DAT-Heads Digest #964
Contents:
Las Vegas Tapers - Saturday, Legends Lounge 11pm (pkmin@rsc.rockwell.com)
ISO Tragically Hip Dats (sbrown@nnbt.com)
Extra Mountain Aire ticket for sale (NDC) ("Lutch, James JJ ")
FOR SALE ("john")
ISO: Queens of the Stone Age ("Vikas Bhatia")
ISO-3-11-99 ABB @ the Beacon (BirdSongII@aol.com)
Sonicport vs. DATport ("Stephen Rushmore")
Radiators, Galactic, Rebirth @Stubbs BBQ 5/21 (Jeff Anderson)
[no subject] (Jeff Anderson)
[no subject] (Jeff Anderson)
woodstock taping ("ChrisC")
Re: DAT-Heads Digest #963 ("allan chen")
ISO-Trey@Flynn Theatre 5-17-99 (BirdSongII@aol.com)
ISO: Metallica Garage Inc Tour ("Rich880")
ISO WinTaper Phish archive file (John Kellogg)
FS: Prodif 32 and Red Roaster 24 (SusanHAI@aol.com)
Where are Oade folks? (Dennis Bathory-Kitsz)
HHb info... ("Steve Bartz")
phish taper tix (FatLionel@aol.com)
DMB giants stadium taper seats for sale (JEFF TRAVITZ)
isi: Patti Smith, Bowery Ballroom, 30th Dec 98 (Bill Pannifer)
mic thoughts (Hawker)
Re: DATport questions ("Darren Murtha")
From: pkmin@rsc.rockwell.com
Subject: Las Vegas Tapers - Saturday, Legends Lounge 11pm
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:56:48 -0700
Cool Water Canyon, an amazing jam band from Santa Barbara, will be playing
Legends Lounge this Saturday starting at 11pm. Could someone please tape them
(bring plenty of tape)? AUD, SBD patches all allowed. For more info check out
http://www.coolwatercanyon.com/ They are also playing a band festival at the
Desert Inn Hotel on Thursday from 9:55-10:20 pm if you care to check that out,
Thanks, Pete (I hope to make the Legends show, but am not certain)
From: sbrown@nnbt.com
Subject: ISO Tragically Hip Dats
Date: Tue, 18 May 99 11:13:31 PST
Have the 12-11-98 Neumann 184s and the KFOG acoustic (FM>DAT), looking
for others. Lots to trade (mostly "jamband"-type stuff...). Thanks.
Steve
From: "Lutch, James JJ " <Lutch.James.JJ@bhp.com.au>
Subject: Extra Mountain Aire ticket for sale (NDC)
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 04:49:41 +1000
Hi all, I've got an extra mtn. aire ticket for the phil and friends night, any takers?
Thanks,
jamie
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From: "john" <john@datrack.com>
Subject: FOR SALE
Reply-To: <john@datrack.com>
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:52:35 -0400
I have the following equipment for sale, all of which is excellent shape.
The reason for sale is that I purchased an HHb PDR 1000 about 2 seasons ago
& have only used the set-up listed below 1 time since the HHb acquisition
and would like to see it used, not collecting dust (figuratively)
1. Sony SBM-1 w/RCA modification by Doug Oade $300.00 firm.
2. Package Deal $700.00 firm.
*Sony TCD-D8, with a total of 56 hours on the transport & 1.5 hours on
the head. The head was replaced due to a problem with a 3 hour tape
by the Sony Repair center in Mass. per warranty. -like new condition.
*EcoCharge Sigma Battery System 6V, 4.5 Amp hours w/carrying case & charger
(will provide up to 8 hours of continuos recording time) - like new
condition.
*Oade Digital 7-Pin In/Out Cable. - like new condition
I have all original manuals/documentation/receipts, which I will provide to
the purchaser. Only serious offers please. You may contact me at
john@datrack.com if you are interested.
