DAT-heads Digest #813

Contents:
  Panasonic SV-250 for sale (JHCWSP@cs.com)
  reusing dat tapes? ("J.Garcia")
  ISO: Nick Cave & Dirty Three ("Hans")
  Brave Combo ("Alan Goldenberg")
  audio cdrs ("taperroy")
  "audio" CDR's ("Rob Bertrando")
  Right Angle XLR's (Alan Saferstein)
  You can get audio only discs cheaper than $2-3 (KindTaper@aol.com)
  FT: LOS... My Denver 3-10-01 for your recent SF Fillmore LOS (RossOther1@cs.com)
  FS or trade Portabrace ("Dave Morrison")
  DVD audio? ("d kelly")
  Re: reusing dat tapes? (Seth Breidbart)
  $2 to $3 each??? ("Dan")
  ISO:  Tool  shows ("Vikas Bhatia")
  ISO:JID S.D. and H.O.B. tonight  L.A. (Dave DiMartino)
  Re: sony dgp/dap1 tape help (Seth Breidbart)
  Re: sony POC-DA12 cable (Seth Breidbart)
  Digital Multi input matrix (Jacob Alifrangis)
  Someone who can transfer MD > CDR digitally? ("Jonas \(a.k.a. MiKeJ\)")
  RE: NOMAD Jukebox (Warren Melnick)
  apogee 1000E-20 & apogee ps-1000E Power Supply ("travitz")
  Jerry Cantrell tour dates:  ("Bruno Globensky")


From: JHCWSP@cs.com
Subject: Panasonic SV-250 for sale
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 09:13:30 EST

I have a Panasonic SV-250 I would like to sell. It hasen't been used in about 
2 years. I'm guessing that the heads have about 150 hours of use on them. If 
anyone is interested, please e-mail me an offer. Also, you can check out 
e-bay.



From: "J.Garcia" <elektrik@navegalia.com>
Subject: reusing dat tapes?
Reply-to: elektrik@navegalia.com
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 17:07:31 +0100

I'm not much acquainted with all the details of dat-recording yet, 
although I've taped a few shows already.

Hardware used: PCM-M1 + binaural mics

Can a DAT tape be reused?

If I reuse a DAT tape, precautions before reusing it? (do I have to erase 
ID's manually, etc???)

I ask as I attended a performance and, as precaution to avoid missing the 
start of the show, this was cancelled but I already taped 10 minutes or 
so.

Before taping any show, I skip 2 minutes of tape, either by pressing the 
play button or by recording a blank fragment. Is there anything wrong with 
this?

Is there any info in internet on how to operate ID's etc with a PCM-M1?

Replies to the list are fine.


Jose Garcia
elektrik@navegalia.com



From: "Hans" <sky83539@skynet.be>
Subject: ISO: Nick Cave & Dirty Three
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 17:23:06 +0100

Nick Cave will be doing some (so called solo) shows in the US from
March 21 to March 31. He will be accompanied by 2/3 of Dirty Three.
Would love to hear recordings of those.
Anyone with good taste and some fine quality Nick Cave & Dirty Three
or other Australian stuff (Cruel Sea, Dave Graney, Kim Salmon, Tren
Brothers, etc..) please contact me. Many master DAT recordings for
trade.  I have world's largest Nick Cave collection. Can clone to
CD-R too. 
Hans (Belgium-Europe)




From: "Alan Goldenberg" <airtaxi@mediaone.net>
Subject: Brave Combo
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:32:14 -0600

Anybody know what their policy is regarding taping?
Looking for some live shows if anybody has 'em.

Alan




From: "taperroy" <taperroy@powerlynk.com>
Subject: audio cdrs
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 11:31:46 -0600

in reply to eric...

