DAT-Heads Digest #989
Contents:
Blank CDR's (benjamin cho)
DA-P1/EcoCharge Incompatability problem (TMSDAT@aol.com)
Ominous Seapods for Trade or B/P... (LVJARVY@aol.com)
KlangArt (Francisco Salgado)
MOTU 2408/r500 problem (jesse volner)
D-100 FS (bilner@aol.com)
ISO Gear... ("Christopher and Anne Gillespie")
FS: Prodif 32 (SusanHAI@aol.com)
Gina issues from the horses mouth (Hawker)
Reply to: 8X silver/silver discs ("Charles M. Quinn")
Pre-Amp A/B Comparison ("adam smith")
ISO: Nik Kershaw...is anything out there? (Mattwillia@aol.com)
ISO: Ben Folds Five Raleigh, NC 5/27/99 (The Ritz) (George Carson)
Roger Waters ("John Saltsman")
ISO: Neil Young San Antonio and Houston 1999 (THB)
CD-heads list (Mark McHarg)
ISO Crazy_diamond@webtv.net (MLavallee@aol.com)
Help Others! (thinkbignow@bigfoot.com)
EXTRAS: Two Alpine Valley tix... ("Christopher and Anne Gillespie")
Anyone have HFStival '99? (H Scott Matthews)
Anyone taping the upcoming Tom Waits shows? (Kkc414@aol.com)
Need tapers for 4 upcoming Bruce Hornsby shows (jflannery@excite.com)
ISO weir/wasserman 6/08/99 taper (Scott G Koerner)
From: benjamin cho <bcho1@students.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Blank CDR's
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 15:30:25 -0500 (CDT)
Hi all,
What is the cheapest price going for the HHb CDR's? Also, how about for
the 80 min. discs that are out now? Anyone have a preferred brand for
these? Please reply privately.
Thanks!
Ben
bcho1@students.uiuc.edu
(Sorry for the no DAT content)
From: TMSDAT@aol.com
Subject: DA-P1/EcoCharge Incompatability problem
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 17:37:09 EDT
Anyone know the cheapest way to portably power my DA-P1 now that Paul P.
confirms that the Eco Charge unit is not compatible with the DA-P1 - since it
only provides 6 volts and not the 7(+?) volts needed for proper operation?
Anyone have the phone number for EcoCharge?
-Tom
From: LVJARVY@aol.com
Subject: Ominous Seapods for Trade or B/P...
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 18:24:55 EDT
Hey all you Freaks.....Out of the Woodwork they Come.....
I got a few shows I mastered and a few I traded to redistibute. I dont
listen to them anymore and want to let them get some use and also get some
new tapes or Blanks for myself. I have...
Ominous Seapods
10-13-95 Geenva, NY ALL 60m DSBD-digital
copy
8-7-98 LAS VEGAS, NV ALL 2x60m DSBD>MasterDAT-DA30MK2
8-8-98 LAS VEGAS, NV ALL 2x60m DSBD>MDAT-DA30MK2
8-9-98 LAS VEGAS, NV ALL 2x60m DSBD>MDAT-DA30MK2
10-30-98 LAS VEGAS, NV ALL 2x60mMasterDatNEUMANS>NAKD/A>D8
10-31-98 LAS VEGAS, NV ALL 2x60m MDatNEUMANS>NAKD/A>D8
Email me if you are interested...Peace and thanks for the bandwith...Joel
From: Francisco Salgado <fsalgado@ctv.es>
Subject: KlangArt
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 00:29:12 +0200
Hi
the info about KlangArtfestival in Osnambruek, Germany had an error. The
event will take place from 10 to 13 june, 1999; being Tangerine Dream
concert on saturday 12th.
Please, if some european taper is willing to go there, please tape
tangerine Dream and it's unedited work Mars Polaris.
I'll trade for the item or organize a tree.
