DAT-Heads Digest #991
Contents:
Can Adaptec CD go over 74 min? (noDAT content) (Fever99@aol.com)
Live Taping Gear For Sale ("Glenn")
Airplanes/Mike stands? (JFC071@aol.com)
Re: Killer DAT sale (Cassette House)
Re: Denon DTR-80P...cables...what to buy, and where in the next 24 hours? (Romain Kang)
RE: Quantegy discontinuing DDS tapes??? (American-Digital)
adv: WE TEACH SUCCESS!!! (direct.response@gte.net)
zootopia 6/4/99 (RadioPaul9@aol.com)
Lunatec & Oades users. (MODY Aashish)
DDS tapes ("Rob Bertrando")
Re: Denon DTR-80P...cables...what to buy, and where in the next 24 hours? (Seth Breidbart)
ISO: Charlie Hunter 9/13-26/98 (cohenj@ttc.com)
New D100-any info on good batteries readily available (jflannery@excite.com)
RE: Maxell's response (Gordon Gidluck)
Eco Charge->DA-p1 (marty hanlon)
[Fwd: FW: Sisters of Mercy] (Salvatore Lee)
Grovel: Mtn. Aire Phil & KVHW tapes (Bob Hardin)
From: Fever99@aol.com
Subject: Can Adaptec CD go over 74 min? (noDAT content)
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 00:46:54 EDT
I'm using the Adaptec Easy CD Creator to create my CD-Rs, but I have a few
discs to copy that run a little bit over the 74min mark.
Is there a way to override the software to go over the 74 min limit?
Thanks for any help,
Steve
From: "Glenn" <menehune@pixi.com>
Subject: Live Taping Gear For Sale
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 23:24:41 -1000
Howdy Folks, after a lot of thought and contemplation I have decided to part
with most of my live taping gear to meet some more important obligations in
my life at this time.
So here it goes...
Neumann KM 184's , clips,windscreens purcahsed new feb.1998
Sonosax SX-M2 purchased new mar. 1999
PCM-M1 w/5 year warranty and 75 hours on deck ,purcahsed new mar. 1999
SBM-1 purchased new march 1999
1 pair 15ft audio magic XLR'S
1 pair 4.5 ft audio magics XLR's (for stealth)
I will also being throwing in a t-bar, custom made XLR>RCA for the SBM and a
handful of tapes for a NEWBIE.
I have all the original boxes , accesories, and paperwork for everything and
it is all in immaculate condition. As you can see, evreything besides the
mics are only a few months old.
I DO NOT want to split this up.
I am asking $3,300 for everything. Add tapes and Batteries and you are
ready to go... thanks for the space and I hope everyone has a great weekend.
---glenn
From: JFC071@aol.com
Subject: Airplanes/Mike stands?
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 06:18:10 EDT
I have some flight time scheduled later this
month and was wondering how I should go about
getting my mike stand on board. Ideally I'd like to
just carry-on my stand and stash it overhead with
the rest of my gear. Is this the normal procedure or
will I have to check it with the rest of my luggage?
I'd appreciate a few tips from someone in the know.
Jason
From: Cassette House <artmunson@tape.com>
Subject: Re: Killer DAT sale
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 07:22:18 -0500
>From: American-Digital <dan@am-dig.com>
>Subject: Killer DAT sale
>Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 18:07:02 -0400
>
>
>Maxell HS490m ----- $159 for a 50 box (Only $3.18 each!)
>Incredible price on labeled Maxell HS490m 3 hour tapes. At $3.18
>this is the lowest price of the year. These highly reliable DATs come
>in a very handy 50 box. Great for storing blanks or even hold a part
>of your collection.
>
>3 Great Tapes, One LOW price ----- As low as $3.19
>Sony DG60P
>Maxell HS460m
>
>3 Great Tapes, One LOW price ----- As low as $3.39
>Sony DG90
>Maxell HS490m
We'll match all these prices.
Thanks
Art
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From: romain@icp.siemens.com (Romain Kang)
Subject: Re: Denon DTR-80P...cables...what to buy, and where in the next 24 hours?
