DAT-Heads Digest #937
Contents:
MerleFest Grovel ("Rob Linxweiler")
Trade for Neil Young 2nd leg shows ("eldorado")
Merle Fest Tapers? ("Chip Kelly")
Boston Tapers ("Jamie Lundrigan")
Lyle Lovett length? & Prine wanted ("Larry Slavens")
Re: Damn bit argument (pkmin@rsc.rockwell.com)
Fostex CR-300 and HHB CDR-850 CD recorders both in stock ("Gary Davis")
ISO: DEAD 11/26/82 and 12/31/91 ("Robert O'Haire")
ISO: P-funk DAT's (Carlo Wijnen)
Superjam (Rick Gebhard)
WTB: Audio-Technica AT822 (Mike Loewen)
Phil & Phriends B&P ("Shawn Michasiow")
Maxell labeled 4mm 60 and 90m dat tapes
Philips labeled 4mm dds 60m tape $2.25 ea
7-pin to DATport cable? (CK)
any interest in a tree of the Shakti Reunion tour? (Theo Forbath)
Long Lost Tapers - 'Dave Merz' and 'Beemer' ("Chris Rees")
Re: Damn bit argument (Seth Breidbart)
Mic Handling Noise ("Kent Borg")
ISO Fiji Mariners w/Warren Haynes ("Andy Krooss")
From: "Rob Linxweiler" <roblinx@enteract.com>
Subject: MerleFest Grovel
Reply-To: roblinx@enteract.com
Date: Tue, 04 May 1999 19:39:05 -0500
Hello... or should I say Howdy?
Freshly abuzz with the vibe of my second MerleFest. Looking for any and all recordings. If you've got 'em, but aren't into starting a tree, perhaps I can help. I have plenty to trade, and would be willing to help organize a tree to get copies of this show. Russ Perry? Are you out there?
I'll send my list if you're interested in a trade, but please don't sit on these wonderful tapes!
Thanks,
Rob Linxweiler
From: "eldorado" <eldorado@quiknet.com>
Subject: Trade for Neil Young 2nd leg shows
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 18:19:57 -0700
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Hi,
I'm looking for DAT's of the 2nd leg of the Neil Young tour especially =
Madison Square Garden shows, Akron and Chicago. I have the complete 1st =
leg of 15 shows (Wilterns on the way) and two shows of the 2nd leg. 400 =
hours of Neil on DAT/CD.
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From: "Chip Kelly" <chip@pagesz.net>
Subject: Merle Fest Tapers?
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 21:08:59 -0400
Anyone out there with tapes from the recent Merle Fest? I'd appreciate a
trade for some of those hot licks. thanks. chip@pagesz.net
From: "Jamie Lundrigan" <morningdew@beld.net>
Subject: Boston Tapers
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 21:26:25 -0400
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Looking for a patch at both Allman shows at Tweeter Center(Great Woods) =
this summer. A kind friend hooked me up with a Portable Denon DAT.I =
have never taped a show? If anyone could be so kind to help me out, I =
hopefully can hook you up with some music, blanks, or whatever. Thanks =
for the BW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jim
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From: "Larry Slavens" <IArooster@earthlink.net>
Subject: Lyle Lovett length? & Prine wanted
Reply-to: IArooster@earthlink.net
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 20:54:05 -0500
If anyone's seen Lyle Lovett lately, could you let me know how long the show
was? Will be taping him this weekend. . .
Also looking for recent John Prine shows. I saw him in Kansas City last
Friday (didn't tape) and it was great to see him again. I've got a couple Prine
but lots of other stuff to trade. . .
Larry
IArooster@earthlink.net
From: pkmin@rsc.rockwell.com
Subject: Re: Damn bit argument
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 19:17:12 -0700
"In reality, normalizing the signal, to put it bluntly, makes it worse. (I
was about to say farks it up, but we don't swear here).
Try taking the picture of the 1 cm graph paper with 10 squares, then fit it
into one with 13 squares at 0.77 cm size. Yeah... take the already jagged
picture, and redraw it. See if it gets even better."
The above example does not appear to be a correct representation of what
(digi)normalization does since the ampitude afterwords is the same as before. A
more appropriate example would be.
1. Your (simplified)dat recorder is capable of resolving 20, 1 cm blocks.
2. You have a recording whose highest peak only fills up 10, 1 cm blocks.
Do you .....
A. Live with it and turn up your stereo upon playback to get the desired
listening loudness.
or
B. Normalize it in the digital domain so that the highest peak now fills up 20,
1cm blocks and you don't need to turn up your stereo as high upon playback to
get the desired listening loudness.
