DAT-Heads Digest #985

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FS: Sonosax Battery Pack (TaylorC) DAT Store Memorial Day SuperSale ("Gary Davis") [no subject] ("Charles M. Quinn") DATport w/ 7-pin I/O??? (CK) CD to DAT ("Joe Ray Skrha") Re: 2 questions from a newcomer.... ("Norbert Hahn") re: cdr question (Salvatore Lee) Re: SSSS (MrBERWELL@aol.com) Tascam DA-20 Head Cleaning Advise Needed (KAZDEYNA@aol.com) ISO: Taper for DMB in Phoneix, AZ July 6th (KindBudGod@aol.com) Looking For Ray Peck (Jerry Zigmont) Re: Re: Re: Cheap binaural mic (Len Moskowitz) Re: Mic Pre-amps (Len Moskowitz) AKG C1000 questions (Aaron Westendorf) Re: Mic Pre-amps (Seth Breidbart) Re: AKG C1000 questions (Seth Breidbart) Taped Neil Young 5/30/99, Looking For Trades (Leo Cailleteau) Re: 2 questions from a newcomer.... (Len Moskowitz) Re: Apogee envy (Len Moskowitz) Trey tree ("David Foley")
From: TaylorC <monkeyt@mindspring.com> Subject: FS: Sonosax Battery Pack Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 22:36:06 -0500 The subject says it all... I have one Sonosax 24v battery pack (that has never been used) for sale. Let me know if you are interested. -Taylor
From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com> Subject: DAT Store Memorial Day SuperSale Reply-to: gdavis@loop.com Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 21:01:58 -0700 The DAT Store is so excited about new Y2K models :-), we're having a super blowout sale on all demo models and current inventory. All demo models in the store will be sold below cost, and super low prices on all brand new items in stock. (Sorry, no rainchecks or price protection at these low prices). SALES BEGINS MONDAY MORNING 11AM! Studio DAT Machines Tascam DA20mkII new-call demo-call Tascam DA40 new-call demo-call Tascam DA45HR new-call demo-call Tascam DA302 new-call demo-call Tascam DA30mkII used/scratched $494 Sony R300 $564 demo $524 Sony R500 $944 demo $864 Sony ZAES consumer - super built - 5 year warantee - call - Sony ZE700 consumer demo $494 Panasonic SV3700 used $594 Portable DAT Machines Sony M1 $684 demo $644 Sony D8 used $444 Tascam DAP1 call HHB Portadat call CD Recorders Philips CDR-765 consumer 2X dubbing $524 demo $434 Pioneer PDR-500 consumer swap-trickable $494 demo $434 Fostex CR-300 demo $894 HHB CDR-850 $984 demo $894 HHB CDR-800 $1094 Tascam CDRW-5000 $894 Tascam 4X12 drive for computer PC or Mac new-call Marantz CDR-630 $794 demo $744 Marantz CDR-630GY world model (white/100-240VAC) $894 demo $794 Marantz CDR-640 /w remote $1544 demo $1444 Marantz CDR-620 /w remote demo $2294 Marantz CDR-615 /w remote $894 Otari CDR-18 (same as classic HHB 800) $994 Accessories Sony ECM-957 stereo microphone $194 Audio-Technica AT822 stereo microphone $294 Sony MDR-7502 headphones $54 Sony MDR-7504 headphones $84 Sony MDR-7506 headphones $94 Tascam TMD1000 digital mixer new-call demo-call Sony ES Home Theatre ES model receivers, pre&power amps, cassette decks, dat recorders, MD recorders, speakers, DVD players, all at never before low prices. (call) MiniDisc 20ES minidisc new-call demo-call MD Bundle 5 $344 MZR-55 portable recorder $284 MZE-35 tiny portable player $344 MZE-40 portable player $94 MDS-E11 pro studio recorder >>no SCMS<< $444 demo $324 MZ-E58 pro studio recorder XLR's no SCMS $594 MDM-X4 4-channel portastudio demo $494 MDS-PC1 computer-compatible home MD deck demo $324 MDS-302 home MD deck demo $144 ZS-M1 home MD mini-stereo demo $294 MZR-30 portable recorder missing accessories demo $194 MDS-320 home recorder demo $144 MDS-520 home recorder demo $194 Sony Digital Cameras MVCFD-71 floppy disc digital still camera $394 MVCFD-81 floppy disc digital still camera $494 DSCD-700 memory stick pro digital still camera $1694 CCD-CR1 Rivei still/video camera on special cartridge $394 DCR-TRV7 DV camera w/ large viewscreen new $994 demo $894 DCR-VX9000 pro-style camera $2994 demo $2894 DVD Players Philips DVD-855 DTS $394 Sony DVP-S7700 DTS $894 Sony DVP-C600D 5-disc DVD changer demo $394 Sony DVP-S7000 demo $494 The DAT Store (310) 828-6487 11am-5pm Mon-Fri Pacific time or email: gdavis@loop.com for more info. Thank you, --Gary
From: "Charles M. Quinn" <cmquinn@primenet.com> Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 21:30:59 >From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com> >Actually, I rarely do straight sbd+mic mix recordings (because, >based on the problems I described, I consider it an unsatisfactory >method). Also, I strongly object to using the term "Matrix" to >describe a sbd+aud mix, though I know this is the common term. >A "Matrix" recording is a soundboard tape that's been mixed on the >matrix section of a large soundboard: ie, a mix created (usually) >from the Groups and not the same as the main mix. Nothing to do >with adding a mic & soundboard. Gary you wear two hats one for soundboard work and one for taping. Matrix has a meaning to both worlds. Just put on you taper hat when talking about tapers matrix. It is much easier to say than sbd+aud mix. A gaffer in the movie industry is completely different than someone on a fishing boat. Both groups understand the term appropriately. Charles
