DAT-heads Digest #748
Contents:
ISO: 12.16.99 Phish ("T W")
Ron Levi's Wild Kingdom ("Jacob Jordan")
FS: Denecke PS-2 48v power supply ("Carl Sylvester")
Phish responsible for datheads digest? ("Darrin McKeehen")
Re: Phish responsible for datheads digest? ("L. Sean Kennedy")
ISO Dr. DIDG 12/30/00 SCI NYE ("Brooks J. Taffner")
WTB: Bill box -- custom Schoeps PS (Andrew Gustin)
FS: CORE SOUND BINAURALS and HUCHT DAT COPYPROCESSOR MKII (bensphishing@cs.com)
Cal State LA... Lobos and Ozomatli 1/19/01 (ZepMan@aol.com)
FS: Beyerdynamic MV 100 mic pre amp ("steven hussong")
anyone tape ROY CLARK@3 Little Bakers in Delaware??? (jimmy sellers)
help with .wav & EQ'ing (Jay Lyons)
End of the Beatles:) (David Gorrill)
U2 tickets are on sale NOW (Delano)
anyone have PROJECT OBJECT from new years in NYC?? (jimmy sellers)
WangDat 3200 DAT drive ("Steve and Jen Robinson")
Re: WangDat 3200 DAT drive ("Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.")
Car Dat 4 Sale (Rich Eggleton)
iso phil nye (Duncan Oldham)
Any New Zealanders on the list? (Mark)
SBD recording help. (acffh)
thinking of selling my R300 + extended warranty (Eric Reichenbach)
Frank Black taping policy? ("Bas Ruesink")
ERS ("Andy.Williams")
From: "T W" <ph2klv@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO: 12.16.99 Phish
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:00:46 -0800
I would love a super HQ DAT of this show, please. By far my favorite Sand(I
was not there, but it gives me shivers when I hear it! over 20
minutes)...and one of the best Tweezers(20+ minutes).
Please send the source info in your response. My list awaits...
Thanks for the help.
Trevor
Seattle, WA
Phlowin through the hourglass
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From: "Jacob Jordan" <jordanjacob@hotmail.com>
Subject: Ron Levi's Wild Kingdom
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 21:23:07 -0500
Hello,
Not sure if any tapers up North would be interested but thought I'd offer
this tape up for trade as well as B&P for three. The source is CoreSound
Binaurals>M1 and sounds pretty good. Probaly only 25 people there.
One note, my battery failed in the first set and I missed about a minute or
two switching from my pack to AA's. Which brings me to my next question ...
I was using the Radio Slack batteries and I have burned them out I believe.
I think I have overcharged them. So I was wondering if anyone had any
suggestions about a similiar pack (the Radio Slack battery was small and
skinny and I could stealth with it). Thanks for your suggestions,
Jacob
Guess I will also call Sonic Sense/Terrapin.
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From: "Carl Sylvester" <carl_meow@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: Denecke PS-2 48v power supply
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 03:05:32
hello! i have a Denecke PS-2 portable 48 volt phantom power supply unit for
sale... it runs on a single 9v battery and has two XLR inputs and one 1/8"
mini-plug output... an image can be viewed at:
http://www.soundprofessionals.com/hardware/img/adcnvtr/denecke_ps2_front.jpg
i had the output cables modified to miniplug instead of XLR for
'unobtrusive' recording applications (ie sending the signal from the
PS-2 to a DAT walkman)... i purchased the unit from soundprofessionals for
$140 + mod. cost... the unit is in perfect condition and has been used ~15
times... i would like to get $90 shipped for it...
(this is a repost for this item - the original buyer flaked)
Carl
bwtax in celebration of the talented Jason finally quitting Metallica
Metallica @ Tokyo 11/15/86 (cass-M>DAT) - Jason's 3rd show -
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From: "Darrin McKeehen" <dmckeehen@hotmail.com>
Subject: Phish responsible for datheads digest?
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 03:16:55
From: Steven Kingsley <eskay@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: From: Steven Kingsley <eskay@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Phish responsible for datheads digest?