Reply-To: romain@icp.siemens.com
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 06:44:39 -0700 (PDT)
You write:
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
A suggestion? Next time, try to post in plain text only -- you'll look
a little better clued.
> I need to know exactly what kind of cables I need for patching this
> unit out of the Digital I/O. I know somehow I can use the same I/O to
> give me input, and someone else output, but I am not sure exactlky
> how. It appears that I could use a standard coax cable, with a cheapo
> adapter for input, which I think would still transfer the digital
> signal when patching?, but then how would I go about sending the
> digital signal out of the same unit?
I believe this is the same as the DTR-80P's near-twin, the Casio
DA-R100. The coax port accepts a 1/8" stereo to 2-RCA cable, the same
kind that one uses to connect portable audio to home audio systems.
One of the RCAs is digital output, the other is input.
The Casio-supplied cable is actually has a Tip-Ring-Ring-Sleeve plug,
as opposed to the T-R-S plug normally found on mini to dual-RCA
adaptors. I recall that this provides separate grounds for input and
output, but in practice, the common ground seems to work OK.
One more thing. When using the DTR-80P's mic preamp, beware of
patching AC-powered Sony portable DATs, even digitally. The D3, D7,
D8, and D100 pick up a lot of hum from their AC adaptors and will send
the noise upstream to a Casio or Denon feeding them. Bleah!
Regards,
Romain Kang
romain@kzsu.stanford.edu http://www-kzsu.stanford.edu/~romain/mixed_up.html
romain@icp.siemens.com Siemens Info/Comm Products R+D, San Jose, Calif.
(formerly Pyramid Technology Corporation)
From: American-Digital <dan@am-dig.com>
Subject: RE: Quantegy discontinuing DDS tapes???
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:26:34 -0400
< Just got home from a trip to my local recording media supplier, and was horrified to learn that
< the Quantegy company, (formerly Ampex, then Ampex/Quantegy) has been sold yet again and
< is no longer going to manufacture 4mm tape formats, in either DAT or DDS grades.
[snip]
To the best of my knowledge Ampex, Ampex/Quantegy or Quantegy never manufactured any
4mm tape. They purchased from a third party. Ampex, for awhile was made by KAO. Then KAO
stopped making 4mm tape and I believe that Quantegy is now Sony tape in a different shell. The
shell is made by Shape.
I think there is currently only 4 manufacturers of 4mm tape.
1. Sony
2. Maxell
3. Fuji
4. TDK
Third party manufacturing is always a closely held industry secret. If it was common knowledge that
IGA salt was made by the same company in the same facility as Morton's salt (that costs 20% more)
that could potentially hurt Morton's sales. (What the hell, salt is NaCl, unless chem. class lied to me.)
Same holds true selling DAT tape for 30% more than DDS tape. (For one thing DAT tape pays a 15%
RIAA royalty tax.) Manufactures can easily claim there are 2 different manufacturing processes without
lying. However, the difference is probably DAT tape is made on Tues. and Thurs. and DDS tape is made
Mon., Weds., and Fri.
I have been waiting for the argument to start with computer grade CDRs vs. Digital Audio (consumer)
CDRs. I thought the RIAA would try something like "there is magic dust sprinkled on Digital Audio CDRs,
that is why you should use them and why they cost more". Also notice how they are very quickly
moving away from using the term "for consumers". I have enjoyed watching that name disappear off all
"Digital Audio CDR" packaging.
Does anyone have any additional information?
Thanks-
Dan
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From: RadioPaul9@aol.com
Subject: zootopia 6/4/99
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:47:20 EDT
Anyone doing anything with Zootopia today, Continental Airlines (Meadowlands
Arena) theshow that z100 / New York is sponsoring?
From: MODY Aashish <AMody@CBSINC.com>
Subject: Lunatec & Oades users.
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:00:28 -0400
Does anyone have any experience with Microtech Geffel M210's coupled with
the Luna V-2 or Oades pre-amp? I'm looking to purchase high quality preamp
and am looking for thoughts/recordings in regards to this set-up. I'm also
looking to run an outboard A/D- SBM or ADC-20. Any help would be greatly
appreciated. Thanx.
