DAT-Heads Digest #530
Contents:
What decks would you get if... (Phil Johnson)
Re: OKM mics (thomas westphal)
Re: CD-R (graham@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de)
AKG 461 Power & Preamp needed ("William R. Hoy")
Sony TCD-D3 DAT: excessive (non-)service time (Peter Adamson)
Email bouncing (Kurt Kemp)
Re: Antennas (Don Borowski)
(Daniel Pepper)
Multiple Digital Connections (David Minches)
japanese dat heads (Chris Bold)
DA-P1 warming up problems. (RKB4%ERF%EbrFacErf@go50.comp.pge.com)
DAT vs. Audio Cassette (TristTom@aol.com)
Sony TCD-D3 DAT: excessive (non-)service time (Peter Adamson)
tip for posting to dat-heads (Andy Bensky)
DAT tape 150 meter length ("John R. Vanderpool")
Concerning my DAT page (David Landsberger)
Ratdog AZ show (Kurt Kemp)
Sony DTC-1000es and Sony PCM-2500 ("Wayne D. Correia")
From: Phil Johnson <pj@unlinfo.unl.edu>
Subject: What decks would you get if...
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 00:35:52 -0600 (CST)
Well, after reading the FAQs and this list for a few months, I'm about
to try to set up an audio workstation in a university multimedia
development lab (90% Mac).
I want one portable DAT (maybe D8, maybe not), and one other
(portable or not) that can manipulate or defeat SCMS.
Some clients might be using these to master CDs, such as an "auditory
stimuli" CD for research. We have a Kodak PCD-200.
I wish I could say that money's no object, but it is.
If anyone wants to try to influence my decision on what to get -
please do.
Anyone wanting to send price lists or advice or cautions can reach me
at pj@unl.edu - and I'll be most grateful.
Phil
From: thomas westphal <westphal@acc.bessy.de>
Subject: Re: OKM mics
Reply-To: westphal@acc.bessy.de
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 95 13:20:30 CET
>Can someone give me the address/phone for OKM mics in Germany?
>
>Has anyone here used their OKM-2 models?
>
>Thanks alot,
>
>Jay
Hi!
The address is:
Soundman Shop
Urbanstr. 112
D 10967 Berlin
Germany
Phone: ++49 30 6913718
I would like to know myself if the OKM mics are comparable to Core Sound's.
Thomas.
<westphal@acc.bessy.de>
From: graham@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de
Subject: Re: CD-R
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 95 14:19:21 MEZ
I just wanted to say that at the moment, it is not clear how
long CD, CD-R, DAT, MD or computer storage mediums last.
What we know is, that a LP lasts defenitly 100 years and more -
LPs from 1900 are stil playable but magnetic based mediums like
DAT, MD or even hard disc have worked out to be not as reliable
as everybody seems to think. IBM gives a warranty of - I think it
was - 5 years on there hard discs. 30 year old computer tapes from
the GDR are getting unreadable because of magnetic fields and tape
oxidation.
And nowadays we're saving much more data on a square inch than 30
years ago ! It's getting very easy to lose lots of bits.
Just give your CD some sun and the alluminium coat on the back side
will start to do some oxidations. Just a little hole in this coat
and a lot of data will be lost.
I thinks THAT is the big problem with all the digital storage.
If only some bits turns out to be bad (only one if it's compuer stuff)
the whole data can get useless. Analog tapes will still be playable
in a hundred years, but the quality may get worse (2" 24 track tapes
won't get that worse I guess).
Just my $.02.
What I wanted to point out is that I would not bet for a CD or CD-R
to be usefull in hundred or even only 15 years.
Alex
========================================================
Alexander Graham Informatik TH-Darmstadt
"You can say what you want - but it doesn't change anything."
NMA
From: "William R. Hoy" <whoy@ee.wpi.edu>
Subject: AKG 461 Power & Preamp needed
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 09:26:32 -0500 (EST)
Hi,
I have a pair of AKG 461 mics with the CK3 hypercardiod capsules. I
have some money around Christmas time, so I am looking for a good
power supply and preamp package, or just power supply package. Can
anyone suggest some products I could look into, and where they might be
found. I have heard the Oade's supply & preamp is excellent. I'd like
to look into the smallest device I can, in case it needs to be used for
stealth. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Also, is there any way you can separate the mic capsule from the mic
body? Do you need what is called the "active cable?" I thought I heard
someone say around here that those cables were tough to come by.
