DAT-Heads Digest #984
Contents:
ISO Apogee AD 1K (Brian Singer)
05/29/99 Philly Ratdog (Europe90@aol.com)
PAL/NTSC (Beast914@aol.com)
Etymotic research ER-4S canalphones (Jeffrey Silberman- SurroundWorks(tm))
ISO Springsteen in Europe (Music Arcade)
Re: PAL/NTSC (Seth Breidbart)
Re: 2 questions from a newcomer.... (Seth Breidbart)
Re: Etymotic headphones (randy@monkeybiz.Stanford.EDU)
gogos at maritime hall, july 7 '99 (GaoBest@aol.com)
A fair comparison (was Apogee Envy) (Scott Olsen)
red hot chili peppers on austrailian radio ("jesse volner")
Re: R300 Problem (tcp) (Jim Fong)
Sony A6 (augwest@telepath.com)
CD-R Question (Ryan Ellingson)
Re: gogos at maritime hall, july 7 '99 (Seth Breidbart)
DMB trade sought (baker106@juno.com)
Re: A fair comparison (was Apogee Envy) (Seth Breidbart)
TAPER NEEDED: TANGERINE DREAM and OSNAMBRUEK E-MUSIC FESTIVAL (Francisco Salgado)
Scofield B&P (Jonas)
More BellAtlantic JazzFest Groveling ("Rich880")
ISO DAT Trades ("T M.")
Tortoise/Tom Ze (Edward B McGrath)
new products for portable recorders from The DAT Store ("Gary Davis")
From: Brian Singer <BJS6466@ritvax.isc.rit.edu>
Subject: ISO Apogee AD 1K
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 22:13:02 -0400
Anyone?
Thanks
Brian Singer
bjs6466@rit.edu
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From: Europe90@aol.com
Subject: 05/29/99 Philly Ratdog
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 22:56:15 EDT
Just came back from the Ratdog show at Penn's Landing in Philly.
No taping equipment was allowed into the show. Those who where able to sneak
it in or get it over the fence eventually got busted and escorted out of the
show by Philly's finest...( the man in blue).
So.. while I was envious of those who got their equipment in to the show I
continued to do my stealth sonic studios recording standing immediately next
to the sbd, dead ctr. about 75 away from the stage. the tape came out great.
Any trade requests should me made to me privately. I am looking for Ratdog,
Bruce Hornsby, Gov't Mule, and Little Feat ONLY.
chris
From: Beast914@aol.com
Subject: PAL/NTSC
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 23:00:37 EDT
Alfredo asked:
"I was wondering if in USA are sold NTSC deck that can play PAL"
Of course there are!! This is America! You can buy anything!! The cheapest
deck that I know to do this is Aiwa's unit. It only does PAL/NTSC
conversions both ways and it does an OK (not great) job of converting. Its
about $600.00 US.
D
From: Jeffrey Silberman- SurroundWorks(tm) <ambisonx@well.com>
Subject: Etymotic research ER-4S canalphones
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 20:52:09 -0700 (PDT)
I sell them for $280/set with a 30 day money back guarantee
See //www.stickman.biology.ucla.edu/~dan/earwear/
Jeff Silberman
From: tsemans@hargray.com (Music Arcade)
Subject: ISO Springsteen in Europe
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 00:02:14 -0400
I have been completely shut out of dats from this tour.
Can *anyone* assist me? I have hundreds of hours of dats - some Bruce,
lots of Dylan and Neil Young, plus many of other artists. I also plan to
tape at the Meadowlands, so if there's a kind soul out there who could help
me out, it would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom
"You reach a certain age where you're not waiting for the man you're gonna
become... you better start being the man you want to be."
- Bruce Springsteen
website @ http://www.mindspring.com/~tsemans/musicarcade.html
From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: PAL/NTSC
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 00:47:06 -0400 (EDT)
> Alfredo asked:
> "I was wondering if in USA are sold NTSC deck that can play PAL"
>
> Of course there are!! This is America! You can buy anything!! The cheapest
> deck that I know to do this is Aiwa's unit. It only does PAL/NTSC
> conversions both ways and it does an OK (not great) job of converting. Its
> about $600.00 US.
A year or two ago there was a Radio Shack deck that would play PAL (I
don't know about other formats, or recording) that listed for $500.
