DAT-Heads Digest #952
Contents:
HELLO SWEDEN-Jesus Lizard & the Make-up 3/27/99 Umea, Sweden (geofry@xsite.net)
Oade pre Sold (Duncan Oldham)
Both outputs on SBM-1? ("mark wilkins")
Eveready batteries ("mark wilkins")
Re: CDRWIN subcode issues (Travis Young)
Re:taping on reverse side of tape? (Jason Reiser)
Re: Info on adapter for a light stand. (Romain Kang)
Roger Waters tour ("ted mann")
Roger Waters tour ("ted mann")
Extra DMB 5/20/99 field ticket for sale ("Jim Muriceak")
Internet Audio Recrding ("John Tsalikes")
CDR recorders ("John Tsalikes")
Mtn Air ticket for sale. (Jagjit Chadha)
OE Update - another important one ("John Cocci")
Anybody know where I can find plain talk about SCMS? ("Lost_Sailor")
looking for '99 pavement shows and tapers (the magus)
Re: DAT Tape Recorded Oxide In ("Charles M. Quinn")
unsubscribe (SHMUCK2185@aol.com)
Sunny Day Florida; Who posted that again? ("Jen and Steve Robinson")
Good CD-R Drive Under $400? (EZ)
Phish: RIG LOCKOUT REVISITED and attention patchers!!! (Aaron Baraff)
Terrastock II for b&p (Kurt Vogel)
Jazz Is Dead (Dominic Amalfatano)
From: geofry@xsite.net
subject: HELLO SWEDEN-Jesus Lizard & the Make-up 3/27/99 Umea, Sweden
date: Wed, 12 May 1999 17:33:21 -0500
Hey,
Did anyone tape the Jesus Lizard and the Make-Up 3/27/99 Umea, Sweden at
Umea Folkets Hus??? There may have been an FM broadcast??? Have quality
masters of both for trade.
From: Duncan Oldham <duncan@epix.net>
Subject: Oade pre Sold
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:13:59 -0600
Thanks everyone for your replys ,the pre is sold,,,,,Dunc
From: "mark wilkins" <wilkinsmd@hotmail.com>
Subject: Both outputs on SBM-1?
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:24:52 PDT
Has anyone ever used both digital outputs on an SBM-1 simultaneously? Can
it be done? How much does it degrade battery life?
Thanks for any info
Mark
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From: "mark wilkins" <wilkinsmd@hotmail.com>
Subject: Eveready batteries
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 16:43:35 PDT
Greetings fellow portable electronics users!
In case you weren't aware Eveready seems to be in the midst of a marketing
push. Recently they inserted a coupon in our local paper for $1 off a pack
of alkaline batteries and another for $1 off a pack of lithium batteries
(valid for the AA 2-pack). Then at Target the other night they had instant
rebate coupons, the deal is you buy two multipacks and get a 3rd free, right
on the spot (no mailing in receipts etc). The instant rebate is only for
the larger packs of Alkalines (8-AA, 8-AAA, 4-C, 4-D, and 2-9V) and expires
near the end of May. The rebate coupon doesn't appear to be specific to
Target, that's just where I saw it. Good time to stock up!
Mark
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From: Travis Young <young.28@wright.edu>
Subject: Re: CDRWIN subcode issues
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:49:50 -0400
>From digestifier #950
If anyone is using CDRWIN (www.goldenhawk.com) don't put the subcode
"DCP"
(digital copy permitted) in the subcode area. It won't fix what you
feel
it should fix, which is SCMS related issues. I have tried it and it
doesn't do anything.
reply:
I have been informed by a few fellow Heads the problem I experienced
with the "DCP" subcode flag on CDRWIN might be related to my coax out or
my CDP-707ESD CD player itself. So feel free to try! -Thanks to David
and Sam
Trav
From: Jason Reiser <jreiser@ecoutez.com>
Subject: Re:taping on reverse side of tape?
Reply-To: jreiser@ecoutez.com
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:01:41 -0700
The arguments about why a recording cannot be made on the reverse of a
DAT
tape all sound quite interesting. I'd believe it if not for the fact
that
I've done it.
About two years ago this topic came up, and someone mentioned they had a
tape that they thought must have recorded on the reverse side of the
tape.
So I had an idea on how to flip the entire tape, end to end, and check
if
there was any music on the back. Before he sent the tape to be to try
it,
I wanted to try recording on the back side of a DAT to even see if it
could
hold data.
This was a new Ampex 60m DDS tape recorded with a D8. The few minutes I
recorded on the wrong side of the tape *did* record, and played with no
audible errors. I didn't have a deck with an error counter, and I
imagine
this is not the best way to archive music. ;)
I'll see if I can find that tape anywhere, but I suspect I trashed it as
I was a bit fearful of using it by accident after the surgery.
For the curious, I started by cutting the tape in the leader at the
start
of the tape. I then flipped the tape 180 degrees and spliced the break
back together. Then I carefully would the tape manually (with a pen) to
the very end, all the while keeping the twist I'd created at the
cartridge
opening so it didn't get crunched on the spool. Once I got to the end,
I
cut/spliced again to get rid of the twist. This effectively duplicates
the
theoretical "tape flipped during loading" situation where D7/D8 decks
might
be recording on the wrong side of the media.
