DAT-Heads Digest #750
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ANYONE FROM LONDON ON THIS LIST??? (GDM)
Please tape these northwest shows... ! (Joseph A Najera)
Help...I need to find Dave/Tim tickets...(NDHC) (KindTaper@aol.com)
Newbie offer(Phish, moe, Bela) (Jacob Wolkowitz)
Anyone tape at Wembley Arena ? ("jeremy")
AT4041 mic question ("Christopher T. Carfagno")
ISO: Dave Davies taper / will trade for brother Ray (Ibiza Bar)
Re: AT853's : "I know I'm gonna get flamed..." (pkmin@rsc.rockwell.com)
Glitch when recording over "end" (Dave & Ceil)
Dat to CD software/WSP 4-18-98 SBD (PRNCPLS@mindspring.com)
Just omni it - on stage mic'ing (pkmin@rsc.rockwell.com)
In need of help: Dave/Tim DAT or CDR (Robert Blakeslee Gilpin)
CSNY, for real??? I am so high... and alive !!! ("Joe Ray Skrha")
D8 "problem" (Chris Melia)
"Proprietary" modifications/low cost capsules/etc. (Jonathan Haynes)
From: Starsail@scruznet.com (GDM)
Subject: ANYONE FROM LONDON ON THIS LIST???
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:37:35 -0700
DAT-Heads,
I am looking ofr any tapers from London UK to trade with
..... Please drop me an email..
Gavin
From: Joseph A Najera <dmbandfan1@juno.com>
Subject: Please tape these northwest shows... !
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:47:44 -0800
If anyone can please get out and tape any of the following dates, I'd be
eternally grateful, and I'd replace your tapes/batteries/ticket...
The band is called Natalie Cortez and the Ultra Violets, and they'll be
touring in support of Sparklejet...
3/3/99 - Harringtons, Chico, CA - 9:30p
3/4/99 - Ash Street Saloon, Portland, OR - 9:30p
3/6/99 - Offramp, Seattle, WA - 9:30p
3/10/99 - Hannah's Pub, Olympia, WA - 9:00p (this show as open-mike
featured performers)
3/11/99 - Colourbox, Seattle, WA - 9:30p
3/13/99 - Tequila Bar, Olympia, WA - 9:30p
3/26/99 - Blue Lamp, San Francisco, CA - 10:00p
The band allows recording, SBD, AUD, etc... but it's venue-dependent...
please let me know if you can make it to any of these shows...
Thanks :)
Joe
Joe Najera ================================
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From: KindTaper@aol.com
Subject: Help...I need to find Dave/Tim tickets...(NDHC)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:04:13 EST
Sorry for the stray from content, but I am desperate in a search for tickets
for the Greenville and Nashville Dave Matthews/Tim Reynolds shows..
I need to find 1 or 2 tickets for each show. The Greenville show went on sale
only through the school I found out after having spent 30 minutes trying to
get through to ticketmaster. I have a friend that wants to go to both shows
with me. The Nashville was sold out when I found out I could go.
I will be taping at both shows and can provide cash, tapes or cd's of the
show(s), a patch at the show in which I will run your deck for you, or your
choice of other material from my collection. I really want to see these shows.
The new live show from Luther College they put out is great and I have never
seen Dave/Tim before. Any help in my search is appreciated. Please respond to
Kindtaper@Aol.com
Wes
From: Jacob Wolkowitz <bwolk@superlink.net>
Subject: Newbie offer(Phish, moe, Bela)
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 99 20:02:07 -0500
Hi there,
I have some extras of the following shows that I don't need. Source info is available at members.tripod.com/~Bwolk Only I want is unopened blanks in return preferably the same brand.
Bela Fleck 3/17/98 Tramps, NYC 1 90M Emeral System(Maxell)
moe. 10/3/97 Portland, OR 2 60M Kao Gold
moe 9/4/98 High Sierra 1 60M Fujifilm
Phish 12/12/97 Pepsi Arena, NY 1 90M Unlabeled
Phish 12/28/97 USair Arena, MD 2 60M Kao Gold
Phish 8/9/98 VA Beach, VA 2 60M Sony DGP
Thanks,
Jacob
From: "jeremy" <jeremy@jeremyland.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Anyone tape at Wembley Arena ?