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:42:50 -0500
I mean, I love Phish & all and am sorry to hear of Mrs. Fishmans demise but
I don't for one second think Phish is at all responsible for creating
Datheads. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Steve
<snip>
Either way, we all should be Grateful because if it weren't for Phish, there
would be no DAT-Heads Digest.</snip>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Sean has stated alot already.
Maybe, you (Steve) took a little too literal of a meaning of what I said, as
seen from your <snip> above. Or something.....
Your <snip> and response are kinda like a journalist who takes part of what
someone told them in an interview, and takes it out of context w/ his own
spin.
Nowhere in my statement do I say, "Phish is responsible for creating
DAT-Heads".
Without the spirit of the Grateful Dead we would not have gotten where we
are at this time and therefore may not have DAT-Heads, as we know it. So
they are definitely responsible in a big way. Any argument w/ that is
futile. Period. Short and sweet.
Here are some entries in the "Phish Companion", for FURTHUR reinforcement.
(page 2) Spring 1990 "The Phish.Net begins as an email list of fans on the
Internet."
(page 2) August 8, 1991 "The Phish.Net digest is started."
(page 3) The Usenet newsgroup rec.music.phish is created and messages once
sent to the Phish.Net digest are forwarded to rec.music.phish."
(page 3) Fall 1995 "Rosemary's Digest, a moderated digest composed of posts
chosen from rec.music.phish by Rosemary Dean Macintosh, is started. The
Phish.Net digest is discontinued."
(page 4) October 1996 "The digiphish email list is started for DAT tapers
and traders."
(page 4) November 1997 "Rosemary Mackintosh hands her legendary digest of
rec.music.phish's messages over to Benjy Eisen, who operates the digest
("The Eigest") through June, 1999."
(page 5) August 22, 1999 Philip Zerbo, Brian Fisk and numerous Mockingbird
Foundation contributors renew the Phish.Net digest (a digest of the
substantive messages of rec.music.phish, including important Phish news."
And there you have it.
Without Phish, there would be no Phish fans. Without Phish fans, there would
be no Phish.Net
....etc...etc.
What's the addy you send your posts to again?
Oh yea! dat-heads@datheads.phish.net
That's right!
So there you have it. This information in combination the Sean's previous
post answers your question.
<snip>It would still be around, just hosted somewhere else. Phish just
makes it more convenient. <snip>
What's that line from "Stash"?
Maybe so, maybe not....
Peace,
McGrupp
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From: "L. Sean Kennedy" <liam@fedney.tech.xo.com>
Subject: Re: Phish responsible for datheads digest?
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 23:20:22 -0500
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 03:16:55AM +0000, Darrin McKeehen wrote:
> Without Phish fans, there would be no Phish.Net
The things that we enjoy are largely the result of people who
volunteered their time and computing resources to provide these
forums. In some cases the bands benefitted from this, in some
cases the fans benefitted from the band, but in all cases the
fans (of many musics) benefitted from the fans. Initially we all
benefitted from the US Government funding the NSFnet as well as
organizations that put resources into UUCP maps and relays (AT&T,
UUNET's non-profit original wing, DEC, and others).
There are enough interdependencies among the various communities
that saying "one benefitted from another" is an exaggeration. In
fact, someone could equally argue that at least half of the "Phish"
items you mentioned used "DAT-heads" resources because they ran on
the same machine (including the "phish.net" DNS). Or you could
argue that "without growth of the Internet, there would be no
Phish.Net."
There are a lot of important "Phish.Net" events that are not covered
in your history, such as Marc Rouleau writing the digest software that
Dead-Flames, (modified) the PhishNet digest and DAT-heads used (in
7/91), Matt L (and maybe Rich Fromm) printing t-shirts, Amy Skelton
letting people put fliers on the merchandise table (~ '92) for the
Phish mailing list. The Usenet vote I mentioned previously (where
DAT-heads and others helped the Phish community). And aside from
Rosemary, there is absolutely no mention of people who put a lot
of energy into providing intelligent content for the Phish.Net
(interviews, accurate tour/ticket information, tape reviews...).
