DAT-Heads Digest #774

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Re: M1 or D8 for cloning? (Salvatore Sferrazza) Fwd: For Sale: Philips CDR880 (Roman Radzins) Re: Mic Info Needed (Erik Johnson) Get this BOOTLEGGING SHIT OFF DAT-HEADS (willard robinson) Sony R-500 Error Rate Display (John Schmidt) FT Australian shows by: catpower/trenbrothers/sparklehorse (Andrew) Re: Kodak Audio CD-R's and Philips recorders (Cassette House) NRPS Dats? ("Paul Tivnan") ISO: Frogwings - Toad's Place 2/12/99 (Dave Pecoraro) Taping At The 9:30 Club (Gear119348@aol.com) sony dtc-55es (ulrich kaetker) RE: Soundboard distortion in recording (Gordon Gidluck) RE: Soundboard distortion in recording (Gordon Gidluck) [no subject] ("dwayne dyck") Getting out of trading--60m and 90m blanks at reasonable price (Ron Cobb) iso frogwings (chris wallace) In need of service? (Jeff757844@aol.com) ISO Other Ones dsb's besides 7-01-98 (jflannery@excite.com)
From: Salvatore Sferrazza <salzie@akula.com> Subject: Re: M1 or D8 for cloning? Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 03:53:37 -0500 I recently purchased a PCM-M1 from Klay Anderson Audio for $650. Very pleased so far (all 3 days :) ). l8r, Sal salzie@akula.com (Teflon Septum) * RealAudio techno at http://www.akula.com/~salzie/teflonseptum * Happiness is a deaf landlord
From: recordroman@webtv.net (Roman Radzins) Subject: Fwd: For Sale: Philips CDR880 Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 07:32:46 -0500 (EST) --WebTV-Mail-2097515193-5 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit --WebTV-Mail-2097515193-5 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-103-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.104) by postoffice-152.iap.bryant.webtv.net; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:50:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <recordroman@webtv.net> Received: from mailtod-151.iap.bryant.webtv.net (mailtod-151.iap.bryant.webtv.net [209.240.198.215]) by mailsorter-103-1.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.gso.01Apr98) with ESMTP id UAA22524; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:50:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from production@localhost) by mailtod-151.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/mt.gso.26Feb98) id UAA22459; Fri, 12 Feb 1999 20:50:14 -0800 (PST) X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhR1gzYYcdjMJG5Z1Ms1UGgxBERJDAIVALjl7v91VGfR0HKiHjeXwzHraKK/ From: recordroman@webtv.net (Roman Radzins) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 23:50:14 -0500 (EST) To: recordroman@webtv.net Subject: For Sale: Philips CDR880 Message-ID: <20533-36C50486-2364@mailtod-151.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) I have a "trickable" 880 for sale. It was purchased just over a month and 17 discs ago. Complete packaging and blank warranty card intact. Price is $475.00 and includes one consumer and two "regular" discs of your choice (TDK or Kodak) to get you up and running. Please email if interested for additional info. All the best, Roman --WebTV-Mail-2097515193-5--
From: Erik Johnson <Erik@3dfx.com> Subject: Re: Mic Info Needed Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 05:34:39 -0800 Mike, Check out: www.soundfield.com. I know of two models: ST250 and SPS 422 (ST250 is for field recording). I've wanted one these rigs for a while... Erik Erik Johnson Software Product Manager 3Dfx Interactive, Inc.
From: willard robinson <willr@star.net> Subject: Get this BOOTLEGGING SHIT OFF DAT-HEADS Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:59:11 -0500 The hypocracy of this list is only matched by the stupidity of some of its members. This is not a 'report bootlegers list' - if someone wants to sell you music I could really give a crap - whining to the list is not what this forum is all about. If you don't want to buy his music just say NO - deriving sympathy/ self importance by obnoxious posts to this list only increase its noise and PISS ME OFF!!! The RIAA would shut this whole list down if they thought they could, and anyone who thinks they are friends or thinks it is ok to 'narc' others out should do so on their own twisted moral grounds and not the 'music is free'/ 'distract them from what we are doing' shit. If you feel so inclined KEEP IT OFF THIS LIST! If you think that bootlegging is morally wrong then I suggest you give me all your dats that were taped of bands who do not allow taping and stealth equipment. If you think that it is ok to stealth, but not bootleg then I guess we are dealing with an 'illegalitites' spectrum that is probably too far past your intellectual abilities to debate here (and again off topic). Fact is that bootleggers have always helped circulate music, and that is a FACT. So please - just keep it to yourself, this whole eBay topis is a joke too - "Hello FBI - I would like to report illegal Depeche Mode cds being sold on eBay", man, I thought that was a _joke_ and I now believe it was not, which just shows how stupid this list has become.... Can we get back to taping and trading now? Will
From: John Schmidt <jschmidt@mail.hotchkiss.pvt.k12.ct.us> Subject: Sony R-500 Error Rate Display Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 09:37:50 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Hey! What's up guys??? I just got my second R-500 now, and I need to know how I can access the error rate display. I know it has something to do with the remote, but I am not sure! E-mail me if you can help, John ====================== John Schmidt jschmidt@mail.hotchkiss.pvt.k12.ct.us E-mail me for my Digital Tape List!