Seth
From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: 2 questions from a newcomer....
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 00:56:09 -0400 (EDT)
> 1- I just bought a casio da-r100, and I''m using it to record local bands
> from a sbd patch....these boards are really hot, I am finding that I need to
> set my line in at 3-4 or 5 to keep from clipping... everyone is talking about
> atenuator cables...what are they, and how do they work???
They have built-in anti-amplifiers to lower the sound level.
> I bought a monster
> rca>1/8 to use for my input, so do they make thick atenuator cables???
They make attenuator connectors (just the attenuation part,
male-female, no length of cable included) that you can use with your
cables.
> does the cable guage make that big of a difference??
How long, and what gauge? Try a listening comparison. (The answer
is, probably not, if everything is within reason.)
> (i know it does to an extent,
> but what about thinner atenuator cables vs.monster cable with low levels to
> prevent clipping???
If you need to set the level too low (exactly what number that is
depends on the deck), you're better off with attenuator cables.
> 2. when recordingin lp, 32 khz with 94m tapes, the time remaining display
> shows about 1hr, 53min...shouldn't it be about 180 min, or 3hr???
Time remaining is seldom that accurate. Also, at LP, ATIME runs at
half speed (increasing by 1 second every 2 seconds of clock time).
Seth
From: randy@monkeybiz.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Re: Etymotic headphones
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 23:40:49 -0700 (PDT)
i've had a set for a few years now and in a normal (non-concert) setting
the volume i can get on my d3 or m1 while out on the road is loud enough
that i wouldn't bother with picking up a headroom amp just so i can
blast away my eardrums....
...and wearing over the ear hearing protection to cut out room noise
when using them at a show seems a bit healthier than turning up the volume...
-rand0m
From: GaoBest@aol.com
Subject: gogos at maritime hall, july 7 '99
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 03:01:42 EDT
hey everyone
is anyoen going to tape the GoGos show at Maritime Hall (San Francisco) on
July 7? I am going but don't want to tape because I want to be near the
front, because I've wanted to see the GoGos since 1983 but have never gotten
around to it for reasons I can't fathom. so if someone else plans to go and
tape, please email me to let me know, otherwise i'll have to deal with taping
it... and i'm very bad at sneaking in extra blank DATs, i'm not sure if the
"it's for work, it's a data cartridge" argument will work every time. anyway
i would just appreciate it, and i may have something you'd like for trade...
and if anyone plans to tape the LA and other US dates, please let me know,
thanks very much!
ciao
mike
From: Scott Olsen <scott_olsen@yahoo.com>
Subject: A fair comparison (was Apogee Envy)
Reply-To: so16@prism.gatech.edu
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 01:21:51 -0700 (PDT)
<--major header snippage -->
>>Actually this is really wrong ... first off, the pre-amps in the
>>Lunatec are WAY better than the ones in to AD1000, so getting rid of
>>it is actually a downgrade in your system.
>You wouldn't be saying that if you heard the results. ;-)
> I have heard just about all of Tom's test tapes. The results are
>conclusive. I liked the straight Apogee tapes much better. And I've
>been a big proponent of the V2 in the past. However, I've changed my
>tune a little bit.
>Thanks,
>Bill Gardner
Ok, I re-read what I wrote and what all you you have been saying and I
did realize something really stupid (mostly my part)....it's hard to
compare tapes unless they are recording the same source (band),
recorded exactly the same way, listened to on the same system, in the
same room. The brand of tape might also play some small factor in
this, I doubt it, but you would want the same brand of tape just to
make sure.
Now, I will grant you this, if you can't tell the difference on your
system (or you even think the Apogee is better), then you're right ...
don't get the V2. It's a waste of money for you. I also realize this
will probably be a majority of the people out there. So see if you can
listen to some comparisons before you buy. But I promise you if you
listen to a perfect side by side comparison on some high end speakers
you'll notice the difference. I got to do that in a hell of a control
room equipped with some Wilson X1 Grand SLAMM's and the difference was
obvious. I know of a person working in a high end shop who will help
me run the test on a pair of German Physiks Borderland's soon and I'll
tell you the result's of that if you care to know. But even using a
pair of Mackie HR824's I could tell which tape was which, although the
difference wasn't as dramatic. In fact it was almost slight. So it
all just depends on what you are going to be doing with the tape and
where you are listening to it. I would just encourage if the tape is
going into production, please use a really good pre-amp, like the V2 or
others. Better safe than sorry. BTW - if anyone is basing their info
by listening to it on a set of Bose...then you don't count and should
have all your DAT equipment taken away from you for having a Bose in
the first place.
