DAT-Heads Digest #712
Contents:
sampling questyon regarding WINAMP ("jesse volner")
ISO Wheat 11/5 CMJ &11/7Philly (Edward B McGrath)
That pesky space between tracks on CDRs... Help! (Jonathan Haynes)
SCMS strip w/ID's? (Michael Schuster)
ISO Pete Townshend 9 Nov. 1998 (St.Steven@worldnet.att.net)
Re: Fostex D5 & Tascam DA20 (Andrew Haley)
Fostex D5 / Sony D8 Digital Interconnect ("Edwards,Kevin L")
Re: How to create tracks when CD burning a long show (Steve Gaarder)
[Fwd: Re: PCM to DAT] (Gordon Gidluck)
FS. AT8410a Shock Mounts (John Schmidt)
Re: DAT-Heads Digest #710 (ElTortuga4@aol.com)
FS: Sony RM-D100K (Wjbarnum@aol.com)
Sony 60ES and 59ES for sale (120+ Grateful Dead dats also) ("Matkowski, Jason")
looking for Cooper@lightlink (Alan E Kayser)
ISO: ("Segal, Dan S159")
newbies/unideckers offer (David Hollister)
Gefell Mics For Sale. (Jeff Anderson)
iso st etienne/pulp/"britpop" (GaoBest@aol.com)
Extra DATs for trade ("Kevin Landry")
ooops, bought sblive can't get the digital i/o to record from Sony D8 (Daniel Barton)
ISO: Derek & Dominoes w/ Duane Allman; Tampa 1970? (Delano)
DAT uni offer (chris wallace)
Black Crowes: 2/16/99 (Richard Hammond)
2/5 Bela Fleck & the Flecktones Show (Kirk Willingham)
Tascam CDR burner ("Rob Bertrando")
CDR 870 CD-RW oddity (Michael Schuster)
From: "jesse volner" <mentholiptus@hotmail.com>
Subject: sampling questyon regarding WINAMP
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 18:00:24 PST
Sorry for lack of DAT content, but I was wondering if any of you were
familiar with WINAMP.
My question is:
If you put a song in MP3 format, from an analog cassette, would
the WINAMP sampleing freq read 44.1 khz, or less? Do you need to use a
CD or better, or will winamp still show as sampling at 44.1 khz?
Thanks for you help and patience. This must be my 13th DATless
question by now. :)
jesse
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From: Edward B McGrath <sac19854@saclink.csus.edu>
Subject: ISO Wheat 11/5 CMJ &11/7Philly
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 20:22:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject says it all. I am looking for anyone that has ever taped the band
Wheat. I have a decent amount of stuff to trade and will do most
anything for something by them. They opened for Jack Drag in Philly and
play Boston every now and then. I don't believe that they have ever
played the West Coast-- thanks in advance- Barin McGrath
Please email me- sac19854@saclink.csus.edu
Also looking for other indie rock or any space rock stuff from Philly-
(Lenola, Asteroid #4, Photon Band)
From: Jonathan Haynes <biscuit@gol.com>
Subject: That pesky space between tracks on CDRs... Help!
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:31:49 +0900
Well, as many have probably experienced by this time--I am trying to
"restore" a recording corrupted by non-DAO software. Removing the digital
silences placed between tracks on a live show. I am using Easy CD-DA
Extractor 3 to rip the offending CD's tracks, then sending them into
DartPro32 to laboriously cut/paste them into one file, manually removing
the space between each track. Aside from being terribly time-consuming,
this is leaving me with no track IDs! Plan B was to use the "Remove
Digital Silence" feature of the aforementioned ripper software, which still
left a small d/o where 2 seconds of digital silence used to be--not really
acceptable for trading. Can somebody with experience in this procedure
offer me a tip or two? AND, to compound things, I can't get Adaptec Easy
CD Creator to recognize the 80 minute CDR format--has there been a patch
written for this? Please comment on your experiences in this area. Jonathan
From: Michael Schuster <schuster@panix.com>
Subject: SCMS strip w/ID's?
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 07:47:11 -0500 (EST)
LocoBrian@aol.com writes:
> Now that I've burned over a 150 CD-R's off my Phillips CDR870, I'd like to be
> able to clone some of these for friends with out having to pull out the
> original DATs. Does anybody know of a reasonable SCMS stripper that will strip
> just that, without removing track numbers off of the disc. I've been using a
> friends Audio Alchemy DTI (the original) but it strips away everything. Any
> clues? Or is it time to get a "real" CD burner and quite playing the swap game
> (gosh, I feel so guilty when I do that...NOT!)?
