DAT-heads Digest #816

Contents:
  SXSW (Aaron Taylor)
  RE:Radio Audio/Video Patchbay (CosmicKC@aol.com)
  ISO Current SCI (Duncan Oldham)
  Posies (Smashmark@aol.com)
  Pork Tornado Tour Dates ("Darrin McKeehen")
  Nero question (burning problems resolved) ("Joshua")
  Re: Nero question (burning problems resolved) (Seth Breidbart)
  Dat heads submission (DaKingB@aol.com)
  Re: help w/mic's [CDub} & DAT>CDR loudness increase ("Owen O'Neill")
  re: sony rk-da10 ("j manniello")
  Newbie (jopeter1)
  Correction  ISO:  SCI 6/5/98  -  Hoodoo Bash! ("David Maley")
  ISO 2 tix for moe. Omaha (Julie Glendenning)
  Los Super Seven Tapers Needed (Dan Gale)
  ISO Florida Tapers (Dan Gale)
  ISO: Virgos Merlot recordings ("Kris Sproul")
  taping at the palladium in worcester, ma ("Gray Proulx")
  ISO: Sam Bush 3/1/2001 Rams Head Tavern (Tim DiPaula)
  Eliminating pops and clicks
  allmans 3-24 (Scott C. Brown)
  dat>cdr ("Marc Nutter")
  Len's 7-Pin Bible (Beast914@aol.com)
  ISO: Carole King 1982 Tour Only ("Tatina, Bill")
  FS: Graham Patten ADC 20 (Matthew Blum)
  Disco Biscuit B&P ("Ray Quinlan")


From: Aaron Taylor <att9@nc.rr.com>
Subject: SXSW
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 17:56:44 -0700

Anybody taping shows at SXSW?I have some ND type related stuff to trade for
a tape of the Drive by Truckers.They will be playing 3 times during the
week.My stuff is on burned on CD because I only have one deck.I can offer
Blue Mountain,Kenny Roby,Fred Eaglesmith,Scott Miller,Peter Bruntnell,Chris
Mills




From: CosmicKC@aol.com
Subject: RE:Radio Audio/Video Patchbay
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:53:42 EST

>From: "Pat K" <Hoobash@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Radio Audio/Video Patchbay
>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:18:38 -0500

>I have a radio shack patchbay that has a video input with 3 outputs,Left
>audio input 3 outputs and right audio input with 3 outputs. All 3 channels
>are amplifed. I tested the unit and it seems to pass digital signal out all
>the outputs with no troubles. Is this a usable patchbay in the field?? It
>seems to work fine but is there any reason not to use it?

IT's been working like a charm for us.  We help record sound for a local 
chicago jam band and we've been using this nifty little device for months 
now.  Get this it send 7 digital feeds (coaxial) and 7 analog feeds (rca).  
It is truly a piece of work.  Yup, the digital outs work just fine.  Remeber 
your only passing a signal and this doesn't muck up the sound or anything.  
here's the link.

http://www.smarthome.com/8141.html

Enjoy!

Kelly



From: Duncan Oldham <duncan@epix.net>
Subject: ISO Current SCI
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:07:02 -0500

Hello Thanks for the space !seeking any current Warfield
SCI shows ,nutters rig,fob schoeps, Neumanns,DSBD
have alot to offer in trade" duncan@epix.net
Thanks....Duncan






From: Smashmark@aol.com
Subject: Posies
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:45:32 EST

Hi..

I taped Ken stringfellow and the Minus Five last night and im looking for 
some Posies shows on DAT or CD 

email me at  smashmark@aol.com

thanx!



From: "Darrin McKeehen" <dmckeehen@hotmail.com>
Subject: Pork Tornado Tour Dates
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 01:17:19 

Phish drummer Jon Fishman's funky side project Pork Tornado will embark on a 
series of club dates throughout the Northeast in April. In addition to 
Fishman, the band includes Dan Archer on guitar, Phil Abair on keys, Aaron
Hersey on bass, and Joe Moore on sax and vocals. The tentative schedule is 
as follows:

April 5 - Pearl Street, Northampton, MA
        http://www.iheg.com/pearl.htm

April 6 - Paradise Rock Club, Boston, MA
        http://www.dlclive.com/

April 7 - Met Cafe, Providence, RI
        http://www.lupos.com/

April 12 - Toad's Place, New Haven, CT
        http://www.toadsplace.com/

April 13 - Armory High, Syracuse, NY
        http://www.tickets.com/ (888-223-6000)
        other information: 315-472-2665

April 14 - Milestones, Rochester, NY
        http://www.milestonesmusicroom.com/


Please watch http://www.porktornado.com/ for accurate information.

Also, Seth is correct about bribing ushers. I have found the best thing to 
do is burn some discs of some shows and take the discs w/ you to the show 
that you are taping. Not only can you bribe the ushers, but you can bribe 
some of the people around you........

