DAT-Heads Digest #764
Contents:
Does anyone tape Broadway Musicals? (Barista)
DATport and NT5 (Jesse Lackey)
New cdrs? ("" )
I'll be looking for the following (Bill Gardner)
was datport now Windows 2000 (Naiu@aol.com)
setlist link page ("Eric T. Nelson")
Digital Sound Cards, Which one?..UGHHH!!! (jpjpco)
nature recordings (Jeff Swick)
Re: Digital Sound Cards, Which one?..UGHHH!!! (Seth Breidbart)
Spiritualized / Pink Floyd (dave)
Reutelhuber box (Dan Clark)
ISO Sony 7pin>Optical cable for D7,D8, D3 (ChopCG@aol.com)
Down Sides of PCM-M1? ("Jackson Gibbs")
Extra DATS to trade. (jagjit chadha)
Re: DATPORT: No Go for NT5.0 Digest #761 (GuySonic@aol.com)
Re:Portable DAT Recorder Recommendation? Digest #760 (GuySonic@aol.com)
Re: MP3 Encoder Recommendation wanted! Digest #762 (GuySonic@aol.com)
Re: smart n friendly Digest #762 (GuySonic@aol.com)
Marley 7-7-75 ("Paul Gibian")
From: Barista <lamarzocco@earthlink.net>
Subject: Does anyone tape Broadway Musicals?
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 17:35:33 +0000
Subject says it all... anybody got tapes of Musicals? Phantom, LesMiz,
Miss Saigon, etc. etc.
Thanks
Glenn
From: Jesse Lackey <jesse@celestialaudio.com>
Subject: DATport and NT5
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 20:37:01 -0500
> A couple of hours ago I got off the phone with Opcode. I asked them
> whether or not they planned on supporting Datport for NT5.0. (As you are
> probably aware NT4.0 doesn't support USB but 5.0 does/will.)
>
> Unfortunately, Opcode says they have no plan whatsoever to support the
> Datport with NT. They kind of acted like NT was no big deal.
I find this very surprising, b/c I assume they are using the USB Audio Class
support that Win98 has. (and Win95 DOES NOT have). NT5 will support the
audio class, at least that was the claim from somebody at microsoft several
months ago. Thus, opcode has in theory no work to do to support NT5.
If they did write their own drivers, then they should be supporting Win95 as
well as Win98, since the driver would be the same for both.
> have a USB solution over a PCI solution just from the noise factor alone. It looks
> like it will take an outside party to write USB drivers to get the Datport running
> on NT5.0. Does anyone want to take the challenge? If I knew how to write drivers I'd
> give it a shot - I may even offer to pay someone to get Datport
> running on 5.0 if another product isn't developed soon..
I don't think you have any idea what a huge undertaking this is. The
hardware design is trivial compared to the driver development.
Jesse
---
Jesse Lackey / jesse@celestialaudio.com / http://www.celestialaudio.com
Owner, Celestial Audio, Ithaca, NY
From: <gboss>
Subject: New cdrs?
Reply-To: gboss@voicenet.com
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 21:42:50 -0500
I was ordering some blanks today and they (ccss inc.) told me that they
had brand new blanks in today which were silver/gold. I thought this was
a cool idea so i decided to give them a try. Has anyone ever used them
before? I'm hoping that they have the reflectivity of silver/blues and
the durability/stability of gold/gold discs. I'll let everyone know.
--
"And the knowledge that they fear
Is a weapon to be used against them..."
-N. Peart
http://www.voicenet.com/~gboss/
From: Bill Gardner <bgardner@ind.cioe.com>
Subject: I'll be looking for the following
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 22:04:32 -0500
Hi.
I'll be especially looking for the following DATS at the upcoming MWTA.
All are primarily of midwest shows.
Grateful Dead
Richfield '90 Have sbd of 9/8/90 set II but looking for the rest of run.
Deer Creek '91 Have the circulating sbds, looking for upgrade.
Deer Creek '92 Have Sennheiser auds but looking for upgrade.
Louisville '93. Have Neumann shotguns auds, looking for upgrade.
Deer Creek '94 whatever
Louisville '90
Phish
Bogarts, Cincinati 12/3/92
Deer Creek '95 Have Schoeps looking for possible upgrade.
Dave Matthews Band
Cincinati 8/20/95
My Dat list can be found at http://ind.cioe.com/~bgardner/digital.html
Thanks very much,
Bill Gardner
ps. or always up for fatty dead audience tapes.