AFAIK there have only been two SMS strippers that pass start-id's. One is
the kit published by Elektor Magazine, and the Philips CDR machines light
the "copy prohibit" indicator even though the SCMS bits are reset to 00. The
other is a commercial Japanese box that some of the Minidisc importers are
selling (at twice the street price). According to posted reports it works
on MD recorders but nobody has yet tried it on the Philips CDR machines.
From: St.Steven@worldnet.att.net
Subject: ISO Pete Townshend 9 Nov. 1998
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:16:33 -0500
My apologies for wasting bandwidth on this - Pete's show at Shepherds
Bush Empire. I received it on analog but would greatly appreciate a dat
clone. Thanks.
From: Andrew Haley <aph@pasanda.cygnus.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Fostex D5 & Tascam DA20
Date: 18 Jan 1999 14:43:05 -0000
> From: lagrassa-tv@mindspring.com
> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 16:46:30 -0500
>
> >in ref to Andrew Haley <aph@pasanda.cygnus.co.uk>
> >Date: 14 Jan 1999 11:27:25 -0000
>
> >The D5 has vastly superior I/O, with fully balanced
> >analog and digital. It also has SPDIF optical. It also
> >has an error rate display. It does not support SCMS at all.
>
> Well.....if I play a DAT with scms of 10 on the D5, and use the
> S/Pdif out....my other consumer decks will NOT clone. Is this a
> matter of supporting scms?
It's what I'd expect. As far as I know the D5 always records "00".
However, on plyback it outputs the subcode as it appears on the tape,
including SCMS. What would you expect it to do?
Andrew.
From: "Edwards,Kevin L" <edwardkl@dbs-systems.com>
Subject: Fostex D5 / Sony D8 Digital Interconnect
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 09:52:53 -0500
Hope this is beneficial to others as well.
I own a Sony TCD-D8 and a Fostex D5.
The D5 has S/PDIF optical and AES/EBU coax digital interconnects. Two
of the options for doing digital transfers between these include:
1. Sony cable POC-DA12P for optical S/PDIF input/output to Sony
7-pin
2. Core-Sounds cable with 7-pin to XLR (AES/EBU)
What are the advantages and disadvantages (aside from cost) of these
different methods of digital interconnect? Are there other options that
provide features I may find useful?
From: Steve Gaarder <gaarder@actech.com>
Subject: Re: How to create tracks when CD burning a long show
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:06:37 -0500 (EST)
Goldenhawk's CDRWIN can do what you want. You do this be creating a
"cue sheet", which is a text file containing the file name(s) and the
times (in minutes, seconds, and frames) where you want the track
boundaries to be. It will not insert blank space between the tracks
(unless you ask it to). It's not shareware, but it's inexpensive, and
a demo version is available. It's at http://www.goldenhawk.com
Steve Gaarder Network and Systems Administrator
gaarder@cmold.com C-MOLD, Ithaca, N.Y., USA
From: Gordon Gidluck <ggidluck@artelco.com>
Subject: [Fwd: Re: PCM to DAT]
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:15:35 -0800
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Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 10:01:26 -0800
From: Gordon Gidluck <ggidluck@artelco.com>
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> From: Robert Bertrando <rbbert@pyramid.net>
> Subject: PCM to DAT
> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:19:57 -0800
>
> Does the pitch of the music rise or fall going from PCM (44.05 sampling
> rate) to DAT (44.1 sampling rate)? I know we're only talking about 1% or
> so here, but I'm curious nonetheless.
The principles involved here are the same as when recording between two
analog recorders and the tape is moving faster on the recording
machine. The playback would appear to be slower.
In your example, the DAT @44.1K is using more samples to record the same
information, so playback would be perceived as slower (if you could
tell).
Gordon Gidluck
From: John Schmidt <jschmidt@mail.hotchkiss.pvt.k12.ct.us>
Subject: FS. AT8410a Shock Mounts
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:30:21 -0600
Hey! I have an extra pair of the Audio Technica AT8410a
Shock mounts for sale. They are in perfect condition and
have been used probably 10-12 times. If anyone is
interested in them I am looking to get $55 plus shipping
for the pair. A link about the mount is:
http://www.audiotechnica.com/guide/other/misc/mounts/index.html
Let me know if you are interested, John
======================
John Schmidt
jschmidt@mail.hotchkiss.pvt.k12.ct.us
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From: ElTortuga4@aol.com
Subject: Re: DAT-Heads Digest #710
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:43:32 EST
Id really like a pair of tickets to the Dave & Tim show in Nashville if anyone
can help let me know
thanks
Daniel
From: Wjbarnum@aol.com
Subject: FS: Sony RM-D100K
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:09:00 EST
$150 will get you my RM-D100K . It has never been used and is still in the
box(opened).
I originally purchased it to make clones and write Start/end ID's from 2 TCD-
D8's.