Thanks,
Bill
whoy@ee.wpi.edu
From: Peter Adamson <pga@st-and.ac.uk>
Subject: Sony TCD-D3 DAT: excessive (non-)service time
Date: 4 Dec 1995 15:08:52 GMT
(apologies for cross-posting -- I'm not sure where best to post this)
I am looking for advice and comments on the following problem which I
have experienced with a Sony TCD-D3 DAT machine (bought January 1992).
On 1 July I took the TCD-D3 to my local Sony Centre for service to
correct the following problems:
(a) Faltering on forward wind: towards the end of some tapes, the
machine repeatedly stopped (as though having discovered the end of the
tape) and then restarted, stopped, started etc (with much mechanical
fussing). For a short (e.g. 15min.) tape, this problem tended to occur
near the beginning of the tape (which is of course also near the end).
The problem seemed to be getting worse, and made forward winding
often effectively impossible and likely to wear out the mechanisim.
Rewind was fine, and any problem tapes were also fine on other DAT
machines I tried (including another TCD-D3). Tapes were of various
lengths (15min. to 180min.), by Maxell, Sony, TDK, HHb.
(b) The CAUTION indicator very occasionally came on when I tried to
eject a tape.
The machine was sent by the Sony Centre to their usual service company,
who decided the problem was too specialised, and in due course it was
sent to a specialist service company. In late August, I finally heard
that it needed a new head drum assembly, because the motor was found to
have an intermittent fault. Because of the great cost of this (about
* $450 *), I queried the assumption that it would cure the forward-wind
problem, but was assured that that was what was needed. And so I
reluctantly agreed to the proposed repair.
Needless to say, when I went in early October to collect the machine,
the forward-wind problem (a) remained, and so the machine was returned
to the service company forthwith, with a 15min. tape as demonstration of
the problem.
To cut a long story short: after much argument, two letters to Sony
(UK), and an unhappy hour spent demonstrating in the Sony Centre that
only 4 out of 19 tapes did NOT give the fault, we have reached an
uncomfortable deadlock. The service company currently have the machine
(with its mains power supply), and insist that it now performs to
specification; I suspect that they have never actually witnessed the
forward-wind fault, which is puzzling. I have not yet paid for the head
drum assembly replacement.
I should welcome suggestions about:
1 a possible cause of the forward wind fault (and perhaps its cure)
2 what Sony9s attitude should be towards this situation
3 what I should do next
>> I have now been without the DAT machine for OVER FIVE MONTHS <<
Peter Adamson
From: Kurt Kemp <KKEMP@ibm.mtsac.edu>
Subject: Email bouncing
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 07:11:47 PST
If any of you tried to get in touch with me over the weekend, only to see your
email bounce back to you, there was some problem with the school's main server
here, which has now been fixed. Please give 'er a 2nd try.
Peace,
Kurt
From: Don Borowski <borowski@spk.hp.com>
Subject: Re: Antennas
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 95 7:37:53 PST
BFREDKIN@cmcvax.mckenna.edu wrote:
>for picking up fm radio signals, what is the best antenna to use:
>the soft wire ones that you tape to a wall in the form of a T, or
>rabbit-ears antenna that can also be used for TV reception?
>thanks,
>BriAn
The soft wire type is a better impedance match to the FM radio.
But rabbit-ears are more easily moved to get the best reception.
But neither one is that good, since they both receive off the
broad side, and so will be picking up both the main signal and
reflections. For best results, you would want to get a multielement
FM antenna. Radio Shack used to sell them, and still may.
Donald Borowski WA6OMI Hewlett-Packard, Spokane Division
"Angels are able to fly because they take themselves so lightly."
-G.K. Chesterton
From: Daniel Pepper <dape1237@mailszrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de>
Subject:
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 15:59:12 GMT
unsubscribe
From: David Minches <dminches@voicenet.com>
Subject: Multiple Digital Connections
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 95 11:26:24 EST
What are people doing to connect several digital sources (DAT, CD, etc) into
one digital device such as an anti-jitter or D/A? Although my anti-jitter
has 3 inputs (coaxial, optical and XLR), I would prefer to feed into only
the coaxial. What are my choices?
From: Chris Bold <cbold@direct.ca>
Subject: japanese dat heads
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 1995 09:28:06 -0800
hello , i'll be visiting the Tokyo and Yokohamma areas in late dec and if
possible would like to meet up with some fellow dat heads . i'd like to know
if there are any cool shows commming to the area as well... <pollstar is
down...>
thanks in advance.
cb
From: RKB4%ERF%EbrFacErf@go50.comp.pge.com
Subject: DA-P1 warming up problems.
