DAT-Heads Digest #972
Contents:
MOE. - NEWBIE OFFER (ChillyBe@aol.com)
Sale on "Consumer" CD-r blanks (SAlpert5@aol.com)
Is this good gear? ("Chris M. Hickman")
FT: METALLICA 05.22.99 FM broadcast (Sebastian Boschert)
cheesy stuff (GaoBest@aol.com)
Re: Rechargeable Batteries, Tascam DA-20 odd behavior (Alexander W. Chin)
Jeff Beck in JPN ("toshitaka kuniyoshi")
FS: dat tape storage (Coopers)
Core Sound/Sound Pro BINAURALS WANTED ("MINIBOOT")
Re: Mic stand/ recording questions (Tom McCreadie)
RE: Mic stand/ recording questions. (Hawker)
HHb 90 meter tape ("Rob Bertrando")
Maxell HS/4 Series Observation (Ernie Voegtlin)
Looking for 2/16/72 ("Dave Dawkins")
Maceo Parker (Bill Mitchell)
EXTRA: Phil 4/16 set2 (Erik Spring)
Looking to get rid of phish tape (Csberend@aol.com)
ISO: Garbage (Bill Shaw)
From: ChillyBe@aol.com
Subject: MOE. - NEWBIE OFFER
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 00:45:45 EDT
The following (7) moe. dat tapes are available to the first person willing to
send me (7) brand new Panasonic 124's. No splitting, take one take all...
All tapes are properly labled w/computer j-cards. All tapes are of subperb
sound quality. Just liquidating some things that aren't making their way
into the rotation very often... Reliable, Honest, and Prompt... are you?
Thanks in advance...
Brian
(1) 4/25/96 all The Haunt- Ithaca, NY S:D 90m
(1) 6/27/96 all The Paradise - Boston, MA S:D 90m
(1) 3/6/97 all Berbatis Fan - Portland, OR S:D 90m
(1) 4/7/97 all Jack Straw's - Charlotte, NC S:D 90m
(1) 4/8/97 all Jack Straw's - Charlotte, NC S:D 90m
(2) 10/15/97 all Barrymore Theatre - Chicago, IL M:D 2 x 60m
From: SAlpert5@aol.com
Subject: Sale on "Consumer" CD-r blanks
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 00:48:24 EDT
I happened to notice that this week (5/23/99-5/30/99), the "BEST BUY" chain
is offering a 3-pack of Maxell "audio" CDR-74 discs for $9.99.
For those of you with "consumer" model CD recorders, that only use the
tax-paid "consumer audio" discs, this may be a good price.
But of course it doesn't touch the "free after rebate" typical prices of the
computer CD-r's....
From: "Chris M. Hickman" <gomer67@xoommail.com>
Subject: Is this good gear?
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 23:13:48 -0700
Hello, I'm new to the world of DAT and had a question on
equipment. I've read the DAT-H FAQ and price/specs
shopped, and this is what I came up with for a stealth
recording rig:
sony PCM-M1
coresounds High-End Binaurals
I will be recording loud rock acts in rooms ranging from
small banquet rooms that hold anywhere from 100-500 to a
big theater that holds 2200 including balcony, with an
occasional trip to places like the Peoria Civic Center
(12,000, 4 levels), the Kiel Center (St. Louis), Braden
Auditorium (Normal) or Aragon Ballroom, Rosemont Horizon
(Chicago). Also will be taping close-range outdoor shows,
similar to the 100-500 banquet hall shows. If this is too
trivial to reply to the digest about, feel free to email
me, any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
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*****Chris aka GOMER*****
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From: Sebastian Boschert <boschert@STUTTGART.NETSURF.DE>
Subject: FT: METALLICA 05.22.99 FM broadcast
Reply-To: Sebastian Boschert <boschert@STUTTGART.NETSURF.DE>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:00:47 +0200
Hi!
Just recorded the following directly from FM:
Metallica - 05.22.99
Rock am Ring Festival; Nuerburgring, Germany
Here's the setlist:
Intro / Breadfan / Master of Puppets / Of Wolf and Man / The Thing That Should Not Be / Fuel / The Memory Remains / The Four Horsemen / Bass/Guitar Solo / For Whom the Bell Tolls / King Nothing / Wherever I May Roam / One / Fight Fire With Fire / Nothing Else Matters / Sad But True / Creeping Death / Die, Die My Darling / Enter Sandman / Battery / Pre-show FM Interview
130 mins total @ 48kHz
I'd be happy to trade this for any other cool Metallica shows or anything else that it listed on my Wantlist (check my signature for the url).
