DAT-Heads Digest #339
Contents:
Re: Fwd: SONY PCM 2600 IS The Way To GO! (Eric Vandercar)
Repeat request: SCMS Stripper info ("Charles D Boozer")
helping a newbie ("Richard Laird")
Jewel on VH1to TRADE (mrdat@juno.com)
Re: another newbie offer ("P d L")
Losless audio compression (Jonathan Edelson)
Is slow rewind a problem? (Rob Gronotte)
Looking for Paul Rodgers tapes (Jim Amentler)
Taping Case Needed!!! (Dire Wolf)
Chicago Area Shows ("Paul Galis")
Ive Fallen And I cant get up! (Beast914@aol.com)
DTC 60 ES Grinding Noise?? + Tape Traders (Jordan Bortz)
RE: Cassette House?s ("David D. Rogers")
FS: portable taping gear (PhiShow@aol.com)
m(tere), not m(inute) (H V Sahasrabuddhe)
Nels Cline Tree #3 pre-announcement ("Gary Davis")
Re: Digital Audio Board ("Jos Van Dyck")
Re: 7 pin (Len Moskowitz)
? Sony 59ES transport mod (Bob Velkov)
From: Eric Vandercar <ericv@ms.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: SONY PCM 2600 IS The Way To GO!
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 16:28:23 -0500 (EST)
SolarRich@aol.com Forwarded on Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:11:49 -0500 (EST)
-> Dude-
-> Just got the Sony PCM2600 pro recorder dat. Here is some tech info:
-> - 4 motors direct drive (no gears to strip)
-> - high quality tape tension circutry.
-> - xlr in's and out's (analog)
-> - Built in SBM (super bit mapping 16bits>24bits>16bits) very clear!
-> - AES/EBU digital in's and out's (Professional)
-> - Coaxial digital in's and out's (Consumer)
-> - SCMS FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-> - Minor modification of the wireless remote allows you to view the errors
-> while playing back a tape!!! pretty cool.
-> - Top of the line tape transport mech.
-> - supports play/record in 33.1 long play as well as 44.1/48.0 hz
-> Call my friends at Pro-Digital, Inc. (610)353-2400
-> Ask for paul plotnick, the owner. He has a few left, the go for $1099, plus
-> he makes the cables needed to go into consumer level stereo systems. Don't
-> miss this one!!!!!!!!
-> any questions, email me at SolarRich@aol.com
I am a big fan of this deck which is being heavily discounted now (I've
seen it offered for under $1000) to make way for its replacement (which
I think is an R500) however, be warned that it not 100% scms free. All
clones made via the AES/EBU input will be scms=00. However clones made
via the S/PDIF inputs will only be scms00 if the incoming signal is 00.
If the incoming digital signal is scms11 or scms10, the resultant clone
will be written as scms10. Hence, this deck will always clone any DAT,
but you may be creating copies that can not be subsequently cloned on a
consumer deck. peace, further... e
From: "Charles D Boozer" <Charles.D.Boozer@MCI.Com>
Subject: Repeat request: SCMS Stripper info
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 15:56 -0600 (CST)
Anyone have any opinions regarding the Technolab SCMS Stripper vs. the Hutch?
I'd really appreciate any opinions (posted to the list or e-mail). This is
DAT-related btw, not a complaint about someone else's musical tastes or lack
of editing etiquette (which I personally feel should be kept private).
Charles
From: "Richard Laird" <AugustW@msn.com>
Subject: helping a newbie
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 97 00:02:49 UT
Hey all,
I was wondering if anybody out there would be willing to help out a newbie
for blanks and postage. I'm just starting out, and I'd really appreciate any
help. I have lots of blanks that want to be filled w/quality dead. Peace and
thanks in advance. Rich
From: mrdat@juno.com
Subject: Jewel on VH1to TRADE
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 20:13:48 EST
I am currently recording Jewel on VH1 onto DAT through DSS (not optical
out). The sounds it great. I would like for anyone intrested who wants
this to mail me at MrDAT@juno.com This would be my first trade. I'm
really looking for other Bands such as: RUSH, Billy Pilgrim, 92 Degrees,
and other underground bands.
MrDAT
From: "P d L" <pdelima@future.dreamscape.com>
Subject: Re: another newbie offer
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 17:28:30 +0000
After developing some transport problems with my deck
I have decided to stop using 90m dats. This has left me with
a bunch of tapes that I no longer need. I would like to offer
these to newbies, or those with one deck, in exchange for blanks.
All of these shows are on 90m (labeled) Kao dats.
