DAT-Heads Digest #782
Contents:
The Greyboy Allstars Alive and Well!!!! ("Erik Newson")
ISO: Acoustic Junction trades, others ("Sean McNamara")
RE:Tasty Colvin, Airplane Headphones & DAT (PCM) Transfer (Barista)
Dave and Tim at Duke ("THughes")
Re: 24/96 ("John R. Vanderpool")
Has anyone ever stuck a sound level meter on stage? (pkmin@rsc.rockwell.com)
Black Crowes tapers... (dan clark)
ISO: Nick Drake (OnTrane@aol.com)
Re: datport ("David D. Rogers")
Neumanns sold (Jeff Bowen)
labeled vs. unlabeled ("Brian Fulton")
sample rate ("Daniel Kantor")
SCMS stripper? (Jeff Yurek)
Xtra DMB 12/30/94 (scott frederick t)
queens of the stone age (Steve George)
X/Y question (Dan Clark)
Re: X/Y question (Seth Breidbart)
Dallas tapers alert! ("Charles D. Boozer")
digital cables (Eugene Hu)
Taping Laws in PA (Jerichoholic)
Wally Skinner? (Darrin Muggli)
ISO: advice on DAT decks (cheap ones!) ("Brian Kelley")
From: "Erik Newson" <enewson@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: The Greyboy Allstars Alive and Well!!!!
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:15:47 -0700
Just wanted to dispel a few nasty rumors-
1. The Greyboy Allstars have not broken up!!!!!!!
(Spring tour info is listed below)
2. The Greyboy Allstars have not broken up!!!!!!!
( The new album is available now)
3. The Greyboy Allstars have not broken up!!!!!!!
( Summer festival info to be announced soon)
THE GREYBOY ALLSTARS SPRING TOUR
March 19 Boulder CO @ Fox Theater
March 20 Boulder CO @ Fox Theater
March 21 Boulder CO @ Fox Theater ( All Ages)
Tickets for these shows are available now by calling SCI Gear at
1-800-437-9382.
March 26 Santa Cruz CA @ TBA
March 27 San Francisco CA @ TBA
March 28 San Francisco CA @ TBA
The new record- THE GREYBOY ALLSTARS-LIVE is available now by calling SCI
Gear at 1-800-437-9382.
PLEASE SPREAD THE NEWS!!!!!!!!!
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Visit the new official website of The Greyboy Allstars at:
http://www.greyboyallstars.com
GBA Merchandise and cd's available now by calling 1-800-437-9382.
From: "Sean McNamara" <mcnamara@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: ISO: Acoustic Junction trades, others
Reply-To: <mcnamara@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:38:46 -0500
I have a crisp sbd of Acoustic Junction at the Rosebud Cafe, Pittsburgh from
1/16 this year. Excellent semi-acoustic show, but cut a little short by the
venue's management due to lack of advanced sales (runs about 90 min). I
guess here's another reason to buy tix in advance.
Looking to trade for other AJ shows, especially from this past tour.
Also always interested in SCI, Hornsby, dead, Keller Williams, etc. I would
also like to add a few Phish shows to my collection (i only have 8/3/97) if
someone could help me out. Thanks.
Sean McNamara
From: Barista <lamarzocco@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE:Tasty Colvin, Airplane Headphones & DAT (PCM) Transfer
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:59:40 +0000
> From: Jerry Zigmont <zigmont@mindspring.com>
> Subject: Tasty Colvin, Airplane Headphones & DAT (PCM) Transfer
> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:25:29 -0500
>
> Three requests my Dat friends,
>
> 2) Any recommendations on compact headphones which would block out the
> ambient noise on an airplane? Does such an animal exist? Cost?
I use the Etymotic ER4S canal phones, they reduce the ambient noise by
20db. I use it along my Headroom Cosmic Headphone Amp. Check out
www.headphone.com for more info. The canal phones are $300, the
amplifiers range from $179-$1000+. When on the airplane, it
eliminates engine noise, rowdy kids, crying babies, even the damn
intercom... If you are using it with a sony portable, you'll probably
need an amp to drive the eytmotics. D8 can drive them adequately, the
M1/D100 does not get loud enough for my tastes.