Tangerine Dream is a German group pioneer of electronic music being in
business for 31 years and having published over 100 LP's/CD's.
for info about this festival go to:
http://www.klangart.osnabrueck.de/
regards and happy taping
---francisco
From: jesse volner <mentholiptus@hotmail.com>
Subject: MOTU 2408/r500 problem
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 15:49:59 PDT
Hey all, I can't get a signal into my 2408 from my r500 VIA the spdif
inputs. Anyone use this setup?
jesse
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From: bilner@aol.com
Subject: D-100 FS
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 19:39:34 EDT
Low-mileage, mint-condition, all accessories and original packaging $500 OBO.
References available:
http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=billwilner
From: "Christopher and Anne Gillespie" <dizziness@interlync.com>
Subject: ISO Gear...
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 19:50:48 -0500
Looking for somewhere to purchase any or all of the following items:
FM Acoustics Class Amp FM-1 Mic Pre-amp
Apogee AD-1000
MIT Microphone interconnects
MIT Z-Center and Z-Cord II power cables
Prism Audio D/A converters
Milennia Media HV-3B Microphone preamp
Older Neumann tube gear (U47, M50, etc.)
Thanks in advance!
chris
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Chris Gillespie (dizziness@interlync.com)
http://www.curf.edu/~crf_gillesc/
From: SusanHAI@aol.com
Subject: FS: Prodif 32
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:11:55 EDT
FS: SEK'D Prodif 32
full digital 32 bit PCI i/o card (16, 24 & 32 bits capability)
coax and optical i/o and adaptable to xlr
SCMS defeatable
converts sample rate(s) "on the fly"
full duplex allows for playback monitoring
installation was easy with no problems
purchased a month ago but rarely used
for more info go to www.sekd.com
$275 (cost $400ish new) plus shipping
reason for selling: I'm just not going the computer cd-r route as I am happy
with DAT at home and analog in my car.
I also have Red Roaster 24 for sale if anyone's interested since I won't be
using that as well. This program is full of phatty features for cd burning.
See the SEK'D website for more details on these products at www.sekd.com
thanks,
Patrick
From: Hawker <Hawker@Connriver.net>
Subject: Gina issues from the horses mouth
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 22:20:33 -0400
Howdy folks.
I recently read in a DAT-Heads circulating Word Doc that the Gina card
adds dither if reading 16 bit data. I must say I was rather shocked to read
this, but it explains what I have been hearing.
Since I own a Gina card I contacted Event.. who were worthless, to confirm this.
Event has not returned any of my E-mails.
I am now having a VERY nice conversation with ECHO (who designed the card,
Event just markets it) that i thought I would forward to all those interested.
For what its worth I have found my Gina card a good card for SPDIF in.
Since i have better out-board A/Ds I have never used the Analog IO
for anything other than simple monitoring ,and can't report on that.
It has three problems (other than this dither issue) that I have found.
1) It only runs on Win 95/98. Since I use NT 4.0 SP3 for everything else
I had to create a dual boot to use it. i sure whish the had NT drivers.
2) Switching sync from internal to external is a pain in the neck.
The switch is VERY buried down in a windoz system control panel.
If you set to internal sync (which you need to receive SPDIF without pops and clicks)
and want to monitor what you are working on external via the SPDIF out you
must have a DAT deck or other SPDIF generator connected in... that or switch to internal sync.
3) They drivers it came with suck, and don't have full monitoring capability.
However a trip to Events web page to download new drivers fixed that.
Other than that the device has worked fantastic with no weird problems, overruns
or anything else. From the weird problems folks report with other cards I can
only assume this is a more stable card than most in it's class.
>Dear Mr. Schaich-
>
>Yes, if you record from Gina's S/PDIF input in 16 bit mode, Gina will
>treat the S/PDIF signal as 24 bits and add dither noise before
>converting to 16 bit samples.
>
>We apologize if this is inconvenient. On our end, we will look into
>adding a feature that would let you turn this off.
