DAT-Heads Digest #969
Contents:
Lithium (batteries) (Yalk@aol.com)
Re: CD cleaner (Jeff Wright)
Phish grovels... (jmurphy@iastate.edu)
Help me buy a home deck (Ramasubramanian Ramesh)
extra GD DATs ("Brad G. Serling")
Used Sony D7? (Wax Estatic)
Re: dat>cdr capability in houston (harry lang)
Noel Redding BBC Scotland grovel (Mike Parker)
DAT Heads Shirt Stuck Again! ("Glenn E. White")
audio alchemy dti (American-Digital)
D5 TOC questions (Jeff)
phish's mics (Chris Mescia)
DA-20 prices (Daniel Estrin)
Re: Another Tascam DA-20 Question ("Philip S.")
Goldmine issue w/JG cover story up for grabs (Robert Moose)
ALPINE 89' Question!!!!!! (mooney)
ISO : CP-3 & CP-4 caps for NAK 300s (EMR97@uno.cc.geneseo.edu)
Selling off DAT Equipment and tapes (Bemand@aol.com)
DA-30 Question (Mike Hall)
re: CD's with digital out (KINE1@aol.com)
Re: D5 TOC questions (Seth Breidbart)
SBD Connections? (Call Me Al)
From: Yalk@aol.com
Subject: Lithium (batteries)
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:13:12 -0400
Mr. Tristan Li Tom, TristTom@aol.com
wrote:
>What do you mean by "hours and hours" how many hours exactly do you get by
using lithium batteries? How much longer do they last than regular
alkalines?
Although life is too short for me to document exactly by experiment, after a
year of using the Lithiums, I say conservatively they outlast a minimum 5 to
1 on an intermittant basis, at least 4 to 1 on a lengthy recording.
Regards,
Klay Anderson
www.klay.com
1.800.FOR.KLAY
From: Jeff Wright <gofry@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: CD cleaner
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 13:27:13 -0400
This is in response to somebody's question on the best CD cleaner. You
might think it's crazy, but the best way to clean CD's is with soap and
water. Use some kind of mild dish detergent, a soft cloth, and wipe from
the center out! I'm telling you this is the best way, it works great for
dust, dirt, and sticky liquids (like beer). Air dry.
Cheap, quick, and easy.
Jeff 'squeaky clean' Wright
From: jmurphy@iastate.edu
Subject: Phish grovels...
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:15:19 -0500
Hi
First off, i'm still trying to get ahold of a copy of Phish at Wolf Mtn. 8/2/96
Since I'm a single DAT person, i would prefer to send a new blank and return postage.
Also, i'd like to try and get a ticket for Phish in Omaha (its GA so I believe theres no
official tapers section) and Ames (which does have a tapers section).
Thanks much!
John
From: Ramasubramanian Ramesh <rramesh@dadd.ti.com>
Subject: Help me buy a home deck
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:06:58 -0500
Hi everyone:
I am new to this group and an audiophile. I am trying to get myself a DAT
home deck that will replace my old and aging Nak cassette deck. My
requirements are audiophile quality at reasonable price ($1k range) with very
good reliability. I read the FAQ and Marketposting. They are more like
reference manuals not an "intro to DAT" kind of documents (No, this is not
a criticism, just an indication of my knowledge on the subject; I greatly
appreciate someone taking the time to put together these docs.) Please advise
me on buying some DAT home decks. Here is what I have
1) A Nak BX125 cassette deck (I am trying to replace this with DAT deck)
2) A Nak MB-2 MusicBank CD player with digital output (I do not know
what kind, will find out though)
3) An Acurus R10 preamp
4) An Acurus A150 Amp
5) A pair of Von Sweikert's VR-4 speakers.
I like the following features in my DAT deck:
1) Audiophile quality (probably all are, but...)
2) Allows free copying (prefererably, no SCMS)
3) Reliable and long lasting
4) Regular RCA connectors ananogue in/out
5) Digital in and out compatible with audiophile CD's and D/A's (I don't
know what this means, but the idea is that I don't want to buy a deck
that is not going to talk to an outboard D/A (say from Audio Alchemmy)
I buy in the future)
6) price $1k range (less is ok too :-)
7) Blends with the rest of the above components
(do not want an "way too odd looking" piece)
8) Remote control highly preferable, but will not die for it.
Also, I noticed several DAT stores are referred to in the FAQ, do any of them
have a Web page? Do they send flyers out so that I can read about a particular
item before I buy it.