From: CK <toen0013@tc.umn.edu> Subject: DATport w/ 7-pin I/O??? Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 00:30:55 -0500 Anyone had experience with Coresound's 7-pin-to-Coax I/O cable and the OpCode Datport?? I've had plenty of success with the input to the computer... However, I need to clone a DAT (SCMS is no biggie) so I input the entire DAT (99 mins unfortunatly) only to find out that I'm not able to through the DATPort's outport -> Coresounds 7-pin-to-coax I/O -> D7... My D7 says "No Input"... PErhaps the I/O cable does work both ways and i'm doing something wrong? I made sure that Soundforge has it's playback as "USB Device 2" (Aka DATport), and that my playback device as set as "USB Device 2" in my windows '98 Multimedia control panel. Anything else I should do with the DATport or it's setup or something along those lines? Or perhaps this has to do with the active vs. inactive subject? I'm still fairly new to DAT technology so i don't entirely understand it.. Do I need an active cable to do digital output from the Datport to the D7? Any answers are appreciated! Thanks -Steve
From: "Joe Ray Skrha" <joeray@ptialaska.net> Subject: CD to DAT Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 22:53:20 -0800 Greetings friends, I need some advice and cannot seem to get it from Denon... I have owned an old CD player my brother picked up for me in HongKong back in 1986. The unit was known as the DCD-1500. Excellant for the time. It had given me flawless service. I had been requested to record a demo CD of my own personal songs onto a DAT for a friend in the industry. When I looked at the back of the machine it has two sets of output RCA connectors (variable) and (fixed). Also about 4" toward the right of the RCA female plugs is one cicular female plug (8 pin) identified as SUB CODE OUT. When I record directly out of the RCA fixed output, I believe I am only getting a analog feed since it will not play into the digital input my Tascam DA-302 DAT recorder. Only the analog input will allow me to record from the CD player. Finally, when I do record into the analog input, I get a slight layer of hiss indicating a analog signal. Can anyone offer me any assistance and /or recommendations as how to get a digital feed off the CD player and into the Tascam DA-302 dat deck? Although I presently have King Salmon on my mind ( the Kenai River's first run is on), I would appreciate any assistance you may offer. Sincerely, Joe Ray at: joeray@ptialaska.net
From: "Norbert Hahn" <hahn@HRZ3.HRZ.TU-Darmstadt.De> Subject: Re: 2 questions from a newcomer.... Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:07:13 +0200 On Sun, 30 May 1999 00:56:09 -0400 (EDT) Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com> wrote... [snip] > > 2. when recordingin lp, 32 khz with 94m tapes, the time remaining display > > shows about 1hr, 53min...shouldn't it be about 180 min, or 3hr??? > > Time remaining is seldom that accurate. Also, at LP, ATIME runs at > half speed (increasing by 1 second every 2 seconds of clock time). > The remaining time could be several minutes off. However, if the deck reports one hour (!)less than it should be, it seems to me that the deck doesn't sense the thin tape indicator. There are a large number of decks that do not support thin tapes correctly. Usually, that's nothing to worry about. Norbert
From: Salvatore Lee <chefsal1@gateway.net> Subject: re: cdr question Reply-To: chefsal1@gateway.net Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 04:25:01 -0400 From: Ryan Ellingson <rellings@earthlink.net> Subject: CD-R Question Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 08:52:43 -0700 Hey All, Last night I was having dinner with a couple of friends and one claimed that the faster you burn a CD, on computer,the lesser the quality. I find him to be bull shitting me but I am not sure. Anyone else have any thoughts on this notion, possibly a reason for this myth if it is a myth? Take it easy Ryan It has been found that high speed burns 6x-8x have a higher chance of failing in some cd players. Does that mean lesss quality? Probably not, but it's worth factoring in. Sal
From: MrBERWELL@aol.com Subject: Re: SSSS Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:04:01 EDT In a message dated 5/30/99 1:20:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Gary Davis writes: > A point of clarification: my preferred taping method today is the > Super Seven Stereo Soundboard, which is a live mix of all > necessary signals from the soundboard, direct to dat. Can you elaborate on this method you use? Are you somehow getting a split off the mic lines going into the main sound board. How many times do you find yourself in a situation where you can do this? And lastly, where did you come up with that name? Thanks.
