DAT-heads Digest #666
Contents:
R300 vs. DA20 vs others; bal. vs unbal. I/O (Andrew Haley)
FAO Mark McHarg (JimmyMack)
A Praire Home Companion (da9ve stovall)
trade offer ("Dan Witt")
FS:Complete Taping setup. Dat deck, Mics, etc... (Glide2Flip@aol.com)
Re: Questions: Midiman Audio Buddy ("Len Moskowitz")
Did Anyone tape Homelands Ireland? (WEEKS36@aol.com)
Re: A few notes on etiquette (Bob Ramstad)
Live concerts online (NNC) (Reto Wieduwilt)
Re: Zefiro InBox Battery Solution ("Len Moskowitz")
Looking for lost URL of Hot DEALS--Updated Daily! (JH)
Re: A few notes on etiquette ("Frank Goodrick")
RE: Sound Forge Question ("Alan Goldenberg")
ISO: Used Oade preamp ("Kevin Hatton")
Re: DDS tape drive (John R. Vanderpool)
FT: Deftones/Incubus 11/9/2000 Columbus, Ohio ("MxChino")
ISO: Original Meters 11/11/00 (liverich)
MTV Unplugged vhs wanted of: Cure, REM, SRV and ABB + others (John R. Vanderpool)
ISO: SCI 11-10 & 11-11-00 (Thomas A Small)
wanted: Doors vancouver 1970 on Tuff Bites CD "100 Minutes" (John R. Vanderpool)
From: Andrew Haley <aph@redhat.com>
Subject: R300 vs. DA20 vs others; bal. vs unbal. I/O
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:17:53 +0000 (GMT)
Keith Richardson writes:
> Charlie Miller writes:
> > Personally, I prefer the tascam DA20 over the Sony r300 mainly
> because of
> > the SCMS issue. I have a DA20 and love it. I have heard horro stories
> about
> > the r300. I would stay away from it. cm
>
> Be advised that the Fostex D5 has *only* optical I/O and AES/EBU and XLR
> analog I/O.
That's not true. The Fostex has optical and electrical digital I/O,
and there is a switch on the back that allows analog I/O at either
domestic or pro levels, and of course there's no problem running coax
cables into the XLRs as long as the levels are right. All of this was
in the market posting last time I looked.
> Also note that using _un_balanced inputs and outputs (assuming your deck
> even has them available) are sonically superior to using the balanced
> input
Sure, if a balanced input is done really badly that's true, but I'd
love to see someone prove that the difference in this case is audible.
That applies to the optical vs coax "debate" as well, of course.
One difference that undoubtedly is important is that the Pioneer
S/PDIF receivers have some compatibility problems. [ For example, I
had to get my Arcam digital tuner modified to produce a signal that
the D5 would accept. They didn't charge me anything either; nice
people. ] I've never heard of any compatibility problems with Sony
digital I/O.
Andrew.
From: JimmyMack <JimmyMack@joes-garage.demon.nl>
Subject: FAO Mark McHarg
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:11:40 +0100
If anyone could put me in touch with Mark, I'd appreciate it.
I need an email address!
tia.
Jim.
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From: da9ve stovall <da9ve@pcgeek.net>
Subject: A Praire Home Companion
Date: 13 Nov 2000 06:58:28 -0800
Hey everybody,
I'm searching for a recording of this past Saturday's (November 11, 2000) Prairie Home Companion show (broadcast on NPR stations everywhere) for a friend of mine who attended the taping and would like to have a copy on CD-R. (He's got no DAT machine, but I can transfer from DAT if necessary, . . .)
Anybody out there tape this fine show? Any help in finding a recording would be much appreciated - and I know about the streaming audio on www.npr.org (though, I guess, not specifically if they have audio of PHC - I just know they've got a lot of other shows they broadcast up for streaming), but would like something of better quality :-)
Plenty to trade. Woefully out of date CD-R list at:
http://members.nbci.com/da9ve/index.htm
(link near the bottom of the page)
>Hi Dave!
>
>Say, I've got a question for you. Are you hooked up (or can >you get hooked up) with anybody out there who trades cd-r's of >A Prairie Home Companion (the live radio variety show on NPR) >broadcasts? I was lucky enough to attend the PHC show in >Lexington, KY on Saturday, and I'd love to have a cd-r of the >broadcast. Any thoughts on this?