Sadly, after performing the same surgery on this fellow DAT-Head's tape,
I
wasn't able to recover any music from the tape.
If folks still insist it can't be done, I'll duplicate the experiment
and
send the results.
See ya,
Jason
jreiser@ecoutez.com
From: romain@icp.siemens.com (Romain Kang)
Subject: Re: Info on adapter for a light stand.
Reply-To: romain@icp.siemens.com
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:40:43 -0700 (PDT)
| I am going to buy a 9ft light stand that has a 3/8" in diameter top
| post. Where can I find an adapter that will be able to accept a regular
| mic thread?
I have the Bogen/Manfrotto 3/8" to 5/8" microphone adapter (#3366).
Pro photo shops should be able to special order it for you. I got mine
a few months ago from Adorama Camera in New York for $5.95 apiece, but
they were backordered for a couple of weeks.
Also, Audio Engineering Associates stocks their own model (AEA-TA2
3/8F to 5/8-27M threaded adaptor, silver $7.50) and there's also an
AEA-TA1 which would be good for folks with 1/4"-20 threaded light stands
(the Manfrotto model apparently needs an extra layer of adaptor in that
case). See
http://www.wesdooley.com/prices/pricefrm.html
I use mine with a 17' Manfrotto light stand. In retrospect, I would
have been better off with the 13' model -- it sounds stronger and
probably doesn't wobble as much at the top.
Regards,
Romain Kang
romain@kzsu.stanford.edu http://www-kzsu.stanford.edu/~romain/mixed_up.html
romain@icp.siemens.com Siemens Info/Comm Products R+D, San Jose, Calif.
(formerly Pyramid Technology Corporation)
From: "ted mann" <hikinghead@hotmail.com>
Subject: Roger Waters tour
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:44:28 PDT
I wanted to take an informal poll as far as how
many DAT tapers will be going to Waters shows
and plan to tape. I will be going to some shows
and would like to get copies if at all possible
(pulleeez...) E-mail me if you need better seats
at Atlanta, Syracuse or Boston and maybe we can
trade.
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From: "ted mann" <hikinghead@hotmail.com>
Subject: Roger Waters tour
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:45:01 PDT
I wanted to take an informal poll as far as how
many DAT tapers will be going to Waters shows
and plan to tape. I will be going to some shows
and would like to get copies if at all possible
(pulleeez...) E-mail me if you need better seats
at Atlanta, Syracuse or Boston and maybe we can
trade seats.
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From: "Jim Muriceak" <jimmuriceak@classic.msn.com>
Subject: Extra DMB 5/20/99 field ticket for sale
Date: Thu, 13 May 99 01:51:25 UT
I've got a single ticket I can't use for
Veterans Stadium, Philadelphia, PA
on 5/20/99. It is the first of 3 nights.
Please help me out. Face value.
FIELD SEATING - Section B1 - Row 44 - Seat 6
$50.00 includes priority mail to you.
Thanks for the space.
Jim
From: "John Tsalikes" <taxiboy@gte.net>
Subject: Internet Audio Recrding
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:00:20 -0400
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recommendations on sound cards and taping a few of the internet =
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Thanks. John Tsalikes
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From: "John Tsalikes" <taxiboy@gte.net>
Subject: CDR recorders
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:03:40 -0400
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From: Jagjit Chadha <jchadha@calpoly.edu>
Subject: Mtn Air ticket for sale.
Reply-To: jchadha@calpoly.edu
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:21:13 -0700
Hello there. I have one ticket for the Mtn Air festival happening at the
end of may in Angels Camp, CA that I *really* need to sell. I bought it
for $65+$10 camping+$5 BASS service charges. I'll just settle for
selling it for $70. Thanks!
Jagjit
From: "John Cocci" <johnc@simsnow.com>
Subject: OE Update - another important one
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 19:20:26 -0700
OE is now at a new site, please go to http://dat.abe.boa-ins.com/oe for the
latest update. This is where OE will be hosted from now on and indefinitely.
Thanks.
John Cocci
From: "Lost_Sailor" <windead@dreamcom.net>
Subject: Anybody know where I can find plain talk about SCMS?
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:14:45 -0400
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does not allow SCMS to be defeated. Is it that once the die is cast (by =
recording on the MD with SCMS enabled), that I can't make a digital copy =
from the DAT (say back to MD) without some kind of SCMS stripper unit?
