DAT-Heads Digest #799
Contents:
Re: monitoring errors on the DA-20 ("Brian Krahmer")
90 meter in butt ("Chris Bold")
Fooling Philips 880 (BirdSongII@aol.com)
MP3 compendium (Joe Rioux)
Re: Fostex / tascam ("lagrassa-tv")
Re: Re Standalone vs. digital soundcard (Seth Breidbart)
Mick Taylor 3/17/99 San francisco (Colin Liston)
Sony TCD-D100 in/outs (Helder Luis)
Re:Hypercardiod VS. Cardiod (Eugene Hu)
Re: my friend stuck a 90m tape up his ass ("John F. Whitehead")
ISO : Black Crowes 2/24/99 ("Pat Price")
Steely Dan setlists? (NDC) (Steve Gilbert)
re: 90m tapes up the ass (Robert Moose)
soundblaster live! digital i/o ("Adam Klein")
TREE ANNOUNCEMENT: 2/07/99 Dave & Tim @ Bucknell (DAT & analog) (sunshine1@fuse.net)
ndc: JEWEL tapers worldwide (Eric Reichenbach)
ISO: CK-61 AKG Capsules (cardiod for 460B) ("Bartbart")
re: bassy csb's ("John Q.")
Sony M1 & Graham Patten DMIC-20 VS. DA-P1 (al young)
ROLLINS Reminder ("Rich880")
Herbie hancock 7.1.75 venue information ("Eric T. Nelson")
FS: Core Sound Cardioid mics ("mark wilkins")
Vinyl>DAT (Bayard)
ISO Salif Keita @ Beacon ("Eric G. Postel")
Overburning CD-R's (Daniel Barton)
From: "Brian Krahmer" <brian@krahmer.com>
Subject: Re: monitoring errors on the DA-20
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:10:57 -0700
> Both the Tascam Tips-N-Tricks page and previous posts on this list have
> said that one can monitor the error rates on the DA-20 by turning the
timer
> to "repeat play" and holding down "record mute" and "open/close."
Maybe I'm missing something here, but a DA-20mkII uses a different key
combo to view error rates. You hold the REC MUTE button and press the
COUNTER MODE button. To switch the display between A, B and AB, you press
the AUTO ID button.
later,
brian
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From: "Chris Bold" <r2d2@quik.com>
Subject: 90 meter in butt
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 1999 21:36:24 -0800
90 meter thats nothing try a 120 meter now thats a tough stealth job :O)
ISO THE BLACK CROWES 7-26-98 PITSBURGH
ON DAT \ CASSETTE \ VIDEO \ 8 TRACK ETC ...
From: BirdSongII@aol.com
Subject: Fooling Philips 880
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:28:51 EST
I was wondering what people felt was the best way to fool the Philips 880 cd-r
into recording computer CD-r's.
Ollie
From: Joe Rioux <jtr@vm.mv.com>
Subject: MP3 compendium
Reply-To: jtr@vm.mv.com
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:26:31 -0500
CMPNet has compiled a bunch of MP3 info and links that some might find useful
and even helpful.
> --- WebTools ---
> We've compiled overview articles, how-to's, and news all focusing on MP3
> so you can put it together yourself. Dive right in and pump up the
> volume.
>
> http://www.webtools.com/mp3.html?ls=twb_text
----
j()e
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Joe Rioux _ \<,
jtr@vm.mv.com "It's an obsession but it's pleasin'." (_)/ (_)
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From: "lagrassa-tv" <lagrassa-tv@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Fostex / tascam
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:53:38 -0500
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>> From: GaoBest@aol.com>=20
>> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:01:08 EST>
>> The D5 is physically identical to the DA20mkII.
>> Quick question, when I saw an advert in London for the=20
>> Fostex D5, the sign mentioned that it was Tascam,=20
>> despite also saying "Fostex D5" - so is Fostex owned by Tascam?
>Andrew Haley <aph@pasanda.cygnus.co.uk>
>Re: fostex/tascam
>Panasonic make both machines: they're based on the Panasonic=20
>D-05.Tascam and Fostex are independent of one another.