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 95 9:18:31 PST
I haven't had any problems with mine in this regard nor the high pitched
whine or on/off problems reported with the early models. Did have a minor
problem with a cold solder joint on the phantom power supply which was
easily fixed by the local Tascam repair shop in San Francisco. By the way
if you get a whine it may be as a result of recording with the RCA inputs
from either a outboard mike/preamp or from another source via those RCA
inputs. If you do this make sure you switch the unit to line (from the
mike or mike pad setting) and leave off the phantom power. As I recall if
you forget to do this you will get a little high frequency noise.
Perhaps the warming up problem is due to condensation on the heads...are
you bringing it from a cold area into a warm area...check for the
condensation icon on the screen that is mentioned in the instruction book.
It is a great deck thus far...excellent recordings and neat features.
Hopefully it will be trouble free down the road. By the way...this may be
useful information...the TASCAM and Fostex official repair station here in
San Francisco told me that Tascam units are a lot easier to work on than
Fostex. Fostex evidently has poor layout of boards, etc. in all of their
units. Tascam is laid out in a much better design for access. This may be
of little concern to us end users other than that you will be paying for
that more cluttered layout in labor charges during maintenance/repair
jobs.
Bob Berta
From: TristTom@aol.com
Subject: DAT vs. Audio Cassette
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 12:58:59 -0500
The salesperson at a local store told me that he believes that a pro-quality
regular audio cassette deck can sound as good as DAT. At first, I thought he
was way off base, but upon thinking about it, I thought that perhaps he was
right.
Aside from not being able to do digital, how close does cassette come to DAT
in terms of perceived audio quality?
Tristan Li Tom
From: Peter Adamson <pga@st-andrews.ac.uk>
Subject: Sony TCD-D3 DAT: excessive (non-)service time
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 15:10:06 0000
(apologies for cross-posting -- I'm not sure where best to post this)
I am looking for advice and comments on the following problem which I
have experienced with a Sony TCD-D3 DAT machine (bought January 1992).
On 1 July I took the TCD-D3 to my local Sony Centre for service to
correct the following problems:
(a) Faltering on forward wind: towards the end of some tapes, the
machine repeatedly stopped (as though having discovered the end of the
tape) and then restarted, stopped, started etc (with much mechanical
fussing). For a short (e.g. 15min.) tape, this problem tended to occur
near the beginning of the tape (which is of course also near the end).
The problem seemed to be getting worse, and made forward winding
often effectively impossible and likely to wear out the mechanisim.
Rewind was fine, and any problem tapes were also fine on other DAT
machines I tried (including another TCD-D3). Tapes were of various
lengths (15min. to 180min.), by Maxell, Sony, TDK, HHb.
(b) The CAUTION indicator very occasionally came on when I tried to
eject a tape.
The machine was sent by the Sony Centre to their usual service company,
who decided the problem was too specialised, and in due course it was
sent to a specialist service company. In late August, I finally heard
that it needed a new head drum assembly, because the motor was found to
have an intermittent fault. Because of the great cost of this (about
* $450 *), I queried the assumption that it would cure the forward-wind
problem, but was assured that that was what was needed. And so I
reluctantly agreed to the proposed repair.
Needless to say, when I went in early October to collect the machine,
the forward-wind problem (a) remained, and so the machine was returned
to the service company forthwith, with a 15min. tape as demonstration of
the problem.
To cut a long story short: after much argument, two letters to Sony
(UK), and an unhappy hour spent demonstrating in the Sony Centre that
only 4 out of 19 tapes did NOT give the fault, we have reached an
uncomfortable deadlock. The service company currently have the machine
(with its mains power supply), and insist that it now performs to
specification; I suspect that they have never actually witnessed the
forward-wind fault, which is puzzling. I have not yet paid for the head
drum assembly replacement.
I should welcome suggestions about:
1 a possible cause of the forward wind fault (and perhaps its cure)
2 what Sonys attitude should be towards this situation
3 what I should do next
>> I have now been without the DAT machine for OVER FIVE MONTHS <<
Peter Adamson
From: Andy Bensky <ab@infoseek.com>
Subject: tip for posting to dat-heads
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 12:03:38 -0800
I just read a completely useless message in a digest that said:
> If your tape came out fairly decent from last night's Cottomwood Aud. show, I'd
> be *very* interested in a quick trade. I've got quite a few of the shows from
> this year, two of which are DSBDs.