 , when i first purchased my stand alone cdr burner..  i felt like a dummy
,, cuz i went to buy some discs, and the discs were ridulously priced. in
the last year tho,, the prices on these audio only discs have come way down,
im able to buy maxell discs a 25 pack WITH  slimline cases for $20.00
regular price at best buy. this works out to .80 cents each  (with case)
which  isnt too bad  , once you add the cost of the case. if you wanna go
cheaper,, you can purchase memorex discs a 30 spindle for $ 20 bucks.
CHEAPER IF ON SALE!!!

 perhaps still not as cheap as computer burning, but with stand alone
burner,, youre not buying a sound card,, programs. cdr burner. cables...

 biggest drawback for me is that its real time burning only..... and even
now they are making consumer models that are doing quicker spins than real
time!!

 just a fyi...

taperroy





From: "Rob Bertrando" <rob_bertrando@hotmail.com>
Subject: "audio" CDR's
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:27:00 -0800

TDK 80 min audio CDR's are available from Costco for about $1.25, and 74 min
for about $1.10, depending on quantity, rebates, etc.  "off" brands, like
Memorex, are under $1 for 80 minutes.  While more than computer CDR's cost
now, it's about what most of us were paying 18 mos ago.




From: Alan Saferstein <gruvenon@netzero.net>
Subject: Right Angle XLR's
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:24:58 -0500

I don't see a lot of tapers using right angle XLR's on the mic end of
their cables.  It seems the way people run their mic cables that right
angle XLR's would be ideal.  Is there some reason, other than they cost
a little more, that these are not more common?

Alan


Shop online without a credit card
http://www.rocketcash.com
RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary



From: KindTaper@aol.com
Subject: You can get audio only discs cheaper than $2-3
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 13:33:08 EST

someone said:

<<but it only uses audio CDrs which are damn expensive (~$2-3 each.)
It does not accept the computer CDrs that most of us use.>>

Tape Warehouse here in Atlanta has the consumer discs for much less than $2-3 
a disc. I think the standard disclaimer is to say that I don't work for them, 
etc., and I don't. But I have shopped there for years and they seem to always 
beat everyone else's prices. I just went to their website, 
www.tapewarehouse.com, and you can buy a 100 pack spindle of 80 minute 
digital audio Accurec discs for $49.71. Now I don't recommend these discs, 
simply because I like Mitsui's and Taiyo Yudens. But if generic media doesn't 
bother you, 50 cents a disc for audio grade 80 minute discs is not a bad 
deal. They also have Memorex 25 packs of 80 minute audio discs for $15.94 or 
something like that. That's less than $1 a disc and Memorex sometimes uses 
Taiyo Yuden discs in their rotation. Well under a $1 for DA Taiyo Yuden discs 
is a deal. I remember when they were $4.99-$5.99 a disc. I also remember when 
computer cd-r's weren't 10 cents a disc. They were $14.99 each and it really 
sucked to ruin 5 of those with a bad computer.

Thanks,
Wes
Kindtaper@aol.com



From: RossOther1@cs.com
Subject: FT: LOS... My Denver 3-10-01 for your recent SF Fillmore LOS
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:12:42 EST

Hi all,
I am looking to find the recent Leftover Salmon shows from the Fillmore in 
SF.  I have the Denver 3-10-01 @The Fillmore w/ David Grisman--> 
MBHO603a/KA500> V2> ADC-20> P1
I am also looking for 10-31-97 and 11-1-97 at "The Fox Theater"  in Boulder, 
CO.  Please e-mail me if you can help.  Thanks!
-Ross



From: "Dave Morrison" <davemor@gte.net>
Subject: FS or trade Portabrace
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 14:19:49 -0500

I have a Portabrace case for the Tascam DA-P1. It's in excellent shape and
I'd like to sell it or trade it for a Portabrace AR1000 case for the HHb
Portadat. Offers?
dave





From: "d kelly" <dckelly43@earthlink.net>
Subject: DVD audio?
Reply-To: "d kelly" <dckelly43@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:16:13 -0600

Hello,
I've got a box of Hewlett Packard DVD+RW discs.  # C4439A... I got them from
a friend who worked for HP.  Discs hold 3.0GB...  The cd inserts say they
can be used as cdr for music.  sounds to me like 3.0 gb  could hold 4+ hours
of tunes?   Does anyone have the capabilities to burn on these discs?  I
sure dont..  If anyone can use them let me know.  or if there is a site
where I could learn more about DVD audio I'd appreciate a link or something.
Thanks in advance,
dk

My cdr/dat list & more:
http://home.earthlink.net/~dckelly43





From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: reusing dat tapes?
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 17:15:22 -0500 (EST)

> Can a DAT tape be reused?

Yes.

> If I reuse a DAT tape, precautions before reusing it? (do I have to erase 
> ID's manually, etc???)