---
Sebastian Boschert
E-Mail: boschert@stuttgart.netsurf.de
Web: http://sebastian.2007.org/boots/
ICQ: 2010141
From: GaoBest@aol.com
Subject: cheesy stuff
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 06:02:57 EDT
In a message dated 5/23/99 3:02:52 AM, DAT-Heads-Request@fedney.near.net
writes:
<<Please no flames... just wondering if anyone feels the same way!!!!
Got Ricky Martin DSB's on the way... with 85' Menudo demo sessions...>>
ack - i really want this shit! no seroiusly, does anyone on this list collect
garbage music like this:
Ricky Martin
Celine Dion
Backstreet Boys
Michael Sambello
Scooter
Wham!
I remember seeing Spice Girls audience tapes on lists, which I still want one
of these days, but I really would love to get some of this stuff. especially
Celine. No i'm not kidding, and i do like a lot of shit, i probably have
something decent in exchange. um, let me know or osmething privately, i'm
not sure if the majority of the listmembers are ready to see a plethora of
DATheads starting to acknowledge their guilty pleasures.
ciao
mike
From: alex@gerulf.acsu.unsw.edu.au (Alexander W. Chin)
Subject: Re: Rechargeable Batteries, Tascam DA-20 odd behavior
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:14:30 +1000
At 12:15 AM 23/5/99, Digestifier wrote:
>From: "Howard Johnstone" <h_johnstone@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Rechargeable Batteries
>Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 02:18:37 PDT
<snip>
>Size AA (R6): NiCD: 1100mA Sanyo KR-1100AAU
> NiMH: 1600mA Toshiba TH-1600AAH
Ok... where may I buy some of these Toshiba batteries? I want want want.
Perhaps somebody can buy me a few.
>From: Paul Lucente <plucente@blast.net>
>Subject: Tascam DA-20 odd behavior
>Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 23:23:16 -0400
<snip>
>Now, here's what's really throwing me: If I have my D8 and DA-20 connected
>(or my ZA2 and DA-20) and I record blank space on the tape in the DA-20,
>there are ZERO errors on playback. The errors only appear once there is a
>signal coming from the playback device. Its like clockwork, as soon as
>there's sound coming from the playback device, the error count begins to
>flicker.
Very very good one.
>This would seem to indicate that its not a head-related problem, but I don't
>experience this at all with 60m tapes. Recording with 60m tapes has been
>flawless.
>
>The problem occurs with every brand of 90m tape I've tried (KAO, Sony DGP,
>Ampex, Maxell DDS), and dry cleaning the heads did not make any difference
>at all.
>
>Any ideas? Is it a slight head misalignment that for some reason only
>manifests itself with 90m tapes? Has _anyone_ seen this pattern before?
>
>TIA
>Paul
I could be misalignment, or tension, but it would manifest itself in uhm...
both channels. It never manifests itself in one channel due to the way DAT
information is recorded.
Well, I tell a lie, I've seen a channel drop out with the other *really*
distorted in an extreme case. But never before have I seen one perfect
channel and the other not.
I'm guessing it could be a firmware bug which causes the de-interleave to
fail under certain conditions.
Cheers
Alex
=========================================================================
As soon as you're born you start dying, so you might as well have
a good time!
Alexander W. Chin (alex@gerulf.acsu.unsw.edu.au)
From: "toshitaka kuniyoshi" <thrak@mocha.ocn.ne.jp>
Subject: Jeff Beck in JPN
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:09:48 +0900
Hello DAT Heads,
Jeff Beck is now playing here in JPN.
My friend taped his first show in Chiba yesterday.
*Jeff Beck:Tokyo Bay NK Hall,Chiba
DAUD,100min.
Sonic Studios DSM-6S/L -> PA-6LC2-> D8
He would like to trade it for recently Jeff Beck tape or Bruce
Springsteen tape only.
Of course, he is planning to tape the other Jeff beck shows.