The Tascam DA20, Fostex D5, Otari DTR-8S have the same transport
mechanism manufactured by Pioneer. (The Pioneer D-05)
And all the decks are NOT physically identical. There are slight
differences separating them all.
Regards,
LaGrassa TV
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From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Re Standalone vs. digital soundcard
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:55:58 -0500 (EST)
>> I feel he's adding another step of possible signal
>> degradation by going from dat to standalone-cdr to cd-rom of pc and
>> then to hard-drive (??). And then back to dat? How the hell were you doing
>> that again, Gary? So many steps I forgot...
>
> If you subscribe to the "bits are bits" theory, the extra steps don't
> effect the music.
If the master tape is 48 kHz, you're stuck with either transferring to
44.1 using the dat deck's D/A converter and standalone-cdr's A/D
converter, or the standalone-cdr's sampling rate converter. That
might not be as good as your computer's (software) sampling rate
converter.
Otherwise, dat (44.1) -> cdr copies bits. CDR -> hard drive copies
bits. Editing on hard drive is what you want to do anyway. Hard
drive -> computer cdr copies bits.
> Each digital soundcard solution seems to have a
> drawback (no sample rate converter, forced SRC to 48K, poor
> Windows/PCI compatibility, high price, or ??).
Software sample rate converters can be better than any on a sound card
(they can certainly be at least as good, by using the same
algorithm). They can be slow and eat your cpu for hours, but cpu time
is free. Forced SRC to 48K loses.
> With my method,
> you save buying a digital soundcard, and you get two burners
> instead of one.
Of course, any standalone burner costs a lot more than a high-priced
soundcard. (Even more than the soundcard plus a second computer
burner, though I haven't seen any statements about what sort of system
is required in order to burn two CDs simultaneously without underrun.)
Seth
From: Colin Liston <cliston@utkux.utcc.utk.edu>
Subject: Mick Taylor 3/17/99 San francisco
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 13:58:10 -0500 (EST)
Mick Taylor formerly of the Rolling Stones will be playing at
The Great American Music Hall in San Francisco, CA
on 3/17/99
If anyone is going and plans on taping PLEASE let me know.
I'd love to hear it.
thanks
colin
From: Helder Luis <notype@mail.telepac.pt>
Subject: Sony TCD-D100 in/outs
Reply-To: notype@mail.telepac.pt
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:15:56 +0000
Hello there, I'm about to buy a Sony TCD-D100, and was wondering if it
has digital in/outs, because I had one in my hand and didn't see it. I
only notice 2 mini plugs, but no mention to digital. Although I've read
that it has using some adapter cables, is this ok for connecting to a
digital interface (ProTools or similar)?
Can I use this portable deck as my main deck for some time, untill I buy
a rack mount deck?
Thanks
Helder Luis
From: Eugene Hu <eugene@superpeter.west.enterworks.com>
Subject: Re:Hypercardiod VS. Cardiod
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:15:36 -0800 (PST)
Another thing to consider is hypercardiods often, but not always, have a flatter
off-axis response. How important this is will depend on what and how you're
micing.
-Eugene
From: "John F. Whitehead" <jfw@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: my friend stuck a 90m tape up his ass
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 12:19:19 -0800 (PST)
In DAT-Heads Digest #793, "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com> wrote:
> My friend actually did this at a recent show...
> it worked too, the goons never found his tape.
but did he experience any tension problems?
From: "Pat Price" <pricey@earthlink.net>
Subject: ISO : Black Crowes 2/24/99
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:55:59 -0500
Anyone tape/is taping this show??? My deck just totally broke (it's eating
tapes....aaaahhh!!!!) and I will not be able to tape the show even though I
was looking forward to it...it will be my birthday celebration, so if there
is anyone out there who taped it and would be up for a trade, please let me
know...I have a pretty wide variety of things to choose from, so I hope we
can work something out...take care
Pat
From: Steve Gilbert <gilbert@cs.utk.edu>
Subject: Steely Dan setlists? (NDC)
Reply-to: gilbert@cs.utk.edu
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:27:01 -0500
Sorry for the lack of DAT content, but does anyone
know where I can find Steely Dan and/or Donald Fagen
setlists? None of the setlist sites I frequent have
anything and my searches haven't been very productive,
either. Thanks a lot.
