DAT-Heads Digest #788
Contents:
ISO: Neil Young ("Larson, Erik W. - COB")
differences between Sonosax and Beyer? (Jeff Bowen)
RE:Sony DAT DTC-ZA5ES ("Frank Goodrick")
Phish Newbie/Unidecker Offer ("Paul Jones")
R: DAT-Heads Digest #786 ("Alfredo")
Non-subscriber submissions - WHY? ("Drew Harrington")
Iris DeMent taping (Mark Mayhle)
Looking for a used preamp ? (Steve4134@aol.com)
FileMaker Pro template for UAL DAT labels? (Bob)
Herbie Hancock taping policy? ("Terry Stewart")
DATPort is shipping... ("Craig Hoffman")
Geez, I hate to suggest this, but... (Matt Agnew)
Re: Digital Audio Cards & DAT Downloads (Paul Lucente)
Re: Sony DAT DTC-ZA5ES ("Brian Krahmer")
East Coast Tapers Needed! (Edward B McGrath)
Lenola taper from Chicago- Where are you? (Edward B McGrath)
cd duplicaters (les gordon)
SXSW ("Larry Slavens")
re: DAT's and CD's topics ("Adam C.")
DVD-Audio, JMP + Fishman, List noise, Phish, etc. ("Michael Beck")
No DAT Content: Microphone Bar ?? (NaiuTaper@aol.com)
From: "Larson, Erik W. - COB" <Larson@bus.orst.edu>
Subject: ISO: Neil Young
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:43:46 -0800
I just got a second DAT recorder for my birthday so I'm anxious to expand my
Neil Young library (over 100 shows) as well as Replacements, Van, Sarah, and
others. Check my list out at:
Erik
http://www.bus.orst.edu/Faculty/Larson/Music/List.htm
From: Jeff Bowen <jbowen@slonet.org>
Subject: differences between Sonosax and Beyer?
Reply-To: Jeff Bowen <jbowen@slonet.org>
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:46:03 -0800 (PST)
Greetings all.Maybe someone can answer a question for me.
I'm still researching mic preamps to go with a set of Neumann KM-140's.
Marc Nutter has been telling me that the Beyer and the Sonosax have
'virtually' the same internal electronics except for differences in the
gain switching and outputs. He says the sound of the two units is the
same.
Is this really true?
If it Is I can't see spending twice as much for the Sonosax without
getting an increase in sound quality.
Anyone use both of them side by side? Any conclusions??
btw, Marc was pushing the Lunatec over the other two preamps...
Thanks for the bandwidth.
Jeff
From: "Frank Goodrick" <video.image@ibm.net>
Subject: RE:Sony DAT DTC-ZA5ES
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:04:50 -0500
David, I have 2 of them; but I use them for playback only; using them to
record intros SCMS.
Otherwise, they seem fine.
They do get hot, which causes diginoise after awhile, esp. on a 90m, but
just aim a small fan at the back of the unit to take care of that.
Frank.
From: "David A. Wanamaker" <wanamaker@home.com>
Subject: Sony DAT DTC-ZA5ES
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 1999 19:10:00 -0500
Anyone have any opinions on the subject item? I have chance to get a good
bargain on it, but I haven't heard much about the unit. Is it a good DAT
player for cloning from a D8/M1??
Thanks for your input,
David
From: "Paul Jones" <pauljones94@hotmail.com>
Subject: Phish Newbie/Unidecker Offer
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 12:41:24 PST
The Oade's are gonna wince, but...
I have recently decided to make the move to 90s and as a result I have
transferred a bunch of stuff from 60s to 90s. What I have then right
now is 30 60m tapes divided up into 3 blocks of 10 each to offer up to
1,2,or even 3 people. All of these tapes are on labeled Maxell HS-4
60m.
What I am looking for is this...The best available deal right now on the
HS-4s is from American digital <www.american-digital.com> with 60s being
$3.69 and 90s being $3.79. For each block of my 10 60s I would like 10
brand new Maxell HS-4 90m tapes and I will make up the $1 difference to
you. What I'd like you to do is have you call and have the blanks sent
directly to me and then I will send these tapes out to you as soon as I
get the blanks.
When emailing me please let me know which block of tapes you are
interested in. Preference goes to anyone wanting more than one block,
otherwise it is first come first served. Many of these tapes are on
sources that are not super-circulated, so try to pass them around a
little...
Thanks.