>
>Thanks,
>Eric
cheers,
da9ve
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From: "Dan Witt" <Lwitt1@uswest.net>
Subject: trade offer
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 10:52:47 -0600
Well it's time to offer up a few things on my hard drive before I delete
them.
Zeke 9-30-2000 7th street entry in Minneapolis , dpa 4060s > dat (40 mins,
that's all they play)
The Bellrays 10-29-2000 7th street entry in Minneapolis,
km184s>lunatec>GPadc20>dat (60 minutes)
Waylon Jennings 9-29-2000, casino amphitheater in Minnesota, dpa4060's >
dat, sounds a little distant due to where I was seated, (100 minutes)
Send me your trade proposal if interested, I will trade on CDR only. I will
do one or two trades of each show then I'm done, I just don't have the time
for more.
From: Glide2Flip@aol.com
Subject: FS:Complete Taping setup. Dat deck, Mics, etc...
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:42:17 EST
alright, the time has come for me to part with all my taping toys as time
does not permit me to use them as much anymore. here's what i've got for
sale...
Sony D8 (with remote!)-used as recording deck only-no playback hours
Zefiro InBox preamp
2 AKG c1000s Mics with clips/cases/etc
7 pin digi cable
2 XLR cables
I think thats about it. just to give you an idea all this stuff new costs
about...$1400. all serious offers will be considered. thanks!
-dan
From: "Len Moskowitz" <moskowit@core-sound.com>
Subject: Re: Questions: Midiman Audio Buddy
Reply-To: "Len Moskowitz" <moskowit@core-sound.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:03:27 -0500 (EST)
"Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." <wayne@hoxnet.com> wrote:
> While searching the net for pre-amps, I ran across the Midiman Audio
> Buddy. As corny as the name sounds, the specs look pretty good for
> the price ($99.00). I can't tell a lot from the pictures at Midiman's
> site ( http://www.midiman.com/midiman/html/products/audibudy.htm)
> but I don't see any level meter LED's. That's a minus, but it does
> seem to provide 48V phantom and an independently adjustable pre-amp.
>
> Has anyone had any experience with these? I'd like to use it with
> AT853 cardioids (which I've found out have some pretty chinchy PS's).
The Audio Buddy is a nice pre-amp but it doesn't adapt well to portable
use, because it runs on AC, not DC (batteries).
By the way, Core Sound is a full-line Midiman/M-Audio dealers. We can
supply their products at low cost.
> Also, does anyone know where to get adapters to XLR from those mini-XLR
> cables that Audio Technica uses?
We can make adapter cables.
I hope this helped!
Len Moskowitz Stealth Microphones (tm), Cables, Interfaces
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com
moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
From: WEEKS36@aol.com
Subject: Did Anyone tape Homelands Ireland?
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:18:42 EST
Paul Oakenfold played here and debuted a song that was intended for release
that was a mix of "Street Spirit" But since then there has been a ban for
releasing it.
Any info on a recording of his set would be amazing, thanks for any help in
advance.
weeks36@aol.com
From: Bob Ramstad <rramstad@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: A few notes on etiquette
Date: 13 Nov 2000 19:26:08 -0000
1) DO NOT USE "ONE-PASS" DAT's. They are CRAP, and it's a slap in the face
to send them to someone else who sends you brand new tapes. DAT media is
dirt cheap now anyway, there's simply no excuse for this.
2) Record 1 minute of silence at the beginning of tapes, since that is
where errors are most likely to occur.