If you would like to contact with him, please mail me.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Peace, Toshi.
toshitaka kuniyoshi thrak@mocha.ocn.ne.jp
"the world without taping and trading is chaos"
From: Coopers <cooper@lightlink.com>
Subject: FS: dat tape storage
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 21:22:46 -0400
hi all,
I have 12 dat tape storage wall racks similar to the "datrax"
product that hold 50 dats each. 4 are made of pine and the rest are
reclaimed philippene mahogany. All are finished in clear poly.
These are my own design and manufacture. My day job keeps me too
busy to devote time to producing them any longer.
I am asking $25 ea. for the pine and $30 ea. for the mahogany.
These prices do not include shipping. (averages $8-12 ups ground
depending on quantity and distance. You pay only actual ship cost.)
I also have a oak cabinet that holds 400 dats. It has 4 drawers, 100
dats each. full extension, heavy duty ball bearing drawer guides
handle the weight of the tapes with ease. this is also my own design
and manufacture. finished in clear poly, it is a peice of fine
furnature.
I am asking $350 plus shipping.(It is heavy, 35+ lbs. you pay
actual ups cost) photo available on request.
I intended to produce these on a "by order" basis, but again the day
job keeps me busy enough. Plus, i have a card catalog for all my
cassettes & dats so it has been empty for about 3 years.
Thanks for the bw, thom
From: "MINIBOOT" <mdqs@malek.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Core Sound/Sound Pro BINAURALS WANTED
Reply-To: "MINIBOOT" <mdqs@malek.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:39:48 +0100
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From: Tom McCreadie <mccreadi@simplex.nl>
Subject: Re: Mic stand/ recording questions
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:10:23 +0200
Js in #971:
>
>...Bogen or Manfrotto? The Bogen is 17' and the Manfrotto only 13'.....
Don't fixate on length <g>. You can only get two out of the three variables
- portability/sturdiness/height - and in my view sturdiness should be your
main priority. A flimsy vibration-prone rig is next to useless. I am
pleased with a 4 section Manfrotto "Master stand" (art.no. 004; max ht 3.85
m = 12.6 ft; min ht 1.09 m; wt 2.15 kg). Even then I prefer to add weights
to the legs. For more height or maneuverability, I add a counterweighted
light boom (art no 024; 3 sections; 2 m max).
Manfrotto carry a large range of well-built adaptors, C- and swivel-clamps
etc. I don't know the US Bogen stuff...had half surmised that Manfrotto,
Italy was OEM'ing for them?
--
Tom
From: Hawker <Hawker@Connriver.net>
Subject: RE: Mic stand/ recording questions.
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:20:02 -0400
Manfrotto and Bogen are the same thing/company..
They were called Bogen in the US and Manfrotto in Europe..
now they just call themselves Manfrotto.
There more than 50 stands in there line and they are all different.
Basically they have a lightweight line (ala the famous 3374 etc)
and a heaver, sturdier line.. If you goto your local camera shop
ask for a Manfrotto catalog and it will spell them all out.
You also need two adaptors to make these work with regular microphone
holders.
Lastly about this time last year we had EXTENSIVE discussion on the differences
between the stands.. I suggest scanning the archives. I also posted a chart
with all the light-weight stands by model number with all the relevant info and price.
I don't have time to dig it up right now.. but you should be able to enter
BOGEN and find it easily.. if not write me back and I will dig it up.
Hawker
>Ok guys, lemme know your opinions of the following:
>Bogen or Manfrotto? The Bogen is 17' and the Manfrotto only 13', but the
>Manfrotto is "air cushioned", whatever that means. Only $10 in price
>difference.
From: "Rob Bertrando" <rbbert@earthlink.net>
Subject: HHb 90 meter tape
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 08:11:48 -0700
Hate to bring this up again, but HHb sells a 90 meter "DDS" tape for use in
its "pro" DAT decks. Also, a quote from their booklet "A Guide To Choosing
and Using Digital Audio Recording Media"..."The only advantage of using DDS
tapes in a DAT recorder is that a DDS90 tape will allow 180 minutes of audio
recording. However, DDS tapes are much thinner and not so reliable when
spooling and playing at high speeds."
From: Ernie Voegtlin <crpediem@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Maxell HS/4 Series Observation
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 11:42:38 -0400
Hey y'all. I've noticed in all recent batches of Maxell HS/4
Series (both the 60 & 90m) I've encountered that there is a fine
white particle dust lightly spread over the cartridge. I was curious
if anyone else had come across this & what their thoughts may
be on potential causes or damage factors.