>
>For the time being, it is possible for you to use the Cool Edit Pro
>(Special Edition) that came with your Gina to do this. Record from the
>Gina S/PDIF inputs in 32 bit mode, then use Cool Edit to convert to 16
>bit format (make sure and uncheck the dither option in Cool Edit).
>While I realize that this is not as satisfactory as being able to bring
>samples into Sound Forge, it will at least let you capture perfect,
>bit-for-bit S/PDIF.
>
>Matt Gonzalez
>Echo
>
Parts of other E-mails
>> 2) Could you describe the dither? Shape? #bits, filter response etc?
>
>It's a simple TPDF dither.
>> 3) IMHO the dither issue is costing you LARGE sales numbers..
>> I for one would not had bought the GINA if I knew about that then as my number
>> one use is to import my DATS for editing to CD. I want in exactly what I recorded, nothing else.
>> If I wanted Dither I would have used UV22 when I printed to DAT in the first place anyway so now
>> I end up with dither x2.
>> A switch to disable dither would be Highly desirable. Is there perhaps a bit in a EEPROM or the GAL
>> I could change, or a register.. or is it more difficult than that?
>
>No, it's a DSP code and driver change. I'll look into it.
Hawker
From: "Charles M. Quinn" <cmquinn@primenet.com>
Subject: Reply to: 8X silver/silver discs
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 18:13:54
>From: Peter Klausner <PeterK@saleslogix.com>
>Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 15:16:38 -0700
>If you're talking 8X, you're probably looking at Advanced Pthalocyanine
>disks. Pthalocyanine is nearly clear so the reflective layer (silver or
>gold) will show through. I believe Ricoh Platinum, Mitsui Toatsu, and Taiyo
>Yuden use Advanced Pthalocyanine dye.
>Man, We're going to need a CD-Heads list soon.
There is such a list, and I might suggest that a lot of the questions here
are more appropriate there.
http://cdr.navpoint.com/
Charles
From: "adam smith" <adaml@lanset.com>
Subject: Pre-Amp A/B Comparison
Reply-To: adaml@lanset.com
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 19:24:27 -0700
This idea might be technically flawed but I thought I'd put it out there
anyway. Why not use 1 pair of mic's, B&K, Schoeps, Geffell's etc. Run
them into a phantom supply. Out of the phantom and into a patch bay or
construct a "splitter y cable" (would soldering two different cables to
a single XLR create impedance problems??) and then run 1 set to 1 pre
amp and the other to another. Comparing Sonosax, Lunatec, Apogee, Oade
etc. Then route the signal from the pre amps to 2 decks of the same
model. This way you would have the same signal feeding both pre's (in
theory) Like I said I'm not sure if this would work but if you could
feed the signal from 1 pair of mic's into different pre amps I think
that would be the best way to compare the difference between pre amps.
My .02 don't know if it is feasible though.
Adam
From: Mattwillia@aol.com
Subject: ISO: Nik Kershaw...is anything out there?
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 22:40:53 EDT
Greetings all,
I was wondering if there was any live Nik Kershaw (UK pop star from the 80's)
out there? I'd love to find a DAT or two.
Have lots to offer in trade!!
Thanks for the BW...
Matt
From: George Carson <rudy@email.unc.edu>
Subject: ISO: Ben Folds Five Raleigh, NC 5/27/99 (The Ritz)
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 23:12:23 -0400 (EDT)
Just seeing if anyone taped this show. I have quite a few shows to trade
for anyone that did. Thanks, George
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"Is somethin' wrong?" she said. Of course there is. "You're still
alive?" she said. Oh, but do I deserve to be? Is that the question? And
if so, if so, who answers, who answers? I'm, whoa, I'm still alive.
-E. Vedder
From: "John Saltsman" <salts007@gte.net>
Subject: Roger Waters
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 00:15:13 -0400
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From: THB <tbugsett@online.no>
Subject: ISO: Neil Young San Antonio and Houston 1999
Reply-To: tbugsett@online.no
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 11:23:34 +0200
I'm looking for high quality DAT's of these recent Neil Young shows:
San Antonio, TX 05/26/99
Houston, TX 06/01/99
Houston, TX 06/02/99
I have or have set up trades for all other 1999 Neil Young shows. These
are the only one's missing.