3) Treat others as you would have them treat you. (No, I am not religious
but it's good advice).
i'm sure i'm not the only one out there that agrees wholeheartedly
with 2 and with 3, but disagrees violently with the start of 1.
i believe that folks should always discuss the type of media being
used, and if trading, it is perfectly acceptable to request that
someone use a specific type of media. (DDS or audio, one pass or not,
specific brand preferences, etc.)
to say that all one pass DATs are crap is a gross generalization and
that it is always "a slap in the face" to send them to someone who
sends you new tapes is flat out wrong. i have done trades with people
where we agreed that they would provide new KAO 60 meter DDS and i
provided one pass HP 60 meter DDS. if we're both happy, how can we be
wrong?
fyi, i was one of the people who introduced one pass DATs to many
collectors and traders in the Bay Area in the early 90s. at that
time, the one pass HP 60 meter DATs (made by Maxell) were much higher
quality than most of the other DATs available -- except possibly for
Panasonic audio DATs which cost quite a bit more.
always remember that tape brand and type is YOUR PREFERENCE and is not
likely to be shared by everyone you come in contact with.
another bit of data, i've found that the HP one pass 60 meter tapes
have aged much better than the Fuji, AGFA and Sony audio grade DATs.
this probably has more to do with the intended use of DDS (long term
archival backup) as opposed to anything specifically about them being
one pass... i still use HP one pass 60 meter tapes for mastering, and
have had less trouble with them than new Sony DDS tapes.
-- Bob
From: Reto Wieduwilt <widu@active.ch>
Subject: Live concerts online (NNC)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:54:25 +0100
Hi
There are some nice concerts online right now on the following server
http://www.avo.ch/
and from there go to << LIVE UBERTRAGUNG >>
Youssou N'Dour
Calvin Russell
Emmylou Harris
Ray Charles & The Ray Charles Orchestra
David Lindley & Wally Ingram
Taj Mahal's Phantom Blues Band
and some more ... check them out.
Can somebody tell me how to record such a concert direct to my
Macintosh? What software do I need?
well I just love the David Lindley stuff ... he's great
-widu
From: "Len Moskowitz" <moskowit@core-sound.com>
Subject: Re: Zefiro InBox Battery Solution
Reply-To: "Len Moskowitz" <moskowit@core-sound.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:52:36 -0500 (EST)
Brooks Taffner <brookster1@prodigy.net> wrote:
> i was wondering if anyone has a power solution for the 9v Zefiro Inbox
> ... i would like to have a pack & not a single recharge batt ... there
> is a power supply input in the batt compartment .... NiCd NMH Lio
> LeadAcid- ??? - any input or assistance would be helpful ... i wonder
> of EcoCharge could build it ??
Any common 6 to 24 VDC supply will do the job.
Radio Shack has a variety of rechargable batteries that are intended for
radio controlled cars. Carefully swap the connector for a mono miniplug
and you'll have what you request.
I hope that this helped!
Len Moskowitz Stealth Microphones (tm), Cables, Interfaces
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com
moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
From: JH <kc7fys@pro-ns.net>
Subject: Looking for lost URL of Hot DEALS--Updated Daily!
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:00:22 -0600
Looking for lost URL to "Hot Deals--Updated Daily"
Hi all,
A few weeks ago some one posted a URL for a web page called "Hot
Deals--Updated Daily." It was a plain-text page of links to Outpost.com
CDR media, Barnes & Noble coupon deals, OfficeMax deals, Buy.com,
etc. There were no banners, no sponsorship, and it was updated daily like
the guy said. Anybody know what the URL is? I lost it, and had such a
great experience with the page.
JH
From: "Frank Goodrick" <videoimage@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: A few notes on etiquette
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:28:28 -0500
From: "Rob Garland" <pipedreamer420@thesimpsons.com>
Subject: Re: A few notes on etiquette
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:15:03 -0500
>Look at what happens to VHS=
>tapes when you record over them, the magnetic technology is almost=
>identical and the results are poorer quality.
Rob - I agree with you on trading one-pass for new, but the VHS-DAT
comparison is apples & oranges.
VHS is analog; taping over a pre-existing signal results in (IIRC) a 3 db
S/N loss.
Bulk erasing reduces or eliminates this loss.
Digital recording doesn't have this constraint - there should be no signal
loss on DAT or DVC Pro digital tape when recording over a pre-existing
signal.
Frank.
From: "Alan Goldenberg" <airtaxi@mediaone.net>
Subject: RE: Sound Forge Question
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:24:28 -0600
From: "Rob Garland" <pipedreamer420@thesimpsons.com>
Subject: Re: Question on Sound Forge?
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 04:14:57 -0500
Rob wrote:
<snip>
>The best method is to use CD Wave (www.cdwave.com) which is not only quick,
but it will >break the wav files on proper sector boundaries (which SF does
not do unless specifically
>instructed to do so in the settings). Oh, it's free too.
