DAT-Heads Digest #796
Contents:
Cable Question (Robert Ian Hoffman)
OE Fall Update ("John Cocci")
Recording equipment restrictions at Dave & Tim accoustic tour ("Bartbart")
Re: stand-alone vs. digital soundcard ("Gary Davis")
human league '82 (GaoBest@aol.com)
anyone know a site for Bevis Frond setlists? (NYLifer@aol.com)
Wanted - tape of 'Sting - Story Tellers Session' (willard robinson)
;:?) (lisa_singleton@usa.net)
Re: DAT to CDR effeiciently? (Ramon Giorgi)
Microphone Application & Use ("Klay Anderson")
Heads Up (Steven Kingsley)
44.1 or 48k ???? ("Michael Ryan")
What does Sound Forge do when.....? (CUNNINGHAM@PSC.EDU)
ISO MMW 12-4-98 (sbrown@nnbt.com)
live don cab (Jim Hoey)
bassy csb's ("Edwin T. Pankau")
desperately in need of tapers for upcoming KISS 1999 shows ("Tom Bjelland")
Scud Mountain Boys ("Dave Dawkins")
re: 90m tapes up the ass (MrBERWELL@aol.com)
[no subject] (Jackson Gibbs)
90m tapes up the ass (Jay Fitzgerald)
re: ISO Sony sbm-1/ cd factory? (Bill Mitchell)
Billy Joel (PanicWSP@aol.com)
ISO Bluegrass DATs ("Burtch, Anson")
From: Robert Ian Hoffman <rih5@columbia.edu>
Subject: Cable Question
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 01:47:40 -0500 (EST)
Sorry that this question isn't digital, but it does deal with my DAT deck.
I have a Sony M1 and use a monster cable 1/8"->RCA for analog dubbing.
Recently, I have had problems with the left channel almost completely
dropping out...this is occuring through the cable (or the jack) and levels
are normal on the DAT player. The other thing is that there is a hum
which is sent through the cable that registers around -8 db on my analog
deck. When ever this hum is occuring, I can give the cable the slightest
tap anywhere...and it usually goes away (or it may require a few taps).
I'm pretty sure it isn't the 1/8" jack because if the hum is occuring I
can tap the cable without it really moving in the jack and the hum goes
away. Lastly, if I touch the 1/8" male plug on the cable with my finger
it generates the hum...it depends if I touch the tip or the ring (I think
this is the right terminology) for generating the hum in either the left
or right channel. Does anyone know what's going on? Thanks,
rob
rih5@columbia.edu
From: "John Cocci" <johnc@simsnow.com>
Subject: OE Fall Update
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:03:05 -0800
Go to www.oe.org for an update on the fall tree.
John
From: "Bartbart" <adunn@wirx.net>
Subject: Recording equipment restrictions at Dave & Tim accoustic tour
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 01:11:58 -0800
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I plan on recording the Berkeley and Sacramento Dave and Tim but I'm not =
sure if there are any regulation on what equipment can be used. Would =
the let me use a 10ft mic stand? Also, if anyone has been to those =
theaters before, I was wondering if you know where we can setup our =
equipment. Also, if anyone needs a patch, it's ok, but please email me =
and bring your own digital cables. Digital takes priority over analog.
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My recording stuff is as follows:
AKG480B w/ CK63 (hypercardiod) on shockmounts
Tascam DAP1
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From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com>
Subject: Re: stand-alone vs. digital soundcard
Reply-to: gdavis@loop.com
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 02:21:01 -0800
> What do you do when you want to do some editing? At the very least
> there are fade ins/outs. What if you want to boost the volume, EQ,
All these can be easily accomplished on a stand-alone. It's
actually much easier to control and listen to EQ in the analog
domain (assuming you like your equalizers and speakers, of
course) than the computer, which at least with Cool Edit and an
average-quality analog output, is largely guesswork.
