DAT-heads Digest #814
Contents:
re: Digital Matrix (Klay Anderson)
Mic Cabling (Klay Anderson)
Brian Wilson Tribute, Paul Simon Texas shows ("Roy Dripps")
ISO: Tapers for Joe Ely Band & Flatlander shows (William.Otten@LibertyMutual.com)
Need help with a DAT tape that wont load (SCHUBIDOO@aol.com)
Looking For Advice on a Digital Patchbay Or Selectable I/O box (Thomas_Denman@lotus.com)
Crowded House (KindTaper@aol.com)
Soundblaster Live Platinum Edition ("esoma")
Lenny Breau Documentary (Adam Aronson)
Re: sony POC-DA12 cable (Len Moskowitz)
Re: Taping with a Sony PCM-M1 (Len Moskowitz)
new tapers group (Steve Marshall)
Extra Phil and Friends 8/8/98 ("Clay R. Caroselli")
FS: AKG Blue Lines w/ ck91 & ck98 Caps ("Tim Murray")
Chilli Peppers / Neil Young in LA last week..... (Matthew Thayer)
Radio Audio/Video Patchbay ("Pat K")
ISO 'Easy to Slip' ("Michael Ryan")
ISO CD manufacture program ("Michael Ryan")
120 meter tapes on ebay or for trade (r2d2@quik.com)
(no DAT content) win a free copy of the new Blind Faith deluxe (Steve Marshall)
FS: AKG C1000S URGENT!! (GuitarBud7@aol.com)
From: Klay Anderson <klay@klay.com>
Subject: re: Digital Matrix
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 07:38:13 -0700
From: Jacob Alifrangis <Jacob@jaemultimedia.com>
Subject: Digital Multi input matrix
Asked:
> Are there any of the following devices available for under $800:
>
>1. Digital Matrix Box:
>8 to 16 Digital S/PDIF and / or Toslink In
>2 to 8 Digital S/PDIF and / or Toslink Out
There are a few. We are dealers for all these products and I offer brief
descriptions. The first is the Fostex DS8. It is an 8x8 matrix with 6
optical and 2 coaxial connections; 96khz. 1ru high, US$299. + shipping.
See:
http://www.fostex.co.jp/int/pages/products/access/ds8.htm
Then there is the Friend-Chip unit, the DMX 12/8. It is for SPDIF and ADAT
and has 6 optical and 6 coaxial connections. US$459. + shipping. It can be
upgraded to 12x12. See:
http://www.friend-chip.de/dmx8.htm
They also make the DMX16 which is a modular 1ru unit. You can add modules
to make any by any matrix up to 16x16 (including AES/EBU). Average price is
about US$750. See:
http://www.friend-chip.de/dmx16.htm
> 2. Digital Mixing Panel with 8 ins Like the Tascam US448 only all digital and
> 8 usable inputs Tascam only has 1 dig in
You must mean the US428; a real POS. Run the other way.
Look at the RolandED U8; US$449. See:
http://edirol.plands.com/shop/prod-page.ddp?itemcode=362168c&session=6617573
3&cat=Hardware
This area of the market is quite new; I am sure there will be more offerings
as the demand increases.
> Also, are there cheap but good A/D and D/A Converters out there?
One excellent value we sell is the Sek'd ADDA2496S. It goes both ways in a
1/2 rack unit, 96k 24 bit capable and only US$899. See:
http://www.sekd.com/product_main/2496s_info.htm
Thanks!
--
Regards,
Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E.
Klay Anderson Audio, Inc.
http://www.klay.com
1.800.FOR.KLAY
From: Klay Anderson <klay@klay.com>
Subject: Mic Cabling
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 08:23:56 -0700
From: avps <avps@erols.com>
Subject: need pcm-m1 1/8" mic in to (2)xlr wiring diagram
Asked:
> i just bought a pcm-m1 and want to make up the cables so that i can put two
> xlr mics into the 1/8" trs(rts?) input. does anyone have have a written or
> drawn diagram on how to do this?
If you are not very good with a soldering iron, I recommend buying custom
cables made by one of the vendors that frequent this list. The price paid
is well worth the potential of failure. We offer custom snake cables, two
mic cables in one very flexible jacket terminating in FXLR on one end and
robust mini TRS on the other made in any practical length at reasonable
prices.
Thanks!
--
Regards,
Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E.
Klay Anderson Audio, Inc.
http://www.klay.com
1.800.FOR.KLAY
From: "Roy Dripps" <royd@lakinlaw.com>
Subject: Brian Wilson Tribute, Paul Simon Texas shows
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 09:24:47 -0600
Anyone taping the Brian Wilson tribute at Radio City Music Hall on 3/29/01
or any of the Paul Simon Texas shows in late April/early May? E-mail me at
royd@lakinlaw.com
From: William.Otten@LibertyMutual.com
Subject: ISO: Tapers for Joe Ely Band & Flatlander shows
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 10:37:35 -0500
Looking for tapers for any/all of these upcoming shows.