From: "THughes" <thughes@pitnet.net>
Subject: Dave and Tim at Duke
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:46:59 -0600
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From: fish@daacdev1.gsfc.nasa.gov ("John R. Vanderpool")
Subject: Re: 24/96
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:01:37 -0500 (EST)
>From: "Daniel Kantor" <dkantor@umich.edu>
>Subject: 24/96
>Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 04:38:07 -0500
>Are CD burners that are out now capable of burning a CD at 24bit 96khz? >I am under the impression that it is the software that tells the CDR >what to write. Is this true? My idea was to write a CD at 24/96 and >when the SACD players come out, they would read at this.
Yes (sorta), no, and no. :) CD burners can write any data file, including a
...
do DVD players have digital out (i guess sorta like CD players, some
they do, some they don't)?
but the real question is if DVD does have digital out then how would
you record the 96k onto a DDS1-based DAT? is there some way to throttle
it down to 44 or 48?
(aside: quite amazing that the audio industry never picked up on DDS2
specs - looks like they never will - even with DDS3 on the streets now
and DDS4 even looming close - DAT audio seems locked into DDS1 forever)
fish
--
"it's so easy to slip, it's so easy to fall,
and let your memory drift and do nothing at all..." -lowell george
John R. Vanderpool <fish@daacdev1.gsfc.nasa.gov> NASA/GSFC/RSTX
From: pkmin@rsc.rockwell.com
Subject: Has anyone ever stuck a sound level meter on stage?
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:13:45 -0800
A recent comment on mixing X/Y cardioid mics from the front center of the stage
(pointing "into the band")with a pair of spread omnis towards the sides of the
stage got my attention. I've been running spread omnis on stage for a while now
with pretty good results but I think I could get better - perhaps by doing the
above(and placing the X/Y (or "ORTFish") cardioids close to the vocal monitors
to pick up extra vocals, etc). Since I already own the Oktava MC012 set which
has cardioid, omni, hypercardioid capsules, and screw in -10dB pad, all I would
need to buy is another pair of mic bodies to do the above(have mixer). I'm
wondering if I should buy another set of -10dB screw in pads in addition. With
the spread omnis on stage, I've run those with and without the pads and have
never actually heard any distortion, even without using the pads. The oktavas
without the pads are capable of handling 138dB SPL (so with pads, capable of
148dB SPL). It would be helpful to know what the actual SPL's are on stage. Of
course it varies by the band, etc but lets just say "a local jam band playing
clubs of about 300 people or so(perhaps like a moe. type gig 3 years ago or
something like that). While I doubt 138dB SPL is reached too often, I don't
know for sure. So does anyone have an idea of what the SPLs are on stage for a
situation like this? Of course it depends highly on position but "in general" -
the mics are never shoved directly in front of a guitar amp, drums, bass amp
etc. For that matter I'm curious what the SPL's are in other situations
too(like a phish tapers section, etc), so if you've ever measured either could
you comment?
Thanks, Pete
From: dan clark <clarkda@one.net>
Subject: Black Crowes tapers...
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:17:14 -0500 (EST)
Al right, I'm desperate -- any BC tapers/fans out there that are going to
Columbus or Cincinnati that have better seats than me? My tix for Columbus
are close but off to the right. For Cincinnati, they're in the balcony.
Ugh! My question is this: Does anyone want to run a super-nice rig from
their seat in order to make a KICKASS tape of the Crowes? From the
reports I've heard so far, there hasn't been much hassle getting your gear
in. Please e-mail me if you can help, want to know particulars on the
rig, etc. Thanks!
--Dan
P.S. I am sorry to have expended such limited resources by even thinking
of posting about a bootlegger in our company. To those who don't like it,
I have an idea. Surely you're interested in spreading some of your
masters around...you're not a hoarder, are you? Well, have I got an
answer for you! Just give ol' buddy a call and he'll start pressing some
of your hard work on to CD!
From: OnTrane@aol.com
Subject: ISO: Nick Drake
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 17:24:54 EST
If anyone has any tapes of Nick Drake, the English folk-rocker dude from
awhile back, please send me an email!