-Paul
Block #1:
7/25/91 I,II FOB DAUD
2/10/93 I,II FOB AKG 460/ck63 > AKG M18 > Teac DAP-20
4/17/93 II Neumann RMS 191i > Neumann PS > Panasonic sv255
6/18/94 II SBD > MCass > DAT (uncut Tweezer)
6/23/94 II SBD > MCass > DAT (end of Tweezer patched in w/AKG 460)
10/31/96 all Schoeps CMC 6 + MK 41 > Sonosax SX-M2 > DA-P1
12/13/97 II Schoeps CMC 6 + MK 4 > EAA PSP-2 > DA-P1
Block #2:
8/3/91 all DSBD
3/14/93 II SBD > MCass > DAT
3/5/93 II Sonic Studios DSM 6 > Sony D3 > EQ > Sony D7
10/31/94 all FOB Schoeps CMC 3 + MK 41 > DAT
12/6/96 all Schoeps CMC 6 + MK 21 > Oade > SBM-1 > DA-P1
Block #3:
10/30/90 all SBD > Multi-Track MCass > DAT
11/21/92 all FOB AKG 460 + ck61 > Teac DAP-20
4/10/93 II SBD > MCass > DAT
5/4/94 II FOB AKG 460
7/8/94 I FOB AKG 460
12/31/95 all FOB Schoeps MK 4 > Sonosax SX-M2 > Sony D10
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From: "Alfredo" <md2001@mclink.it>
Subject: R: DAT-Heads Digest #786
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:12:33 +0200
hambone@javanet.comDate: wrote:
(...)
wonder if it would be possibleto keep this a dat digest
lately most posts are computer and cd related
(snip)
the extended time format compared to the74 min cd limit
granted cds are more user friendlybut it seems that over time more people
will
start selling cds because they'll get intomore hands with better quality
rather than keeping it within taper circles (snip)
I am compltely agree w/this post
Well done!
Alfredo
From: "Drew Harrington" <drewh@bitwise.com>
Subject: Non-subscriber submissions - WHY?
Reply-To: <drewh@bitwise.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:03:26 -0800
I've seen people ask why the list allows submissions from non-subscribers. I
don't think I've seen an answer. Making that limitation would eliminate all
this SPAM mail stuff.
Comments? Pro? Con?
Drew
From: Mark Mayhle <mmayhle@crl.com>
Subject: Iris DeMent taping
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:36:35 -0800 (PST)
>>From: Sam <levinson@iastate.edu>
>>Subject: Iris Dement taping policy, B&P offer, F/S mics
>>Has anyone on the list had experience taping Iris D.? Just want to know
>>if she persecutes taper people when she finds them. The show is Friday
>>night!
I can't tell you anything about her policy (except the promoter requested
from the stage no photos during the first 3 songs and no audio
recording), but I did tape her last Sunday 2/14 at her hometown show here
in Kansas City with CSBs clipped to my glasses, from 2nd row orchestra,
dead center. "Security" at the venue in question (Folly Theater) looked
like refugees from a Lawrence Welk studio audience so it wasn't really a
problem.
Open to trades for other alt.country, etc.
--
Mark Mayhle
mmayhle@crl.com (preferred address)
mmayhle@netcom.com (please use only if mail to crl.com bounces)
From: Steve4134@aol.com
Subject: Looking for a used preamp ?
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 16:41:38 EST
hi, im looking for a used preamp curently im looking at 4 models
sonosax sm-x2
lunatec v-2
beyer dynamic mv-100
oade m 148
if anyone is intereested in selling please e-mail me at steve4134@aol.com ,
ohh also i have a master from 2-5-99 dave and tim at the oakdale , mic info
schoeps cmc6 mk4s to lunatec v-2 to dap-1 to my d-8 , 8th row , umm only 99
dave and tim trades please
steve
From: Bob <rpm@halcyon.com>
Subject: FileMaker Pro template for UAL DAT labels?
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 13:57:15 -0800 (PST)
Looking for a template with a layout that fits the UAL DAT labels.
Bob
From: "Terry Stewart" <tastewart@email.msn.com>
Subject: Herbie Hancock taping policy?
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:47:09 -0500
Anyone know if the HH Quartet allows taping?
From: "Craig Hoffman" <Craig.Hoffman@disney.com>
Subject: DATPort is shipping...
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:51:38 -0800
Received this today from Opcode. I thought it was already out, but perhaps
this means it is more widely available at retailers.
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From: magnew@together.net (Matt Agnew)
Subject: Geez, I hate to suggest this, but...
Reply-To: magnew@together.net
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:07:15 GMT
While I'm all for the open forum thing, this spam is getting out of hand.