^^^^^^^^^^^^
I think Mike Looijmans (the author of CDWAVE) would beg to differ on this
last point. CDWAVE is shareware and can be downloaded for trial use for 31
days. After that if you continue to use the application you are supposed to
register by paying $10 to the author. Mike did a very nice job on this very
useful utility, and I'm sure this last point just slipped your mind...right
Rob? In all seriousness, anybody who uses this elegant utility should have
no problem coughing up the 10 bones no questions asked.
Alan
From: "Kevin Hatton" <kevin_hatton@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO: Used Oade preamp
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:45:33 EST
hello all,
im curious to see if anyone out there has a used Oade preamp (either 148 or
248). I know these are no longer being made but am curious to see if anyone
wants to get rid of theirs for any reason. Please give me a holler if
you've got one to sell
KEV
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From: fish@daacdev1.gsfc.nasa.gov (John R. Vanderpool)
Subject: Re: DDS tape drive
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:54:42 -0500 (EST)
Ryan Kennedy said:
> Will a Seagate Tapestorage 8000 DDS tape drive allow for audio extraction?
> The model number is TR4IDE. Thanks a lot.
> Ryan
quite possible - i use audio on seagate 8000 (they are the next gen
[i.e. DDS2] of the infamous archive/python drive)
i've only used the scsi variant (on an sgi/irix unix workstation) and
judging by your part # yours is an IDE i/f
as wayne hoxie said check that web page to see if you can get the audio
firmware
fish
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From: "MxChino" <mxchino@neo.rr.com>
Subject: FT: Deftones/Incubus 11/9/2000 Columbus, Ohio
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:21:50 -0800
Taped with a sony m1 and sonic studio mics and bass roll off filter. 20 ft
from right stacks. Sound quality is excellent (9) for both sets. Incubus is
50 minutes, Deftones are 90. I can only trade these on cdr. Email me for
trades. Im mainly looking for rock/numetal. Thanks.
Got a crush on a pretty pistol
Should I tell her that I feel this way?
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http://staring-at-the-sound.net/MxChino/list.htm
From: liverich <liverich@sunlink.net>
Subject: ISO: Original Meters 11/11/00
Reply-To: liverich@sunlink.net
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 17:55:04 -0500
Anyone have any leads?? You'll be glad if you let me know.
From: fish@daacdev1.gsfc.nasa.gov (John R. Vanderpool)
Subject: MTV Unplugged vhs wanted of: Cure, REM, SRV and ABB + others
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:00:40 -0500 (EST)
anybody have master (or 1st gen) of any of these on VHS?
i have audio of them but it was before i had a vhs deck
also looking for complete prebroadcast audio of many of the unplugged
shows (don't need the common ones like ABB, clapton, dylan, simon)
also looking for a copy of the (i guess IBM PC) CD that you could order
out of the unplugged book (which i picked up for $5 on ebay!)
thanx,
fish
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"leavin' Texas 4th day of July,
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catch the detroit, lightning out of sante fe,
great northern out of cheyenne, from sea to shining sea"
From: Thomas A Small <tsmall420@juno.com>
Subject: ISO: SCI 11-10 & 11-11-00
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:15:03 -0500
Hey guys!
I am in search of DSBD's of teh SCI shows On 11-10-00 in Knoxville, Tn &
11-11-00 in Ashville, NC. I have DSBDS of 10-26, 10-28, 10-29, 10-31,
11-3 & 11-4 any of which I would be pleased to offer in return. All
tapes are flawless and come with a satisfaction gaurentee! Let me know,
And as always Thanks and Peace & Good Thoughts!
tom
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From: fish@daacdev1.gsfc.nasa.gov (John R. Vanderpool)
Subject: wanted: Doors vancouver 1970 on Tuff Bites CD "100 Minutes"
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:40:00 -0500 (EST)
i have an incomplete version of the show and its great - the tuff bites
CD "100 minutes" is the whole show in what i'ver heard is also very nice
fidelity
lots to trade....
later,
fish
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catch the detroit, lightning out of sante fe,
great northern out of cheyenne, from sea to shining sea"
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