I have divided the tapes into 2 batches, one containing 4 dats and
the other containing 3 dats. Preference will be given to those individuals
who are willing to take a whole batch. In other words, I would prefer to
see these tapes go to one or two people. In exchange for the set of four
90m dats I would like 5 new (sealed) 60m blanks. In exchange for the set
of three 90m dats I would like 4 new (sealed) 60m blanks. I will only
accept Sony, Maxell, Ampex, and (labeled) Kao 60m dats. I will not accept
unlabeled dats, even if they are sealed. Preference will be given to tho=
se
who have the blanks in their possession. Here's the tapes:
Batch #1 (Allman Brothers Band)
9/04/94 Waterloo Village, Stanhope, NJ (mics unknown) Daud
8/04/95 Great Woods, Mansfield, MA (Beyers mics) Daud
3/05/96 Beacon Theatre, NYC Neumann KM140=92s Daud
3/06/96 Beacon Theatre, NYC FOB>NAK 300=92s Daud
Batch #2 (Medeski, Martin & Wood)
5/05/95 The White Rabbit, Austin, TX Dsbd (mono mix)
10/13/95 The White Rabbit, Austin, TX Dsbd
4/17/96 Fox Theatre, Boulder, CO (B&K 4011=92s) Daud
....... I am looking to make this transaction smooth and quick, so
preference will be given to those who are able/willing to send blanks
immediatly.
please respond to pdelima@future.dreamscape.com
thanks,
Paul
From: Jonathan Edelson <winnie@borealis.com>
Subject: Losless audio compression
Reply-To: Jonathan Edelson <winnie@borealis.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 21:05:56 -0500 (EST)
I have just started playing with sonarc; a compression program that does
lossless compression of .wav and .voc files on the PC. Seems to be a
pretty nifty product; for a recording of Hornsby/Lesh/Wier I got about 30%
compression. (Meaning that each 100 meg of source was compressed into 70
meg).
I am using the compression software to allow me to store an entire audio
CD of information in _CD-ROM_ format, which has greater redundancy than
the CD_DA format. To do this, one needs about 13% compression, that is
sonarc is 'too good'.
I was wondering if there were any losless compression routines which give
less compression than sonarc, but which are faster. Ideally something
that will adjust itself to maintain about a 15% compression ratio while
going as quickly as possible.
Thanks for any help.
-Jon
From: Rob Gronotte <rob@patriot.net>
Subject: Is slow rewind a problem?
Reply-To: Rob Gronotte <rob@patriot.net>
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 21:33:01 -0500 (EST)
I just realized that one of my DATs is rewinding slower than normal -
particularly at the beginning of the tape, where it goes very slow.
Is this a problem showing signs of wear or problems with the tape?
I have probably played this DAT more than any others I have, but still
only about 10 times. I hope they don't wear out over that little use.
Btw, it's a Maxell sudio grade tape.
Rob
bootlist --> http://www.patriot.net/users/rob
From: Jim Amentler <jimbow1@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Looking for Paul Rodgers tapes
Reply-To: jimbow1@worldnet.att.net
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:39:01 -0800
Has anyone taped any of the Paul Rodgers (ex-Bad Co/The Firm) shows?
Anyone planning on taping any Paul Rodgers shows? Please let me know. I
would love to trade for any tapes of the current tour. I will be taping
some of the shows in the US. Unfortunately, they're not going to be here
until Summer time.
Thanks!
Jim
From: Dire Wolf <direwolf@psnw.com>
Subject: Taping Case Needed!!!
Reply-To: direwolf@psnw.com
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 19:20:11 +0000
Looking for a hard case (waterproof, etc...) for my D7, Nak 300 mics &
guns, and assorted cables, battery pack, etc. I have NO CLUE whatsoever
where to look for one - if anyone can help or has one for sale, please
let me know, thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!
--
This isn't who it would be
If it wasn't who it is.
-The Purple Humpbacked Whale
From: "Paul Galis" <hotrats@xsite.net>
Subject: Chicago Area Shows
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 21:36:49 -0600
Here is a sight that may help out on people wondering what shows are
playing in Chicago. I know someone was interested in this but I thought it
may help more than one person. The list is updated every week and you can
have it sent to you via e-mail every Thursday evening. Here is the
address: http://tezcat.com/~andy/shows/
Hope this helps out.
"Life without music would be a mistake"
-NIETZCHE-
Black Crowes List:
http://www.tapetrading.com/lists/h/o/hotrats@xsite.net.html
From: Beast914@aol.com
Subject: Ive Fallen And I cant get up!
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 23:11:13 -0500 (EST)
I dropped my DAT walkman on the ground and now it must be repaired. Can
ANYONE PLEASE tell me where (aside from Sony) can I send it? Please help me
smart people. Thanks.
