Subject: Jon Spencer Taping
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:13:58 -0800
I'm going to see the JSBX next weekend and wanted to know if they
allow taping. Or even better, if they allow board patches. Thanks.
DeMatt
From: Steven Kingsley <steven@airsys.net>
Subject: Inquiring mind
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:16:55 -0500
With all this talk of the dye's inside a cd I thought of something.
If I spin a dat, to a cd... then the cd ends up a coaster, and I for some
strange reason reap great joy from breaking the cd in half, am I exposing
myself to any dangerous (carcinogen?) chemicals?
Curious;
Steve
From: <gboss>
Subject: liquid tension experiment shows!!!
Reply-To: gboss@voicenet.com
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:33:15 -0500
> Here is another LTE update from Mike Portnoy...
> One last LTE date has been added on the east coast:
> Friday January 22nd - Theater of Living Arts in Philadelphia, Pa.
> 215-922-1011
>
>
> This now makes the "final" itinerary of
> the ONLY live appearances
> (maybe ever!?!?!) of
> LIQUID TENSION EXPERIMENT
> featuring Mike Portnoy, John Petrucci, Jordan Rudess and Tony Levin:
>
>
> Thursday January 21st - The Bowery Ballroom, New York City
> 212-533-2111
>
> Friday January 22nd - TLA, Philadelphia, PA
> 215-922-1011
>
> Saturday January 30th - Sabian's Drums along the Biltmore
> (exclusive to NAMM attendees) Los Angeles, CA
>
> Monday February 1st - The Roxy, Los Angeles CA
> 310-278-9457
>
>
>
> Don't miss what will surely be a once in a lifetime experience!!!!
I will be attending (taping, too) the Philly show. If any other DAT
heads are planning on going to a show, I'd love to set up a trade.
--
"Know that your place in life
Is where you want to be
Don't let them tell you that
You owe it all to me"
-N. Peart
http://www.voicenet.com/~gboss/
From: les gordon <lesg@microserve.net>
Subject: 80 min cdr media
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:16:04 -0500 (EST)
hello all, the new pricing for the 80 min cdr media is $2.79 each for 10
cds. for a 50 ct. pack the price is $2.69 plus shipping.
thanks and sorry about the price confusion.
From: Steven M Burtchaell <smb01@gnofn.org>
Subject: Where can you buy DATport?
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:16:24 -0600 (CST)
Noticed info passed on the DATport and want to buy one.
Know of any dealers that carry them in stock?
Thanks!
Steve Burtchaell
From: PRNCPLS@aol.com
Subject: Soundscape/Turtlebeach Figi?
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:28:32 EST
I am interested in doing some post production Dat editing using my pc. I was
wondering what the best card within moderate price is for this application. I
want to spend no more than 400.00 on this. Could someone with soundforge or
cool edit email me and help me to make a software decision as well. thanks for
the bw. Will
From: Yalk@aol.com
Subject: Sony Card
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:28:13 EST
Sony has teamed up with Citibank for a cobranded card that accrues Sony points
for every dollar you spend. Double and triple points are also possible by
purchasing Sony products through participating dealers like me.
Points can be redeemed for virtually any Sony product, from movie tickets to
stereo equipment and more.
Those of you that use cards should consider this as a way to get more Sony for
less!
I have a large supply of applications and more details are at
http://www.klay.com/shop/sonycard/index.html
Thanks!
Regards,
Klay Anderson
klay@klay.com
http://www.klay.com
1.800.FOR.KLAY
From: William Shaw <bshaw@skyway.com>
Subject: ISO: GD 7/29, 7/30, 7/31 '88 Laguna Seca
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 09:48:38 -0800
Anybody got sweet auds or sbds of the 1988 Laguna Seca run?
A few of my earliest Dead shows I'd love to get nice dats of 'em.
DAT list URL on request, thanks!
mailto:shark@skyway.com
--
-Bill
From: "Norbert Hahn" <HAHN@HRZ3.HRZ.TU-Darmstadt.De>
Subject: Re: SB Live vs. Turtle Beach Fiji (Correction)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:52:48 +0100
On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:27:22 +0100 I wrote...
> Subject: Re: SB Live vs. Turtle Beach Fiji
> Sample rate is converted to 44.1 kHz on the fly or
> any other, depending on the recording program.
This seems to be not exact:
Any digital input, either from CDr player, S/P DIF or
internal sound processing is first converted to 48k
samples per second and then converted to what ever
the recording program requests. There is no
"direct through" or what ever it may be named....
Norbert
From: Colin Liston <cliston@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
Subject: ISO...Elvis Presley
Reply-To: Colin Liston <cliston@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:15:49 -0500 (EST)
Okay I am looking for Elvis Presley you know the King? If anyone has any
live unreleased Elvis Presley please let me knoww.
thanks
colin
>From: Colin Liston <cliston@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
>Subject: Elvis anyone?
>Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:43:56 -0500 (EST)
>
>Does anyone have any live Elvis or know if any live Elvis cirrculates?
>Not looking for legit live releases, but looking for live unreleased
>stuff.
>thanks
>colin
From: lester@gandalf.sp.trw.com (Jeff Lester)
Subject: Re: HHB CDR 800 Question (NDC)
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 11:17:15 -0800
"Michael A. Kelly" <mike_kelly@rocketmail.com> asks:
>I bought an HHB CDR 800 a couple of months ago. I have
>transferred a lot of my DATs to CD, writing manual tracks in
>the process. This is nice in that there is no break in sound
>from one track to another, however, when I copy these disks
>using the disk syncro function, none of the tracks are copied.
>
>I thought the reason the CDs I made weren't transferring
>correctly because my play deck is an old CD player I had with
>NO digital outs. However, this doesn't explain why store
>bought CD tracks transfer w/out error. Does there need to be a
>break in the sound or do I need a CD player with Dig outs?
If you want to transfer track IDs, you must use a digital out of the
CD player. That's the only way that information can get transferred.
The track IDs probably transfer correctly on store bought CDs because
there is a break between tracks and the HHB is set to some auto-mode so
that when there is a break it adds the track ID. Yes, you need a CD player
with digital output.
-Jeff Lester
From: "Lee Stanley" <lstanley@askcts.com>
Subject: CD-r clone coding
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:47:27 -0600
I remember reading somewhere that a code is copied on cd's that will prevent
you from making further copies after one or two generations. Does anyone
know a little more about this and is it something I need to be concerned
about if I'm 'tricking' a Philips CDR-870? Thanks in advance and for the
b/w.
Peace,
Lee
From: "byrne crow" <draven_94@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: dvd->cdr
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:08:00 PST
Panasonic will release next gen DVD players mid 1999 that will be
compatible with: CD CDR CD-RW DVD DVDAudio1.0 DVD-R DVD-RAM
Of the current DVD players, the first gens can't read CD-R.
Bottom line, wait til the new generation of players are out, same goes
with Dolby Digital receivers, current crop likely won't be fully
compatible with the lossless DVD Audio 1.0 spec.
Just clarifying since panasonic will be the first out of the block with
the new hybrids. No idea if the same laser used to read all media.
Can you say early adapter/adopter.
>From: "John L" <JLevene@idcomm.com>
>Just wanted to inform anyone that is thinking of using a DVD as a
>playback
>machine for burning CDR's, that not all DVD's will play a burned >CD.
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