From: Andrew <longroad@zip.com.au> Subject: FT Australian shows by: catpower/trenbrothers/sparklehorse Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 01:55:50 +1100 Have the following aud masters for TRADE only, further info available on request Samshing pumpkins 06.19.98 Entertainment Centre Blondie 01.03.99 Capital Theatre Sydney Australia Smith, Elliot 01.08.99 Annandale Hotel, Sydney Australia Smith, Elliot 01.09.99 Annandale Hotel, Sydney Australia CatPower 01.09.99 Harbourside Braserrie, Sydney Australia Hole 01.20.99 Enmore theatre Sydney Hole 01.21.99 Enmore theatre Sydney sparklehorse 01.22.99 Annandale Hotel, Sydney Australia sparklehorse 01.23.99 Big Day Out Festival, Sydney Australia Tren Brothers 02.12.99 Cat & Fiddle Hotel, Balmain Sydney Australia CatPower 02.12.99 Cat & Fiddle Hotel, Balmain Sydney Australia Tren Brothers 02.13.99 The Globe, Newtown Sydney Australia CatPower 02.13.99 The Globe, Newtown Sydney Australia and these FM/cable broadcast; Blondie 12.31.98 falls Festival, Victoria NYE special 15mins only - Include NYE countdown Ash 01.18.99 JJJ-Rooftop, Live at the Wireless FM buffalo tom 01.25.99 JJJ-FM Live at the Wireless Ash 01.23.99 Big Day Out festival. Olympic Park Sydney Marilyn Manson 01.23.99 Big Day Out festival. Olympic Park Sydney Korn 01.23.99 Big Day Out festival. Olympic Park Sydney manic Street Pr. 01.23.99 Big Day Out festival. Olympic Park Sydney Hole 01.23.99 Big Day Out festival. Olympic Park Sydney Looking for the following artists/shows in return: Shellac June of 44 Shipping News HOVERCRAFT Afghan Whigs Girls Against Boys PAW Three Fish (especially: 7.27.96 Great American Music San Francisco CA) Our lady Peace Pearl jam (especially: 10/13/90 rehersal tape) Andrew ==================================================== Got a few minutes to discover a great Australia band ==================================================== ======== s o m e t h i n g f o r k a t e ========= ==================================================== http://www.zip.com.au/~longroad/s4k ====================================================
From: Cassette House <artmunson@tape.com> Subject: Re: Kodak Audio CD-R's and Philips recorders Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 08:24:05 -0600 We have sold about 15,000 of these in the last month and a half and have not heard of a problem yet. >From: Michael Schuster <schuster@panix.com> >Subject: Kodak Audio CD-R's and Philips recorders >Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:02:20 -0500 (EST) > >Am seeing some problem reports with the new Kodak audio blanks and Philips >consumer audio decks: playback difficulties, noise, and the dreaded >aborted recording early into the disc with a "Full" disc that isn't. >Granted, Philips QC hasn't been great and some of these problems may be >hardware related, but do the good reports on these new blanks outnumber >the bad? > ************************************************************************** * Cassette House Blank DAT tape - CDR's - Cassettes * * Order 24 Hours A Day, 7 Days A Week! * * Voice:800-321-5738 * Fax: 800-848-5738 * Web Site: http://www.tape.com * * e-mail:art@tape.com Direct Line 615-952-4993 * **************************************************************************
From: "Paul Tivnan" <ptivnan@ziplink.net> Subject: NRPS Dats? Reply-To: "Paul Tivnan" <ptivnan@ziplink.net> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:21:32 -0500 hi all... Looking for DATs of the New Riders....w/Jerry ....and ...after w/Cage on steel..... "New" dat-head...so not much to trade yet!!...But have a few recent gems and a few other nice tapes.... thanks in advance..... : ) Pax... Paul Tivnan ptivnan@ziplink.net
From: Dave Pecoraro <dave_peck@snet.net> Subject: ISO: Frogwings - Toad's Place 2/12/99 Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:31:12 -0500 Well, after being told by the brilliant staff at Toad's Place that taping would not be allowed, I show up to find at least a dozen tapers. What a show! If anyone has a copy, I'd love to set something up. Lots to trade at the links below. Thanks! ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::. ::Dave Pecoraro <---> dave_peck@snet.net ::. ::ICQ: 18974698 <---> AOL: mkdevo :::. ::Dave's Digital ---> http://members.aol.com/mkdevo/index.htm :::' ::CD-R Cover Art ---> http://members.aol.com/mkdevo/covers.html::' ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::'
From: Gear119348@aol.com Subject: Taping At The 9:30 Club Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:36:42 EST Hi Everyone Anyone do any taping at the 9:30 Club here in Washington DC within the last year? Last time I was there, I witnessed several discrete stealthers (and some not so discrete) being hauled away throughout the evening. Maybe it depends on the artist that's playing, but this place seems very unfriendly. Terry MacD
From: ulrich kaetker <xiao@pacific.net.sg> Subject: sony dtc-55es Reply-To: xiao@pacific.net.sg Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 00:02:31 +0000 hi, i heard that the german audio magazine "stereoplay" published an instruction on how to neutralize the scms system of the sony dtc-55es back in 1992. is there anybody who can fax or e-mail me a copy of that article?