From: "Vikas Bhatia" <vikas10@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO: Queens of the Stone Age
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:44:38 PDT
did anyone happen to tape any of the Queens of the Stone Age sets while
opening for the pumpkins in april? if so, i'd be interested in hearing one
or two of these. please contact me privately, lots to trade. thanks!
vikas
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From: BirdSongII@aol.com
Subject: ISO-3-11-99 ABB @ the Beacon
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:58:21 EDT
Want this show on dat or CD-r
Ollie
From: "Stephen Rushmore" <srushmore@kenan.com>
Subject: Sonicport vs. DATport
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:22:29 -0400
I am looking for a way to convert my music collection to my Windows 98
computer. Right now I am thinking one of the Opcode products will be the
solution. Can someone explain to me if there any reasons not to purchase a
Sonicport instead of a DATport?
They both are both selling for about the same price, yet the Sonicport can
be used to transfer analog music. They only disadvantage I can think of is
that it uses 20 bits instead of 24.
- Stephen
From: Jeff Anderson <janderson@texas.nustats.com>
Subject: Radiators, Galactic, Rebirth @Stubbs BBQ 5/21
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 16:19:50 +0000
Hey all,
Just a cajun remider of some incredible music happening once again at
Stubb's BBQ here in Austin on this Friday 5/21! Best of all, this
music is catered around a huge crawfish boil! There is going to be over
1000 lbs of crawfish prepaired for this funky/jazz breakdown!! All
included in the $20 ticket price. Rebirth Brass Band opens at 8:00pm,
followed by the Radiators at 10pm and Galactic at 11:30! All happening
on the Waller Creek Amphitheater outside stage till 1:30am!! Followed
by Soul Rebel inside @ 1:30 till?? Tapers are more than welcome!!
This is worth the drive from Houston or Dallas!
Hope to see you all there!
Jeff Anderson
From: Jeff Anderson <janderson@texas.nustats.com>
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:51:26 -0500
From: Jeff Anderson <janderson@texas.nustats.com>
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 15:43:30 -0500
From: "ChrisC" <dirkdirt@rochester.rr.com>
Subject: woodstock taping
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:43:59 -0400
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From: "allan chen" <kaiyen@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Re: DAT-Heads Digest #963
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 14:53:08 -0700
> Seems that this device has been out long enough now that folks have
> experience with it. Questions:
>
I've used it since about mid march and have done about 15 conversions on it
since then, so I'll throw out what I know...
> 1) Are folks having problems getting it to transfer data reliably from
> DAT to hardrive? As a comparison point, I'm thinking of the ZA2
> where plenty of folks at times have had problems with random
> glitches in the received input stream.
>
I've had problems once, but they were of an entirely different nature than
the za2. the za2, as do many digital i/o cards, has problems with other
devices accessing the dma buffer during a recording. notably, video cards
with specific video drivers caused channel swapping and glitches.
with the datport, as long as you don't have a conflict with your usb port in
general, you should be okay. You shouldn't have any kinds of "noise."
However, since the datport has no buffer at all, I need to 1) use cool edit
pro because I found it has much more configurable buffering and 2) turn off
everything running in the background to get a clean copy. otherwise, I get
little "jumps" in the music where the buffer overran.
> 2) Does the software/driver provide a good indication of when the
> transfer has succeeded glitch free? I.e., if you transfer data with
> no apparent errors, does that really mean there are no
> pops/glitches or does one in practice still need to listen to the
> transferred file to be sure?
that's the thing - it doesn't provide any indication at all. with the za2,
you got a little yellow dot if you overran the buffer at all. plus, it told
you when it last happened so you could check it out. I could run
experiments on how much I could do with my computer while recording. I
discovered that I could even record a show to my computer _while_ burning
another one to disc - even if I did overrun, the software would tell me and
I coudl just do it over again.
but the datport doesn't have a feature like that - there's no built-in
buffer so it doesn't tell you if you overran it. I haven't been able to
find such a thing in cool edit or sound forge, either. So what I do is take
random 20 minute segments and listen to 2 or 3 of them, usually towards the
end of the file. I also defrag the drive about once a week.