Peace,
Tom
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From: the magus <car3@duke.edu>
Subject: looking for '99 pavement shows and tapers
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 22:23:13 -0400 (EDT)
alright, the guys are over in europe beginning the promotional thing for
the new record and i know that there as shows starting to be played. if
anyone out there, be them in europe or the us, is taping pavement on
thier upcoming tour pelase let me know. i'd love to get in touch with
you before the shows and work out some sort of informal arrangement.
i'll be taping in dc and both atlanta shows and have leads on a few other
shows possibly. please get in touch- lots to trade. also, if anyone
made a good tape of their recent french black session, please get in touch...
cory
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http://homepages.infoseek.com/~threelobed/bardo.htm
From: "Charles M. Quinn" <cmquinn@primenet.com>
Subject: Re: DAT Tape Recorded Oxide In
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 20:32:44
><<Given the poor electrical conductivity of most polymers, I find it very
>unlikely for any signal from the heads to pass through the polymer backing
>film and into the magnetic coating>>
>
>Quite correct, and made more impossible by the fact that at higher
>frequencies (video, in this case) the magnetic flux generated by the heads
>does not penetrate into the oxide very damn far.
Aren't we talking about reading 1's and 0's not frequencies? Shouldn't the
tape be readable. The only problem will be how strong the signal is and can
the head read it.
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Subject: unsubscribe
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:53:40 EDT
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From: "Jen and Steve Robinson" <zeus@oz.net>
Subject: Sunny Day Florida; Who posted that again?
Reply-To: <zeus@oz.net>
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:01:27 -0700
My good friend is a huge friend of Sunny Day Real Estate and I accidentally
deleted the post about the person who had that show. Can you repost to me
or the list? thank you very much!
Steve
From: EZ <eric@ptd.net>
Subject: Good CD-R Drive Under $400?
Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 00:11:21 -0400
Hi, I recently found out today that my Sony CD-R drive only
supports track-at-once mode, which defeats the whole purpose
of why I wanted a CD-R. TAO mode is fine for studio recordings,
but for a live show I will need a CD-R with disc-at-once mode.
The drive was a gift, so I'm not going to complain, but I'm
looking for suggestions on a drive that supports disc-at-once
mode, and one that is preferably $400 or under. Any suggestions?
I'm also selling my Sony drive for $180 if anyone is interested, it works
great, it just doesn't support DAO mode.
Thanks,
-Eric
From: Aaron Baraff <dgregory@mole.uoregon.edu>
Subject: Phish: RIG LOCKOUT REVISITED and attention patchers!!!
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:38:33 -0700
I'm forwarding this to the list for Derek Gregory
<dgregory@mole.uoregon.edu>. Please respond to him and not to me. Thanks.
-Aaron
Hey all,
I just wanted to tell the world how happy I am to be the proud owner
of 14 LAWN tickets! I fell like standing on every mountain top and just
yodelling in pure joy and ecstacy;-)
Well sarcasim aside, I'm looking for extra tapers for
Merriwether->Deer Creek. Obviously lawns aren't the greatest incentive
for a trade but I can offer one cash, patch, clones: disc or DAT, or a
trade for some of the Northwests finest. Certainly I can offer a carefree
patch to someone w/ the assurance of being first out of the APOGEE even if
you have a Sony portable. I hate trying to sell myself and my rig but
I've been left absolutely no choice.
The rig is: Schoeps CMC6(21,4,41)>Audio Magic
cables>Lunatec(?)>ApogeeAD1000>HHb PortaDAT
This is the same rig that did the Phil & Phriends from the drink rail
minus the lunatec. I put a question mark by the Lunatec only after the
steller results from the Phil & Phriends w/out the Lunatec.
I'll also be trying ticketbasterd for some better seats to trade. Thanks
for hearing me out.
dissapointed,
Derek Gregory
P.S. I can also offer up the Phil and Phriends for the hook up if you
don't have it already.
From: Kurt Vogel <kwvogel@yahoo.com>
Subject: Terrastock II for b&p
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:43:26 -0700 (PDT)
About a year ago I ran a set of tapes from the KFJC
broadcasts of this show as a back-up for a friend who
was also taping the broadcasts. 3 days, around 40
bands. Reception was reasonably good-- I strung a
dipole across the living room (which my wife really
dug!)
You can find a list of the bands that played at:
http://www.terrascope.org/twesttxt.html
There is 1 sony 120 min tape and 8x90 meter DDS tapes.
I'll trade for a box of 10 new (shrink-wrapped) good
name-brand 120 MINUTE/60 meter tapes-- I'll pay
postage to even out the 10-for-9 tape ratio so no one
flames my ass.
2 or 3 bands have their sets cut where I switched
tapes (I ran home from work, switched tapes, and ran
back!)-- I think 1 or 2 is also in LP mode, and I've
had problems in the past getting 90 meter LP tapes to
play on the machine they weren't taped on so there's
no guarentees from me!
Looking for a quick trade-- no time to make clones for
individual trades.
Kurt
Looking for HQ tapes of: Icu, Add N to X, Kraftwerk,
new Meat Puppets!
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From: stagestruck1@webtv.net (Dominic Amalfatano)
Subject: Jazz Is Dead
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 21:42:08 -0700 (PDT)
1st of all what was that all about? Hey i have 4000 hrs of DEAD on dat
and cdr and all my little ol' heart desires now is some and all Jazz Is
Dead shows.... now is there someone here in this dat heads ''got any''
that he or she would like to trade for some Dead dat or cd? Thanks for
the b/w and have a pleasent day. Bless ya' all Dominic
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