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 03:13:28 -0000
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From: "Christopher T. Carfagno" <soundpro@cyberenet.net>
Subject: AT4041 mic question
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 22:19:32 -0400
Ethan wrote:
>HI,
>How do the sound professionals AT853 setups compare to say, a set of
AT4041's
>or something of the $300 each grade plus a $2-300 preamp
>Reply via-e-mail and on list
>Thanks alot,
>Ethan in Cranford, NJ
The 4041's are fine mics, for sure. They have a little better bass
response (virtually flat from 20 to 20k) than the 853's (rated at 30 to
20khz), and their max SPL capability is better than the 853's at 145dB
(the 853's are rated at 138dB).
The drawback is that they need 48 volt phantom power, they are larger
than the 853's and cost about 4 times as much.
For more info, both mics are available on our web site noted below.
Hope this helps!
Best regards,
Chris Carfagno
The Sound Professionals
1-800-213-3021
soundpro@cyberenet.net
http://www.soundprofessionals.com
From: Ibiza Bar <ibizabar@mindspring.com>
Subject: ISO: Dave Davies taper / will trade for brother Ray
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 22:44:11 -0500
I want to get the attention of the person whom posted up the tour dates for
Dave Davies several digests back.
If you or anybody else is taping Dave on his upcoming Northeast tour,
please get a hold of me. I'd like to trade my Ray Davies from Atlanta
5-17-98 for any Dave. Yes, I want to trade brother for brother :)
(Either Dave or some HQ Kinks pre-'87)
Thank you for the days...
Brian
From: pkmin@rsc.rockwell.com
Subject: Re: AT853's : "I know I'm gonna get flamed..."
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 20:09:07 -0800
"You'd be surprised at how many excellent sounding mics from very
well-known manufacturers start with low cost capsules."
Other than Earthworks, I'm curious which other manufacturers start with low cost
capsules(since "The Dat-Heads Big 3" Schoeps, Neumann, and B&K don't). I've
never heard straight Earthworks mics audience tapes but I have heard some tapes
with Earthworks spread omnis on stage (mixed with other mics and SBD) and those
mics do sound larger than life (especially with a nice subwoofer) in that
application. The main limitation with the Panasonic capsules is that no matter
how much you mod them, they still tend to be on the "noisy" side
(self-noise).....Pete
From: Dave & Ceil <daverite@erols.com>
Subject: Glitch when recording over "end"
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 23:32:16 -0500
I have a Tascam DA-20. I noticed a glitch in a
tape recently and it was about a minute into a new
group of recordings on a partially used DAT. I
always leave a minute of space after my last
recording and then write an "end mark." This
glitch corresponds with where that "end mark" was.
I have tried to record over this spot, always with
a glitch. The deck records perfectly otherwise.
Anyone else have this phenomenon?
-Dave Wright
From: PRNCPLS@mindspring.com
Subject: Dat to CD software/WSP 4-18-98 SBD
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 00:01:02 -0000
What is the best/most user friendly program for making cds from dats. I have
the easy cd creator program that came with my cdr. However, I cannot find a
feature that will allow me to take a show and brake it up into individual
tracks without cuts. Any help would be greatly appreciated. For the bw I
have the sbd from the 4-18-98 free wsp show in Athens it was taken from the
unedited master video that was pro shot. any takers? Will
From: pkmin@rsc.rockwell.com
Subject: Just omni it - on stage mic'ing
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 21:17:39 -0800
Dale was wondering about on stage mic'ing with some Neumann KM184s (cardioid
pattern mics). Here's my experience with on stage micing. First its best to
use omnis in this application. The reason I say this (other than the fact that
omnis are the ultimate mic, though taping conditions don't always make them the
most appropriate mic) is bc with on stage micing (and a typical "jam band")it is
often difficult to get a good mix of everything. Even with omnis. With
cardioids you are even more limited due to their directional polar pattern.