But please read carefully -- when I do what to use the computer, I
just take the stand-alone-produced CD-RW (erasable disc), read it
into the computer at 4-16X speed, and work on it from there. With
all the trouble people have with digital soundcards and sample rate
conversion, this really is a valid alternative (with some advantages
and drawbacks, of course).
thanks
--G
From: GaoBest@aol.com
Subject: human league '82
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 06:32:55 EST
Hey kids
I'm looking for good tapes of Human League playing in '82 - I do have some
shows from that era, as well as an excellent tape from '95, but it's generally
very hard to get good tapes from '82 for Human League. Needless to say I
don't expect anything from DAT clones, nor do I need an analog-DAT version
either even though that would be nice. I have a lot of excellent tapes that
would probably please any fans of Human League (and other "similar" music),
please email me directly at GaoBest@aol.com
cheers
mike
From: NYLifer@aol.com
Subject: anyone know a site for Bevis Frond setlists?
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:10:26 EST
R
From: willard robinson <willr@star.net>
Subject: Wanted - tape of 'Sting - Story Tellers Session'
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 18:54:18 -0500
Anyone have this on DAT/cd? I think it was from a VH1 program.
tc
Will
www.star.net/People/~willr/dat-list.txt
From: lisa_singleton@usa.net
Subject: ;:?)
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 05:13:48
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From: Ramon Giorgi <giorgi@xs4all.nl>
Subject: Re: DAT to CDR effeiciently?
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:55:37 +0100
At 12:15 PM -0500 2/21/99, Richard wrote:
> I have been making some CDRs from DAT recordings recently and I'm wondering
> if anyone has an efficient way of doing this.
>
> I did it by digitizing the whole show in one pass and then dividing that
file
> up into the individual songs for import into Jam for CD burning. I used
> ProTools (MAC) to dig in and edit (also added a bit of EQ and Compression)
> then mixed down the songs to AIFF files to import into Adaptec Jam.
>
> The problem is that it takes a really long time to do it this way. Does
> anyone have suggestions on a more efficient way to get concert DAT
recordings
> to CD?
I assume that this is a MAC problem (this is NOT an attack to MAC users).
The software I use on the PC works fine. I use Adaptec CD creator and COOL
EDIT. Here are the steps :-)
- transfer your DAT recording to the HD using Cooledit
- select the first track
- select SAVE SELECTION from the file menu
- type the filename, mostly TRACK01
- delete the selected area
- continue with selecting, saving and deleting the tracks
- start Adaptec Easy CD creator deluxe
- select all your TRACK01 ... TRACKXX files
- select the option DISK AT ONCE
- and burn the whole thing
:-)
Ramon
From: "Klay Anderson" <klay@klay.com>
Subject: Microphone Application & Use
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:39:29 -0700
"Asher Dunn" <adunn@wirx.net>
Subject: Hypercardiod VS. Cardiod
asked:
<<This is a multi-part message in MIME format.>>
First, go to your preferences panel and turn off "mime", then:
<<Hi, I was wondering the applications of each these patterns (when would =
you use cardiod over hypercardiod and vise versa).>>
For a decent introduction to mic uses see
http://www.dpamicrophones.com/
then click on "Microphone University" and explore from there.
--
Regards,
Klay Anderson
http://www.klay.com
1.800.FOR.KLAY
From: Steven Kingsley <steven@airsys.net>
Subject: Heads Up
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:40:05 -0500
If ya haven't seen the previews yet...
SK
---
Sunday (Feb. 28)
E!, The E! True Hollywood Story: Jerry Garcia: The
story of one of the strangest trips ever taken, of a
rebellious soul who disdained everything "establishment"
and paid a heavy price for it.
From: "Michael Ryan" <beerman@gte.net>
Subject: 44.1 or 48k ????