Steve Gilbert
gilbert@cs.utk.edu
From: Robert Moose <rmoose@mitre.org>
Subject: re: 90m tapes up the ass
Reply-To: rmoose@gateway.mitre.org
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:56:30 -0500 (EST)
MrBERWELL@aol.com followed-up re. the above subject:
> > Subject: re: 90m tapes up the ass
> > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 1999 23:48:26 -0500
>
> My ass won't accept 90M's.
> 60's are no problem. If there is a mod someone please send it my way.
Somewhat related situation here. When I use 90M's I must be getting some
shedding because a sort of brown substance is left behind. No wait ...
hold on a second ... Nevermind.
From: "Adam Klein" <klein@fas.harvard.edu>
Subject: soundblaster live! digital i/o
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 16:53:57 -0500
does anyone have experience with the digital i/o card that comes with
soundlaster live! ? Is SB live! a worthy device to do DAT >
CDR transfers?
Thanks,
AK
From: sunshine1@fuse.net
Subject: TREE ANNOUNCEMENT: 2/07/99 Dave & Tim @ Bucknell (DAT & analog)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:34:38 +0000
This the 1st announcement for the DAT and analog tree for:
Dave Matthews & Tim Reynolds
2/07/99 Weis Center @ Bucknell University Lewisburg, PA
Thanks to Ron Diaz for taping the show and providing the seed.
Thanks also to Allan Chen for running the CDR portion through the DDS
(Digital DMB Source).
source info:
Schoeps MK4 ---> Schoeps kcy250 active cables ---> schoeps VMS 02 IB
---->
Sony SBM-1 ---> Sony TCD-D100
To sign-up for DAT or analog *ONLY* head over here:
http://members.xoom.com/TheSamples/Bucknell.htm
Sign-ups for the CDR portion are coming soon so please be patient
-thanks!
From: Halfstep-2@webtv.net (Eric Reichenbach)
Subject: ndc: JEWEL tapers worldwide
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:34:02 -0500 (EST)
Jewel's "Spirit" tour kicks off tomorrow (Thursday Feb.25) in
Australia. See www.jeweljk.com for the rest of the dates.
Opening for her will be solo act - Steve Poltz, of the San Diego based
Rugburns. He is now in Jewel's band as well, playing acoustic guitar.
My request - PLEASE tape him. He is a great musician, and one hell of a
fun guy! If you tape him and end up not liking it, I will gladly
reimburse you for your tape. Else, I would love to trade for it.
Feel free to drop me a line with any questions about Steve and/or
Jewel. I think it will be a fantastic tour. Enjoy!
From: "Bartbart" <adunn@wirx.net>
Subject: ISO: CK-61 AKG Capsules (cardiod for 460B)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:31:26 -0800
I'm looking for two CK-61 AKG capsules. These are the cardiod capsules for
the C460B mic system.
From: "John Q." <zephead1@mindspring.com>
Subject: re: bassy csb's
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 18:38:27 -0500
Unforunately, I learned this after I purchased the mics.
>From what I understand, the bass roll-off function does not work when using
Line in. This is problematic for obvious reasons, as we are told as a rule
to use Line In. I tried plugging into Mic In, only to have my tape ruined
by distortion from hell (brickwalling) If I would have known this prior to
purchasing, I would not have spent the extra cash on the roll-off feature.
Len did tell me that the Mic In could be used, but only with a cable that
acts as a "pad" to prevent brickwalling. I'm sure he could explain this
much better than me. Len??????
