DAT-Heads Digest #933
Contents:
Re:Re: Samson MX-4 (swsmith@ix.netcom.com)
ISO:Help with analog remastering (Aaron Westendorf)
ISO Galactic and The Pharcyde 4/24/99 ("Steven Spott")
ISO of two shows. (John Kellogg)
Recent FEDERALE shows ("Paul Galis")
Re: Bits Digest #931 (GuySonic@aol.com)
[Fwd: Trey A. Murat Indy, IN] (Monique & Jason Riggs & Wilson)
ISO: Phil\Phriends (YaMar2001@aol.com)
Sony Outlet Store Locations web site (JoE McCabe)
For sale: Sony Wmd-dt1 (dc)
powering a Mackie 1202 ("Paul Matthews")
WANTED: (Toby Germano)
Steve Reed's Bamboo Forest ("Mike Gallimore")
asbd v daud (GaoBest@aol.com)
ISO: Hall & Oates, Tom Jones, GoGos (GaoBest@aol.com)
ISO: Taper Tickets for 4 Phish shows... (KindTaper@aol.com)
Melbourne, Australia (Alexander W. Chin)
Any B&P's availible? (CK)
re: WANTED: supplier for Mitsui CDRs (Matt)
From: swsmith@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re:Re: Samson MX-4
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 15:19:06 -0500 (CDT)
I wrote:
===============================
"...a British company called 'Rolls' also make electronic news gathering/location sound for
film portable mixers..."
===============================
Whoops! British, my eye . . . and I apologize for the mistake.
ROLLS Corporation, 5143 South Main Street, Salt Lake City, UT, 84107
email: rollsrfx@rolls.com / www.rolls.com
<0 \\ swsmith@ix.netcom.com Stan Smith Dallas, TX 'boo-cat'
=) ". . .the only thing I know for absolutely sure in this
<0 // life is this: The two most common elements in the universe
are hydrogen and stupidity." - Harlan Ellison
From: Aaron Westendorf <westea@rpi.edu>
Subject: ISO:Help with analog remastering
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:38:15 -0400
I'm practicing remastering on the OSPS 10-31-86 discs, in preparation
for some work on some Agent Porridge shows I'll be working on soon(check
out 4/23/99 - unbelievable 3rd set!!!), and was wondering if someone
could help me out with this. I'm looking to mostly do some noise
reduction, not through just the EQ, but through wave inversions and
such. I'm also looking for other techniques to take a decent master,
1st gen, or 2nd gen source tape and clean up the noise, bring out the
clarity, and reconstruct some of the highs without overemphasizing the
"washiness" that a lot of these tapes have. FWIW, my main audio editing
program is Sound Forge 4.5.
thanks,
Aaron
--
====================================================
Aaron J. Westendorf
DAT List -> http://www.rpi.edu/~westea/dat
"Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, but
that we are powerful beyond measure"
====================================================
From: "Steven Spott" <henduck@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO Galactic and The Pharcyde 4/24/99
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 17:28:05 EDT
Looking especially for this Jazz Fest show along with some of the other Jazz
Fest sets; (i.e. SUPERJAM feat!!, Widespread Panic, MMW, Galactic, the
Meters, Dr. John, etc...) Have plenty to trade, especially lots of recent
Widespread.
_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
From: John Kellogg <phishjam@earthlink.net>
Subject: ISO of two shows.
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 18:03:50 -0400
I am looking for the following two recent shows which I was planning on
taping myself, but was unable to do so.
String Cheese Incident Louisville, KY 4-22-99
Widespread Panic Lexington, KY 4-23-99
I will trade dats or cdrs or do transfers to cd for you in exchange.
thanks
John Kellogg
From: "Paul Galis" <hotrats@xsite.net>
Subject: Recent FEDERALE shows
Reply-To: <hotrats@xsite.net>
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 17:54:44 -0500
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
=======_NextPart_000_0001_01BE94C4.DC6D3D00
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Looking to get some of those recent Federale shows in support of Gov't Mule.
Much to offer on my end. Thanks for the help.