Reply-To: "Michael Ryan" <beerman@gte.net>
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 08:05:29 -0800
Hi Folks , without opening to big a can of worms here I would like some
input on wether to record master's at 44.1 or 48 k if I plan on using a
stand-alone CD writer. I do mostly boards so am not looking to edit or
clean-up any tapes ( I'll leave that to you Pro's ) . I am recording Peter
Rowan and Tony Rice wed. night in a very small hall , Maybe 110 people !!! I
am looking for a great show and will want to put this on CD soon , maybe
even tree it if enough people are interested ... Thanks for the bandwidth
and look forward to your replies . You may write care of the digest so that
others like myself can see your answers or directly to me at <
beerman@gte.net > Thank's again , Peace , Michael
From: CUNNINGHAM@PSC.EDU
Subject: What does Sound Forge do when.....?
Reply-To: cunningham@PSC.EDU
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:26:06 -0500
Someone stated:
>Increase the volume before any other processing (sample-rate conversion, EQ,
>NR, whatever).
What does Sound Forge do when you've normalized and then EQ with a curve that
requires more power, (like adding lots of bass). Does it perform an automatic
gain reduction, or overload/compress or what?
Anyone got any solo Gans on tape or CD they'd be willing to share? I'm opening
for him and want to see what I've gotten myself into.
Thanks,
pUNK
From: sbrown@nnbt.com
Subject: ISO MMW 12-4-98
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 99 09:09:09 PST
Looking to trade for a DAT of the Pinecrest School gig (Medeski's alma
mater). Thanks.
Steve
From: Jim Hoey <jim@e-town.com>
Subject: live don cab
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:14:43 -0500
By all means, whatever you do, if you are into Don Caballero, go out and
see them live. Almost every song that you'lll hear on recordings like What
Burns Never Returns are reproduced as is live, and it fully kicks ass. The
last time I saw them play was at Coney Island High here in new york,they
opened up with a quote from somewhere defining hell and then proceeded to
blast the most intense, ululating, fucked up progressive lilting shit.
Check them out in march at the black cat, or 9:30 club down in DC. I havent
taped any of their shows, unfortunately, but if someone does, i'd also be
down for a B&P. The next time their in new york, I'll be there, dat in
hand, so I'll be able to return the favor..
James Hoey
Staff Writer
E/Town: The Home Electronics Guide
http://www.e-town.com
Jim@e-town.com
From: "Edwin T. Pankau" <pankau@fas.harvard.edu>
Subject: bassy csb's
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:28:55 -0500 (EST)
i have recorded 4 or 5 concerts so far with my csb's siwtched to bass-roll
off. they are still too bassy. i have to end up cutting the bass in cool
edit, which takes for ever. any suggestions?
ed
From: "Tom Bjelland" <bloodfiends@hotmail.com>
Subject: desperately in need of tapers for upcoming KISS 1999 shows
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:12:53 PST
Hello All!
I'm trying to find tapers for these dates for the upcoming KISS European
tour:
2/26/99 Helsinki,Finland Hartwall Arena
2/28/99 Oslo,Norway Oslo Spektrum
3/2/99 Stockholm,Sweden Globe Arena
3/3/99 Stockholm,Sweden Globe Arena
3/4/99 Gothenburg,Sweden Scandinavium
3/5/99 Gothenburg,Sweden Scandinavium
3/7/99 Berlin,Germany Velodrom
3/8/99 Koln,Germany Koln Arena
3/9/99 Frankfurt,Germany Festhalle
3/11/99 Erfurt,Germany Messenhalle
3/12/99 Bremen,Germany Stadthalle
3/13/99 Utrecht,The Netherlands Prins Van Oranjehal
3/17/99 Vienna,Austria Stadthalle
3/18/99 Prague,Check Republik Sports Hall
3/19/99 Munich,Germany Olympichalle
3/20/99 Stuttgart,Germany Schleyerhalle
3/22/99 Paris,France Bercy
3/23/99 Brussels,Belgium Forst Nationale
3/25/99 London,England Wembley Arena
4/1/99 Moscow,Russia Luzniki Stadium
4/2/99 Moscow,Russia Luzniki Stadium
4/4/99 St.Petersburg,Russia DK Lensoveta
If you or anyone you know is going to be taping any of the KISS shows
above,PLEASE e-mail me at: bloodfiends@hotmail.com
I am in desperately need of getting in touch with european tapers who
are able to tape the KISS shows above so don't hesitate to contact me.