Sat, Mar 17, 2001 Ft. Worth TX Caravan of Dreams
Fri, Apr 20, 2001 Austin, TX Stubbs (Flatlanders Show)
Sat, Apr 21, 2001 Ft Worth, TX Main Street Arts Festival Downtown
(Flatlanders Show)
Sat, Apr 28, 2001 La Porte, TX Sylvan Beach Fest
Sat, May 12, 2001 Conroe, TX Conroe Cajun Catfish Festival
Fri, May 25, 2001 Yosemite, CA Strawberry Music Festival (Flatlanders Show)
Sat, May 26, 2001 Petaluma, CA Mystic Theater (Flatlanders Show)
Tue, May 29, 2001 Los Angeles, CA House of Blues (Flatlanders Show)
Thu, May 31, 2001 San Francisco, CA Slims (Flatlanders Show)
Fri, Jun 1, 2001 Saratoga, CA Villa Montalvo Art Center (Flatlanders Show)
Sat, Jun 2, 2001 San Francisco, CA The San Francisco Symphony presents The
Black and White Ball (Flatlanders Show)
Sat, Jun 9, 2001 Lubbock Texas For the Cancer Society at the V-8 Ranch at
Buffalo Lake (Ely Band)
Sun, Jun 24, 2001 Fort Worth TX Botanical Gardens
Sun, Jul 15, 2001 Chicago, IL Folk and Roots Festival (Flatlanders Show)
Sat, Aug 4, 2001 Newport, RI Newport Folk Festival (Flatlanders Show)
Sat and Sun Aug 11,12, 2001 Edmonton, Alberta, Canada - Edmonton Folk
Festival (Flatlanders Show)
Sat, Aug 19, 2001 Lubbock TX Cactus theater Legends of Texas Series (Solo
Acoustic Show)
Thanks,
Bill
From: SCHUBIDOO@aol.com
Subject: Need help with a DAT tape that wont load
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:24:45 EST
Hello,
Last Saturday I taped Steve Earle in Seattle. The tape turned out great.
I used Audio Technica 853->Zefiro inbox->M1.
I listened to it after the show and could tell it was rewinding weirdly. I
didn't want to use a 90 meter tape but didn't want to switch tapes since I
was stealthing.
I should have just transfered it when I played it the first time.
Now I can't get it to load. The tape keeps coming ou of the shell.It's
rewound all the way to the beggining.
Would any of you be willing to try to transfer this tape to another DAT or to
a CD for me?
I can send a trade along and blanks etc.
By the way- I love the Zefiro! It really improvves the sound I get with the
AT's and the DPA 4061's.
Thanks,
Kurt
From: Thomas_Denman@lotus.com
Subject: Looking For Advice on a Digital Patchbay Or Selectable I/O box
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:29:29 -0500
I now have 4 digi decks each capable of both optical and coax I/O and need
a box I cqan use to switch between source and record deck combinations. I
was wondering what is out there that's suited to this purpose. Ease of use
is more important than price.
Peace,
Tom
From: KindTaper@aol.com
Subject: Crowded House
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:48:33 EST
Anyone have or know of these shows:
1) Roxy, Atlanta, GA 1994
2) Orpheum, Boston, MA during "Woodface" tour, ~ 1991
Please e-mail me if you have either or know where I might find them.
Thanks,
Wes
Kindtaper@aol.com
From: "esoma" <esoma@earthlink.net>
Subject: Soundblaster Live Platinum Edition
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:50:21 -0500
hi,
has anyone in the list tried the Soundbaster Live Platinum Edition and what
are their thoughts?
Any other recommendations for sounds cards with Line In\Out and Digital
In\Out?
thanks
esoma
From: Adam Aronson <adam@aronson.net>
Subject: Lenny Breau Documentary
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:55:39 -0500
A very dear friend and non-trader has asked me to find this documentary film
for him about the late guitar player Lenny Breau:
http://www.telefilm.gc.ca/en/prod/tv/tv99/115.htm
Anyone have a copy...?
Adam
--
Online list of tradable audio:
http://www.aronson.net/audiolist.html
From: Len Moskowitz <moskowit@panix.com>
Subject: Re: sony POC-DA12 cable
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:11:58 -0500 (EST)
"James Ballen" <ballenjames@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I just inherited one of these sony cables from a kind friend. it is
> definitely pretty old since the box shows it in use w/a D3... but it works.
> I want to use it w/my sony D7 DAT recorder to either send a digi-signal to a
> stand-alone burner for flawless conversion, and also to patch at shows...