Darren (Beast914@AOL.COM)
From: Jordan Bortz <jordan@cruzio.com>
Subject: DTC 60 ES Grinding Noise?? + Tape Traders
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 20:12:15 -0800
Hi there a couple questions:
1) My DTC 60 ES (8 mos old) seems to make a "grinding" noise when it =
loads tapes...
The noise is before hitting start or anything, just as it takes up the =
slack...
Is this common? Is it a problem with the Deck or the Tape?? Should I =
take it in for
servicing??
2) I *STILL* have very few dat tapes, and, although I use my DAT for my =
own musical
endeavours, i *REALLY WOULD* like to start building up a collection, so =
if anyone of you
souls with 2 (or more DAT machines) and THOUSANDS of hours of music =
would SPIN me a tape
or two, I'd REALLY appreciate it!!! I mean, think of all the time you =
have on your hands
to spin tapes and listen to shows now that Jerry's gone??
I NEED SOME TAPES TO MAKE IT THRU THE SUMMER OK!?!?!?! (There was that a =
grovel? ;)
Jordan
PS Looking for Dead, Santana, T Heads, P Funk, &c...
From: "David D. Rogers" <drogers@lightlink.com>
Subject: RE: Cassette House?s
Reply-To: "David D. Rogers" <drogers@lightlink.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 00:30:35 -0500 (EST)
>From: Chuck Ross <ckross@enteract.com>
>Subject: RE: Cassete House ?s
>Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 12:43:43 -0600
>>From: Brian Price <pricebri@enterprise.net>
>>Subject: Cassete House ?s
>>Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 22:19:52 +0000
>>
>>Sorry about this, but I meant to ask about the Cassete House Unlabled
DATs.
>> Not their "Master DAT" tapes, but the 120 min audio grade DATs that run
>>about $3.65 each in 50s. I dont want 50 tapes that are no good. Any
info
>>would be great. Or am I better off with their unlabeled KAOs.
>>
>>Thanks Again
>>
>>Brian
>I just got a bunch of these; they are billed as "unlabled Maxell DDS"
>tapes, and I have no reason to doubt this, since they appear identical to
>Maxell labeled tapes. Maxell OEMs a lot of tapes for various
manufacturers,
>including Hewlett-Packard.
>Quality has been excellent.
According to Art's web page on MasterDAT's (at
http://www.tape.com/prodinfo/mstrdat.html), he *won't* tell who they're
made by; thus they *can't* be "billed as" anything. He sells Maxell DDS
tape (unlabeled?), three notches below the MasterDAT's on his web order
form. The MasterDATs won't work on DDS drives, though they meet DDS specs
in every other way (apparently, just like 90% or so of all DATs sold do).
FWIW, I'd like to know more about his "custom" DAT tape (at
http://www.tape.com/prodinfo/housedat.html). He's selling those singley in
the 120-minute version for $4.65; the same MasterDAT's are selling for
$5.00. Wonder if they're also (apparently?) Fuji's...?
Peace,
<> David
URL me at http://www.lightlink.com/drogers/
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From: PhiShow@aol.com
Subject: FS: portable taping gear
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 02:37:45 -0500 (EST)
FIRE SALE! Everything must go in preparation for summer! Need a reason why?
Wait till you see us on tour....
Aerco preamp. Balanced in/RCA out Bought for $600 sell for $450
Marantz PMD-700 with Ecocharge battery packs. $900
sell for $700 without batteries, but why would you want that?
Oade preamp. Neumann specialized XLR balanced i/o sells new for over $1000.
$700. I have offers for less, so $700 would take it.
contact me with questions other than 'why are you selling all this?'
-Jordan "I'm going to club this baby seal if you don't make me an offer!"
Braunstein
From: H V Sahasrabuddhe <hvs@cs.unipune.ernet.in>
Subject: m(tere), not m(inute)
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 12:16:26 +0530
On Sun, 30 Mar 1997, Michael Coran <MCORAN@ix13.ix.netcom.com> posted:
> My understanding is that 90m tapes recorded in 3 hour mode are
> recorded at 32khz. I am confused because ...
This confusion crops up often enough. It has to do with misinterpretation
of the unit "m". In the above, it refers to metre, a unit of length, which
amount of tape travels past the head in approximately 2m(inutes) in the
standard play mode.
Hari Sahasrabuddhe
hvs@cs.unipune.ernet.in
From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com>
Subject: Nels Cline Tree #3 pre-announcement
Reply-to: gdavis@loop.com
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 02:15:08 +0000
Tonight at the Alligator Lounge, bassist Bob Mair was sick so
guitarist G.E. Stinson filled in as the "third" in the trio. They
did a totally improvisational set, with Nels & Stinson usually
contrasting on guitar styles. They go everywhere from super loud
and noisy to almost silent. Norton Wisdom painted as they played.