--
- Thor
From: Mark McHarg <MGM@symbionics.co.uk>
Subject: CD-heads list
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:36:48 +0100
> From: Peter Klausner <PeterK@saleslogix.com>
>
> Man, We're going to need a CD-Heads list soon.
We've got one:
To subscribe to the CDR mailing list:
send mail to: listserver@nt.navpoint.com
with SUBSCRIBE CDR in the body of the message
From: MLavallee@aol.com
Subject: ISO Crazy_diamond@webtv.net
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 06:45:02 EDT
Well, I posted a lil while ago looking for Ed and this is the mail I got in
response. Still haven't received my tapes, and posting through the board
seems the only way of having him get to me, so here I am...
<<hi,
Sorry, I haven't gotten back to you. My webtv no longer types so I am using
my computer
account. Anyway, I have not had the chance to check my mail a lot lately. I
am in the last
few weeks of school and have had no time for e-mail. I have your tapes ready
and will send
them out tomorrow. I am reeeeeaaallllyyy sorry about the delay. I am also
sorry I did not
get to you sooner. I really appreciate the trade and hope we can do it again
in the future.
Sorry,
Ed>>
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Subject: Help Others!
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From: "Christopher and Anne Gillespie" <dizziness@interlync.com>
Subject: EXTRAS: Two Alpine Valley tix...
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 08:14:36 -0500
I've got two Alpine Valley lawn seats I'm looking to unload at face value.
Email if interested.
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Chris Gillespie (dizziness@interlync.com)
http://www.curf.edu/~crf_gillesc/
From: H Scott Matthews <hsm@cmu.edu>
Subject: Anyone have HFStival '99?
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 09:35:35 -0400
Subject pretty much says it all. A friend taped audience but results
werent so hot. Looking for a better copy.
scott
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Assistant Head, Department of Engineering and Public Policy
Carnegie Mellon University - PH 126C
(412) 268-3645
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From: Kkc414@aol.com
Subject: Anyone taping the upcoming Tom Waits shows?
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:21:48 EDT
Subject says it all. I'd love to get recordings of the shows out in
California coming up. I'll be going to the 6/13 show at the wiltern theatre,
but I'm not sure if I'm going to tape, as it is very difficult to stealth
with AKG460's.
Kevin
From: jflannery@excite.com
Subject: Need tapers for 4 upcoming Bruce Hornsby shows
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 07:44:28 PDT
I need to find a few willing tapers to join in on the "Circle of Tapers" I
set up for Bruce's current tour. These 4 dates I have no one lined up yet.
You would be supplied a list of all successful tapers for the tour thus far
which 29 were successfully recorded. Your name would be provided to the
other tapers with the idea being that tapers can trade their shows for
others from the tour. You must be a participant in the Circle to be in the
Circle. If you have tickets to these following shows and plan on taping
please get in touch. If you wouldn't want to be a part of the Circle and
want to donate or trade the tapes privately to me-I can list myself as the
source for said shows.
Here are the 3 I need help with...
06-12-99 Riverbend Festival-Chattanooga, TN
06-17-99 Tennis Center-Indianapolis, IN (part of Jazz Fest)
06-20-99 Jazz Aspen-Aspen, CO
06-26-99 Sugarbush-Warren, VT (Ben and Jerry's One World, One Heart
Festival)
Thanks for the space and peace!
John Flannery
http://www.tapetrading.com/lists/j/f/jflannery@excite.com.html
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From: Scott G Koerner <scottyfree@juno.com>
Subject: ISO weir/wasserman 6/08/99 taper
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:46:32 -0400
If anyone is planning on taping this show at the Seaport Atrium in NYC,
please drop me a note, I would love a copy, I'll be at the show but
unable to tape it. thanx in advance.........
-scott
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