From: KAZDEYNA@aol.com Subject: Tascam DA-20 Head Cleaning Advise Needed Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 10:49:14 EDT Hey Guys, I apologize since this is a newbie question, and probably has been rehashed over and over on this ng, so maybe just reply personally, but can anyone tell me how they clean the heads on a Tascam DA-20 mkii. I have read all the FAQ's and posted info, but am still reluctant to take that abrasive dry head cleaner to my heads, I need some reassurance. If you can please let me know what you do, or not do......it would help me a lot. Thanks in advance to the ng...... Thanks, Peace, Kaz Kazdeyna@aol.com
From: KindBudGod@aol.com Subject: ISO: Taper for DMB in Phoneix, AZ July 6th Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 11:03:14 EDT I'm looking for a taper for DMB in Phoneix, AZ on July 6th @ Desert Sky Pavillion, I've got a 6th row and 12th row ticket available. I heard this place is a pain in the ass as far as taping goes and they won't let you tape from the lower levels of the pavillion, is this true? If so I'd assume you'd need a taper ticket correct? I'd be looking for a patch, I'm running a D-8 w/ coax digital in/out. Anyways drop me an e-mail at: KindBudGod@aol.com I'll be leaving for AZ June 24th. peace hugh :-)
From: Jerry Zigmont <zigmont@mindspring.com> Subject: Looking For Ray Peck Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 11:49:37 -0400 Looking for Ray Peck.... Thanks for the bandwidth
From: Len Moskowitz <moskowit@panix.com> Subject: Re: Re: Re: Cheap binaural mic Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 12:44:12 -0400 (EDT) "byrne crow" <draven_94@hotmail.com> wrote: > A better solution would be getting the modular binaurals w/ battery box from > Sound Professionals (www.soundprofessionals.com) for over $100 less and > better sound. For optimal bass cutting, I'd EQ the bass out AFTER rather > than during the recording. > > An even better mic would be the OKM II R from www.soundman.de which goes for > $200 US mail order. We have files that compare our mics to both of these. I'd be glad to send them on request. Len Moskowitz Stealth Microphones (tm), Cables, Interfaces Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
From: Len Moskowitz <moskowit@panix.com> Subject: Re: Mic Pre-amps Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 12:46:59 -0400 (EDT) Peter <pkmin@rsc.rockwell.com> wrote: > > I'm in the market for a pre-amp, and figured that I'd > > ask around and see what opinions I can collect before making > > a purchase. The final rig will be: > > > > Neumann KM184's->???->DAP1 > > "You might consider the Zefiro InBox." > > If you go this route, don't forget 48 volt phantom power supplies since the > Inbox doesn't provide power to mics(it will work fine with dynamic mics, > however, the 184's are not dynamic...they require 48V)....Pete Correct. You can get a compact, single channel, portable phantom power box from Mike Denecke and a dual channel from Rolls. Len Moskowitz Stealth Microphones (tm), Cables, Interfaces Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
From: Aaron Westendorf <westea@rpi.edu> Subject: AKG C1000 questions Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:02:38 -0400 I'm going to be recording my first show this coming weekend with these mics, and I have a few questions about them. First, do they have a tendency to overload either the line input or the mic input on a D8? Second, how long do the batteries last, either with alkaliens or lithiums? Also, do I really need shock mounts with these mics? The capsule rests on an internal shock mount, so I'm wondering if it's something that I really need, or I could perhaps hold off on buying. FWIW, I'll be taping almost exclusively in small clubs and theaters, almost never in an arena setting. thanks, Aaron -- ==================================================== Aaron J. Westendorf DAT List -> http://www.rpi.edu/~westea/dat "Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, but that we are powerful beyond measure" ====================================================
From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com> Subject: Re: Mic Pre-amps Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:12:51 -0400 (EDT) >> If you go this route, don't forget 48 volt phantom power supplies since the >> Inbox doesn't provide power to mics(it will work fine with dynamic mics, >> however, the 184's are not dynamic...they require 48V)....Pete > > Correct. You can get a compact, single channel, portable phantom power > box from Mike Denecke and a dual channel from Rolls. There's also a dual-channel power supply (runs on one 9v battery) from Neumann. Seth