This message does not tell me very much, like who the performer(s) were,
when the show was, and where the show was.
Please people, remember that Dat-Heads is an international forum. Many
people receive (and/or read) these digests days after they come out and
often messages will be delayed for any number or reasons and days before
even making it to the digest.
Here are some tips to make your posts more generally useful to everyone:
1. Please do not use phrases such as "tonight" or "last night". Be specific
with dates.
2. Always indicate what group or performer you are talking about. There
was a time when it could be assumed that mention of a performance without
explicitly mentioning the band name would always be the Dead. With
the current expanding list readership and lack of Dead recent shows this
is no longer true.
3. Always give city & state (and country if not US) info when talking about
a particular venue. Not everyone else knows where "Cottomwood Aud." is.
I know I don't.
If you use a little common sense in writing a post then there is a much
higher chance that your post will be of interest to more people on the
list, which is what we are all after, right?
I've been seeing a lot of this lately and this last post violated all of
these simple rules. Sorry for the bandwith for those who know this stuff.
andy
From: "John R. Vanderpool" <fish@daacdev1.stx.com>
Subject: DAT tape 150 meter length
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 15:12:40 -0500 (EST)
i'm surprised w/ all the 180 meter hub-ub lately (another data point, i've
never had any problem w/ them in Fostex D5, Sony 59ES, Denon DTR80p or
a Panasonic 3700) that no one has mentioned that both TDK and Denon are selling
150 meter (2.5 hour) tapes in Japan now.
i got some of the 150 meter Denon's in a trade and they seem pretty good, nice
low error rates.
fish
--
...and I, I don't mind the pain, don't mind the drivin' rain,
I know I will sustain, because I believe in you.... -bob dylan
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From: David Landsberger <berger@david_landsberger.psych.brown.edu>
Subject: Concerning my DAT page
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 14:44:18 -0500 (EST)
Some people had reported problems with my dat page as their web browsers
couldn't find my machine. I was stuck on this one for a while, but I finally
figured out what was wrong. The machine name brown assigned me was
David_Landsberger, but apparently the internet doesn't like underscores
as parts of machine names. ALthough most machines were still able to use
it, those that were stricter about sticking to standards couldn't find it.
Anwyay, my machine (and web page) has a new name. You can now
access my dat page at http://shinbone.psych.brown.edu/berger/dat.html
Old URLs, if they worked for you before, should still work. But this new
one should work for everybody.
David
======
David Landsberger
Department of Psychology
Brown University
David_Landsberger@brown.edu
Check out my web page at http://Shinbone.Psych.Brown.Edu/berger
or my DAT page at http://Shinbone.Psych.Brown.Edu/berger/dat.html
From: Kurt Kemp <KKEMP@ibm.mtsac.edu>
Subject: Ratdog AZ show
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 95 12:23:27 PST
If a fellow taper happened to tape the Mesa amph. show on Sun with csbs or
better, I've got quite a few of the shows from the Aug/Sept tour to trade and
I'll also be taping the Wiltern and San Diego shows.
Peace,
Kurt
From: "Wayne D. Correia" <wayne@club.net>
Subject: Sony DTC-1000es and Sony PCM-2500
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 13:52:33 -0800
Hi,
This is my first posting to DATheads.
I have an ancient DTC-1000es. I have done the 44.1 analog recording mod
(D715), and I also wanted to defeat the 'PRE-SCMS COPY PROHIBIT'. As
detailed in the FAQ, I snipped D721, but I am still denied recording from
the coaxial digital inputs on the rear. My unit's serial # is 208875, and
this was originally a Japan 100v model if that helps. Anybody out there
have a clue on this one? I would love to make more use of the direct
digital inputs. Right now, I can use it as a source deck to my SONY-D3, but
not vice-versa using the coaxial digital inputs.
Also, my friend has a Sony PCM-2500. We have the same problems with the
coaxial digital inputs as above. Thankfully, there was already a switch for
48/44.1 analog recording on this one, so no mod was necessary for that, but
the COPY PROHIBIT thing is a big problem.
I would appreciate any help available.
Thanks!
______________________________________________________________________
900 Tennessee St. TEL: +1.415.826.6000 <wayne@club.net>
San Francisco CA 94107 FAX: +1.415.826.6100 http://www.club.net/
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