Generally I've noticed (given a typical jam band) that vocals usually lack with
on stage mics. With omnis one can compensate by placing the mics closer to the
vocal monitors. The way I usually decide upon where to place the omnis on stage
is by seeing where everything is laid out (guitar amps, bass amp, keyboard amp,
vocal monitors, drums, main PA system, crowd, etc) and imagining the sound/mix
of sound at the actual microphone locations(and then during the show or warm-up
actually go to each location and listen so you gain experience for the next
time). Knowing the sound of the band helps a lot and generally spreading them
10 feet or more will make for a really nice and spacy stereo image. Ultimately
what it boils down to is achieving a good balance of everything with only two
mics. Not easy, but possible. As far as on stage mics mixed with SBD, it
depends on what's going thru the board, and placing the mics appropriately to
compensate for what the board is lacking or to further compliment
things....there really is not cut and dry right way since every situation is
difn't. The main thing is to think about what you are doing and why you are
doing it. Ultimately nothing beats experience - you won't get it perfect the
first time...also don't let my comments scare you away from experimenting with
the cardioids (taping is a fairly $$ hobby, make the most with what you
have)...just turn your brain to cardioid mode when deciding mic
placement........seriously(and let us know how it goes)......Pete
From: Robert Blakeslee Gilpin <robert.gilpin@yale.edu>
Subject: In need of help: Dave/Tim DAT or CDR
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 01:10:16 -0500
Howdy. I am an avid DAT trader with over 2000 hours of GD/JGB. A
friend of mine loves DMB and Dave/Tim. He is going to see dave/tim
tomorrow night at Beacon Theater in NYC. I was just wondering if anyone
out there is taping? He'd be totally psyched if I got him a CDR or DAT
copy (he'd really go nuts for a cdr). If you have any interest in
gd/jgb, i have something that would make you happy. if not, i'd be
forever grateful for a blanks and postage. Also, if you have a sweet
dave/tim, dmb, or even ben harper (my friends other favorite), let me
know. DAT or cdr. Thanks for the bandwidth.
Blake
(robert.gilpin@yale.edu)
From: "Joe Ray Skrha" <joeray@ptialaska.net>
Subject: CSNY, for real??? I am so high... and alive !!!
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:49:56 -0900
Greetings Friends in the CSN&Y Community,
Ever since I heard from Croz several days ago that this was for real, I
have been so high...I mean high for a concert like I used to get 25 years
when I would hear Airplane's coming to town; or that Dylan is going to tour
with Baez again, or dare I say Crosby and Nash acoustically (will they bring
along Stephen???)...This is going to be a replay of a magical time folks...
and yes, we will all have a chance to experience it and relive the magic
all over again.
When CSNY, (also known as: "the law-firm"), came to Cleveland, Ohio in
69 and 70 and even 74, everything revolved around them and their show.
That was all anyone in my generation would talk about for weeks before and
after the tour stopped in Cleveland.. Today, after the news of the tour
was released, many folks are asking, will the boys still sound like they did
when they toured 25-30 years ago ??? Will it be old Martins guitars
supporting newly recorded songs togather with tweed Fender amps and
Steinway Grand Piano's ??? or will it be electric keyboards and a
orchestra section playing the same set of songs each night that made the
Top 40 during the past 30 years ??? That is the big question in everyones
mind. Are the boys really serious about this or are they feeling obliged to
do it for some other reason. Will their heart and soul be in it or will
they just be going through the motions?
This may be their last tour togather, forever....the last tour to put
the band "CSNY" back on the top shelf of rock and roll touring history.