Saying "Phish.net" started in 1990 is probably revisionist, because
it was "phish@world.std.com" or something like that. I think
Matt/Rich's T-shirts were really when it started being called
"phish.net" and it was still much later that the domain "phish.net"
was registered. (Not by the band, and it required some creativity in
writing an application because back then you had to justify to a
US gov't funded agency that expected that was ".net" included lots
of wires.)
I guess to me these are the interesting facets of the history.
And they all involve people who did something they didn't have
to do. Much like "Band"-base is a poor substitute for listening
to a show, a timeline is a cool reference, but it is no comparision
for a social history (such as in studying world history).
The proliferation of organizations and mailing lists is a great
thing. However, I feel the truely admirable fact is that there
is a growing community of people who are dedicating their own
computing hardware and particularly their time, plus some borrowed
network bandwidth to offer people live music from taping friendly
bands. This would be your local etree server, a pretty cool
individual. Ditto someone who puts time into evolving SHN or
an application interface to the compression protocol for you.
> What's the addy you send your posts to again?
Actually, it will be dat-heads.org. But I need to ping someone
to secondary the domain name.
Sean
From: "Brooks J. Taffner" <brookster1@prodigy.net>
Subject: ISO Dr. DIDG 12/30/00 SCI NYE
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 22:59:00 -0600
If anyone taped Dr. Didg or any other artist @ SCI NYE
> please let me know - i am looking for sidestage acts
> i could not be everywhere @ once !
>
> thanks
> Brooks
From: Andrew Gustin <gustin@leland.stanford.edu>
Subject: WTB: Bill box -- custom Schoeps PS
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 21:43:51 -0800
If anyone has one of these lying around which they would like to unload,
please drop me a line.
regards,
Andy
From: bensphishing@cs.com
Subject: FS: CORE SOUND BINAURALS and HUCHT DAT COPYPROCESSOR MKII
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 01:42:52 -0500
I have a barely used pair of Core sound Binaural Microphones for sale. I bought them about six months ago but I recently purchased a pair of AKG 480s and no longer need them. They also have the optional battery box with bass rolloff. These cost over $265 new and I was looking for about $150.00 but any reasonable offer will be considered. Email me if interested. Also still have the HUCHT Dat Copyprocessor MKII for sale for $150.00 as well. Take care and thanks for the bandwidth.
From: ZepMan@aol.com
Subject: Cal State LA... Lobos and Ozomatli 1/19/01
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 05:14:04 EST
Hey all...
I've got an extra of this show on 2 x60m
I taped it with Schoeps MK4->KC-Y actives->VMS5u->DAP-1
if you want it it's yours
send list or b&p
Marc: )
From: "steven hussong" <chop@cshore.com>
Subject: FS: Beyerdynamic MV 100 mic pre amp
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:19:11 -0500
As it says I have a Beyerdynamic MV 100 mic pre amp for sale . It is in
excellent condition with light use . The unit has phantom power if needed
and is a nice piece . Will take $425.00 plus shipping to the first one who
wants it .
STEVE
From: jimmy sellers <pjimmy@delanet.com>
Subject: anyone tape ROY CLARK@3 Little Bakers in Delaware???
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:24:40 -0500
it was last night.
believe it or not.......i am serious ;-)
thanx for any help,
jimmy
dat list: http://www.delanet.com/~pjimmy/datlist.html
cd&shn list: http://www.delanet.com/~pjimmy/cdlist.html
IM screenname: jimmyphart
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From: Jay Lyons <jayl@southeast.net>
Subject: help with .wav & EQ'ing
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:00:09 -0500
Greetings,
Did not know where to turn so I thought you folks might have an opinion ;)
I managed to capture a solo piano last night from 11 rows back in a small
2000 seat house. Due to the conservative crowd I set my levels b4 the show
(all the way up)in the restroom and never touched them once in the hall.
