DAT-Heads Digest #193
Contents:
M1 patching problems.... ("@ri")
Anyone need tickets to tape MerleFest (Wayne Bonomo)
Re: DMB... Improv/Variety?? ("Robert Franklin Gaines, III")
Sony PCM-1 (Steve Babyak)
Re: Audio Alchemy DTI V.2 (Ed Noyes)
FS: Complete DAT taping setup (Robert Blakeslee Gilpin)
Re: Gold vs. Green ("Wilkins, Mark D.")
Fuel taping policy? (KindTaper)
FS:Complete DAT taping setup cont'd (Robert Blakeslee Gilpin)
Stir Fried w/ Buddy Cage - SAT - S.D. CA ("nick@tapetree.com")
Re: D-Cell Battery pack for D-100 (Charlie B)
Core Sounds Binaurals sample tape (Andrew Foster)
ISO Ben Harper Seattle FM (Jeff Kollath)
LONG DAT CABLES (jpjpco)
Carry Bag for D-100 ("Marcus Leatham")
ISO Radiohead 98 Shows (Edward Davis)
Windscreen recommendations (Jean-Luc Bruyelle)
Possible Merlefest transportation bailout request! (RussnDebPerry)
From: "@ri" <ari@cloud9.net>
Subject: M1 patching problems....
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:35:48 -0400
All,
I was wondering if anybody has run into the problem with
patching an M1 and has found a solution to it (other than
running an analog patch, that's not a solution in my book).
I have heard that it's the voltage difference that causes the
problem, but I have heard from others that that is incorrect.
Here was the set-up and the problem from last night. I was
at the String Cheese show with my M1, patched out of a D8
and it was working perfectly, but when I tried to patch in
another D8, that deck read "No Input". Here was the whole
line last night: Neumann KM184's > Oade Pre-Amp > DA-P1
> Pollotnik modified RKDA10 Cable > D8 > Pollotnik modified
RKDA10P cable > my M1. That set-up was working like a
charm. When I tried to patch in my friend's D8 out of my
M1 with a monster cable connected to an Oade modified
RKDA10 cable, the patch did not work at all. I was using
Radio Shack barrels (yes, I know, radio shack makes faulty
equipment), but they have given me no problems before and
it's definitely not the barrels b/c I tested them out. I doubt if
even radio shack could mess up a simple barrel.
So that's the dilemma. Is there any solution? I am pretty sure
that if I threw the D8 in front of my M1, all would have been well,
but this problem could get pretty annoying at large shows with
long digital lines of decks. I've also heard the problem might be
one of just hooking up two sony decks digitally (ie the problem
might happen sometimes just hooking up two D8's). Any info.
is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
~Ari
--
Ari Jaffess PHONE/FAX:(215)222-0578
ari@cloud9.net - arij@seas.upenn.edu - ari@iny.com
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From: Wayne Bonomo <waynomo@well.com>
Subject: Anyone need tickets to tape MerleFest
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 11:53:51 -0700 (PDT)
I can't make it to MerleFest this coming weekend and was wondering if
anyone was looking for some decent tickets to tape it. I have two 4 day
assigned seats. Let me know.
Thanks!
Wayne
Phone (703) 281-9325 Night
(703) 502-6752 Day
From: "Robert Franklin Gaines, III" <rfg4m@server2.mail.virginia.edu>
Subject: Re: DMB... Improv/Variety??
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:07:26 -0400 (EDT)
Personally speaking, I think Dave Matthews has been getting
stale for years now. All of his songs sound the same
anymore. Though his 4/18 show had a couple of new songs
that were okay to hear, some others literally sucked! He
just doesn't seem to have the drive to become the superior
musician that others have become. As for shows that are
must haves... I would say only some of his real early
stuff, maybe from Frat parties here at UVA, or early shows
at Trax here in C'ville. They would be your best bet,
though I havn't found the drive to get them myself. The
only show i have is the Blacksburg show with Tim Reynolds
(Acoustic) on Schoeps mics. It is definitely the most
clear tape i have heard of him. It is FOB and sounds
great. hope this helps you or enlightens you.
rfg4m@virginia.edu
From: Steve Babyak <babyak@epix.net>
Subject: Sony PCM-1
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:32:24 -0400
I've been lurking here for a few months and i've got some questions
concerning the M-1 portable.
I'm interested in this deck in particular because of its SCMS-defeatable
feature, since my Sony DTC-670 has SCMS. I plan on using it to patch
out at shows, so I'm also going to get the 7 pin>coax I/O cable. The
prices for this cable range from $65 for the Coresound to $150 for the
Oade.
I heard that the M1/D100 have lower output voltages on the digital outs
than the D7/D8.