> is this possible?
Yes, it is, but coaxial daisy chains are more common for patches at
shows.
> the box shows a D3 being connected to a cd player w/the optical IN (??) and
> the out connected to a digital amplifier, etc.. i guess i don't get that. i
> dont need to have the in and out both connected at the same time, do i?
No. Either, both or none can be connected with no ill effects.
> One more question: on the 7-pin end, there is a digital/analog switch.
> if i'm using this cable, doesn't it have to be digital?
The switch lets the recorder know which input it should be listening to:
analog (mic or line) or digital.
I hope this helped!
Len Moskowitz Binaural and StealthMics (tm), Cables, Interfaces
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com
moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
From: Len Moskowitz <moskowit@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Taping with a Sony PCM-M1
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:15:09 -0500 (EST)
"Marc Jacobson" <marcj421@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Another taper came along with a D8 and asked if I'd let him jump in front of
> me in the chain because I couldn't pass a signal along to him due to voltage
> differences. I had never heard this before and due to a bad experience a
> week ago at Mike Clark (dropouts for no good reason from a patch out of an
> Oade cable from a D8) I hesitated (although I offered to make him clones and
> mail them out today, he declined).
>
> Another taper in front of me in the chain complained that he has had trouble
> in the past with M1's that were BEHIND him and that they caused a "buzzing"
> on his tape!
>
> After a quick search at the DAT-Heads FAQ I couldn't find anything that
> spoke to these two questions:
> 1. What's the deal with a voltage difference between the M1 and other decks?
> Is the M1 incompatible with all other decks, or just D8s?
Here's the "7-Pin Cable Bible" post again:
To: DAT-heads@fedney.near.net
Subject: Re: Core Sound 7-Pin Cables
Cc: Eric Angel <ejangel@ucdavis.edu>
--text follows this line--
Eric Angel <ejangel@ucdavis.edu> wrote:
> I was just about to buy a Core Sounds 7-pin-to-coax I/O combo and a
> coax-to-7 pin to use with my D8 when a nice DAT trader told me to avoid
> Core Sounds 7-pin cables because they are poorly made and can short my
> deck. What experiences have other people had with these cables? I was
> planning on using the 7-pin to coax I/O combo to patch into a deck with
> a coax output, and plugging that into the coax-to-7 pin to use as a
> 7-pin to 7-pin if I'm patching out of a D3/7/8. I would appreciate
> hearing anyone's opinions on these cables and my intended use for them.
We've sold many hundreds of 7-pin cables over the three-plus years that
we've offered them and have heard of exactly two shorting problems. In
both cases the folks using the cable plugged the cable in while the
decks were powered (a no-no), and then bent two pins on the far end of
the cable (the side not plugged in) so that they shorted against each
other. (You can't short two pins on a plug that's inserted into a
deck.)
We build our own 7-Pin plugs, perhaps the only company in the world
other than Sony to do so. Our's are not as rugged as Sony's but then
again they don't cost $50 per plug. (We could build a cable using Sony
plugs just like the Oade Brothers' nice cable, but we feel that a simple
cable shouldn't cost $100 or more.)
We use good quality pins that can bend if you're not careful, but it
takes a determined effort to break them -- you'd have to bend them back
and forth quite a ways (30 degrees or more) more than once (like five or
six times -- we've done it). If you just bend them just a little bit,
you can just bend them back in place with no problems over many (more
than twenty) cycles. In fact, until last month, we'd never heard of a
pin breaking -- then a cable finally came back with a broken pin. To
our knowledge it was broken off while outside of the deck due to serious
mishandling.
Our cables are assembled by technicians trained to meet US Department of
Defense construction standards. We use high quality components including
Mil-Spec teflon-insulated coaxial cable.
We offer two types of 7-pin plugs: straight and right angle. We don't
recommend that the straight plugs be used out in the field where the
decks will be moved around. The right angle plugs though, are more
rugged and that's what we recommend for use at concerts.
We're glad to supply more varieties of 7-Pin cables than anyone,
including Sony. There are many hundreds of our cables are out there
serving folks well. With them you can connect your Sony portable DAT to
just about any other deck. They come with our usual trial money-back
offer -- even so we get very few back. Given a bit care, they'll serve
you well for many years.
> 2. Has anyone ever heard of a deck in the back of a chain, messing with the
> quality of a recording in the front of a chain? This just doesn't seem
> logical to me.
It's very, very unlikely but I suppose it could happen in some weird
circumstances.
I hope this helped.