Aash
amody@cbsinc.com
From: "Rob Bertrando" <rbbert@earthlink.net>
Subject: DDS tapes
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:07:02 -0700
To me, this is the power of the RIAA and music industry talking. A few
years ago, as has been amply documented here and elsewhere, no one in the
industry tried to hide the fact that DDS and DAT tapes are identical (and of
course they are, by any test available, except for the leader tape). Now,
however, with industry PARANOIA about piracy, and talk of _audible_
watermarking on prerecorded media, to prevent and/or trace copies, their
official stance has changed.
One would think they (the music industry) would look at their sales figures
and realize that the explosion of technology benefits everyone, especially
them.
>>From: PBTS Support <PBTSSUPPORT@PANASONIC.com>
>>Subject: Maxell Response on DDS Tape
>>Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 16:20:41 -0400
As promised, here is the response from Maxell regarding the use of DDS tape
in DAT decks. I am expecting similar letters from Sony, Denon, Tascam and
three other tape manufacturers. I will post this info on DAT heads as it is
received.
I have converted the actual letter into a PDF file so anyone who is
interested in receiving the original letter need only e mail us and request
it.
Thanks for your continued understanding.
Bob Kozlarek
Tech Support Manager
Panasonic
Panasonic Broadcast & Television Systems Co
Mr. Bob Kozlarek
Tech Support Manager
1 Panasonic Way, 2A-3
Secaucus, NJ 07094
Dear Mr. Kozlarek:
This letter is in response to your correspondence of5/14/99.
Maxell's official position on using DDS tape in a DAT audio recorder is as
follows:
Due to design differences between the two products, we absolutely do not
endorse the usage of computer backup tape in a DAT audio deck. Prolonged
usage of this product in a DAT machine can cause damage or premature wear to
the recording heads resulting in costly repairs. In addition, any damage
caused by the aforementioned usage, would void Maxell's Full Lifetime
Warranty on the product and exclude Maxell from any liability for any
damages incurred by the misuse of this product.
In closing, no one representing Maxell Corporation of America has ever
disclosed nor endorsed the incorrect fact that these two products are
identical and can be safely interchanged.
Regards,
Rich D'Ambrise
Engineering & New Product Development Mgr.
Maxell Corporation of America
22-08 Rt. 208
>>Fairlawn, NJ 07410
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From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Denon DTR-80P...cables...what to buy, and where in the next 24 hours?
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:19:51 -0400 (EDT)
The Denon DTR-80P uses a special cable for digital IO: it has RCA
connectors at both ends, and tip-ring-ring-sleeve in the middle.
(Typical stereo 1/8" is tip-ring-sleeve.) Some people have found that
a standard 2-RCA to stereo mini cable works. Radio Shack has the
latter.
Seth
From: cohenj@ttc.com
Subject: ISO: Charlie Hunter 9/13-26/98
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 11:36:36 -0400
Looking for HQ Pound for Pound sets as opener for these Schofield double
bill dates. I am open to other Charlie tapes too (recent Duo...). I have a
few handfuls of Charlie to trade.
Thanks. Jordon
cohenj@ttc.com
From: jflannery@excite.com
Subject: New D100-any info on good batteries readily available
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 08:35:55 PDT
I just purchased the anniversary d100 and was wondering what people are
using for batteries. Are these Sony dat rechargeable batteries any better
than a top of the line Energizer alkaline? I want to find the ones with the
longest charge for the obvious reasons. I believe I'll be taping a show
with 2 sets, so I am looking for batteries that will go easy 2 hours. I
figured I'd switch them out at the break. A quick note from those that have
this machine would be much appreciated. Any tips will help. I don't think
I'll be able to order some special ones before I need to use it-so they are
gonna be your normal store ones.
Please help!
Thanks for the space and peace,
John Flannery
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From: Gordon Gidluck <ggidluck@artelco.com>
Subject: RE: Maxell's response
Reply-To: ggidluck@artelco.com
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 10:39:51 -0700
> Maxell's official position on using DDS tape in a DAT audio recorder is as
> follows:
> Due to design differences between the two products, we absolutely do not
> endorse the usage of computer backup tape in a DAT audio deck.