From: Naiu@aol.com
Subject: was datport now Windows 2000
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 22:15:32 EST
Yes as you can see it is true. Since the delays in NT 5.0 where due to Novells
newest sever client microsoft decided to do something right and is combining
Consumer with Enterprise OS. So you should not have the problems noticed
before with dirvers with NT not being supported. Most of this is due to the
fact that microsoft spends way too much on operating systems that look alike
and function similarily with one being a bad bug and the other a true
multifaceted OS. This has been around as the rumor for about now 6 months. As
far asa I am concerned being an MCSE (Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer)
with NT it is only right since I dont think companies would have upgraded to a
new OS so soon after the introduction of NT 4.0 and the fact that Y2K is
around the corner. One thing at a time. But I think the OS is heading in the
right Direction and you shouldnt have a bit of a problem compatibility wise as
it will be full USB Supported, ohh Yess HOT swaps !!
Just a long winded explination So much bandwith so much Blabber ,
Stephen
From: "Eric T. Nelson" <tourcrew@javanet.com>
Subject: setlist link page
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 23:01:26 -0600
Hey Now!
I don't mean to be a lame-o, but a few weeks ago someone posted the URL
for a great page with setlist links to at least 50 or so bands. I
thought I bookmarked it, but apparently not. Could that person be so
kind as to post it again. Thanks much.
eric
From: jpjpco <jpjpco@megsinet.net>
Subject: Digital Sound Cards, Which one?..UGHHH!!!
Reply-to: jpjpco@megsinet.net
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 21:48:14 -0600
What are the 'top of the line' or industry standard digital sound cards
with digital and analog 'in and outputs' for Windows 95? Also are
there certain cards that are better at converting from 48 to 44.1?
Friends of mine are telling me that not only do you need a good SCSI
drive but also an external hard drive to make the system run smoother.
Is the extra external hard drive necessary? Thanks for your help
John
From: Jeff Swick <swick@the.link.ca>
Subject: nature recordings
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 22:14:25 -0700
i see a couple of potings of late re nature recordings;here is my
experiences.
Up at the lake in the summer;I used to get up around sunrise to take
video of deer.
As we are fortunate to be in the middle of fully treed lakefront we are
relativly free of"howlies"
about 1/2 before sunrise;I placed a sony ecm 999 a sony d7 and sony sbm1
next to a sony mz1 and sony ecm907.
the best advice i can give there is to set your levels by headphones and
meters and just walk away.
In listening back it was easy to visualise sunrise as there was a sudden
explosion of noice...birds,ducks etc.
I found that the hardest thing to do was record the sound of poplar
leaves with out it sounding like analogue tape hiss.
The other problem was the odd farmer fireing up the tractor....easier to
fix with the mini disc.
Another intresting expeirment was to place the 999 in a feild of clover.
The 999 being a stereo mic made for some intresting headphone listening
of bees;enought to make a person squirm.As well the 999 has terrific
bass response and made the bees sound very large indeed on my psb
stratus golds.
From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Digital Sound Cards, Which one?..UGHHH!!!
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:32:04 -0500 (EST)
> Friends of mine are telling me that not only do you need a good SCSI
> drive but also an external hard drive to make the system run smoother.
> Is the extra external hard drive necessary?
You certainly don't need an _external_ hard drive. A _second_ hard
drive, used only for audio, makes life easier (it's easy to keep it
defragged, for one thing).
Seth
From: dave <tapedelay@hotmail.com>
Subject: Spiritualized / Pink Floyd
Reply-To: tapedelay@hotmail.com
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 23:58:44 -0500
I'm looking to trade for some Spiritualized shows and am also on the
look out for Pink Floyd performances circa 1970 featuring the Atom Heart
Mother set. Email lists, lots to trade.
dave
From: Dan Clark <clarkda@NKU.EDU>
Subject: Reutelhuber box
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:10:09 -0500
If any old taper has one of these laying around and would like to off on
it, please contact me. It's a long shot but I thought I'd check.
--Dan
From: ChopCG@aol.com
Subject: ISO Sony 7pin>Optical cable for D7,D8, D3
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:27:07 EST
Hi,
I'm still looking for one of these cables. It seems they are on back order
from Sony. If anyone has one, new or used, that they want to part with,
please drop me a line.
Thanks,
Chris
ps--Gary Davis, you wrote me stating that you had one to sell, but then I
didn't hear from you again. Is it still for sale??
From: "Jackson Gibbs" <jackson@hosemart.com>
Subject: Down Sides of PCM-M1?
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:47:05 -0800
Hey all... I'm on the verge of getting back into DAT and want one of my
decks to be a portable. I'm currently looking to the PCM-M1 from Sony.
I formerly owned a D8 which I didn't have much trouble with. I've read all
the info on the spec sheets and whatnot...
What I'm wondering now is, for those who own or have owned the PCM-M1, what
are your great likes or dislikes of the deck, if any, and if you've owned
other models how do you think it compares?