It's clearly evident that the Dat-Heads e-mail is circulating widely amongst
the spammer circle. Short of changing the address for submissions, there's
not much we can do here - it's gonna keep coming. Is there a way we can set
this list up to accept mail only from registered users? I'm not suggesting
setting any kind of membership requirements, just that one register with a
valid address and list all addresses they may post from. The listserver
would bounce all others. No spammer is going to jump through these hoops,
and once each of us does the registration, the process becomes invisible -
no outside intervention would be necessary.
What I know about servers and lists wouldn't fill an 1/8" jack - is this
feasible? Would it put too much of a load on the server? Is anyone against
this on principle?
Of course, during the registration process we will make it clear that one is
to turn off HTML when posting :)
discuss...
Matt
Check out my DAT newbie page:
http://homepages.together.net/~magnew/dattips.htm
From: Paul Lucente <plucente@blast.net>
Subject: Re: Digital Audio Cards & DAT Downloads
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:42:30 -0500
At 02:15 PM 2/18/99 EST, Tim wrote:
>hardware-based resampling on the fly. Without an analog input, I would
>probably dub the analog tapes to DAT using a 44.1 KHz sampling rate, and
>then go from DAT to the computer. I was all set to purchase the ZA-2 until
>
>Has anyone else faced this decision? If so, what did you decide to do and
>what were the key factors behind your decision?
Tim, I use the ZA2 and have been extremely happy with it. I have done quite
a bit of resampling on the fly, and its worked very well, if there are
problems with its capability in that area, I have yet to hear even the
slightest hint of it.
Also, don't worry about the lack of analog inputs, when I run an analog tape
to my hard disk for CDR burning, I don't bother recording a DAT copy first,
I simply put a blank tape in my Tascam DA20, put it in pause record mode,
connect my analog tape deck to the Tascam's RCA inputs, and use it as a
pass-through. The DA20 goes into pause record mode (i.e. the heads are
disengaged, but the deck is still passing audio), but if your deck doesn't
do this, you can still record a DAT simultaneous as you record to hard disk,
but just do it all in ONE step.
Paul
From: "Brian Krahmer" <brian@krahmer.com>
Subject: Re: Sony DAT DTC-ZA5ES
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:53:15 -0700
>> Anyone have any opinions on the subject item? I have chance to get a
good
>> bargain on it, but I haven't heard much about the unit. Is it a good DAT
>> player for cloning from a D8/M1??
> I bought mine about 1 year ago. It replaced my DTC 59 ES. I like its A/D
> converter (that's the main reason why I bought it). The mechanics seem to
> be better than that of the old decks. Thin tapes (90 meters = 180 minutes)
> are recognized and handled properly.
> * automatic cleaning
I have a ZA5, and it is a pile of crap. I paid $1200 for it when I first
started getting into taping. The only good thing about it is the 5-year
warranty. And I don't know if it's transferable. Well, the A/D is pretty
good, as Norbert said, but that's about it. According to what I've heard,
it has the same transport as the 2600. I've had to have mine repaired twice
already for the transport motors.
If you want a solid deck, get a Tascam DA-20mkII. Half the price (give or
take), likes 90m tapes much better, NICE transport, easy to get-at error
counters, stop and skip ids, and it's not a sony. You can also disable
scms. Cons? No optical inputs.
Good luck.
brian
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From: Edward B McGrath <sac19854@saclink.csus.edu>
Subject: East Coast Tapers Needed!
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:09:38 -0700 (PDT)
These are the tour dates for an incredible band called The Olivia Tremor
Control who is playing with the equally good Elf Power. Please Tape
these shows. I 'd be willing to compensate those who tape them for me.
Thank you- Barin
Mar
24 - Chattanooga - Lamar's (w Derek Bailey)
25 - Louisville - Mercury Paw %
26 - Chicago - Lounge Ax #%
27 - Minneapolis - 400 Bar #%
29 - Columbus - Ohio State University %
30 - Detroit - Magic Stick %
31 - Toronto - Horseshoe %
April
1 - Northhampton, MA - Pearl Street
2 - Boston - Middle East #%
3 - NYC - Bowery Ballroom #%
4 - Hoboken - Maxwell's %
6 - Philadelphia - Upstairs at Nick's
7 - Wash DC - Black Cat %
8 - Chapel Hill - Cat's Cradle %
9 - Harrisonburg, VA - Main Street Cafe %
10 - Columbia, SC - New Brookland %
From: Edward B McGrath <sac19854@saclink.csus.edu>
Subject: Lenola taper from Chicago- Where are you?