Peace,
Rob
From: "David D. Rogers" <drogers@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: datport
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:53:06 -0800
>From: "Daniel Kantor" <dkantor@umich.edu>
>Subject: datport
>Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 03:35:26 -0500
[snip]
>It was a sketchy coaxial cable problem. It now works great. As far as the
>D7 S/PDIF being not perfect, as far as I know it has worked pefectly. Also,
>I am using the Oades Active Cable and it was the non 7 pin part that was the
>problem.
FWIW, I'd love to hear how the D7/D8 and D100/M1 work with the DATport
without something like the Oades Active Cable (like the Oade DIGI I/O-P,
Core Sound cables or the Sony cables that don't adjust the output voltage).
My guess is that if it accepts the D100/M1's "native" voltage, it will
accept the D7/D8's, too.
Peace,
From: Jeff Bowen <jbowen@slonet.org>
Subject: Neumanns sold
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:02:10 -0800 (PST)
Hello all and thanks for all the responses.
The Neumann KM-184's are sold
Jeff
From: "Brian Fulton" <seniorpaul@hotmail.com>
Subject: labeled vs. unlabeled
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 15:03:10 PST
I was under the impression that labeled and unlabeled Maxell HS/4 DAT's
were exactly the same(except for the packaging). Why then do some
traders dislike the unlabeled? I have both and was just wondering.
thanks
Brian
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From: "Daniel Kantor" <dkantor@umich.edu>
Subject: sample rate
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 18:56:27 -0500
I have been converting my files from 48 to 44.1 using Cool Edit 96. I
cannot hear any difference between the before and after. I just realized
that there is an option on what quality you should convert it at. It has
been set to 150. Should I change this?
Also do most people amplify the sound a little before burning it to CD? I
tried amplifying it 3db higher and it sounded good. Is this bad to do?
thanks,
Dan
From: Jeff Yurek <jjyur@conncoll.edu>
Subject: SCMS stripper?
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:36:45 -0500
does anybody know where i can find such a device (one which will set
SCMS = to 0)? are there any brands/types that are especially good (or
bad)? does anybody have any old ones they want to get rid of? a friend
is looking for one to put in the signal between his CD player w/digital
output and standalone burner as he has a number of discs with SCMS and
would really like to make some copies...
thanks a lot for your help
jeff
From: scott frederick t <fscott@hubcap.clemson.edu>
Subject: Xtra DMB 12/30/94
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:56:39 -0500 (EST)
I have an extra copy of this show on a lablled Maxell 90mtr. The source
is DSBD and I would like to trade for CDR. Anyone interested please get
in touch. Thanks for the bandwidth...
"You came along with a raft and a song
And I'm so glad you could make it..."
DAT List- http://www.tapetrading.com/lists/f/s/fscott@clemson.edu.html
Eric Scott
fscott@CLEMSON.EDU
From: Steve George <sgeorge@nac.net>
Subject: queens of the stone age
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:46:50 -0500
have a nice tape of queens recently live on canadian radio....send your
list if interested...
From: Dan Clark <clarkda@NKU.EDU>
Subject: X/Y question
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:17:48 -0500
When running X/Y, is there supposed to be a tiny gap or should one cap
actually "lay" on the other? I've heard that phase shift during X/Y occurs
where there is any distance but I've seen illustrations in books and
literature that looks as if there is a tiny distance (1/8"-1/16"). I've
done both and not been able tell a difference. Just curious as to the
technically correct answer
Thanks,
Dan
From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: X/Y question
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:28:09 -0500 (EST)
> When running X/Y, is there supposed to be a tiny gap or should one cap
> actually "lay" on the other? I've heard that phase shift during X/Y occurs
> where there is any distance but I've seen illustrations in books and
> literature that looks as if there is a tiny distance (1/8"-1/16").
Ideally, the capsules should be colocated. Physics says that's
impossible (two objects can't occupy the same space at the same time),
but they should be as close as possible. Touching is bad, because the
mics will make noise as they bang and rub against each other.
The phase shift from 1/8" up (when the music is coming from a
horizontal plane) is negligible.
Seth
From: "Charles D. Boozer" <cboozer@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Dallas tapers alert!