I don't know how "accurate" diginormalization processes are(IE are they a true
"scale up" or are other artifacts now entering the equation), but I would
think/hope in this day and age that they are pretty close to dead on. If that's
the case then a tape whose levels are substantially low could benefit from a
diginormalization since less analog amplification (which introduces noise) is
needed upon playback to get to the desired listening loudness....Pete (...I've
never A/B'd the above scenario but rather throw this out to see how others
feel...the main idea is that (a mathematical)amplification in the digital domain
is cleaner to the ear than amplification in the analog domain).
From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com>
Subject: Fostex CR-300 and HHB CDR-850 CD recorders both in stock
Reply-to: gdavis@loop.com
Date: Tue, 4 May 1999 21:19:47 -0700
The DAT Store now has both models of Pioneer's 3rd generation
Pro CD Recorder in stock: the Fostex and HHB. These units are
exactly the same except for the front-panel color: Fostex is off
white and HHB is dark purple. Your choice, $994.
These are clearly the best stand-alone CD recorders in the industry.
Here are some of the features:
* Designed to record on the cheap "computer" discs, including new
80 minute discs.
* SCMS-free, will copy any audio CD or CDR.
* Optical, Coaxial, and AES/EBU digital inputs & outputs.
* RCA and XLR analog inputs and outputs.
* Starts recording instantly. Makes exact copies with "1-Sync" or
"All-Sync".
* All-Sync also has Auto-Finalize and Auto-Edit modes.
* Never stops recording during your music! Can be set to stop
on total silence: never, instantly, or after 10 seconds.
* Automatically converts DAT start_ID's and MD_indexes to CD
track marks.
* Automatic or manual sample rate converter.
* Separate left & right record level controls, good metering,
separate left & right margin indicators.
* CDRW (erasable) compatible: erase a whole disc or the last track.
* Digital fader.
* Rack-mount ends can be removed.
* Wireless remote included, wired remote also possible.
* Separate analog & digital power supplies, circuit boards for best
sound quality.
Any questions? Just email me at: gdavis@loop.com
The DAT Store (310) 828-6487 11am-5pm Mon-Fri Pacific time
Thank you!
--Gary
From: "Robert O'Haire" <plummer@inch.com>
Subject: ISO: DEAD 11/26/82 and 12/31/91
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 01:15:13 -0400
Subject says it all...chances are I have something you want.
Thanks, Robert
From: Carlo Wijnen <lefonque@globalxs.nl>
Subject: ISO: P-funk DAT's
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 09:07:52 +0200
Subject says it all.
Got lot's of tapes to trade: Parliament/Funkadelic, George Clinton & the
P.funk all-stars, Bootsy, Sly Stone, Larry Graham, Bernie Worrell, Maceo
Parker, Fred Wesley, Brides, Parlet, Eddie Hazel, Keziah Jones, James
Brown, Miles Davis, Zapp, Prince / O(+>
Please send private e-mail to: lefonque@globalxs.nl
From: Rick Gebhard <rgebhard@remc7.k12.mi.us>
Subject: Superjam
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 07:48:54
I need Superjam from New Orleans.
Please contact me if you have it.
Thanks,
Rick
From: Mike Loewen <mloewen@cpumagic.scol.pa.us>
Subject: WTB: Audio-Technica AT822
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 09:10:28 -0400 (EDT)
I'm looking for an Audio-Technica AT822 to use with a Sony TCD-D8.
Should be in good working condition, with cables. E-mail me if you have
one for sale.
Mike Loewen The Dixie Lion Jazz Band
mloewen@cpumagic.scol.pa.us http://ripsaw.cac.psu.edu/dixie.html
From: "Shawn Michasiow" <shawn@videosecrets.com>
Subject: Phil & Phriends B&P
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 06:55:30 -0700
Good day DAT-Heads
I will make 2 copies of each Phil & Friends. I will NOT make you more than
one show. I am looking for 6 peeps to do one show each.
Peace,
Shawn
From: <navalanc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Maxell labeled 4mm 60 and 90m dat tapes
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 56 22:52:07 -0000
Hello, Alot of former Kao gold users have taken advantage of the 2.99 and
3.25 prices we were offering on the labeled maxell 4mm dds tapes.
Hopefully the tapes performed well for you and you will now consider them
as a replacement to the kao tape. Unfortunetly all good things must come
to an end. The price for the 60m effective 5/10/99 will be $3.15 for
quantities of 50 or more, otherwise $3.25 each. The 90m will be $3.35
for quantities of 50 or more, otherwise $3.45 each. We ship all of our
packages out federal express super saver 1-3 day service from PA for a
flat $5.50. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thanks again
for trying out the maxell labeled product. Joe
Joe Navalance
Account Manager
Media Supply
800-681-9214
navalanc@ix.netcom.com
From: <navalanc@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Philips labeled 4mm dds 60m tape $2.25 ea
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 56 23:29:32 -0000
Hello, We have 1,000 brand new Philips labeled 4mm 60m dds tapes at
$2.25 each on a closeout special left. These tapes are individually
shrink wrapped, have jcard and label kit and are packed 10 per box. These
are the same type of tapes I brought to this market when I was with
megasoft, the wangdat, wangtech, apple, optima, dynatech, ect. Please
call or email me if you have any interest or questions. Thanks, Joe
800-681-9214 navalanc@ix.netcom.com
Joe Navalance
Account Manager
Media Supply
800-681-9214
navalanc@ix.netcom.com
From: CK <toen0013@tc.umn.edu>
Subject: 7-pin to DATport cable?