> 4) For folks who have used it for a while, what are the main
> negatives/disappointments?
just the buffer factor, I'd say. I have to shut everything down, and that's
a pain. its' damn affordable, though, and portable...
allan
From: BirdSongII@aol.com
Subject: ISO-Trey@Flynn Theatre 5-17-99
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 18:41:51 EDT
I would love this show, got lots to trade, cd-r or dat, got Phils and
Friends, etc
Ollie
From: "Rich880" <rich880@tmlp.com>
Subject: ISO: Metallica Garage Inc Tour
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:11:24 -0400
I'm looking for some great DATs from Metallica's short Garage Inc. mini club
tour last fall.Please email me to setup a trade Also, if anyone is
considering tree'ing any of the shows I'd be interested in helping out with
that. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for the B/W
-Rich
From: John Kellogg <phishjam@earthlink.net>
Subject: ISO WinTaper Phish archive file
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:15:48 -0400
I noticed on the WinTaper site that there are databases for Dead and
DMB, but not for Phish. If anyone has this can they e-mail this fileto
me. My computer crashed and I cannot find the backup I made of my list
of tapes. If anyone who uses WinTaper and has a large Phish collection
and can send me their list file (wtf) and let me import the shows off
their list to mine, I would truly appreciate it. I also don't have the
registration no., but the demo works fine without it, I guess I never
wrote it down.
thanks,
John Kellogg
From: SusanHAI@aol.com
Subject: FS: Prodif 32 and Red Roaster 24
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:11:51 EDT
Prodif 32
-digital i/o via coax and optical (coax can be adapted for balanced xlr i/o)
-PCI card for Mac or PC (WIn 95/98--I've heard a few probs. with those who
run NT)
-sample rate conversion
-can ignore or write scms
-low jitter design
-full duplex for record/source monitoring (but I've never used it this way)
-includes a 4 track samplitude studio program (but not the full pakcage
available from SEK'D)
-some other stuff that I forget
I bought this brand new about 1 month ago. Works just fine but I decided not
to go the computer/cd-r route. Setup/installation was a snap.
$275 obo cost ~$375 new
Red Roaster 24
-awesome stereo cd mastering program
-sample rate conversion
-will accept up to 96khz signal
-has EQ, compression, dehissing and declipping software (and more)
-up to 24 bit resolution
$150 obo (~$235 new)
I realize this is software but I cannot use it without the Prodif 32 so I am
just trying to recoup my $$. I'll consider a reasonable offer(s).
As I said, I decided not to go the computer route on burning cd's. However,
with a nice cd-r unit, these two items make a sweet setup. Since I
registered these products in my name, I'd be glad to maintain contact with
the buyer(s) in case they need any tech. support or have warranty concerns.
Please see the SEK'D webiste for complete info on these at:
www.sekd.com
regards,
Patrick
From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <bathory@maltedmedia.com>
Subject: Where are Oade folks?
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:14:57 -0400
Anybody dealing with Oade? I had ordered from them twice with good results,
but now there's no response to my orders in the past two months. Are they
still alive?
Dennis
http://kalvos.org/
From: "Steve Bartz" <guido9@hotmail.com>
Subject: HHb info...
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:44:21 PDT
Hello,
I am going tp purchase the HHb PDR 1000. Would someone please supply me
with info as to who sells this deck at the best price. I know Seth posts
market reports from time to time, but I deleted the last market post. Any
help is greatly appreciated.
Peace------------Guido
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From: FatLionel@aol.com
Subject: phish taper tix
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:52:14 EDT
I've never taped Phish and was wondering if anyone could tell me how the
taper tix work. I heard that there is a set "taper's section". Is this
true, and if so, where is it located? (pavillion vs. lawn, relative to
board). Are there a limited number of taper tix; how quick do they go? Any
help is much appreciated.
stay in the groove,
Matt
From: JEFF TRAVITZ <travitz@op.net>
Subject: DMB giants stadium taper seats for sale
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 21:11:51 -0400
I have DMB taper seats for sale for both nights giants stadium face
value according to venue you must have taper ticket to tape they were
sold at box office only selling for face value
From: Bill Pannifer <billpannifer@easynet.co.uk>
Subject: isi: Patti Smith, Bowery Ballroom, 30th Dec 98
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 21:46:04 -0400 (EDT)
just wondered if anyone had a copy of this (the first night, not NYE.)