Len Moskowitz Binaural and StealthMics (tm), Cables, Interfaces
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com
moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
From: Steve Marshall <stevem@thenightowl.com>
Subject: new tapers group
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 12:20:07 -0600
Hi Everyone,
I've just created a new list called St. Louis Tapers. In a nutshell, it's a
place for anyone in the St. Louis area (or anyone else who's interested) to
trade tapes, etc. There will be trees, vines, etc. The first will probably
be the recent Jeff Beck show here at The Pageant. If you'd like to join the
list, all you have to do is go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/stltapers/join
or send an email to:
stltapers-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Hope to see you there!
Steve
Steve Marshall
Editor - The Night Owl
stevem@thenightowl.com
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From: "Clay R. Caroselli" <claycar@stargate.net>
Subject: Extra Phil and Friends 8/8/98
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:40:42 -0500
As the subject says.... It's available.... recorded with Schoeps MK-4's.
Looking for CD or DAT trade in return possibly.
Thanks,
Clay
~Check out My DAT and CDR list~
http://users.sgi.net/~claycar/list.htm
From: "Tim Murray" <32Things@home.com>
Subject: FS: AKG Blue Lines w/ ck91 & ck98 Caps
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 13:51:45 -0500
For sale:
2 AKG 300's
2 ck91 caps (cardioid),
2 ck98 caps (shotgun),
2 AKG b18 power sources
Price: $1200 firm
They are in very good condition and have been the source of many
great tapes... I'm selling to upgrade to AKG 480's.
Thanks.
Tim
32things@home.com
From: Matthew Thayer <mattt317@yahoo.com>
Subject: Chilli Peppers / Neil Young in LA last week.....
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 11:18:19 -0800 (PST)
Security was SuPeR tight for this show two weeks ago,
but was anyone able to get it on tape?
Searching for a copy for a friend who was there.
Cheers, Matt
PS - Plan on recording Steve Malkmus at the Fillmore
tonight if anyone is interested.
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From: "Pat K" <Hoobash@hotmail.com>
Subject: Radio Audio/Video Patchbay
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:18:38 -0500
I have a radio shack patchbay that has a video input with 3 outputs,Left
audio input 3 outputs and right audio input with 3 outputs. All 3 channels
are amplifed. I tested the unit and it seems to pass digital signal out all
the outputs with no troubles. Is this a usable patchbay in the field?? It
seems to work fine but is there any reason not to use it?
From: "Michael Ryan" <beerman@gte.net>
Subject: ISO 'Easy to Slip'
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:40:31 -0800
hey Now all, Just back from my fourth funeral in two weeks and was asked
at this last one by the deceased's wife for a high quality 'Easy to Slip' by
either the Dead ( 1st preference ) or ???? . I would love to help her out as
their first show was a Dead show and while they are ( were) only 30 yo. I
know they enjoyed many a show. Please only VERY high quality shows ...
TIA, Michael
From: "Michael Ryan" <beerman@gte.net>
Subject: ISO CD manufacture program
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 16:47:35 -0800
Hey Now All! I seem to remember that there was a URL or program that
allowed one to find out the true identity of the manufacturing company of
most any CD( Rs and RWs also) . I have searched the archives but am not
finding it. Stress makes an attention span very short some times.
TIA, Michael
From: r2d2@quik.com
Subject: 120 meter tapes on ebay or for trade
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 05:51:24 -0800
I have 5 of these on ebay but have about 100 more .
since these retail for $20.00 new and one pass (these are 1 pass) for
about 14.00 I'd be willing to trade straight across for anyone who would
spin audio tapes on either 60 or 90 meter tapes. If used for audio
these tapes get 4 hours per tape at sp !! although not recommended for
audio
(just like 90 meters arent) some people on the list use them... Gary D.
so if you have a computer dat drive and want to get some affordable 120
meter tapes drop me a line and we can deal looking for most any
artists as these tapes are no good to me .
From: Steve Marshall <stevem@thenightowl.com>
Subject: (no DAT content) win a free copy of the new Blind Faith deluxe
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 20:59:13 -0600
Hi Everyone,
Well, we've had this contest up for over a week now & out of all the
responses we've gotten, NO ONE has gotten all the questions right! They're
really not that difficult. All the answers (well, OK, all but one) can be
found on our site. All you need to do to win is answer them all correctly.
We've got 2 copies ready to giveaway. Check it out if you get a chance....
Steve
Steve Marshall
Editor - The Night Owl
stevem@thenightowl.com
<http://www.thenightowl.com>
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From: GuitarBud7@aol.com
Subject: FS: AKG C1000S URGENT!!
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 22:24:08 EST
Hey everyone..
as you may or may not know, I have my akg c1000s up for sale.
i am looking to sell these by the end of this week! my price is 300, but i
guess since it is short notice, i might be able t obargain with ya, so please
email me at Guitarbud7@aol.com or AIM me at Guitarbud7
these mics are in incredibly nice condition
thank you for your time
mark goodell
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