As a result the M1/D100s are placed at the end of the daisychain. I'm
not sure if i'm comfortable with this. One reason is if someone's
batteries above me, then i lose signal.
Marc Nutter from Sonic Sense told me that Sony has now developed a
better digital cable that eliminates this problem. He carries the
modified version that has digital in and out for $119.
What's the difference in these cables besides price? Does this cable
really address the problem concerning the M-1's lower out put voltage?
Are Y connectors often used to split the signal and get higher up in the
chain? Do you lose much quality when doing this? How about the M-1
overall? Has there been any problems?
I'd appreciate anyone's help.
Steve
From: noyes_ed@sonalysts.com (Ed Noyes)
Subject: Re: Audio Alchemy DTI V.2
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 15:51:24 -0400
This could be considered a pretty silly question... please forgive me in
advance! Can anyone tell me about the AA DTI V2.0? I picked up one thinking
it was a DAC, but it appears to be a junction box / reclocking device
instead. Is this correct? Can someone provide more details on its purpose
and application. Also, what does it do with respect to scms bit (wishfully
asked). Please email me privately as I don't always get to read the digest.
Thanks!
From: Robert Blakeslee Gilpin <robert.gilpin@yale.edu>
Subject: FS: Complete DAT taping setup
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:14:01 -0400
Hello,
I'm selling the following DAT equipment(prices are what I paid):
(1) Sony TCD-D7, excellent condition, purchased new in Oct 95($625),
serviced by Sony last year to accept 90m tapes, less than 20 record
hours on heads, under warranty
(1)Sony ECM 737 microphone, purchased new Dec 95($135), perfect
condition, good beginners mic.
(1)Fostex D5 deck, perfect condition, purchased new May 1997($740),
under 150 hours record time on heads, still under warranty
All equipment includes orginial boxes, manuals, receipts, etc. The
perfect setup for live taping and trading. I would like to get $1250
for the entire package. I will throw in 10 dats, either pre-recorded
live GD(rare and hq) or blanks, whichever. Selling to make room for new
decks, just dont need this much equipment. Honestly, everything works
great. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks for the bandwidth.
From: "Wilkins, Mark D." <Mark.Wilkins@alcoa.com>
Subject: Re: Gold vs. Green
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:24:10 -0400
>From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com>
>Subject: Re: Gold vs. Green
>Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 18:08:06 +0000
>
>> I was specifically looking for gold disks because I've heard
>> some older CD players have problems with blue and green.
>
>My experience is the exact opposite, it's the gold discs that don't
>play on older CD players. However, the KAO gold discs seem to play
>fine on all CD players -- go figure.
>
>--Gary
I've had trouble playing SOME KAO gold and SOME Ricoh gold discs in SOME
older players. OTOH never had any problems playing TDK greens. All were
burned on the same CD-R with the same SW etc.
From: KindTaper <KindTaper@aol.com>
Subject: Fuel taping policy?
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:35:19 EDT
I am taping the Hum show in Nashville in a couple of weeks and a band called
Fuel is opening up for them. Hum is very taper friendly, as I got the show
here in Atlanta with no trouble. I don't want to go against Fuel's policy if
they don't allow taping.
Thanks to anyone who responds...
KT
Thanks to all of you who responded about Tori: Great show, Great tape!
From: Robert Blakeslee Gilpin <robert.gilpin@yale.edu>
Subject: FS:Complete DAT taping setup cont'd
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:47:51 -0400
I forgot to include a little bit of info for the DAT package:
The package includes a Core Sound 7 pin>digital XLR cable for connection
to the Fostex, to make full SCMS free clones. Also, the TCD-D7 includes
an AC adapter. Plus, I will throw in analog XLR>RCA cables, both left
and right in and out for connection to a consumer stereo. Thanks, sorry
for the multiple posts.
From: "nick@tapetree.com" <nlayman@sprynet.com>
Subject: Stir Fried w/ Buddy Cage - SAT - S.D. CA
Reply-To: <tapetree@sprynet.com>
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 13:57:09 -0700
Hey all,
This is last minute, but I just got together a gig for Stir Fried w/ Buddy
Cage (NRPS) for Saturday 6-9 @ Canes in San Diego. We will be running a
dsbd, I ran one there for Merl a couple of months ago. I'm sure it will be
fine Saturday there is really no great place to set up mics.