(You'll need to get a video version to see that!)
I got the whole thing in "Super Seven Stereo SBD." It runs about 50
mins. I was going to package it with a "best of Nels Cline Trio --
Loud Trax," but I just noticed another GE Stinson recording with
Jeff Gauthier and Alex Cline performing their new CD, "Right of
Violet," from 1/6/97. This was a direct stereo dSBD and is quite
nice -- Alex Cline (Nels' twin brother) had a huge spread of drums
which we captured nicely in stereo with overheads.
So what do you guys think -- spring for a 90 meter tree and include
both GE Stinson shows & the best of Nels Loud?
Also, will anyone get really upset if I post my article about Nels
Cline? It does have DAT content, after all...
--G.Davis
From: "Jos Van Dyck" <JVD.EBR@ebr.ericsson.se>
Subject: Re: Digital Audio Board
Date: 01 Apr 97 10:36:10 +0100
>From: "Robert Deglau" <rdeglau@execpc.com>
>Subject: Digital Audio Board
>Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 11:35:04 -0600
>
>Hi has any one found or used a digital sound card for the PC?
>
>I have two dat decks, and would like to be able to feed digital audio into
>my computer via either the digital or fiber input line. I also have a cdr
>in my computer, and this would make for perfect audio recordings....
>
Robert,
Consider CreamWare TripleDAT. It's a great system for processing DAT sound.
It consists of a card with analog and digital I/O (both coax and optical
S/PDIF or AES/EBU), and a comprehensive software package to edit your DAT
recordings, including EQ and effects, and CR-R writing software.
See at <http://www.creamware.com>.
Jos
From: Len Moskowitz <moskowit@panix.com>
Subject: Re: 7 pin
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 06:56:14 -0500 (EST)
Dan <Dkan24@aol.com> wrote:
> I would like to thank everyone who wrote me about my 7 pin (oades vs. CS)
> question. The overwhelming response was: Get the Oades cable. Everyone that
> replied told me that it was built much better and worth the money. ...
>From what we hear, the Oades do make a very nice cable using Sony's own
right angle 7-pin plug. Last I heard, the price was around $150. We
could easily offer the same cable but for now we're content to offer the
low cost solution.
We've sold many hundreds of our cables with the straight 7-pin plugs.
They're great for situations when you're not going to move your deck or
the cable around much, (for example in your home audio system or at a
show where you can set your deck down on something solid). We've never
received a cable back with broken pins though a few folks have
accidentally bent them -- you can bend them right back and get back to
work. For $30 to $50, they do the job well and are an economical
interface solution.
We've been asked to build a more rugged cable, so we recently began
offering a right-angle connector option on all of our 7-pin cables
(except our 7-Pin-Coax-I/O cable -- the "Y" cable -- we hope to have
that ready to go soon). Unlike our straight connector that stands out
from the recorder, the new right-angle plug exits the D8 (or D3 or D7)
towards the recorder's rear (like the Sony plug); the cable hugs the
recorder's chassis. If you're bouncing the deck or the cable around, it
is much less susceptible to bending and pulling out. And if you like,
you can secure it to the D8 with a piece of tape -- there's no way it
would ever pull out unless someone made a concerted effort.
It takes us a bit more effort to manufacture, so each right-angle plug
adds $10 to the cost of a cable. Even with that extra cost, Core Sound
cables are much less expensive than any alternative and do the job well.
As with all Core Sound products, they come with our usual 30 day
money-back trial offer -- we get very, very few back.
For more details about our cables, please see our Web page or send
email. Feel free to ask questions.
Len Moskowitz
Core Sound WWW site: http://www.panix.com/~moskowit
moskowit@panix.com
From: Bob Velkov <Bob.Velkov@par.univie.ac.at>
Subject: ? Sony 59ES transport mod
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 1997 15:27:09 +0200 (MET DST)
Hi DAT-heads!
After two and a half years the transport problem finally appeared
also on my Sony DTC-59ES DAT deck. I've got lucky that it was still
under the 3 years ESPRIT waranty and got it to the service center.
After a week they've returned it to me, but after hearing all the
horror stories in the past, I was wondering if there is some way
to check whether they have applied the described transport mod, or
just cleaned it and did other not useful stuff... What makes me
worry is that I have only 3 months left of the warranty.
I would be very thankful if anyone could tell me what should I
check for?
Thanks a lot in advance!
Bob Velkov
Bob.Velkov@par.univie.ac.at
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