Paul
-Remember there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over-
FZ
=======_NextPart_000_0001_01BE94C4.DC6D3D00
Content-Type: text/html;
charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
<META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type>
<META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D750414922-02051999><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3DArial =
size=3D2>Looking to get some of those recent Federale shows in support =
of Gov't=20
Mule. Much to offer on my end. Thanks for the=20
help.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<P><FONT size=3D2>Paul<BR><BR>-Remember there's a big difference between =
kneeling=20
down and bending over-<BR>FZ </FONT></P>
<DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML>
=======_NextPart_000_0001_01BE94C4.DC6D3D00==
From: GuySonic@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bits Digest #931
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 19:07:23 EDT
In a message dated 5/1/99 7:01:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
DAT-Heads-Request@fedney.near.net writes:
<< ------------------------------
From: "Drew Harrington" <drewh@bitwise.com>
Subject: Bits
Reply-To: <drewh@bitwise.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 15:11:08 -0700
> 'HARD-Head' COMMENT: 2 to the 16 power is (this is 16 bit
> digitization) = 65,536 divisions x 2 (for each polarity
> quantized) = 131,072 divisions of the total signal 'Peak
> to Peak.'
Um, where do you think the polarity is stored? It's one of the 16 bits. What
you've described is 17 bit sampling.
>>
The polarity is a separate signal that denotes signal zero crossing and might
be considered a control 'bit' . . . . a bit depth 'free' feature. I was
under the assumption that the polarity control bit was not counted with the
A/D converter bit depth of peak signals. I would see this a more truthful or
realistic specification and would call what Drew suggested a 15 bit convertor
with a polarity bit and not a 16 bit convertor.
But this is me and I'm much more experienced with analog, acoustics, and
systems engineering than having much to do with A/D D/A digital block audio
applications and their standards of specification.
However, the general considerations discussed remain the same for any 12 to
24+ bit depth conversion process. So I may be off by a factor of 2 in actual
digitization levels of a particular converter, I don't see this changing the
premise of my argument.
However, you're correct in questioning if zero crossing is included as a Data
bit. It technically really shouldn't be but may serve to be named as such to
avoid confusion or increase it for marketing considerations. This is instead
of telling the truth as being a 15 bit with polarity. All convertors are
basically unipolar devices that can only digitize one polarity that's starts
near zero volts to some maximum voltage (or current). For such convertors to
digitize signals that change polarity, a signal inverter output is switched
in as input when the signal crosses zero volts. This allows the same A/D
convertor to again process the signal with the unipolar read 'Full Scale bit
depth' code being tagged with a reversed polarity control bit.
Microphones inherently output a zero crossing audio signal. DAT Systems with
dual polarity analog voltage supplies (like the D100, M1, and SBM-1), have
dual polarity signals that zero cross, would be most likely to be working a
full 16 or more bit depth + polarity bit thrown in as advantage to double the
precision over that of a 16 bit unipolar conversion. Dual polarity supply
voltages offer analog signal processing with less inherent nonlinear
distortions than single supply audio processing like that found in D7/8 DAT
decks. Perspective is again regained for me when I recall the many really
good sounding tapes I've made just recording with a TCD-D7 deck.
Anyway, this may be worth looking into as a 16 bits DAT may be a full 16 bits
+ polarity bit or may just be 15 bits + polarity bit. Anybody know what
specification is a standard or to expect this changes 'a bit' with models of
decks?
Regards in Sound & Music Recording,
Leonard Lombardo
========================================
Sonic Studios(tm)..."Making Audio History With DSM(tm) Microphones"
"Sonic Studios Stealth Microphones(tm) . . . Since 1986: The First Choice
of Sound Recording Professionals"
Specializing in Patented HRTF Surround Stereo Microphone Technology for
Speech, Film, Music, Sound Design/EFX
TEL: 541-459-8839 /\ FAX: 541-459-8842 /\ USA Free: 1-888-875-4976
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Informative WEB SITE: http:// <A
HREF="http://www.sonicstudios.com">WWW.SONICSTUDIOS.COM
</A>
A better wish... "A bit of knowledge coupled to a great deal of wisdom"
From: Monique & Jason Riggs & Wilson <mkwilson@iquest.net>
Subject: [Fwd: Trey A. Murat Indy, IN]
Reply-To: mkwilson@iquest.net
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 20:03:30 -0500
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
==============3C4B9C868D8A25DC98AFE4E8
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
==============3C4B9C868D8A25DC98AFE4E8
Content-Type: message/rfc822
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Message-ID: <372CF473.306FEA42@iquest.net>
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 19:57:23 -0500
From: Monique & Jason Riggs & Wilson <mkwilson@iquest.net>
Reply-To: mkwilson@iquest.net
Organization: Not Very Inc.