This is a nice huge club, with a smoking area <G>. It is adjacent to the
beach and should be a killer time. Just remember to bring the deck for a
sweet patch. if you need more info just drop me a line nick@tapetree.com
nick@tapetree.com - www.tapetree.com - Coming To Web Radio May '98
From: Charlie B <charlieb@fuse.net>
Subject: Re: D-Cell Battery pack for D-100
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 05:06:01 -0400
I put together instructions for an external Sony D-100 & M-1 battery pack:
http://home.fuse.net/charlieb/battery.html
You can find Sony D-7/D-8 Battery Pack instructions here:
http://www.shoey.com:8080/dat/batterypack.html
I've been using "AA" Energizer Lithiums recently and they've lasted for 2
whole shows(6 hours), plus some juice left over. I've only used the
external battery Pack once and am wondering how long it will last for an
M-1, so if anyone has experience, please let me know.
I'm assuming that it will last for about 15 hours.
Peace...Charlie
http://home.fuse.net/charlieb
________________________________________________________
From: "Lukas, Erik" <Erik_Lukas@tds.com>
Subject: D-Cell Battery pack for D-100
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 1998 12:29:05 -0700
Hey, I have searched the index and found some, but not lots of info on
building a D-Cell pack for my D-100. I am very interested to get some
first hand accounts from anyone who has built and uses one of these
packs. I would like to know in particular how these packs have held up
in COLD weather conditions. Thanks, erik....
From: Andrew Foster <Andrew_Foster@infoworld.com>
Subject: Core Sounds Binaurals sample tape
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 14:21:55 -0700
hi there,
it seems like people post asking about these mics
all the time. i know there is a sample tape you can
get from Len, but i'd also like to offer up a show i recorded
with these mics to anyone who's considering buying
a pair.
the tape is of Phish @ vegas, 12/6/96. i came in
during wilson and didn't get the deck running until
the third song, but i got the rest after that. i was near
the back of the hall for the first set and about 15 rows
back for the second. both sets sound quite good...it's
one of the best tapes i've made with these mics where
i DIDN'T have to get extremely close to the sound source.
you can hear some drunken frat boys (how that demographic
slice EVER got into phish, i don't know) on the tape at a number
of places, but overall it's pretty clean.
let me know if you're interested. the show takes up a 90m tape.
andrew
From: kolla_jj@students.uwlax.edu (Jeff Kollath)
Subject: ISO Ben Harper Seattle FM
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:12:48 -0500 (CDT)
To All...
In lieu of a new obsession with Ben Harper, I need to look for a kind soul
who taped the Ben Harper solo show off FM in Seattle. I heard a rumor that
it was around, but have not seen it yet. So, anyone is able to help out
with b&p, get back to me when you can.
Thanks!
eapfp
Jeff Kollath
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=========
"We are all driven by an invisible whip. Some run, some have fun, some are
hip, some tip, some dip, but we all must answer to the invisible whip."
- Rahsaan Roland Kirk, 1969
From: jpjpco <jpjpco@megsinet.net>
Subject: LONG DAT CABLES
Reply-To: jpjpco@megsinet.net
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 17:50:51 -0500
I need to buy a 25 to 30 foot DAT digital coaxial cable (rca ends).
Does anyone know of a good place to order from. I want to make sure it
is high quality. I don't mind paying a premium, but I want to make sure
my cable will be stable. Thanks for your help!!!!
JP
From: "Marcus Leatham" <leatham@nortel.ca>
Subject: Carry Bag for D-100
Date: 21 Apr 1998 19:05 EDT
Somebody asked about choosing a bag for the
portable DAT recorder.
I found a great little bag at Wal-Mart made
by East Bay. It is padded cordura nylon,
black color with embroidered pattern on front.
Lots of color options available, same model.
It came with a shoulder strap. The front
compartment just fits my D-100 with its
leatherette cover, and that compartment has
a plastic buckle to hold it closed. Every-
thing else uses YKK zippers. Under the
D-100 pouch, the bag zips open around the
perimeter and there is a big storage area
for cables, earphones, mic mounting bar,
and mic clips. The back zips open to a
big storage area but there are pouches etc
in this area -- one pouch holds both my mics,
another pouch holds a spare DAT (60m of course)
with a velcro closure, one pouch holds 2 spare
AA batteries perfectly. There are a couple
smaller zippered pouches that I don't use.
The bag was <= $10 and I'm really happy.
Approx. size 6" W X 10" L X 6" D.
The bag and a mic stand are all I need for taping.
Good Luck
-Marcus
From: crazy_diamond@webtv.net (Edward Davis)
Subject: ISO Radiohead 98 Shows
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 16:16:22 -0700
Hi,
I am frantically trying to get the entire (* North American Tour from
Radiohead. I am missing a few and would appreciate help locating them.
I need:
Houston, Seattle, All Canadian Dates, Boston. I have all of the others
on the way. If you taped any of these shows let me know and we can
trade. I mastered 4-1-98 Hollywood myself if you are interested. I
also have some other bands to trade.