Back in 1969 they did it for the ladies, 1970 for the music, 1974 for the
money and 1999 ??? It can only be for the pure joy and magic of it
all... They will have the best sound system and supporting musicians and
they will be in their best musical shape ever. Crosby sounds better now
than even his 1970 solo tour with Nash and he doesn't have the drugs to
distract him. Stephen hasn't been burning up the copywrite charts lately
but his guitar playing is as hot and alive as ever and he doesn't have the
booze to distract him. Neil took a year off and judging from his recent
performance with Phish, his enthusiasm is stronger now than ever. Finally,
Graham's one of a kind ability to sing that 3 and 4th part harmony has never
left him and his new songs are said to be some of his very best... Can the
boys still awaken the consciousness of the new millennium and is the
audience mature and innocient enough to listen? I want to believe so very
much they can...
And for all you "young buck" rusties worried you'll be bored listening
to 4 old men pretend they are still young, you better believe that no two
guitarists cook togather better than Neil and Stephen. They bring out the
best in each other and when they are both in shape (both emotionally and
musically) they make music second to none. Remember those guitar duals in
Down By The River, Carry On, Southern Man, Ohio and Wooden Ships??? How
about those great one of a kind 3 and 4 part harmonies on Hawaiian Sunrise,
Only Love Can Break Your Heart or On The Way Home ???
Folks, my dream for a genuine CSNY tour appears to be alive and on
track... I encourage you all to come along and let the dream come alive in
your hearts and minds also. This tour has the potential to consist of the
best from the past 30 years AND MORE... I encourage you all to come along
and hold on for the finest ride of your musical life. CSNY has always been
more than just music.The next 9 months should give us all a chance to
believe in the impossible, to relive the special moments of the past and
give us dreams that will last us the rest of our lives. Good luck boys,
and count me aboard for the tour...Do you need an extra attorney ??? How
about a backup guitarist? I know all the old songs by heart...and I won't
let Neil cut his own ham sandwiches... I love you all, from the Kenai
River, Alaska...
Joe Ray at: joeray@ptialaska.net
From: Chris Melia <tallboy736@earthlink.net>
Subject: D8 "problem"
Reply-To: tallboy736@earthlink.net
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 00:39:35 -0800
I had a quick question that I thought someone might be able to shed some
light on.
I've had a Sony D-8 for about 4 years now, and I've noticed that it's
not performing to the manufacturer's specifications. Namely, I'm able to
"trick" it into defeating SCMS with almost no effort. If I'm recording a
tape that has SCMS, I'll put the unit into REC/pause, then play a tape I
know to be SCMS free for a few seconds, then swap back to the original
tape and have no problems whatsoever.
I stumbled onto this quite by accident. Maybe this is the "oldest trick
in the book", or maybe I just got lucky with a "defective" unit. Basicly
I'm just curious if anybody else has had this kind of good luck.
Peace,
Chris
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From: Jonathan Haynes <biscuit@gol.com>
Subject: "Proprietary" modifications/low cost capsules/etc.
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 21:08:46 +0900
>While some of our mics start with the low cost Panasonic capsules, we
>put considerable amount of time into the modifications that give our CS
>Binaural mics more than 20 dB more dynamic range, much lower distortion,
>smoother frequency response and lower self-noise. They sound nothing
>like the stock capsules.
>You'd be surprised at how many excellent sounding mics from very
>well-known manufacturers start with low cost capsules. The cost of the
>capsule has little or nothing to do with the cost of the labor,
>materials and knowledge that ends up in the final product.
I have long been intrigued by this modification process. Without revealing
any rightfully guarded trade secrets, what are the nature of these
modifications? I understand that holes are drilled in the capsule to
modify the response. Why, if this is such a good idea, don't the
manufacturers do it in the first place? It seems like they may have done
some R and D, and may still be doing so, when making these capsules with
such ostensibly "excellent" capabilities. Speaking only for myself, I was
not a believer in CSBs at all, until I heard a few good shows--with really
reasonable sound recorded with these mics--(not HEB's, just the inexpensive
models). It's still good to be cautious--but properly placed, they've been
known to sound sweet.
But, I suppose a "better" mic in the same sweet spot might change my mind.
It's hard to tell.
What are the mods?
Jonathan
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