>
Understood. But, we in the dat-head community know better. That's
Maxell's official position, but in 1996, someone within Maxell (Mark
Okafuji, an Engineering Manager) did publish the actual specifications
comparing DDS with audio DAT proving that HS4/60 and DT-120 are
identical. Now, in 1999, rather than educate the public regarding the
actual facts, we get political statements bolstering Panasonics position
on the subject. Why aren't they standing behind their engineering mgr's
statement and reaffirming the facts and giving the customer the choice?
Gordon Gidluck
From: marty hanlon <mphmusixman@yahoo.com>
Subject: Eco Charge->DA-p1
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:16:19 -0700 (PDT)
I was the original da-p1 that eco charge saw, and one of the first
problems that Pro digital saw with regards to the incompatability. I'm
obviously not happy with Jamie or eco charge and if DA-p1 users are
thinking of a class-action law suit, maybe they'd contact me privately
I may hire a lawyer.
My deck was in the shop twice due to the incompatability problems so I
think Jamie owes us more than an apology and I think that da-p1 users
should stop using their eco charges immediately and seek some kind of
solution from eco charge.
It's obvious that these batteries are six volt and any retailer
should've known better. I was the first customer so there was no time
early on when eco charge sold anything different to da-p1 users. I've
waited to see anything about this problem here before I posted.
Is there any way to convert these batteries to some other use such as
powering a preamp or other portable??
I would rather see something positive done with these.
Any advice from you technical-types would be appreciated.
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From: Salvatore Lee <chefsal1@gateway.net>
Subject: [Fwd: FW: Sisters of Mercy]
Reply-To: chefsal1@gateway.net
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 12:51:49 -0400
Subject: Sisters of Mercy
>>A man was driving down a deserted highway, and notices a sign that
>>> reads.....
>>> SISTERS OF MERCY HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION 10
MILES
>>> He thinks it was a figment of his imagination...drives on. Soon,
he
>sees
>>> another sign which says...
>>> SISTERS OF MERCY HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION 5
MILES
>>> Realizing these signs are for real, he drives on, and sure
enough,
>there
>>> is a third...
>>> SISTERS OF MERCY HOUSE OF PROSTITUTION -
NEXT
>RIGHT
>>> His curiosity gets the best of him, and he pulls into the
driveway. On
>>> the side of the parking lots, is a somber stone building with a
sign
>on
>>> the door that reads:
>>> SISTERS OF MERCY
>>> He climbs the steps, rings the bell, and the door is answered by
a
>nun
>>> in a long black habit, who asks, "What may we do for you, my
son?"
>>> "I saw your signs along the highway, and was interested in
possibly
>doing
>>> some business".. he answers.
>>> "Very well, my son. Please follow me," says the nun.
>>> He is led through many winding passages, and soon he is very
>disoriented.
>>> The nun stops at a closed door and tells the man, "Please knock on
>this
>>> door," and leaves. The man does as he is told, and this door is
>opened by
>>> another nun
>>> in a long black habit, holding a tin cup. This nun instructs:
>>> Please place $50.00 in the cup, then go through the large wooden
door
>at
>>> the end of this hallway." He places the money in the nun's tin
cup.
>He
>>> trots eagerly down the hallway, and slips through the door,
pulling it
>>> shut. As the
>>> door locks behind him, he finds himself back in the parking lot,
>facing
>>> another small sign:
>>> Go in Peace.
>>> You have just been screwed by the Sisters of Mercy
>>
> >>
From: Bob Hardin <direwolf@psnw.com>
Subject: Grovel: Mtn. Aire Phil & KVHW tapes
Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 09:59:51 -0700
Hey Now!
The Mountain Aire Festival last weekend was incredible, but I didn't
bring my deck with me to patch the shows :-( :-( :-(
So, if anyone could help me find the Phil & Friends and the KVHW sets I
would be eternally grateful. I've got plenty to trade (Dead, Phish,
moe., Marley, DMB, ABB, Floyd) , or can do b&p. Thanks so much for your
help!
Peace and happy taping,
Bob
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