Peace,
Ed
========================================================
Want to trade DATs come to my web page at:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/5771/
From: Jean-Luc Bruyelle <jl_bruyelle@compuserve.com>
Subject: Windscreen recommendations
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:00:24 -0400
Klay Anderson wrote :
>> << Sennheiser makes a nice expensive model...with dual-elastic =
>> suspension.>>
>>
>> No, they don't-- they just re-distribute Rycone at a higher price than=
=
>> if you just bought Rycote in the first place.
Oh, Klay... Just look at the pictures and you'll see that the Sennheiser
MZS 20-1 doesn't look like a Rycote _at all_ - different shock mount,
different handle, different baskets (larger -> more efficient), different=
windjammers, different everything. And it fits any mic length by just
changing the space between the two horseshoe mounts (and the basket, a
costly operation - better to buy only the longest one you expect to need=
).
The Rycote can't do this.
I have an older MZW 426, and also use a Rycote at times, which is much
lighter & smaller but also less efficient in fast wind. But the weight of=
the MZW on the end of a 3.50 m pole is tremendous, so the Rycote is
generally more workable except in very heavy wind. I hope Sennheiser made=
the switch to lighter materials for the MZS 20-1.
Marc Nutter wrote :
>> The other option, for SCHOEPS users, is the hollow B 5 D. They are
quite
>> small but are specially designed to provided an air pocket between the=
>> front of the windscreen and the capsule of the microphone. $122.00/pa=
ir
But the B5D is still small and foam-made and, though it is more efficient=
than the solid foam windscreens (but not with omni capsules BTW), it is
useless in anything more than a light breeze. =
In the Schoeps range, for outdoor recording, the only serious choice is t=
he
W20 which is a basket-type windscreen, 80 mm in diameter, with its option=
al
windjammer. By far the most efficient windscreen available, except the ze=
ps
of course. Needless to say, it's expensive (round $200 each ?). Won't wor=
k
very well on serious wind though ; then you can still use the trick of
holding a large umbrella between the mics and the direction the wind come=
s
from (it really works !).
BTW the W20 can also be used on an Oktava MC-012 (same diameter than the=
Schoeps) or with those old Schoeps with the funny flared capsule, but the=
n
don't buy the W20R1 - which has the windjammer but can't be opened to let=
you put the mic in by the front. In this case you have to order the W20
_plus_ the windjammer (the set is called W20+R1 I was told). This point =
is
not mentioned in the Schoeps docs. =
Also, the smaller W5 and the B5D can't be opened at all - so one can't us=
e
them with flared mics. I've seen a W5 and a W20 on Neumann KM100s (diamet=
er
21 mm) but it takes filing the windscreen to achieve this feat.
Wagner One wrote :
>> Money is an object too, though I do want to get something worthwhile.
Unfortunately for outdoor recording, in anything more than a light breeze=
, =
you won't find a worthwile cost-effective solution. I tried them all, lar=
ge
solid windscreens, hollow ones, small baskets, large baskets and zeps. My=
experience is that all the foam ones are mostly useless, and that the sma=
ll
baskets don't really justify their price. The W20 works really well in ve=
ry
light wind, but it really needs its windjammer when it gets heavier. Real=
ly
heavy wind can be cured only by a serious zep with windjammer (I once
recorded wind turbines on the seashore with these - no problem at all).
Well, anyway this is my experience with the Oktava which is very sensitiv=
e
to the wind, your mics may be more forgiving.
Hope this helps,
Jean-Luc.
From: RussnDebPerry <russndeb@erols.com>
Subject: Possible Merlefest transportation bailout request!
Reply-To: russndeb@erols.com
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 19:45:54 -0400
Hey Folks,
It just may happen that I will not be able to take advantage of my
expected ride to this year's Merlefest. In the event that this occurs, I
am writing to ask if anyone else in the DC area would be able to fit me
in at this late date. I would like to be at the Fest by start time on
Thursday, but if this unfortunate event does indeed unfold, I will take
any offers I get! I will of course contribute to transportation costs
and will only need a ride THERE, as I am pretty sure I can hook up with
my group after arrival. I can also offer tapes of the Fest and such if
there is interest in that.
Thanks in advance, and I hope I won't have to take anyone up on this,
but I'd like to have a possible backup in case my other ride falls
through...
-Russ and Deb Perry
russndeb@erols.com
http://www.erols.com/russndeb/
PS- Matt, I sent this to you so you could post it in case I got the LoS
list address wrong. I couldn't actually open my LoS List attachments
here from home, since they sit on a work account which handles
attachments differently. Thanks! -Russ
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