Best is to use a bulk eraser that can handle dat tapes (not a cassette
eraser; something like the Geneva PF-215 would work.  Otherwise, don't
bother; erasing ID's won't matter, as far as I can tell.

> Before taping any show, I skip 2 minutes of tape, either by pressing the 
> play button or by recording a blank fragment. Is there anything wrong with 
> this?

If you skip the first two minute by pressing play, you won't have
ATIME when you record.  Recording blank is fine, but then you should
rewind well into that segment in order to ensure ATIME.

Seth



From: "Dan" <danzig@lightlink.com>
Subject: $2 to $3 each???
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 18:30:48 -0500



>
>From: Halfstep-2@webtv.net (Eric Reichenbach)
>Subject: Aiwa CD-recorder from Crutchfield - WARNING.
>Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:18:19 -0500 (EST)
>
>There was recently a post about this unit on sale for $300. Well, it is
>likely a great unit for the price, but it only uses audio CDrs which are
>damn expensive (~$2-3 each.) It does not accept the computer CDrs that
>most of us use.  >Just an FYI.

"Music" CDR's might cost $2 or $3 each at the music store at the mall but
look carefully, KMART had 30 packs on a spindle in their flyer today for
$19.99. Staples has them for under $1 each in quantities too.

If the presence of SCMS and the use of music CDR's isn't a concern to
someone the AIWA might not be a bad deal.

Dan




From: "Vikas Bhatia" <vikas10@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO:  Tool  shows
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 19:08:46 -0500


SSIA, lookin for shows from any year.  preferably ones with known source
info, and ones that dont come from bootleg cds.  have many tool shows to
trade, plus related artists.

also, any european dat-heads, please contact me if you plan on taping any of
the tool shows this may-june .  since many of them are festival dates, i'm
assuming alot of them will also be aired on the radio or television, either
in its entirety or parts of the set.

thanks

http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~vbhatia/tapes.html





From: Dave DiMartino <digitaldimar@yahoo.com>
Subject: ISO:JID S.D. and H.O.B. tonight  L.A.
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 21:02:07 -0800 (PST)

Have A ton to trade! JID! DAT,PCM or CDR , up to
you. Thanks 

__________________________________________________
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Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices.
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From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: sony dgp/dap1 tape help
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:17:34 -0500 (EST)

> i formatted the tape, and waited for the show to start. well, when
> the band came out i pressed record/pause and the tape began to
> format again.

That shouldn't happen.  The first format spaces the tape several
seconds in.  (I don't know what the problem was.  Try it again, with
the same tape and another tape, and see what happens.)

The method I recommend is to start by recording two minutes of
silence, then back up and record 5 seconds of pre-show noise at about
1:10 in, then back up and play it (just look at the levels, no
headphones needed).  Then back up to 1:00 and pause, start recording
when appropriate.

Seth



From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: sony POC-DA12 cable
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 00:34:31 -0500 (EST)

> the box shows a D3 being connected to a cd player w/the optical IN  (??)

In to the dat, presumably.

> and the out connected to a digital amplifier, etc.. i guess i don't
> get that. i dont need to have the in and out both connected at the
> same time, do i?

No; but if you do, you might be able to play the cd player through the
dat to the digital amp.

> One more question: on the 7-pin end, there is a digital/analog switch.
> if i'm using this cable, doesn't it have to be digital?

If you want to record from analog with the cable plugged in, set the
switch to analog.  (That uses the usual analog connector, of course.)

Seth



From: Jacob Alifrangis <Jacob@jaemultimedia.com>
Subject: Digital Multi input matrix
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 22:24:16 -0800

Are there any of the following devices available for under $800:

    1. Digital Matrix Box:
        8 to 16 Digital S/PDIF and / or Toslink In
        2 to 8 Digital S/PDIF and / or Toslink Out
    
    2. Digital Mixing Panel with 8 ins
        Like the Tascam US448 only all digital and 8 usable inputs Tascam
only has 1 dig in

    3. Consumer or Pro Integrated Pre-Amplifier / Amplifier with 5 or more
ins
    
    4. Soundcard for PC or MAC with 8 S/PDIF In and 2 or 4 out.
        (Must be able to route signals)



When I'm talking about inputs I am considering a 2 ch stereo S/PDIF
connection.

Also, are there cheap but good A/D and D/A Converters out there?