I've already obtained one, but it's full of dropouts.
Lots of Patti and other stuff to trade. Hope to tape her shows here in
London in July.
Bill
From: Hawker <Hawker@Connriver.net>
Subject: mic thoughts
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 21:53:06 -0400
Since it looks like eklektix ate #961 and #963
I assume this didn't get out the first time (unless you looked on the archive).
If I'm wrong sorry for the repost.
I'm looking to upgrade my mics and am looking for opinions and names of other
mics I should check. I am also willing to accept quotes/bids from any lurking venders.
Details.
I'm willing to spend about $2k for a pair.
They will mostly be used in ORTF and NOS configurations for recording
field sounds, including campfire music, nature sounds and occasional small/medium venue concerts.
I currently mostly record MS with a Sure VP-88 but want a better mic, as well as need a solution to
when MS is not appropriate (still plan on mostly MS recording). I'm mostly recording Directly to a DAP-1.
What I want is FLAT and ACCURATE. Bass Roll-off and PAD is nice to have.
Removable capsules are nice incase I want to get a fig-8 or hyp-card down the road.
Low self noise is also VERY important. Stealth is not an issue as I have to much
respect for the musicians to EVER record without permission.
Mostly I seem to like Senheiser MKH40.
The only drawback is non changeable capsules, $$$, and the are a bit big (heavy).
The Neuman KM140 looks nice but is not as flat, nor has the bass roll-off (which I use allot).
Are there any other mics I should consider?
How about zeppelins and shock mounts
I would want one that could be used for XY, NOS, ORTF & MS
that would have some sort of elastic suspension or similar.
Unfortunately out here there are no places where I could go to listen to
mics of this caliber so I am hoping for folks thoughts on this.
Thanx for you help
Hawker
P.S. Hey folks remember to switch to using gathering@conf.welcomehome.org,
not gathering@cygnus.com for all AGR posts.
P.P.S. The 1998 Arizona Gathering CD MP3 music recordings can be found at
ftp://ftp.xichron.com/xfer/Music_from_the_Campfires.html
Info on obtaining this CD can be found by e-mailing me at Hawker@Connriver.net
(Note CD on temporary hold till Mid March. As of 3/8/99 was 90% done re-mastering)
From: "Darren Murtha" <dmurtha@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: DATport questions
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 20:47:34 -0500
From: Thomas Narten <narten@cs.duke.edu>
1) Are folks having problems getting it to transfer data reliably from
DAT to hardrive? As a comparison point, I'm thinking of the ZA2
where plenty of folks at times have had problems with random
glitches in the received input stream.
2) Does the software/driver provide a good indication of when the
transfer has succeeded glitch free? I.e., if you transfer data with
no apparent errors, does that really mean there are no
pops/glitches or does one in practice still need to listen to the
transferred file to be sure?
3) Anyone have experience with this setup under NT?
4) For folks who have used it for a while, what are the main
negatives/disappointments?
1. It took me some time, but I have my SONICport working like a charm
2. Not really, the software you buy/pirate will indicate this, but the
DATport software panel itself won't. After you are sure you get it working
right, and when you know, all you have to do is make sure you have your
sample rates set right.
3. I briefly tried to set it up on NT, but read that USB doesn't work under
NT. I installed the service pack, and it didn't help, and I am impatient,
so I installed 98.
4. Biggest pain is you have to reboot when switching sample rates. The
manual blows, and so does Tech support. If you know about computers, you
shouldn't have problems tho. The main reason I like it is it doesn't take a
PCI slot and I didn't have to dick with IRQ's.
I am working on a miniFAQ for the DATport/SONICport, more on that later.
Good luck,
-Darren Murtha
dmurtha@earthlink.net
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