>If ya'll like Apogee so much I suggest you get inside one of the newer
>units and find out what it needs inside for DC. My guess is you could
>use a 12V battery and a switcher to make the -12V firing it that way..
>It probably has 5V and 3.3V regulators inside to make the 12V 5V/3.3V
>for the MPU/FPGA etc.
Currently there is no portable Apogee products to do this. Who wants
to help me lobby for a "Rosetta Jr." that will run DC and be about
1/3rd the size of a Rosetta? I'd be willing to part with a fair chunk
of change for that. You know...get rid of some of the excess
interfaces but keep the 96/24 converter and I'd be one happy camper.
Oh yeah, while I'm out to dream up the perfect portable equipment, how
about a portable 96/24 DAT under $5000. Neumann/DPA-type quality mics
under $700 a piece. And I want a pony Santa...oops...got carried away
there in my dreams.
Now the insomniac sleeps,
Scott
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From: "jesse volner" <mentholiptus@hotmail.com>
Subject: red hot chili peppers on austrailian radio
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 06:01:58 PDT
Can ANYONE get this on DAT?
chili peppers and hendrix CDrs and DATs to trade + I know many other people
who would dip into their collection for this!
the interview is done by Tripple
J and they are gonna play the whole interview plus other little
interviews ,live songs, rare songs plus a ring in
trivia quiz, its 3 hours of RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS!.
www.abc.net.au/triplej
the friendly ghost
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From: Jim Fong <jf@jade.dtc.hp.com>
Subject: Re: R300 Problem (tcp)
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 06:28:18 -0700
I had a tape jam in my R300 recently too. Called Terrapin Tapes and
they suggested powering off the unit for a while, then powering it on
while holding the eject button down. It worked for me.
--
Jim Fong
Sunnyvale, CA
From: augwest@telepath.com
Subject: Sony A6
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 10:42:54 -0500
Howdy Doobie One and All!
I have just picked up a Sony A6 home dat deck from my local
pawn shop..it seems to be working fine, but there was'nt a manual.
Is there anything I need to know that I won't be able to finger out?
Or should I hunt around for a manual?...and can anyone point me toward a
source for the manual..I'll ask about cables later...
Thanks,
Jeff M.
Okla. City
From: Ryan Ellingson <rellings@earthlink.net>
Subject: CD-R Question
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 08:52:43 -0700
Hey All,
Last night I was having dinner with a couple of friends and one
claimed that the faster you burn a CD, on computer,the lesser the
quality. I find him to be bull shitting me but I am not sure. Anyone
else have any thoughts on this notion, possibly a reason for this myth
if it is a myth?
Take it easy
Ryan
From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: gogos at maritime hall, july 7 '99
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 13:38:02 -0400 (EDT)
> and i'm very bad at sneaking in extra blank DATs, i'm not sure if the
> "it's for work, it's a data cartridge" argument will work every time.
That's what the "Thursday offsite backup" label is for. (Of course,
it helps to be wearing a suit and carrying a briefcase so it's obvious
you're coming straight from work.)
Seth
From: baker106@juno.com
Subject: DMB trade sought
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 14:11:06 -0400
I have a very nice sounding DAT master of 5/26/99 Giants Stadium. Taped
from the side of the stage, 5th row, CSB>D8. Would like to trade for the
previous night (5/25) and would also be interested in Foxboro Stadium
5/29.
thanks for the help,
Kevin Baker
Albany, NY
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From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: A fair comparison (was Apogee Envy)
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 14:08:12 -0400 (EDT)
> But I promise you if you
> listen to a perfect side by side comparison on some high end speakers
> you'll notice the difference. I got to do that in a hell of a control
> room equipped with some Wilson X1 Grand SLAMM's and the difference was
> obvious.
Did you know which was which before you listened? Did you try a
double-blind A/B/X test? (I'm still trying to set that up: same mics,
same stand, 3 setups: Apogee only, Apogee + Lunatech, Apogee maybe +
Lunatech (sometimes with, sometimes without). You get 3 tapes, and
have to say when the Lunatech is in and when it's out on the third.)