X-Sender: "Monique & Jason Riggs & Wilson" <mkwilson@pop.iquest.net> (Unverified)
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-gatewaynet (Win95; I)
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: dat-heads-request@fedney.near.net
Subject: Trey A. Murat Indy, IN
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
To anyone who will be attending the Tuesday May 4th show at the Murat
Theatre in Indianapolis, IN:
I am brand new to DAT heads & brand new to DAT taping and trading. I
would really like to patch in with my D-8 (though unfortunately the only
cable I have is an RK -DA10P 7 pin on one end and coaxial input & output
on the other; let me know if another is needed & I will try to get it)
If anyone is kind enough to offer a learning experience it would be
greatly appreciated and I would be glad to provide blanks for your
recording or whatever you wish. For out of towners,I could also provide
a close place to crash if needed.
Thanks in advance,
Jason Riggs
email: mkwilson@iquest.net
(317) 255-0829 (call collect and say datheads, we'll accept)
==============3C4B9C868D8A25DC98AFE4E8==
From: YaMar2001@aol.com
Subject: ISO: Phil\Phriends
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 21:27:44 EDT
Hey Guys
Decided to wait until the shows had gotten out a little more until posting
that I was in search of these shows. Anyone who has time to dub me any or
all of these shows, that'd be greatly appreciated. We could also set up a
trade if that works. Phish, SCI, and some others to offer
Thanks
Brent
From: JoE McCabe <energyi@nicom.com>
Subject: Sony Outlet Store Locations web site
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 21:33:35 -0700
Dear DATheads:
Here is the Sony Outlet Store Locations web site
http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/factory_outlet/
Hope this helps.
JoE
PS: Anybody heard from Gary Davis (gdavis@loop.com)?
From: korndawgg@webtv.net (dc)
Subject: For sale: Sony Wmd-dt1
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 21:53:04 -0400 (EDT)
FOR SALE: Sony wmd-dt1 Dat player only
walkman. 4months old comes with LCD inline remote control, earbud
headphones, case, line out, etc..! All you unideckers or anyone looking
for a cheap car player or player only portable
walkman. HERE IT IS!! $200.00 I WILL PAY SHIPPING.. MUST SELL!!
please email me if you have any questions!!
danny coder
email korndawgg@webtv.net
From: "Paul Matthews" <corndog41@hotmail.com>
Subject: powering a Mackie 1202
Date: Sun, 02 May 1999 19:12:14 PDT
Many thanks to all those you responded to my post a day or two ago regarding
the Mixpad-4. From the responses I recieved, I've pretty much decieded to
spend a few extra bucks and get a used Mackie 1202 mixer. My question now
is......how exactly does one go about powering a mackie 1202 mixer for field
use? I know people have done it. I saw a couple of other people ask the
same question to the list a while back in the archives, but I didn't see any
responces. Thanks again for the b/w. By the way, i'll probably be getting
one of the older versions of the 1202...not the VLZ pro.
Paul
_______________________________________________________________
Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
From: TGermano@webtv.net (Toby Germano)
Subject: WANTED:
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 19:15:30 -0700 (PDT)
I'm searching for high quality Bryan Ferry DATS. Did anyone tape his
last tour?
Thanks!
Toby Germano
http://www.inergy.com/Tobison
<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
"...The Earth Does Not Belong To
Man...Man Belongs To The Earth..."
<><><><><> Chief Seattle<><><><><><
From: "Mike Gallimore" <gallobass@mindspring.com>
Subject: Steve Reed's Bamboo Forest
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 23:20:55 -0400
These guys are on tour now and I just got back from a great show. Don't let
the 'light jazz' moniker scare you off. These guys are incredible. They
don't allow taping so you'd have to stealth it and if anyone gets a tape of
these guys I'd love to get a copy.
Mike
From: GaoBest@aol.com
Subject: asbd v daud
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 23:35:58 EDT
"This artist has very few good-quality SBDs circulating.
Do you choose ASBD or DAUD and why?"
Why can't you have both? I know one guy who used to be able to do sbd/aud at
clubs, although I guess he only had one portable DAT, so he hooked the DAT to
the sdbd and then used his D5 for the aud portion, although only rarely. EG,
when i first met him, and he found out I was using an ECM909LT, he hooked it
up to his D5 so I could get a channel of the aud version (Buffalo Tom) while
using his DAT for the sbd.
I would choose the asbd because I woulda ssume _someone_ in the crowd was
using DAT to record. I always assume that every show (in a venue of 800 or
more) will have at least 4 people recording stealth, and at least two of them
will use a form of digital media (DAT or PCM).
xox
mike
From: GaoBest@aol.com
Subject: ISO: Hall & Oates, Tom Jones, GoGos
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 23:47:08 EDT
hey kids
I know this sounds like a stretch, but I am still really interested in
getting any DATs for Daryl Hall & John Oates, The GoGos, and Tom Jones. I
only have analog tapes of concerts by these fab artists, but I do have other
DATs of other artists and I would gladly record any club show in San
Francisco area for you if requested, to an extent. it's just that i really
like these artists a lot and would like to enhance my collection. any help
is appreciated, ta.
ciao
mike
From: KindTaper@aol.com
Subject: ISO: Taper Tickets for 4 Phish shows...