Just hit record and ran with it.
Now I want to convert to cd-r:
First obvious problem is the applause being too loud, and I thought I could
mark these sections without much problem and dump the volume on these. I
figured dropping by -6 should do it but I'll try several ways b4 committing.
My rig; VP88 w/lo-cut filter, M/S setting > InBox > D8
My biggest concern is even with the lo-cut filter in I can still hear low
end rumble of the mic. Prolly from me hand holding it even tho I managed to
only move/shift/relax between tunes. I might be imagining it but I think I
can actually hear the tension in my hand when the mic was getting to be too
much.
Now, it's NOT as if this is a big deal. It's more a 'floor noise' type of
sound,..that type where, to me, I would associate it with 'headroom'.
I would like to loose as much of this as possible w/o getting into
changing the music.
reason; I'm a drummer! And NO I'm not deaf but I do prefer to listen to my
music really loud. And the music sounds wonderful. But towards the end and
at the beginning of the pieces when I have the music up in volume I have
this low end rumble.
I can use CoolEdit 2000 or SoundForge in doing this. Can anyone offer some
suggestions?
Btw, I do this all the time with the same rig. Usually electric music and
the headroom in those shows doesn't have this rumble show up for obvious
reasons.
TIA
Later,
Jay
http://users.southeast.net/~jayl/
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From: David Gorrill <dgorrill@massed.net>
Subject: End of the Beatles:)
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:04:00 -0500
Think I've got all I can manage, for now. Hoping for sufficient snow
for skiing on the beach!
BWT: King Crimson, Berklee Performance Center, 11/20/00(I think), CSB
w/ rolloff> zefiro> D7
From: Delano <bluesky@mindspring.com>
Subject: U2 tickets are on sale NOW
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:43:33 -0500
After an hour of calling and trying to connect, I finally got U2 tickets
for Charlotte and Atlanta (plus a few extra). You better call now, Atlanta
is almost sold out after only 25 minutes. This is U2's first indoor venue
tour since 1992. Wish me luck stealthing.
Take Care,
Delano
http://www.mindspring.com/~bluesky/index.htm
From: jimmy sellers <pjimmy@delanet.com>
Subject: anyone have PROJECT OBJECT from new years in NYC??
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 11:50:51 -0500
if anyone taped this, or has a copy of it, i would LOVE to trade for it.
thanx in advance for any help,
jimmy
dat list: http://www.delanet.com/~pjimmy/datlist.html
cd&shn list: http://www.delanet.com/~pjimmy/cdlist.html
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From: "Steve and Jen Robinson" <zeus163@home.com>
Subject: WangDat 3200 DAT drive
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 10:21:04 -0800
I have some rookie questions about this drive. Can the firmware in this
particular DAT data drive be flashed to make it read the audio off of DATs?
I vaguely recall some posts that were a bit more specific, but couldn't find
them in the digests on DATheads. I'm hoping some kind soul has some info
about this particular DAT data drive and whether or not it can be used for
DAT to HDD purposes and if it can be used, how to do it. Thanks a ton. I
can get my hands on one through work and would like to try it.
Thanks!
Steve
From: "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." <wayne@hoxnet.com>
Subject: Re: WangDat 3200 DAT drive
Reply-To: wayne@hoxnet.com
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:04:02 -0600 (CST)
On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Steve and Jen Robinson wrote:
> I have some rookie questions about this drive. Can the firmware in this
> particular DAT data drive be flashed to make it read the audio off of DATs?
> I vaguely recall some posts that were a bit more specific, but couldn't find
> them in the digests on DATheads. I'm hoping some kind soul has some info
> about this particular DAT data drive and whether or not it can be used for
> DAT to HDD purposes and if it can be used, how to do it. Thanks a ton. I
> can get my hands on one through work and would like to try it.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Steve
As far as I know, this drive does not support DAT audio and there are no known firmware
upgrades that will do that for you. It seems that the only one's capable are the ones
contracted for SGI, the Conner/Archive/Seagate line and the later Sony STD-9000's. Some
of the non-SGI Conner's will take a flash upgrade, but I don't think a non-SGI Sony has
any hope of being upgraded. See the DAT2WAV dat-faq at:
http://www.freenet.carleton.ca/~aa571/datfaq.htm
--
Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.