Seth
From: Francisco Salgado <fsalgado@ctv.es>
Subject: TAPER NEEDED: TANGERINE DREAM and OSNAMBRUEK E-MUSIC FESTIVAL
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 20:49:06 +0200
PLEASE
If anyone of you happen to be at Osnambruek, Germany next week.end,
plese tape the shows, specially Tangerine Dream who is playing a
completely new show: Mars Polaris, Based on the NASA spaceship to Mars.
I'll trade or even organyze a tree if the seed is provided.
Regards
francisco
From: Jonas <jlb20@acpub.duke.edu>
Subject: Scofield B&P
Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 17:29:55 -0400
John Scofield Quartet
3/13/99 Ziggy's, WInston-Salem, NC
AKG480+ck61>Beyer MV100>DAP1
on a Maxell 90M. Just burned to CDR and don't need the original.
I'd like a Sony or Maxell 60M in return. I will not accept any form of 90M
tape, however.
Thanks.
-Jonas
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From: "Rich880" <rich880@tmlp.com>
Subject: More BellAtlantic JazzFest Groveling
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 15:24:53 -0400
Will anyone be taping any of the following Bell Atlantic Jazz Fest shows:
John Zorn's Masada:
Tuesday, June 8 8pm Angel Orensanz Foundation New York
John Zorn's Masada:
Tuesday, June 8 10pm Angel Orensanz Foundation New York
Zorn, Laswell, Frith & Lombardo:
Wednesday, June 9 8:30pm Seaport Atrium New York
(the Boredoms are also playing this night at the Atrium)
I am especially interested in the Zorn/Laswell/Frith/Lombardo show.
I taped Masada at the Sommerville Theatre last night D7>CSB. Would love to
setup a trade for any of the above shows.
There a a ton of other great gigs going on at the Festival, check out the
lineup at: http://www.jazfest.com
Thanks for the B/W
-Rich
From: "T M." <rmplurker@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO DAT Trades
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 14:40:42 -0500
Hey DH & FOC
I have access two a second Dat deck for a few weeks and I looking to set up
some trades. I'm mostly looking for String Cheese Incident 99 & any New
Orleans Jazz Fest 99 related show. I'm especially looking for the super
jam @ Holwn Wolf 5/1/99. But I will consider other offers. The most recent
show I have on hand are SCI 4-25-99, 4-29-99 & 5-1-99. Get in touch if you
interested in getting any of those shows.
T M.
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From: Edward B McGrath <sac19854@saclink.csus.edu>
Subject: Tortoise/Tom Ze
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 13:31:09 -0700 (PDT)
Hi all-
Just wondering if anyone out there was able to record any of the shows.
If you did please get in touch with me. I have a lot to trade. Also,
did anyone record their performance on KCRW last Thursday? I'd really
love to get a copy- thanks for the bw- take care- Barin
From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com>
Subject: new products for portable recorders from The DAT Store
Reply-to: gdavis@loop.com
Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 15:15:44 -0700
The DAT Store is pleased to announce we are now dealers for the
MD Reporter and MD Reporter Junior. Basically, these devices
attach to your portable DAT or MD recorder, and give it the
input/output capabilities of a professional recorder.
The larger MD Reporter fits "around" your portable, and the
combined units look and acts more like a DA-P1. The MD
Reporter Junior fits under your recorder, like a SMB-1. Both
models offer the following features:
High-quality mic preamps with XLR inputs and 48V phantom power.
Line inputs on XLR jacks /w +4 level (perfect for sbd recording)
Improved headphone amp with 1/4" jack.
Stereo/Mono switching (record /w one mic on both channels).
The full-size MD Reporter has these additional features:
Built-in monitor speaker.
Built-in rechargeable battery also powers your recorder.
Both units come with rugged, high-quality carrying cases to
transport the combined unit (your recorder & these "reporters") in
the field.
The DAT Store is pleased to offer these new products at a
significant discount from the recommended prices.
MD Reporter: ($679.99) DAT Store price: $584
MD Reporter Junior: ($349.99) DAT Store price: $294
Any questions? email me at gdavis@loop.com, or
phone the DAT Store at (310) 828-6487
Thank you,
--Gary
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