I live in Dallas vicinity, are there any stores that sell DAT here? if so what
brands? If possible, I like to listen to some units before I buy mine.
Thanks for all your help. This is my first posting. So, please forgive
anything I say here that is offensive to this audience (I come from
rec.audio.high-end group to this one)
If this is one of the standard question and you feel that it is unlikely that
the rest of the audience will not be interested in the answer, please send me
your response directly to rramesh@dadd.ti.com. If there is sufficient
interest, I can summarize the responses and post it as a digest here.
Ramesh
From: "Brad G. Serling" <brad@metaverse.com>
Subject: extra GD DATs
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 96 14:53:19 -0500
Hi folks.
OK, so I win the bonehead stoner tapers' award for outstanding achievement
in miss-mass-duplication.
In the process of cloning some of the Betty's for some friends (2 clones at
a time), I accidently dubbed three extras, and skipped one.
So I've got an extra copy of: 4/6/71, 3/16/73, 3/24/73. Anyone wanna do a
quick swap? Drop me a line (brad@elvis.com)
/Brad
From: Wax Estatic <eric@prolog.net>
Subject: Used Sony D7?
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 15:20:02 -0400
Hi, does anyone have a used Sony D7 recorder for sale? I'm
new to all this, and am looking to buy one. Thanks,
eric
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From: harry lang <hsl36573@bayou.uh.edu>
Subject: Re: dat>cdr capability in houston
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:08:22 -0500 (CDT)
does anyone have dat>cdr capability in the houston area? any help
appreciated.
thanks,
stuart
hsl36573@bayou.uh.edu
mbl6988@tam2000.tamu.edu
From: Mike Parker <mparker@pcez.com>
Subject: Noel Redding BBC Scotland grovel
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 13:18:09 -0700
Hello tapers,
Sorry for the grovel, but could any Dathead in Scotland tape this radio
show for a DAT newbie/ Hendrix nut?
The show is an interview with Noel Redding, will be broadcast on BBC
Radio Scotland, October 7, 22:10 to 23:00. Program is called "The Usual
Suspects". Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks very much,
Mike Parker
mparker@pcez.com
From: "Glenn E. White" <gwhite@ashland.edu>
Subject: DAT Heads Shirt Stuck Again!
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:43:16 -0400 (EDT)
Hey DAT Heads:
Many have requested the DAT Heads shirt again, but few have paid.
We're stuck at 7 paid orders with a minimum of 12 needed to place the order
with the printer.
So, if you're still interested, e-mail me for further information.
Glenn
Fever T's
PS: To Lisa in Carlsbad, I did get your check. Thanks.
From: American-Digital <amdig@tiac.net>
Subject: audio alchemy dti
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:13:49 -0400
Greetings-
Has anyone ever used audio alchemy as a way to strip SCMS?
Does it work? If yes, does anyone have their phone number.
Thanks!
From: Jeff <jeffq@got.net>
Subject: D5 TOC questions
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 15:38:30 -0700
Greetings, people. I think of myself as fairly intelligent when it
comes to VCRs, but I can't figure out how my Fostex D5 works with its TOC to
save my life. Some DATs have TOCs on them after I renum them, and some
don't. I don't understand why I don't get a TOC EVERY time I renum. I'll
give a simple scenario, and I ask for a bit of help as to why it doesn't work:
- I have a 60m DAT made (by somebody else) from 2 90-minute analog
cassette SBD masters. The S-ID/P-NO's of each song are on the DAT. This
annoys me - I prefer my DAT S-ID's to be numbered 1-4, to correspond to the
4 sides of 2 90-minute analog tapes for doing D>A.
- I S-ID search to the first S-ID, and erase it. I do this for the
rest of the S-ID's, and it takes me a very long time, but I am patient.
- I then write my own four S-ID's, one at the beginning of the
music, and one near every 45-minute interval.
- I enter a END ID at the end of the music on the DAT.
- I press the 'renumber' button and the D5 does its thing.
- I write-protect the DAT
Ok, so the DAT is all ready to do D>A, and I can program the D5 to
play any of the 4 "tunes" I've made using their P-NO, and this is great.
But, I don't see a TOC, and I can't find one. Even if I play the first
tune, nothing is read. I don't see any blinking TOC light, and the manual
is full of shit.
On other occasions, I have gotten a TOC to be read. So I figure I'm
doing something totally incorrect here. Someone please show me the error of
my ways!