Just a thought ")

Peace & moe.

Darrin

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From: "Joshua" <sprung598@yahoo.com>
Subject: Nero question (burning problems resolved)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 18:34:03 -0800

Nero seems to blaze right through the disks that I received that CDRWin was
choking on.  I'm using the wizard to copy an audio CD - where does it write
the image to by default?  Can you change that?  I've got my drive in two
partitions, a system and a larger one that I use to store audio files, and
I'd like to have it buffer the image in the larger of the two.

Thanks!

-Josh


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From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Nero question (burning problems resolved)
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 20:52:55 -0500 (EST)

> Nero seems to blaze right through the disks that I received that CDRWin was
> choking on.  I'm using the wizard to copy an audio CD - where does it write
> the image to by default?

You should use EAC (www.exactaudiocopy.de) to extract digital audio
from CDs.  Anything else is much more likely to extract with errors.

Seth



From: DaKingB@aol.com
Subject: Dat heads submission
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:12:30 EST

AKG C-414 mic special for DAT HEADS:

Brand new, sealed, factory fresh AKG C-414 microphone with factory shockmount 
and windscreen.  not a refurb, not a b stock.  full warrantee.

AKG C-414 BULS: $699
AKG C-414 TL-II:   $779

shipping $10

contact: dakingb@aol.com

paypal and money order accepted.




From: "Owen O'Neill" <oweno@home.com>
Subject: Re: help w/mic's [CDub} & DAT>CDR loudness increase
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:34:55 -0800

1)  I started last June w/MiniDisc and just now graduated to an M-1 w/SBM-1.
My first mic's were from Sound Professionals and I swear by them. His
"premium" mini-mic's are based on the Audio Technica AT853 cartridge and
I've had consistently good results.  The standard configuration is cardioid
heads. I had them make mine with hypercardioid instead because I frequently
record from further back and was concerned about picking up ambient crowd
noise from talkers nearby.  Good choice - they have great, relatively flat
response and kick ass for the price.  Core Sound also has its adherents but
I haven't tried their gear and can't comment from expereince.  I will attest
that the service and delivery I received from SP was first rate.  After a
month or so I realized I'd need mini shotguns for a few specific
applications and also something less directional than the hypers.  They
worked out a great trade deal for me to upgrade to the slimline version
which has changeable heads (the standard premiums are fixed head). Idid lots
of research before buying mic's based on ther AT853 and found many positive
comments in the DAT-heads digest archives.  No matter which brand you buy
make sure you spend the $$ for a battery box, preferably on with bass
roll-off and use the line input.. In my experience it makes a noticeable
diference in  sound quality compared to using the mic inputs.

2) I use CoolEdit but I suspect your prog is similar. Don't expect the
levels to be similar to what you'll find on a commercial CD. Producers for
commercial work often use (I believe) compression techniques that provide
remarkably consostent output levels across the whole disc. Use any ripping
prog to get a wav file form a commercial rock CD. Now compare the wav form
to that of a DAT that you recorded. Notice that the commercial CD yields a
wav form with high peaks and few long troughs (if any)?  The raw DAT
recording will have far bigger spikes from specific sounds (e.g. kick drums)
and great variation.  I've seen wav forms from DAT recordings that resembled
those of commercial releases but the live recordings were made using the mic
limiting feature and it affected quality in a noticeable way (even to my
less than golden ears).  I simply pick the biggest spikes of the overall
wav, highlight a small section and use the "calculate normalization level"
function included in the Amplitude section of the "Transform" pull down
menu.  It calculates the percentage increase needed to maximize that
selection to 100% allowable loudness.  I back off by 5-8% from that figure
and then try increasing the amplitude of the entire wav file.  Works very
well for louder lectric music but be cautious. Excessive normalization can
cause audible artifacts, particularly on acoustic music.  If you trade DAT's
or CDR's with folks who are fanatical about "untouched" material I suggest
you advise them that you normalized the material, just in the interest of
full disclosure.  I've gotten much better at setting levels and stil
normalize on occasion but event the cleanest DAT or MD recordings will
typically require higher volume settings to get the same level of sound.
Hope this helps.