SIUE School of Engineering, Dept. of Computer Science
wayne@hoxnet.com
http://www.hoxnet.com
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From: Rich Eggleton <reggleto@gmu.edu>
Subject: Car Dat 4 Sale
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:13:46 -0500
Hi Everyone,
I have a Blaupunkt DTP 08 for sale. I am asking what I paid for it
$350.00 plus shipping and COD Charges.The price is not negotiable. I
have never used it, and cannot guarantee that it works. It was orginally
bought by dat-head member Richard Plumb and then I purchased it from
him. If you are interested
please email me privately.
rich
From: Duncan Oldham <duncan@epix.net>
Subject: iso phil nye
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:46:15 -0500
Hello just trying again if anyone has the choice copy of this show,i,m
surprised it has surfaced yet?thanks for the space
..........Duncan
From: Mark <mzclaw@micron.net>
Subject: Any New Zealanders on the list?
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:55:27 -0700
Hi,
Looking for someone that is in New Zealand that's on the list.
Need to find a taper for a concert next month.
Email me if you can help.
mzclaw@micron.net
Thanks, Mark
From: acffh <morst@itis.com>
Subject: SBD recording help.
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 15:01:34 -0600
Well, it depends on what you are using, as to the connectors on your DAT
machine's end. . .
Most Pro soundboards have a analog RCA pair available, oftentimes this goes to
the sound engineer's tape deck, so you may be patching off another deck.. If
this is the case, you may wish to patch digitally from a good pro deck,
instead of using a small portable deck's a-d converters. If you are going
direct from the board, there are actually 3 types of connectors you would be
likely to see- XLR male on the board, (3 pins arranged triangularly in a round
connector about 1/2 inch in diameter) 1/4" female on the board, commonly known
as a Phone plug or the RCA's. If you have a set of RCA cables to go to your
deck's input (RCA or mini I bet) then you can get adaptors at radio shack
which are 1/4" phone plug male on one end, and RCA female on the other,
they're cheap and I always wish I have 4 more of them. XLR-RCA is best
accomplished via a custom cable (personal opinion), although I think SHURE or
switchcraft makes a barrel connector which should be the same thing.
now the only thing to think about is balanced vs unbalanced signal. . . 1/4"
and RCA are unbalanced, so if your deck is RCA or mini, that's perfect. XLR is
balanced, so you'd only need to take the + and GND connectors if you're making
a cable to go xlr-rca.
good luck and let me know if you need more help.
PS- try to get there for soundcheck and get levels set approx. . . board feeds
can get mighty hot!
-tom
Bill wrote:
Might have access to a SBD patch at an upcoming event. Never done one
before. What kind of patch cords should I bring? Anything else I should
know.
From: Halfstep-2@webtv.net (Eric Reichenbach)
Subject: thinking of selling my R300 + extended warranty
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:05:56 -0500 (EST)
I sent it to Paul (Pro Digital) back in October to get cleaned and have
a tension adjustment. It has been sitting in its box, unopened, since
the first week of November. So, it is in perfect working order. I
mentioned to Paul about selling it since I have a few other decks. He
says I could get $450 for it. ($600 new.) Well, It still has 3 years
left on the 5 year warranty, so I would want another $50 for that. ($100
new.) So, $500 total + shipping which shouldn't be much. If you are
interested, feel free to drop me a line.
Thank you,
Eric
From: "Bas Ruesink" <basruesink@hotmail.com>
Subject: Frank Black taping policy?
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 22:07:09 +0100
does anyone know anything? let me know,
thanks
Bas
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From: "Andy.Williams" <andy.williams@mcmail.com>
Subject: ERS
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 21:31:40 +0000
Oopps !
ERS 98 is at http://ers98.com/
Andy
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