From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com> Subject: Re: AKG C1000 questions Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 13:17:04 -0400 (EDT) > I'm going to be recording my first show this coming weekend with these > mics, and I have a few questions about them. First, do they have a > tendency to overload either the line input or the mic input on a D8? I'd be very surprised at any mics overloading the line input. (How loud will the show be? If you're taping a jet engine from the inside, I'd be a lot less surprised.) > Also, do I really need shock mounts with these mics? The > capsule rests on an internal shock mount, so I'm wondering if it's > something that I really need, or I could perhaps hold off on buying. > FWIW, I'll be taping almost exclusively in small clubs and theaters, > almost never in an arena setting. I've found the likelihood of someone banging into your micstand is greatest in small clubs (depending on the setup, of course). You might want to test it at home: set the stuff up without shockmounts, and hit the stand; see if that produces anything from the mics. (If it does, repeat the test with shockmounts to see if/how much they help.) Seth
From: Leo Cailleteau <dadson@bellsouth.net> Subject: Taped Neil Young 5/30/99, Looking For Trades Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 12:31:33 -0500 Hello Everyone :) Taped Neil Young last night in New Orleans (5/30/1999) at The Saenger Theater. Was about 25 rows back in row U, orchestra, dead center. Used CSB/D8, with the non-rolloff box. Show ran 116m. Tape came rather nicely. Sound is incredibly clear and the crowd was extremely quiet during the actual songs, for the most part. Neil peaks at -12, and the crowd gets all the way up to 0, but nothing ever really distorts. (Minus a few whistles between songs late in the second set.) Have a wide variety of trade interests. Top of the list includes 99 Rolling Stones & Smashing Pumpkins shows, plus maybe a little more Neil. Thanks for the space, Leo
From: Len Moskowitz <moskowit@panix.com> Subject: Re: 2 questions from a newcomer.... Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 15:27:38 -0400 (EDT) <Cjyellow@aol.com> wrote: > 1- I just bought a casio da-r100, and I''m using it to record local bands > from a sbd patch....these boards are really hot, I am finding that I need to > set my line in at 3-4 or 5 to keep from clipping... everyone is talking about > atenuator cables...what are they, and how do they work??? An attenuator cable is designed to cut the signal going through it by a specific amount. Its necessary when matching between pro-level (e.g., soundboard) outputs and consumer-level inputs, or when trying to feed a mic input with a very hot signal (as when the sound level is very loud). The cable should be designed to present the same impedance at its input that is at its output. Ours are designed to match the impedance used by the mic inputs on most DAT and MD recorders. We offer attenuator cables in 11 and 20 dB values. For details, please see our Web page. Len Moskowitz Stealth Microphones (tm), Cables, Interfaces Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
From: Len Moskowitz <moskowit@panix.com> Subject: Re: Apogee envy Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 15:33:22 -0400 (EDT) Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com> wrote: > I think there's enough equipment around here to do a somewhat > definitive test: record the same show, through the "same" mics > (e.g. B&K 4021's, I know at least 3 pair in NYC; if we consider the > 4011's the same, 4 or 5 pair)... A note: B&K (Bruel & Kjaer) is now DPA (Danish Pro Audio). Don't forget the DPA4022 and the DPA4023. The DPA4023 would likely be the compact cardioid of choice for tapers here. In addition to our High End Binaurals, Core Sound now carries the full line of DPA mics. We'll add them to our Web page shortly. In the interim, please contact us for details. Len Moskowitz Stealth Microphones (tm), Cables, Interfaces Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
From: "David Foley" <david@djfol.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: Trey tree Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 20:54:32 +0100 I missed the sign-up for the Trey tree of the recent partially solo show. Could anyone possibley do me a copy please. Many thanks David Foley
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