Thanks,
Jackson Gibbs
From: jagjit chadha <jchadha@calpoly.edu>
Subject: Extra DATS to trade.
Reply-To: jchadha@calpoly.edu
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 23:30:40 -0700
I have the following extra to trade for blank DATS:
Phish:
10/18/91 GAMH, SF, CA S>CM>DAT, w/ 8/13/92 DSBD filler. 2X60 meter
10/29/94 Spartanburg, SC, S>CM>DAT, 1X90 meter
8/1/98 Alpine Valley, WI, Schoeps CMC641+MK41>Sonosax>SBM>P1, 1 X90
meter.
These are 2 60 meters(2hr) and 2 90 meter (3hr) DATS in total. I'd like
to get Maxell HS4's in exchange. Thanks!
Jagjit
From: GuySonic@aol.com
Subject: Re: DATPORT: No Go for NT5.0 Digest #761
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:33:58 EST
In a message dated 2/9/99 12:54:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, DAT-Heads-
Request@fedney.near.net writes:
<< ------------------------------
From: Alex Douglass <douglass@cyberramp.net>
Subject: DATPORT: No Go for NT5.0
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 19:35:01 -0600
( Edited) .......At a price of $159 and supporting varioius bitrates and
wordlengths, the Datport seems like a good solution....I just wish it had an
I2S (I squared S) interface and upcoming compatibility with 5.0..
Please post your comments.
Regards,
A. Douglass
>>
The advertised $159.95 price may not be what you'd have to pay as the (as
shipped) List price increased from $199 to $249 to cover actual manufacturing
cost increases of the additional circuitry needed in the DATport to be fully
functional and pro-solid in operation. Still worth the estimated $179-$249 if
USB port digital is your best or only (for laptop) option.
I haven't yet verified whether NT5 USB support is a non-issue with Opcode as
reported. If so, it would seem a shame for a pro audio device to be so
limited for using with a (hopefully) more stable pro WIN/NT5 OS.
Regards in Sound & Music Recording,
Leonard (& Debbie) Lombardo
========================================
Sonic Studios(tm)..."Making Audio History With DSM(tm) Microphones"
TEL: 541-459-8839 /\ FAX: 541-459-8842 /\ USA Free: 1-888-875-4976
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A better wish... "A bit of knowledge coupled to a great deal of wisdom"
From: GuySonic@aol.com
Subject: Re:Portable DAT Recorder Recommendation? Digest #760
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:33:56 EST
In a message dated 2/8/99 8:46:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, DAT-Heads-
Request@fedney.near.net writes:
<< ------------------------------
From: Gerry Morgan <gerrym@pobox.com>
Subject: Portable DAT Recorder Recommendation?
Date: Sun, 7 Feb 1999 15:24:06 -0700 (MST)
Hello,
I'm planning to buy a DAT recorder to record the sounds of the desert birds
and animals where I live (near Tucson, AZ). I currently have a Sony WM-D6C
analog cassette recorder and a Sony ECM-909 microphone, and the recordings
I've been making are kind of OK, but there's too much tape hiss for my
liking. So I'm wondering whether a Sony TCD-D100 would me a good machine to
upgrade to. I need something very portable, so that I can take it out hiking
with me. I'm also wondering whether the ECM-909 microphone is really good
enough. Can anyone offer any thoughts on the Sony TCD-D100, or alternative
portable DAT recorders.
Thanks,
Gerry
>>
The D100 or M1 is excellent for this purpose, but the stereo mics you've
chosen are not quiet or give a good stereo ambient 'feel' to be worth the
effort. Nature sounds recording is a very special application that requires a
very low noise 'ambient stereo' type microphone and there's just a few that
work well for this purpose and most are too expensive to amateur purposes.
Neumann RS-191 (about $4500) is reported excellent for being low noise, but
for a lot less, Sonic Studios DSM-1S/H + WHB windscreen ($675) will give much
more satisfactory ambient stereo imaging, but at just a bit more mic noise
than the Neuron. Using the LiteGUY ($500) mic baffle is an option for mic
stand mounting allowing you to get clear of being part of the microphone
system for long periods of time.
See these URLs on the site (also listed below) for more details on this system
and E-mail me for answering further questions doing nature recordings.