Thanks,
-jeff
- Jeff Ishaq Santa Cruz, California
- jeffq@got.net http://www.got.net/~jeffq
From: cmescia@infinet.com (Chris Mescia)
Subject: phish's mics
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:08:22 -0400 (EDT)
In response to:
Let's clear this up: I was fortunate enough to get backstage after one of
the recent Phish shows, and asked Paul Languedoc about the purpose of those
"special AKG's"; he told me that they are used for an aud mix _into the
ADAT's_, and are
_NOT_ (and I specifically asked him about this point) mixed into the stereo
board mix, which is the same mix going into the 3700. There are three mics
mounted at the board: two "special" AKG C3000's and a Shure VP-88 stereo
mic. The AKG's are used as stated above, and the Shure is used to make a
separate aud recording. There is no two-track "matrix mix"; there is a _32_
track mix made of every show via the ADATs. :-)
---
So what you are saying is that Phish makes 1)a DSBD with no aud mixed in at
all, 2) a straight AUD tape with the Shure VP-88's and 3)AKG3000 aud mix'd
into a 32 track SBD tape of each show?? Seems like a bit of an overkill.
Why not just a DSBD multitrack, and an AUD copy (with much higher quality
mics)? This would let them mix it together in a studio for much better
results... Not to doubt them at all, just curious...
BTW, I heard that John Popper played at a pearl jam show within the past
week and it was killer. I also heard that the show was very windy and
rainy, with almost no aud tapes coming out with kind sound.... Is this
true, and did anyone get nice results with taping??
Thanks,
Chris
From: Daniel Estrin <daniel.estrin@chadbourne.com>
Subject: DA-20 prices
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 19:25:09 -0700
In response to WGARDNER's request for current street prices on the DA-20:
I just bought a DA-20 from Full Compass for $790 (I had to talk them down
from like $818). For $790 they agreed to pay for shipping to NYC and to
throw in 3 (or was it 5?) blank 60 meter AMPEX DATs, and, of course, no
sales tax (they're in Wisconsin). This was by far the best deal I could
find for the DA-20 so I went with it. Good luck!!
From: "Philip S." <aiko@henge.com>
Subject: Re: Another Tascam DA-20 Question
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 18:20:02 -0700
Bill,
You mentioned that the DA-30 MK II won't play 90 meter tapes. Actually,
it will.
TASCAM (like other manufacturers) counsels against the use of 90 meter
tapes. They claim that these tapes are "too thin and can cause winding
problems, crimping, wrinkling, and other damage to the tape which will
destroy your work". When they built the DA-30 MK II, they designed it
to produce an error code if you insert a 90 meter or 180 minute tape.
If it detects such a tape, all functions are disabled except for the
door open button. The trick is to fool the tape deck into believing
that you are not using a thin tape.
Every DAT has a series of holes on the bottom front edge of the tape.
Some are open and some are closed, depending on the type of tape. When
the tape is fed into your TASCAM, the deck automatically searches for
open holes to read the tape. This function is similar to the tabs on
analog tapes that tell the deck whether the tape is normal bias, chrome
or metal, and whether it is write protected.
If you've ever had to over-dub an analog tape that has the tabs punched
out of it, then you know what to do with your DA-30 MK II. Cover the
second hole from the left on the bottom of the tape with a piece of tape
label. When the deck tries to detect the thickness of the tape, it will
read it as "thick" instead of thin, and allow you to use it. The
counters on the deck will then read and write up to the full length of
the tape, just like any other deck. If you're not sure which hole is
which, read page 6 of your owner's manual. It provides a detailed
picture and description of the structure of a DAT.
My DA-30 MK II has, admittedly, crunched a couple of 90 meter tapes.
Both times that this happened, I was removing the tape without rewinding
it first. Since then, I've made a practice of always rewinding to the
beginning before ejecting a tape, and have not had a problem so far.
If you're uncomfortable with this procedure, then you can resign
yourself to not playing or recording 90 meter tapes in it. This is
unacceptable to me, so I'm willing to take what I believe to be a small
risk of damaging a DAT. If you have any other questions, feel free to
drop me a line.
Phil
From: Robert Moose <rmoose@ces.clemson.edu>
Subject: Goldmine issue w/JG cover story up for grabs
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:42:04 -0400 (EDT)
I have a copy of the Aug. 16, '96 issue of Goldmine magazine w/JG picture
on the cover and cover story titled "Th UnDead/Jerry Garcia as Sideman,
Collaborator and Solo Artist." First person to respond by email gets it.
I'll want you to send a big, SASE for me to mail it in.