Right now, I'm using a Minidisc Deck as a D/A A/D Converter.

Cheers!




From: "Jonas \(a.k.a. MiKeJ\)" <jonas831@acmemail.net>
Subject: Someone who can transfer MD > CDR digitally?
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 21:04:06 +1030

Is there anyone here that has these capabilities? I can't afford a
standalone deck for the MD's since I'm saving up for a DAT. So if anyone is
interested in transferring some of my masters for me every now and then
please let me know, preferably in Australia, but if outside we can organize
somethings

Thanks
-Mike

http://www.envy.nu/austaper/




From: Warren Melnick <warren.melnick@astata.com>
Subject: RE: NOMAD Jukebox
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:01:50 -0500

Len,

There is no "official" 20 gig version of the Nomad available.  The ones that
you see for sale have had the 6 gig drive removed and a 20 gig drive put in
its place.  These units come without any warranty from Creative Labs.

================
Warren Melnick
Director of Research and Development
Astata Corporation




=====Original Message=====

From: Len Moskowitz [mailto:moskowit@core-sound.com]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 3:07 PM
To: DAT-heads@datheads.phish.net
Cc: gpavan@telnetwork.it
Subject: Re: NOMAD Jukebox


Gianni Pavan <gpavan@telnetwork.iti> wrote:

> It is possible to replace the Hard Disk ?

A 20 Gbyte model is available.

> The recording level is automatic or manual ? how it is possible to set it 
> correctly ?
> 
> It is reliable ?

It's not ready for reliable field recording.

See the Creative Labs newsgroup for the Nomads, accessible via their Web
site. You'll find many answers and a reasonably knowledgable user group
there.


Len Moskowitz             Binaural and StealthMics (tm), Cables, Interfaces
Core Sound                http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey       http://www.core-sound.com
moskowit@core-sound.com   Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912




From: "travitz" <travitz@op.net>
Subject: apogee 1000E-20 & apogee ps-1000E Power Supply
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:20:30 -0500

There is a good chance I'll have onw of these for sale let me know if your
interested

DA1000E-20
Apogee's DA1000E-20 is a portable, stereo, Digital to Analog Converter that
provides a professional reference standard for uncolored monitoring of
digital audio sources. Applications include open reel and video based
recorders for CD mastering, DAT Recorders, Hard Disk Recorders, Digital
Audio Workstations, multi-track applications, and CD players. The DA1000E-20
features 20 Bit resolution with unequaled sonic performance and versatility.
UNITS ARE MOUNTED ON APOGEE HEATSINK RACKMOUNT WITH THE INCLUDED POWER
UNIT:"PS-1000E TOROIDAL DUEL LINEAR POWER SUPPLY". CORDS INCLUDED.







From: "Bruno Globensky" <bruno.globensky@videotron.ca>
Subject: Jerry Cantrell tour dates: 
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:25:55 -0500

Jerry Cantrell (of Alice in Chains) is touring again. He has a bunch of new
songs and a new band which includes Mike Bordin and Rob Trujillo, among
others. The dates:

March 13, 2001 Slim's San Francisco, CA
March 14, 2001 The Boardwalk Sacramento, CA
March 16, 2001 Galaxy Santa Ana, CA
March 17, 2001 The Joint Las Vegas, NV
March 19, 2001 Cane's San Diego, CA
March 20, 2001 Nile Theatre Phoenix, AZ
March 21, 2001 The Rialto Tucson, AZ
March 22, 2001 Launchpad Albuquerque, NM
March 24, 2001 Bluebird Theatre Denver, CO
March 26, 2001 Granada Theatre Lawrence, KS
March 27, 2001 Galaxy St. Louis, MO
March 29, 2001 Engine Room Houston, TX
March 30, 2001 La Zona Rosa Austin, TX
March 31, 2001 Gypsy Tea Room Dallas, TX
April 2, 2001 Juanita's Little Rock, AK
April 3, 2001 Dave's On Dickson Fayetteville, AK
April 4, 2001 The Other Side Tulsa, OK
April 5, 2001 Will Rogers Theatre Oklahoma City, OK

A few dates are covered so far, but if anyone plans on taping any of these,
please get in touch. Stealth is required.

First 3 to e-mail me after the digest hits my mailbox will get a b:p off my
list: www.angelfire.com/ca3/skinned/index.html









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