I have stopped using them myself, preferring to err on the side
of caution. The ones I receive in trade, I religiously wipe down
before each use(as it does seem to re-accumulate somewhat).
My obvious concern is that this "dust" is not only on the outer shell,
but finding its way inside to potentially affect the tape as well. Am I
just too paranoid for my own good or do you feel this to be a
legitmate cause for worry?
I welcome any input either privately or via a reply posting &
thank you for the bandwidth.
Ernie V
From: "Dave Dawkins" <digit@win.bright.net>
Subject: Looking for 2/16/72
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:46:14 -0500
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Garcia, Saunders, Kahn, Kreutzman
Feb. 16, 1972
KSAN, San Francisco
I was introduced to an analog copy of this fine show in the car on the =
way home from the Neil Young show last night and was amazed!
Does anyone have a nice copy on DAT of this performance that I could do =
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Thanks,
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From: Bill Mitchell <bill.mitchell@sabre.com>
Subject: Maceo Parker
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 17:26:29 +0100
Did anyone tape Maceo Parker in London Friday night at the Forum? Went
but have yet to get mics, would love a copy.
Also, anyone in UK interested in doing B+P for a newbie. Have 150 cdrs,
just got a DAT recorder. Would love to get some stuff to listen to.
It's tough starting over...
thanks
bill mitchell
From: Erik Spring <espring@calpoly.edu>
Subject: EXTRA: Phil 4/16 set2
Reply-To: espring@calpoly.edu
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:16:49 -0700
Sub. says it all. I only have an extra of set 2 though. Just send a 60m
and return postage and it's yours.
--Erik
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From: Csberend@aol.com
Subject: Looking to get rid of phish tape
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:23:53 EDT
I want to get rid of 11.18.98 which is on a 90m tape...
I will do a trade for any other show on 2x120's.
This was done on schoeps mk-41-sonasax-teac.
Craig
From: Bill Shaw <bshaw@skyway.com>
Subject: ISO: Garbage
Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:47:43 -0700
Time to take out the trash, or take IN the trash, as GARBAGE is on tour again in
Europe...
Please all European tapers (DAT, MD, etc) let me know if you have any Garbage
shows. Many high quality Garbage masters for trade. Thanks!
shark@skyway.com
--
-Bill
GARBAGE TOUR DATES:
20 May 99 Aini Stadion Slavie - Prague, Czeck Rupblic
21 May 99 Rock Im Park - Nurnberg, Germany
22 May 99 Rock Am Ring Festival - Nurnbergring, Germany
http://www.stud.uni-siegen.de/joerg.schwille/
24 May 99 Spodek Festival - Katowice, Poland
28 May 99 Palacio de los Deportes - Grenada, Spain
29 May 99 Bullring - Murcia, Spain
30 May 99 Polideportivo Anoeta - San Sebastian, Spain
13 June 99 RAI Parkhal - Tibetan Freedom Concert - Amsterdam, The Netherlands
15 June 99 Bitan 11 - Tel Aviv, Israel
16 June 99 Bitan 11 - Tel Aviv, Israel
17 June 99 University - Be'er Sheva, Israel
19 June 99 Festival - Imola, Italy
22 June 99 Laugardalls - Reykjavik, Iceland
01 July 99 Princes St. Gardens - Edinburgh, Scotland
03 July 99 Ooserpoort - Groningen, The Netherlands
06 July 99 Quart Festival - Kristiansand, Norway
09 July 99 Midtfyn Festival - Midtfyns, Denmark http://www.mf.dk/
10 July 99 Jazz & More Festival - Hamburg, Germany
11 July 99 Highfield Festival - Erfurt, Germany
14 July 99 Rockwave Festival - Athens, Greece
16 July 99 Kapi Kredi Festival - Istanbul, Turkey
17 July 99 Beach Festival - Zeebrugge, Belgium
18 July 99 Superbock - Lisbon, Portugal
20 July 99 Les Voix Du Gaou - Six Four, France
21 July 99 Paleo - Nyon, Switzerland
22 July 99 Old Castle - Singen, Germany
24 July 99 St. Noiffs - Vannes, France
25 July 99 Warsteiner - Duisburg, Germany
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