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 00:10:16 EDT
I know this is somewhat early, but I wanted to go ahead and try:
I was dead broke at the beginning of April. I had a ton of bills coming and
no money to pay them. The last thing I could think about buying with the
little bit of money I did have was tickets. Things are a little better now,
but unfortunately, I had to skip mail order. This was bad, but I had no
choice, and now I have to search for taper tickets for Nashville, both
Atlanta shows and Charlotte. I only need 1 ticket for each night. I can offer
cash, a patch in which I can carry in your stuff and/or run your deck for
you, which could be a plus for you if you don't want to worry about taping
any or all of these nights, I can put you first in the chain and take care of
your tapes for you. I can also offer cd's or dats of any or all 4 nights
right after the shows, and even copies of all three nights of Phil and
Friends or whatever is necessary within reason. I would hate to not be able
to see any shows this tour, cause after hearing the Phil and Friends tapes,
we are in for a fun summer. If anyone can help, please e-mail me.
thanks,
Wes---Kindtaper@aol.com
From: alex@gerulf.acsu.unsw.edu.au (Alexander W. Chin)
Subject: Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 3 May 1999 14:45:24 +1000
Hey all,
I sent this once, but it never made it into the digest. I'll try again. The
proposed trip will be around 20 May. Sorry for the bandwidth
>Sorry for the long silence. The technical DAT-Head Alex Chin has been a
>lurker for a while.
>
>Anyhow, just wondering if there were any DAT Heads in Melbourne. I'm
>planning a trip there next month... perhaps I could bunk in.
>
>If so, please drop me a line.
>
>And, yes, I'm still here. Just haven't had any new toys to open up lately.
Cheers
Alex
=========================================================================
Alexander W. Chin CF Consulting Pty Ltd
Consultant
E-mail : alex@gerulf.acsu.unsw.edu.au 5/5 Blenheim St
Phone : +612 9399 8804 Randwick
Mobile : +61 0413 812 805 NSW 2031
Fax : +612 9399 8804 Australia
From: CK <toen0013@tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Any B&P's availible?
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 00:54:33 -0500
I know this is probably a little un-orthodox, but please don't flame me..
I'm a unidecker and I am currently saving for a second deck so I can do
digital trades.. However, until then I can just tape shows and collect them
via B&P's and 2:1's...
So i'm wondering if there are some kind people out there who would be
interested in spinning a few B&P's or 2:1's for me? I just bought 10 of
the unbranded Maxell HS4 DDS 60m tapes and would love to send them out for
some shows...
HOWEVER... As much as I appreciate generosity, I just wanted to say that
I'm *NOT* interested in any of the following: Phish, GD, DMB, PMB, MMW,
STI, and other Jam bands... I just am not into Jam bands... I'd be
interested in just about anything else however (Ani Difranco, Tori,
Metallica, Stabbing Westward, GLU, Orbital, Orb, Chemical Brothers,
Prodigy, Tool, Aphex Twin, Depeche Mode, KMFDM, etc..) Thanks! And sorry
for filling up the bandwhith..
-Steve
From: Matt <mcrichley@canada.com>
Subject: re: WANTED: supplier for Mitsui CDRs
Reply-To: mcrichley@canada.com
Date: Mon, 03 May 1999 03:02:37 -0400
Brian,
You can try Computer Ultra in Toronto, here's the info:
www.computerultra.net
tel: 416.485.8867
matt
mcrichley@canada.com
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to
dat-heads-request@fedney.near.net with the word unsubscribe on
a line all by itself. If your email address has changed, you may
(optionally) specify 'unsubscribe oldaddress@olddomain' on a line
by itself -- an example is "unsubscribe liam@mit.edu." Problems or
questions about a subscription should be addressed first to dat
-heads-request@fedney.near.net, and then if needed postmaster@fedney.near.net,
never the list itself.
You can submit a message for inclusion in the next digest via this address:
Internet: dat-heads@fedney.near.net
Archives of DAT-Heads digests and related files are available on
the DAT-Heads home page:
http://www.eklektix.com/dat-heads/
End of DAT-Heads Digest
******************************