Comes with the remote and can accommodate both optical(toslink) and coaxial
digital input and output connectors. It has a 7-pin connector as well.
Works with TCD-D100, TCD-D8,D7 and D3.
Bill
http://members.aol.com/Wjbarnum/audiovideo.htm
From: "Matkowski, Jason" <JMatkowski@RaymondKarsan.com>
Subject: Sony 60ES and 59ES for sale (120+ Grateful Dead dats also)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:18:16 -0500
I have a Sony 60ES, Sony 59ES and a bunch of DATS for sale.
The 60ES has very low hours- around 150
The 59ES has around 300 hours
120-130 Dead dats from 69-95
I have had the decks for some time now but have not been using them. I have
not traded for over a year and is seems pointless to keep the decks around
any longer. I recently transferred a majority of my dats to CD and do not
need any of the dats or the machines any longer.
I am located in the Philadelphia area but would be willing to send them just
about anywhere. Get in touch with me if you are interested and we can take
it from there. I do not have a completed list of the dats yet but will have
it done by the end of the week!
Thanks,
Jason
From: Alan E Kayser <aek1@erols.com>
Subject: looking for Cooper@lightlink
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:51:21 -0500
I traded tapes with "Cooper's" a bit back. I tried you at your old
e-mail with no luck. Please get in touch with me, I need that tape from
you again!!! If you recall, it was the one from Erie, PA.
Alan Kayser
From: "Segal, Dan S159" <Dan.Segal@CIGNA.COM>
Subject: ISO:
Reply-To: dansegal@pcnet.com
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 14:03:10 -0500
God Street Wine and/or Native @ the Wetlands, NYC.
I have plenty to trade. Thanks.
Dan Segal
From: David Hollister <dhollist@iphase.com>
Subject: newbies/unideckers offer
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 13:35:29 -0600 (MST)
Hi all,
I am trying to pare down my collection some as I have lots of tapes I just
don't listen to.
I've got two sets of 10 tapes each. Some are 60m, some 90m. I'll offer
to two people one of these sets for $40, postage paid by me. That makes it
less than $4/tape, which is very likely to be less than I paid for the blanks
on average (for all those uptight people out there)
Here are the groups:
1: Dead 8/18,19/70 (3 tapes), 3/3/71, 4/11/78, 11/24/78, 10/9/82, and
Phish 10/31/96 (3 tapes)
2: MMW 10/14/95, 4/13/96, Dead 10/11,12/84 (3 tapes), 2/14/69, 12/30/69 (2
tapes), and Phish 10/31/94 (2 tapes)
First two to email me requesting a unique group number gets them. If I don't
respond, that means you weren't fast enough on that reply button :)
We'll work out the details after I get two people. You can tell me that either
group of tapes is OK, but you can't have both. I'd like to get tapes to two
different people. Depending on how well this goes, there may be more coming.
--
David Hollister Interphase Corporation dhollist@iphase.com
Software Engineer Dallas, TX
http://www.public.asu.edu/~dhollist
From: Jeff Anderson <janderson@texas.nustats.com>
Subject: Gefell Mics For Sale.
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:17:48 +0000
Hey all you crazy Freaks!
A buddy of mine, Jimmer Hart, is getting married : ( and selling his
taping gear.
and has the following for sale:
A matched pair of Microtech Gefell SMS2000 series microphones in the
case.
Hypercard capsules (M20)
Cardoid capsules (M21)
2 Micrtotech Shockmounts
Everything listed for a great low price of $2100. I know this sounds
like a lot, but if you are serious about gear, this is pretty much top
of the line...and is saving you a $1000 if you were to buy this
new...check the Oades and Nutter at Sonic Sense for
comparisons..Everything is in Mint condition. Here is how to get in
touch with Jimmer: cell phone-214-207-7708 anytime.
thanks Jeff
From: GaoBest@aol.com
Subject: iso st etienne/pulp/"britpop"
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:06:04 EST
Not sure if anyone here is into St Etienne or Pulp, but I would love to get
DCL or DAT copies from analog masters for any shows you may have recorded of
theirs... admittedly I've only been trading on DAT for a month, but I did
record St Etienne in San Francisco on a TCD-D100... I have a good analog
selection, mostly first generation tapes, that I could copy to DAT for those
of you obsessives who need every or most St Etienne/Pulp concerts or other
Britpop bands, from both audience and BBC. Please email me directly, ta
mike
gaobest@aol.com
From: "Kevin Landry" <kml0@itw.com>
Subject: Extra DATs for trade
Reply-To: "Kevin Landry" <kml0@itw.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:13:06 -0500
I have extra copies of the following shows I would like to trade:
Widespread Panic 4.18.97 SB (on a 90m unlabeled Maxell)
Strangefolk 6.14.98 SB (on a 60m Sony DG)
let me know...