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:11:16 -0700 (PDT)
Hi I am looking for someone who has recorded most of Lenola's shows in
Chicago. The band says you exist. Please contact me.- Barin
From: les gordon <lesg@microserve.net>
Subject: cd duplicaters
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:00:25 -0500 (EST)
hello all, i finally found a great duplicater for doing cdrs. it has a
plextore 32 speed reader and a yamaha 4x writer upgradable to 8x speeds.
i burned many discs and no clicks and pops at all. *none*
they cost around $1,250.
i am going to be selling these real soon. any questions email me. thanks
and keep on taping /les
From: "Larry Slavens" <IArooster@earthlink.net>
Subject: SXSW
Reply-to: IArooster@earthlink.net
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:11:01 -0600
Since we don't have someone threatening to take people's tapes,
stomp on their decks, etc. like we did last year <g> is anyone
taping at SXSW this year? I'd be up for trades of alt.country artists
and others, like Robbie Fulks, Bottle Rockets, Gourds,
Damnations, Backsliders, Lucinda Williams, BR5-49, Ray Wylie
Hubbard, Waco Brothers, Joe Henry, Cesar Rosas. . .
Also looking for trades for pretty much any of the above.
Larry
IArooster@earthlink.net
From: "Adam C." <roarke@bigfoot.com>
Subject: re: DAT's and CD's topics
Reply-To: "Adam C." <roarke@bigfoot.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:12:58 -0700
I for one am extremely pleased in the variety of topics discussed on this
list, from CD's to DAT to general digital to mike placement to bootleggers,
etc. Keep on posting!
Peace,
Adam
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From: "Michael Beck" <mbeck69@hotmail.com>
Subject: DVD-Audio, JMP + Fishman, List noise, Phish, etc.
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 19:24:41 PST
Brief post, couple of things. First of all, I believe the DVD-Audio
spec *has* been ratified, and just in the last week or so.
Unfortunately, it seems that we'll still be limited to 74 minutes per
disc (though I may be reading it wrong). Multi-channel audio is cool,
though only six channels are supported at 96kHz/24bit. The coolest is
2-channel audio at 192kHz/24bit. :) Looks like we'll be hearing some
amazing music in a few years! For more info, check out:
http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/1999/DVD-Audio-10.html
Next topic: is there any possibility of someone running a tree of
the Jazz Mandolin Project + Fishman shows (tour de flux) from last
month? I was at the the Irving Plaza show and it was incredible! It
was nice to see a bunch of good JMP stuff interpreted by Fishman.
Cool! (Alternatively, if a tree doesn't happen, would someone be
willing to do B+P for this show from a poor unidecker? Please?)
Moving right along: I think a lot of the problems people are having
on this list come from the S/N ratio. Namely, the extraneous HTML, the
unneeded large quotes, but also the multiple questions which are
constantly asked (like should I get a D7 or a D8?). And I agree with
whoever said that we should try to focus more on DATs and less on CDs;
this isn't a Windows help group. That said, if a question hasn't been
asked before it probably can't hurt to ask it here - all we have to do
is page down past it if we're not interested. But for the love of god,
please try to search the archives before asking 5000 (?) people what
the best home deck is! I think that's the answer, really - if we all
try to keep in mind that our every word will be read by 5000 other
people, maybe we'll be more economical. :)
And lastly, just because I happen to be posting: those interested
in Phish might want to check out http://www.phish.net/news.shtml. It
seems our favourite band might be playing a festival in mid-July, not
the end of August. They applied for (and received) a permit for a
possible show in Johnstown, New York. Nothing's been announced yet,
and they're looking at two other venues, but something's definitely
in the works. And for July, too! Sigh. I hope summer tour isn't as
short as I'm suspecting it will be...Take care everybody!
- Mike
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From: NaiuTaper@aol.com
Subject: No DAT Content: Microphone Bar ??
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 22:29:06 EST
All this talk of different setups for microphone placement got me to thinking
that i needed to go out and test all these ideals in the field as to become
more adept in my recording skills. So I have one question, what would be the
best adjustable stereo microphone holders for a stand that would allow me to
try as many different techniques as possible from ORTF to XY ,even as extreme
( in my humble opinion as Blumlein crossed 8s. For without experimenting how
is one truly to understand what is written. Have seen and looking at Shure A
27M, but would like to know about more options. ohh BTW I use small Cpasule
microphones the Nuemann km184's.
Peace
Stephen
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