<A HREF="http://www.sonicstudios.com/dsm.htm">
http://www.sonicstudios.com/dsm.htm</A>
<A HREF="http://www.sonicstudios.com/access.htm">
http://www.sonicstudios.com/access.htm</A>
<A HREF="http://www.sonicstudios.com/liteguy.htm">
http://www.sonicstudios.com/liteguy.htm</A>
Regards in Sound & Music Recording,
Leonard (& Debbie) Lombardo
========================================
Sonic Studios(tm)..."Making Audio History With DSM(tm) Microphones"
TEL: 541-459-8839 /\ FAX: 541-459-8842 /\ USA Free: 1-888-875-4976
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Informative WEB SITE: HTTP:// <A HREF="http://www.sonicstudios.com">
WWW.SONICSTUDIOS.COM</A>
A better wish... "A bit of knowledge coupled to a great deal of wisdom"
From: GuySonic@aol.com
Subject: Re: MP3 Encoder Recommendation wanted! Digest #762
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:34:00 EST
In a message dated 2/9/99 6:56:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, DAT-Heads-
Request@fedney.near.net writes:
<< ------------------------------
From: Jonathan Haynes <biscuit@gol.com>
Subject: MP3 Encoder Recommendation wanted!
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 18:43:40 +0900
Hello,
Could a kind person please direct me to a good shareware, freeware, or
reasonably priced wav>mp3 encoder?
Thanks,
Jonathan
>>
My website uses and has the direct clickable link to the freeware Soloh
encoder site. <A HREF="http://www.sonicstudios.com/links.htm">
http://www.sonicstudios.com/links.htm</A>
The soloh encoder is very high quality and full featured, but is slow as
compared to some others that may or not be of equal quality, featured, or
free.
Also www.mp3.com or similar sites have links to decoders/encoders.
Regards in Sound & Music Recording,
Leonard (& Debbie) Lombardo
========================================
Sonic Studios(tm)..."Making Audio History With DSM(tm) Microphones"
TEL: 541-459-8839 /\ FAX: 541-459-8842 /\ USA Free: 1-888-875-4976
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Informative WEB SITE: HTTP:// <A HREF="http://www.sonicstudios.com">
WWW.SONICSTUDIOS.COM</A>
A better wish... "A bit of knowledge coupled to a great deal of wisdom"
From: GuySonic@aol.com
Subject: Re: smart n friendly Digest #762
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 02:34:02 EST
In a message dated 2/9/99 6:56:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, DAT-Heads-
Request@fedney.near.net writes:
<< ------------------------------
From: Jazdout@aol.com
Subject: smart n friendly
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 04:46:10 EST
Thanks to all who gave me advice on smart n friendly.
i ended up buying the SAF external scsi2 CD-4012.
Its a beutiful device or so the box says. It hasn't completely won me over
yet.
All these wierd things are happening in win98 now. Since i hooked the scsi
card and cd-r up i get messages during startup saying Windows Protection
Error
Restart.
I restart and everyhting is fine. I also found out the scsi cable SAF gave me
was bad. After replace ment though i'm still having start up problems.
(snip'd)
Pete
p.s sorry for the rant. i hope this helps any one looking into SAF or EZ CD
creator.
and to all the dats heads out thier. Keep using DATS thier much easier than
burning CDs.
-- >>
Disclaimer: Windows systems can be very 'fun' and even the following related
experience/suggestions may not apply at all to your current problems.
While I have the exact same 4012 S&F drive and also have problems, it's with
the Easy CD program that can't even find the CD-R drive most of the time. The
drive itself is about as good as it gets with CD-R. The most stable and
consistent CD-R software came bundled with my (2'd system) Traxdata CDR4120
drive and is the CeQuatrat (German software company) WinOnCD 3.5 OEM version.
This program really is day/night over any I've tried and has me a very
satisfied Guy using either the 4012 or 4120 drives with virtually no coasters
on a P200 (and PII Laptop) WIN95 converted to WIN98 systems that are anything
but solid acting.
Consider reinstalling some of the software/CD-R drivers (with all other
nonessential WIN programs shut down) and keeping any and all programs
(including Stay & Resident programs like virus, Norton, ... etc., maybe
including screen savers & auto schedule stuff) turned off when working on CD-R
burning. With the bundled CeQuatrat WinOnCD software the other system
activity considerations might be more a non-issue.
Regards in Sound & Music Recording,
Leonard (& Debbie) Lombardo
========================================
Sonic Studios(tm)..."Making Audio History With DSM(tm) Microphones"
TEL: 541-459-8839 /\ FAX: 541-459-8842 /\ USA Free: 1-888-875-4976
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Informative WEB SITE: HTTP:// <A HREF="http://www.sonicstudios.com">
WWW.SONICSTUDIOS.COM</A>
A better wish... "A bit of knowledge coupled to a great deal of wisdom"
From: "Paul Gibian" <morningdew@email.msn.com>
Subject: Marley 7-7-75
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 23:44:33 -0800
Can anyone out there tell me the set list for this 7-7-75 Bob Marley
Boarding House show? Some suggest that it is actually 7-18-75 Lyceum
Ballroom, London, England but I'm not convinced. Can anybody help?
Paul Gibian
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