peace...kev
From: Daniel Barton <dfbarton@bellsouth.net>
Subject: ooops, bought sblive can't get the digital i/o to record from Sony D8
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:32:33 -0500
I know, I know I shouldn't have bought the sblive soundcard. There's
still a chance I can swap it out from where I bought it. Meanwhile, I
wanted to try it out and I was unable to record from a Sony D8 using the
7 pin Digital I/O connector / RCA adapter. I plugged the RCA into the
S/PDIF input in the sblive digital I/O daughterboard which was cabled
properly to the soundcard. I went into the audio hq/mixer and selected
S/PDIF line in as the active input source, but when I tried to record
from the D8 using either Cool Edit or SoundForge, no sound comes through
the card. Am I missing something simple here? I'm able to record from
analog tapes and lp's using the line in on the main soundcard, so I
assumed that to record from a DAT it would simply be a matter of using
the S/PDIF line in on the digital I/O daughterboard. This is just so I
can try the card out. I will most likely be swapping it for a
TurtleBeach Fiji or something comparable in the $200 range. Any
suggestions on an alternative card and/or help with my sblive would be
appreciated. I'm running a PII 450 with 2940UW and Yamaha CRW4416s.
Thanks - Dan Barton
From: Delano <bluesky@mindspring.com>
Subject: ISO: Derek & Dominoes w/ Duane Allman; Tampa 1970?
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:48:16 -0500
Hi;
I have heard that an audience source of this show is in fairly wide
circulation. All I know is that it is Derek & Dominoes w/ Duane Allman;
Tampa
1970? Duane only played with Derek & the Dominoes once so I would love to get
this on DAT. Please contact me to set up a trade. My list can be found at
the
web sites below.
Take Care,
Delano
<http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Center/3834/index.htm>http://www.mind
spring.com/~bluesky/default.html
http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Center/3834/index.htm
From: chris wallace <chriswallace@earthlink.net>
Subject: DAT uni offer
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:25:39 -0800
hey now,
i have for b&p (sony dg) the following (take all btw):
Phish
10-15-94 II - 1x60
9-24-88 I,II - 1x90
9-8-88 all - 1x60
5-25-88- 1x90
7-23-88 Set 3 with 11/23/85 - 1x60
5/4/86 with 3/6/87 - 1`x90
12/1/84 with 3/4/85 - 1x90
moe.
9-7-95 - 1x60
wsp
1-5-87 - 1x60
zero
5/19/94 with Funky Meters 4-26-96 1x90
total is: 5x60s, 5x90s
e me if interested. if you didnt hear from me they're spoken for. thx
chris
chriswallace@earthlink.net
http://home.earthlink.net/~chriswallace/datlist.html
From: Richard Hammond <rlhammon@niia.net>
Subject: Black Crowes: 2/16/99
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 17:54:38 -0600
Wondering if anyone here is going to this show in Michigan or not. I'll
be there taping with Core Sounds and an M1, but would love to patch
into someone with better mics.
One possibility would be to borrow mics, but unfortunately I don't
know (personally) any tapers in the area so that probally won't happen.
The Crowes allow taping, so it's a non stealth operation, good seats
still to be had (I picked up 26th row center a week after they went on
sale).
From: Kirk Willingham <kiwillingham@davidson.edu>
Subject: 2/5 Bela Fleck & the Flecktones Show
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:21:52 -0500
I'd just like to let y'all know that Bela Fleck & the Flecktones will be
playing Friday, February 5 in Davidson, NC. The show will be in Love
Auditorium on the Davidson College campus and will begin at 8:00 PM, with
doors opening at 7:30. Tickets are $20. They can be purchased by phone at
704.892.2135 from 2:30-5:30 PM, Monday through Friday.
If you need information on this show you can either email me or call the
number listed above. This show is presented by the Davidson College
Concert Committee.
Take it easy,
Kirk Willingham
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From: "Rob Bertrando" <rbbert@pyramid.net>
Subject: Tascam CDR burner
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 16:27:58 -0800
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From: Michael Schuster <schuster@panix.com>
Subject: CDR 870 CD-RW oddity
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:48:43 -0500 (EST)
Here's an oddity I noticed. Try this:
Record anything on a consumer audio CD-RW disc, finalize, and eject.
Now re-insert the disc. Since it is finalized, notice that the deck just
displays "READING" but **not** "OPC" since this is a finalized disc.
Now press ERASE then REC. It will display DISC and proceed to erase the
table of contents. You are now ready to record on a blank CD-RW disc.
Press REC and then PLAY and ... voila ... you are recording.
What's wrong with this picture? Right! Where's the "OPC"? Woops!
Has the deck really started recording on a disc that it has not performed
a power calibration on?
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