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 11:33:32 -0500
Thanks for all the replies about the DATport. I did order one today from
Sam Ash (1-800-4-SAMASH) for $149.99 (plus shipping). VERY nice price. :)
Now I need to pick up a cable that will allow me to plug my Sony D7 (with
the 7-pin Sony standard) into the DATport. I don't know exactly what kind
of connector the DATport has, but I think it's an S/PDIF RCA jack? I know
I can find this cable for as much as $150 but I'd like the cheapest one
possible. I'm not doing professional work here so I'm not too concerned
about a little diginoise here and there.. I can always transfer it again if
I have any problems. :) Any and all emails are appreciated.. Thanks!
-Steve
From: Theo Forbath <forbath@ncri.com>
Subject: any interest in a tree of the Shakti Reunion tour?
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 14:26:54 -0400
hi,
being a huge John Mclaughlin fan, and knowing there are others on dat-heads
who also enjoy Shakti and McLaughlin, i thought that i would try to
spear-head a tree of the US tour they are doing. i tried to find a
schedule for it online, but had no luck :(
i have the boston and NYC shows covered with Schoeps, and am looking to
hook up with anyone else who is willing to tape shows in their area. i
will then put together a tree of all the shows we get for anyone who taped
a show and others who are interested. so please ping me if you want to
participate in this tree. the tour is in June. if you find a site with
the complete tour listing, please let me know!
btw, if it is the $$ that are holding you back from going, or from getting
the best seat in the house, get in touch! if you are not familiar with
Shakti, they are one of the premier blends of jazz and Indian music!
thanks, t.
From: "Chris Rees" <boilerman@tdi.net>
Subject: Long Lost Tapers - 'Dave Merz' and 'Beemer'
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 15:41:29 -0400
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looking for these long lost friends. Dave Merz was in the Bay Area as of =
'97 and Bruce Beemblossom 'Beemer' was in Colorado somewhere. Have not =
heard a word from either in about 1.5 years. Any word on their where a =
bouts would be appreciated. E-mail privately.
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From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Damn bit argument
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 17:29:22 -0400 (EDT)
>> In reality, normalizing the signal, to put it bluntly, makes it worse. (I
>> was about to say farks it up, but we don't swear here).
> The above example does not appear to be a correct representation of what
> (digi)normalization does since the ampitude afterwords is the same as before.
> I don't know how "accurate" diginormalization processes are(IE are they a true
> "scale up" or are other artifacts now entering the equation), but I would
> think/hope in this day and age that they are pretty close to dead on.
If the normalization involves multiplying by an integer, then there's
no problem; everything is amplified equally (including the
quantization noise). However, that's rare; normally, it involves
multiplying by some random-looking number. As a result, the products
cannot be exactly represented in 16 bits, and there will be some
further roundoff (quantization) noise added. (NB: The new noise will
be around 96dB down from the now full-level signal.) The relative
dissonance caused by this noise versus that caused by turning your
amplifier (preamp, actually) to a higher amplification level depends
on the quality of your analog equipment, and is beyond the scope of
this mailing list. If you're doing any digital processing, such as
equalization, use 24 or 32 bits for that; then normalizing afterwards
won't hurt any (in this case, it will help).
Seth
From: "Kent Borg" <kentborg@my-dejanews.com>
Subject: Mic Handling Noise
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 15:04:11 -0700
This might not be applicable to those who record loud
rock concerts, but it *is* on topic of DAT...
I recently bought some AT933s (including that little
shotgun head, all as packaged by www.soundprofessionals.com) and a Sony M1 (that Klay
sold me). My purpose is low-budget location recording
for video.
I am wondering how to minimize mic handling noise.
Anyone have good, inexpensive, tough, flexible mounting
solutions they can share?
Thanks,
-kb, the Kent who already knows about gaffers's tape
and so is heading for a toy store after work looking
for ideas in industructable plastic construction toys,
and maybe a even cute (discount) plush toy he might
skin for wind sock use.
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From: "Andy Krooss" <krooss@bellsouth.net>
Subject: ISO Fiji Mariners w/Warren Haynes
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 18:41:33 -0500
Hey all,
One of the band members really wants a copy of this show. Plenty to offer in
trade:
http://www.dnanetwork.com/tapelist.htm
Thanks,
Andrew Krooss
Please email me directly: krooss@bellsouth.net
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