From: Gordon Gidluck <ggidluck@artelco.com> Subject: RE: Soundboard distortion in recording Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:22:43 -0800 > > From: "clnln@thecore.com" <clnln@thecore.com> > Subject: Soundboard distortion in recording > Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:22:52 -0500 > > Hello again, I have one more question. I recently recorded an > acoustic guitarist via his RCA analog outputs on his soundboard. > It wasn't a big fancy soundboard, by any means... it was more of > a portable mixer. There was a set of drums (not regular drums, > but some type that one plays with their hands), the guitar, and > his vocals miked. The levels peaked on my Sony M1 at about 1 dB. > I guess I got lucky that it didn't hit 0! I had the signal going > into the M1's analog input, at the Line In setting, with the > recording knob at about 6.5 or 7. > > My question is this. At anything above 4 dB or so, there is a > small amount of distortion in the sound. Why is this happening? > Is it just because of his mixer, which we actually had to hit to > get it to turn on before the show? Or did I do something wrong > recording it? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. > I have noticed that analog distortion is a lot harder to detect on loudspeakers than it is on headphones. We had this multitrack master that had a bad spot on it (yes, these multitrack machines get their bad tapes too). The engineer that did the mixdown did not hear the garbled sound in that spot. In mastering, I heard it on headphones. I tried to hear it on the speakers and it is marginally difficult to tell that it is really there. So my point is that there could have been some analog distortion that you couldn't hear at the venue, but it was actually there, and you picked it up on your DAT tape when you gave it a listen. Something was being overdriven in the mixer. I suspect that with the level setting you had, you did everything you could to make it turn out right. Gordon Gidluck Incidently when you say 1db or 4db, that is really -1dbfs and -4dbfs (decibal full-scale) to be precise. I know everyone knows what you mean. I saw in the SAMPLITUDE manual recently that 0dbfs is also referred to as "full code". FYI for you techie types out there.
From: Gordon Gidluck <ggidluck@artelco.com> Subject: RE: Soundboard distortion in recording Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:25:57 -0800 One more final thought. If you have access to a computer and can get your recording into it digitally. You can tell by zooming in and looking at the waveform whether it's analog distortion or a digital-over. Gordon Gidluck
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From: rcobb@channel1.com (Ron Cobb) Subject: Getting out of trading--60m and 90m blanks at reasonable price Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 11:58:39 -0500 I've decided to get out of active trading. Will still hold onto my current dats and a handful of blanks, but I have a small stash of blank and "one-pass" new dat tapes I'd like to pass on to someone. All were bought from Art Munson at Cassette House and are still packed just as they came from him. Would prefer to sell in "bricks" of 10 tapes. Most of what I have is 60m HP/Maxell one-pass, degaussed and shrink-wrapped, with some Ampex "new" 60m and a bit of unlabelled shell/Maxell tape new 90m. Please contact me if interested. Sorry for the FS content. thanks, ron rcobb@channel1.com
From: chris wallace <chriswallace@earthlink.net> Subject: iso frogwings Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 17:58:23 -0800 hey now, groveling for a buddy. anyone tape any of the recent wetland gigs. my list is at the url below. thx chris chriswallace@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~chriswallace/datlist.html
From: Jeff757844@aol.com Subject: In need of service? Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 12:15:48 EST I have my first problem with my M1. I'm going DAT-> cassette, and am at the end of the show. I know when the tape get to the end on the M1, it stops and rrewinds, so i let it go for a while, about 30 min after the end of the show. When I go up to check it, unload is flashing, and i can't get the tape out. i remove the power, put it back in, try again. no luck. finaly, i open it up by prying the lid off, without any damage to the deck. I get the tape out, a DGP90, being careful removing it from around the transports. I know the tapes gone, but i check the deck for any malfunction. I play and the sound is heavily distorted. I can make out the sound, but there is a very washy sound. I run the cleaning tape, with no luck. Any help or comments on how to fix it, or do i need to find my nearest Sony service center? (It's still under the 90 day warranty) Thanks, Jeff Dawson Jeff757844@aol.com
From: jflannery@excite.com Subject: ISO Other Ones dsb's besides 7-01-98 Date: Sat, 13 Feb 1999 10:24:55 PST I have heard through a source that other OO shows exist in the form of board patches. Is this true? Did the band let some go after their cd came out? If you have any info on this-get in touch. I would like to think I have something for you in trade. Thanks for the space and peace, John Flannery http://www.tapetrading.com/lists/j/f/jflannery@excite.com.html _______________________________________________________ Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/
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