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:34:15 -0600
Greg Osby, Stefon Harris (late of CH & # for #), Jason Moran, and
Mark Shim are appearing at The Gypsy Tea Room on 3/9 (a Tuesday) as
part of Blue Note Records' "New Directions" tour (the "new" direction
must be southwest considering how many jazz artists come to Dallas).
I'm out of town that week on business, ain't that a b**ch ? What do I
have to do to get some local DAT-head to tape this for me? Help a
jazz-starved (locally) dat-head out. Will provide tickets, blanks,
etc.
Charles (moved here from N.Y. city, so you know why I suffer)
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From: Eugene Hu <eugene@superpeter.west.enterworks.com>
Subject: digital cables
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:01:55 -0800 (PST)
>What I meant here is that for short (i.e., 3') runs, a Radio Shack $5 video
>cable sounds pretty much the same as a $50 Monster (or similar) "digital"
>cable.
I've always had a problem with both video cables (Radio Shack and otherwise)
as well as Monster 75 ohm digital cables; their RCA connectors are so tight
on my decks (Panasonic SV-3700 and Sony PCM-2700A) that it doesn't seem
possible to plug them in without damaging something, not that I've tried
pushing hard enough to get them to seat since the back panel is seriously
warped long before that. Only the digital cables that came with my SV-3700
and the Canare 75 ohm RCA connectors seem to push on with a reasonable
force. These days I exclusively use the Canare connectors (with the appropriate
Canare cable, I forget the number) since they grip well without requiring
excessive force, are very well made, and are the only setup that hasn't caused
an occasional loss of digital sync when recording on my CDR-620. Only problem
is that you need a special crimping tool.
Anyone else have a problem with connectors that are too tight, or do I just
have a pair of mutant machines?
-Eugene
From: Jerichoholic <eric@ptdprolog.net>
Subject: Taping Laws in PA
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 22:03:53 -0500
Hi, it's been a while since I taped a concert, but I've
had my D8 for 4 years and barely used it. I have almost
front row seats to Black Sabbath on Feb 18 in Philadelphia
so I figured I'd record it.
I've recorded several times at the Spectrum before with much
luck. But since it's been a while I'm a little weary about
getting caught (sorry I'm very paranoid) and I'd like to
know the exact laws (did they get any stricter?), in case
for some reason I do get snagged. What I'm really worried
about is losing my equipment. Is it true in some states
you can? If for some reason I was snagged and they tried
take my equipment what would I say? I would offer to leave
and give them my tape but what if they are pricks and think
they could take my equipment? Is there any laws protecting
my equipment? If they did try to take it, what would be the
intelligent thing to say (referring the law)?
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
-Eric
From: Darrin Muggli <muggli@rastro.colorado.edu>
Subject: Wally Skinner?
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 21:08:08 -0700
Does anyone know how to get a hold of Wally Skinner? I sent him
2 Pink Floyd DATs SEVERAL months ago and I haven't heard from him
since. If anyone could help me out, I'd appreciate it!
Darrin
From: "Brian Kelley" <isgraphix@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO: advice on DAT decks (cheap ones!)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 20:12:57 PST
I was looking into spending some money on a DAT deck, but I don't want
to get TOO far up in price range.
I was looking at either a Sony R-300 or a Tascam DA-20 mkII. They are
both great decks I hear for under $700. Now I know both these decks
only have RCA and coaxial i/o. It's only when you get up into the $1000
range, like with the R-500 or SV-3800 I guess, that you get XLRs.
The way I see it, I'm only going to be using a home deck for its "true
intent" purpose -- for home. I wouldn't be lugging that deck around
everywhere to patch into a soundboard at any given show (since it would
be easier to have XLR i/o. I have a Sony M-1 portable already, so I'm
fine in the live taping department. I just want something that is
cheap, but not in quality and can make crispy sounding tapes with good
error correction.
Basically I would like some input or opinions on the R-300 or DA-20 mk
II. Sure I would be losing other great capabilities like auto
head-cleaning and super bitmapping, but I am so desparate to get a DAT
home deck, it's driving me nuts!!!!!
So any opinions on the aforementioned decks would be appreciated.
Thanks for your time.
Patrick
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