I will pay for all tickets.I have many shows from rock artists to offer
and would appreciate VERY MUCH if you contact me as soon as possible.ALL
replies will be answered.
Thanks in advance,
Tom
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From: "Dave Dawkins" <digit@win.bright.net>
Subject: Scud Mountain Boys
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:23:41 -0600
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If anyone taped this now defunct group and would like to trade, please =
contact me.
Also, I would love to trade for any of the upcoming Neil Young solo =
shows.
Thanks for the bandwidth.
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From: MrBERWELL@aol.com
Subject: re: 90m tapes up the ass
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:45:47 EST
> Subject: re: 90m tapes up the ass
> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:48:26 -0500
My ass won't accept 90M's.
60's are no problem. If there is a mod someone please send it my way.
From: Jackson Gibbs <gibbs@roguewave.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 09:57:34 -0800
> From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com>
> Subject: Re: my friend stuck a 90m tape up his ass
>
> My friend actually did this at a recent show...
> it worked too, the goons never found his tape.
>
Man... I've heard some bad excuses for poor quality tapes, but this
really takes it...
-Jackson Gibbs
From: Jay Fitzgerald <jayfitz@micron.net>
Subject: 90m tapes up the ass
Reply-To: jayfitz@micron.net
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:23:49 -0700
I think 60M tapes would work better- more room for the gerbil.
From: Bill Mitchell <bill.mitchell@sabre.com>
Subject: re: ISO Sony sbm-1/ cd factory?
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:26:07 -0600
> Also, anyone have any experience/comments on a cd-burner called the
> "professional cd factory" by sonic foundry? I am not too educated when
> it comes to cd burners, and have a chance to get one for cheap. any help
> would be appreciated, the specs on the burner are at
> http://www.sonicfoundry.com/PRODUCTS/ShowProduct.asp?PID=19
>
Keith, i would highly suggest just going for the SCSI internal Plextor
Plexwriter, it has all the features that Sonic Foundry suggests and
coupled with proper software, mostly shareware, you could do anything
you wanted with the thing. Also, they are in the $300-$350
neighborhood, about half of what you would pay for the Sonic Foundry
drive. Check it out at this site.
http://www.plextor.com/820cdr.htm
later
bill
--
CDR Trading Page:
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From: PanicWSP@aol.com
Subject: Billy Joel
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:07:59 EST
Dear Datheads...
I was wondering if anyone out there taped Billy Joel in Greenville SC, Sunday
night February 21. I was going to try and get my stuff in, but i decided not
to mess with it since my seats were terrible. Anyway, i would be very
grateful for a copy of the show, it meant alot to me and the people with me.
thanks for the bw.
blue skies...
kevin
From: "Burtch, Anson" <aburtch@aplny.a-p-l.com>
Subject: ISO Bluegrass DATs
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:53:00 -0500
Greetings,
I recently purchased a Tascam DA-302. IT ROCKS. I'm so glad I decided
to move over to digital trading.... however I now must start the unfortunate
task of being a newbie all over again. Thanks to some kind tapers I have
a few Phish DATs to listen to. However I am looking for good bluegrass DATs
for my collection. Del McCourey Band, Tony Rice, Seldom Scene, David
Grisman Quintet, Sam Bush, Festivals....anything you've got I'd love to work
a trade or I can send B&P. I have some good bluegrass on analog if anyone
here actually listens to their old tapes anymore. Please drop me line
(off-list) if you can help out. It would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Anson
aburtch@aplny.a-p-l.com
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