-John
From: al young <sugarcrafty@juno.com>
Subject: Sony M1 & Graham Patten DMIC-20 VS. DA-P1
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:40:28 -0800
i just want to tap the technical knowledge of the people of this fine
discussion group. I am in the process of deciding what to buy. Wanted
some feedback on purchasing a deck. I'm getting mixed feedback so I
thought some more information would help me finalize my decision. Can
anyone give me some input on whether it would be better to purchase an M1
along with a Graham Patten DMIC-20 VS. DA-P1. My understanding is that
the DA-P1 comes with a 16 bit A/D converter, pre-mic and phantom power
built in. I also understand that the GP DMIC-20 comes with a 20 bit A/D
converter. Will this extra 4 bits provide that much of a sound quality
difference. The other thing is, from what I've been reading, the tascam
only allows for 2 hours using the built in battery/powersource. Does
this mean I'll have to purchase an additional external power supply w/the
DA-P1 if I wanted to record a show that was longer than 2 hours? Also,
does the DA-P1 have bass roll-off? My understanding is that the M1 & the
DMIC-20 does not, so if i'm using a set of mics that does not have bass
roll-off built in on the mic am i screwed with this set-up? My only beef
w/ the sony is that it feels like a cheap little walkman -- any thoughts
on that?
Lastly, can anyone provide me info on other pre-mics and their costs
(especially something w/ bass-rolloff)? Other pre-mics that I have seen
on my recordings include sonosax, beyer mv100, lunatec V2. Is there a
web-page that compares/contrasts them??
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From: "Rich880" <rich880@tmlp.com>
Subject: ROLLINS Reminder
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:25:35 -0500
Every Wednesday in March, Henry Rollins will be doing a spoken word show at
Luna Park in Los Angeles. Those dates are March 3, 10, 17, 24, 31.
Anybody taping these shows please drop me a line to setup a trade.
Thanks for the B/W
Rich
From: "Eric T. Nelson" <tourcrew@javanet.com>
Subject: Herbie hancock 7.1.75 venue information
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 19:56:09 -0600
Subject says it all.
Does anyone have the venue information for this much-traded show?
Thanks, Eric
From: "mark wilkins" <wilkinsmd@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: Core Sound Cardioid mics
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 17:24:00 PST
For Sale:
Core Sound Cardioid Microphones
Very small and stealthy. Used about a dozen times.
These are the regular cardioids, not the "low cost"
ones. Removable mounting clips and battery box
included.
You can read all about them here:
http://www.core-sound.com/cardioid.html
$195 shipped (within the U.S. anyway).
E-mail wilkinsmd@hotmail.com if interested.
Thanks
Mark
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From: Bayard <walden@eclipse.net>
Subject: Vinyl>DAT
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:30:18 -0500 (EST)
Are there any tips on moving LP's to DAT (and then to CDR)? I assume
there's a web page on this? I have some very clean records (only played
once i believe) and a decent to quite good turntable (not sure!) The
tapes sound great with the exception of some distortion when the singer
makes a "sh" sound. Any way around this?
Also, does sound forge XP have any noise (hiss, pops) reduction, or is
that only on the full-blown deluxe version?
many thanks in advance. Please email me directly (cc the list if you
like.)
From: "Eric G. Postel" <EricPostel@compuserve.com>
Subject: ISO Salif Keita @ Beacon
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:38:42 -0500
Howdy everyone. Did any New York DAT Heads tape this show the other day?
If so, would love to trade for it.
Cheers,
Eric
From: Daniel Barton <dfbarton@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Overburning CD-R's
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 21:07:36 -0500
I've heard the term overburning used occassionally with cdr recording,
does the term refer to a technique that allows you to 'squeeze'
additional minute(s) to a 74 min cdr? I have a cdr that I want to copy
that contains 76 minutes of music, all of which I want to keep. Is it
possible to fit all 76 minutes on a 74 minute cdr by 'overburning' the
additional 2 minutes? I know that 80 minute cdr's are available at a
higher cost, just thought I'd ask this question since I didn't know what
overburning means. If the cd burner and/or software are a factor, I'm
using a Yamaha 4416s with Easy CD Creator. Thanks in advance. - Dan
Barton
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