Bob rmoose@eng.clemson.edu
From: mooney <emm7369@usl.edu>
Subject: ALPINE 89' Question!!!!!!
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 08:54:34 -0500
Hey Now,
I was wondering if anyone has the digital SBD Encores of this show.
There are alot of DSBDs in circulation, but no encores from what I've
seen or heard. The ...Bid U Goodnight was the first breakout in 12 years.
INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!!!!! I would love to hear them again. If some one
out their has these let's pleaseeeeee set up a trade.
Also, I'm wondering if DSBDs were released from the 10-18-88 NewOrleans
show.
Also, does anyone have the sound checks from St.Loius DEAD shows.
I believe they included: WeatherReport, It's a Man's World & Death
Don't....
Thanks for any INFO and your time------------------------------Mooney
From: EMR97@uno.cc.geneseo.edu
Subject: ISO : CP-3 & CP-4 caps for NAK 300s
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 22:16:26 -0500 (EST)
Anyone know where I might be able to find these caps. It seems like that no
one wants to let go of these since they are out of production. Any help would
be appreciated. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ERIC
From: Bemand@aol.com
Subject: Selling off DAT Equipment and tapes
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 23:00:35 -0400
Hey folks,
Do to an unfortunate financial circumstance, I am forced to sell off my DAT
taping equipment and tapes.
The list of tapes I have available is up at http://users.aol.com/bemand/
There are 200+ tapes (all are 120 minute/60 meter) that I would like to sell
for $3.50 each, or for a total of $700 (plus shipping). I prefer to sell the
tapes as a whole lot, but may break them up if I get no takers. Buy them all
and get the nice wooden cases I'm storing them in!!!
I have two Sony D7 DAT machines and a Core Sound digital cable. The D7s will
come with all original packaging, and one of them has 3 and a half years left
of an extended warranty. I prefer to sell them both to the same person, $700
for both machines and the cable (plus shipping).
I have two microphones set ups for $100 each, or $175 for both (plus
shipping). I have a pair of MarcSounds stealth mics with the batter box, and
I have an AT835 shotgun mic.
Or if some person wants to take everything off of my hands (Tapes, decks, &
mics) I will part with the whole package for $1500 plus shipping.
From: Mike Hall <myko@cybernet.it>
Subject: DA-30 Question
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:05:25 +0100
I'm getting ready to purchase this machine and am curious if anyone can tell me how it will handle 90m tapes. Thanks for the feedback
Mike
From: KINE1@aol.com
Subject: re: CD's with digital out
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 23:11:51 -0400
Hey everybody,
There have been a couple of questions about this lately. I'm sure that this
is not the best answer but I have a Sony CDP-625. It is a 5 disc changer
with optical (only) digital out. I got it in 1992 for about $350, I think.
The disc changer is probably a terrible transport but it seems to playback
fine to me and is probably a good candidate to be found in a pawn shop as one
person mentioned.
-Chip
From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: D5 TOC questions
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:31:05 -0400 (EDT)
> Some DATs have TOCs on them after I renum them, and some
>don't. I don't understand why I don't get a TOC EVERY time I renum.
I suspect it has to do with the machine the dat was originally
recorded on. Some machines initialize the tape for TOC, some don't.
Seth
From: lowfrqcy@west.net (Call Me Al)
Subject: SBD Connections?
Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:44:26 -0700
Hello DATty people!
anyway, i have a couple questions for all you...
I have a D7, just got it, and I was wondering the most convienient and best
way to connect it to a soundboard. I'd like to have either XLR, 1/4", and
RCA options, obviously ending in an 1/8" mini plug. Should i have one
cable, say XLR to XLR, and adapt on both ends? is there an XLR > 1/8" cable
so I'd just have adaptors on one end? Should i hvae 3 cables handy? I'd
like to have my set up as small as possible....
ALso, I'm just thinking about ordering a nice amount of tapes to start
with, maybe 20, where should I order from? And what type? I'd like to try
to stick to 60m, i've heard too may horror stories...
BTW, those headphones people were recommending from Radio Shack were the
Pro-25's, right? thanks!
Last thing, if anyone would be so incredibly kind enough to copy me some
nice jazz related stuff (MMW, Zorn, anything like that...anything really)
i'd be an amazing deed...i have nothing right now DAT, but i could give
some of my crispy analog list, plus blanks and postage (obviously...).
So, sorry for the Newbie rant, but believe me, i checked the FAQ and
everything for answers....
Thanks!
regards,
COSMO!
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