From: "j manniello" <j_manniello@hotmail.com>
Subject: re: sony rk-da10
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 19:07:14 -0800

...how can i modify this to fit my zefiro in-box...(the cable is a 7-pin 
connector to a phono plug)...i was told this was the right one...

thanks
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From: jopeter1 <jopeter1@vt.edu>
Subject: Newbie
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:12:13 -0500

Hello-
I just purchased a sony pcm-m1 and I have a few questions.  What cables do I 
need to buy to patch to other tapers and to hook up to my stereo and computer.
 Also what is the taping policy of Phil and Friends...I know they allow it but 
I didnt get any tapers tickets.  If anyone is taping that show and are willing 
to let me hook up to their recorder please let me know.
Peace,
John Peters




From: "David Maley" <dmaley@nc.rr.com>
Subject: Correction  ISO:  SCI 6/5/98  -  Hoodoo Bash!
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 23:31:15 -0500

I'm looking for 6/5/98 not '99.  My apologies for any confusion  :)

==============================


From: "David Maley" <dmaley@nc.rr.com>
Subject: ISO:  SCI 6/5/99  -  Hoodoo Bash!
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 14:47:29 -0500

I'm in search of a super crispy copy of the SCI set from the Hoodoo Bash
opener on 6/5/99.  I have a fairly decent copy, but it has a few dropouts
and I'd like to upgrade it if possible.  If you have a sweet copy of this
show please take a look at my list
<http://sjfc.edu/~dam8503/list/dat_list.html> and see if I have anything I
can offer in trade.  Thanks in advance!

Peace,
Dave



From: Julie Glendenning <julieglen@earthlink.net>
Subject: ISO 2 tix for moe. Omaha
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 21:10:48 -0800

Sorry for the grovel...Last ditch effort to get tickets for this sold out
show. Let me know if you can help out. Cash/trade... 




From: Dan Gale <dgale@loslobos.org>
Subject: Los Super Seven Tapers Needed
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:41:00 -0800


I'm trying to locate some folks who are planning/able to tape the
upcoming Los Super Seven shows:

  03/14/01 House Of Blues, West Hollywood, CA
  03/15/01 La Zona Rosa, Austin, TX
  03/16/01 La Zona Rosa, Austin, TX
  03/20/01 Bowery Ballroom, New York, NY

This is the extent of their tour, so if you can make it, it is a great
chance to catch a rare show by these guys.  The official word is that
audience taping will be allowed, so please let me know if you catch one
of these shows as I'd love to trade for a copy.  Tons of related and
other material to trade.






From: Dan Gale <dgale@loslobos.org>
Subject: ISO Florida Tapers
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:53:11 -0800


I'm trying to locate some folks who can tape the following Los Lobos
shows coming up in Florida:

3/30/01 "Tampa Bay Blues Fest" - Vinoy Waterfront Park, St. Petersburg
FL
3/31/01 "Monster Hole Blues Fest" - Mesa Park Amphitheatre, Fellsmere FL

If you can catch/tape either of these shows, please let me know.  As
always, audience taping is allowed at Los Lobos shows - contact me for
info.  Tons of stuff to trade - contact me for the link to my lists.

Thanks,  Dan






From: "Kris Sproul" <kris@ksproul.threadnet.com>
Subject: ISO: Virgos Merlot recordings
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 01:56:51 -0500

I'm in search of any live recordings (DAT, tape, CD, video)
of the band Virgos, formerly known as Virgos Merlot and
The Devine.  If anyone has anything at all, I'd greatly appreciate
it if you'd e-mail me.  Thanks!

Kris Sproul
kris@ksproul.threadnet.com
http://ksproul.threadnet.com/




From: "Gray Proulx" <grayp@pinn.net>
Subject: taping at the palladium in worcester, ma
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 08:07:44 -0500

hello,
i'll be in ma for business and will probably tape strangefolk at the above
club.
has anyone taped there before that can offer advice.  usually i bring a
bunch of clamps & extra cables to allow clamping from the balcony ...,
however since i'll also be travelling with a lot of stuff for work, i was
hoping to cut down on the amount of stuff i bring.
any experiences with the club would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,
gray

grayp@pinn.net




From: Tim DiPaula <DiPaula@rdacustomsoftware.com>
Subject: ISO: Sam Bush 3/1/2001 Rams Head Tavern
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:23:26 -0500

Please contract me if you have this show.  I have a good variety to trade
from.
Thanks.



From:  <paul.j.cho@us.pwcglobal.com>
Subject: Eliminating pops and clicks
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 09:39:27 -0500

Hello all,

I know this isn't directly DAT related, but I also know that a lot of
people here digitially edit their DATS on a computer so I hope it is
somewhat relevant.

I taped a band the other night at a small restaurant, and I (or the band
for that matter!) didn't have time to do a sound check.  I was able to
setup my mics right in front of the which lead to a strong sounding tape,
but unfortunately I have some pops and clicks on the first song, most
likely due to overloading and setting the levels too high.  I've used
SoundForge's Dynamic Compression effect to eliminate the loudness of the
clicks, but I'm wondering if anybody has any other pointers on how to
eliminate these pops.  The only other thing that I can think of is to lower
the volume completely during that split second where the pop takes place,
but that would definitely be noticeable.  Any ideas??

Thanks in advance!

-Paul
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From: Scott.C.Brown@Dartmouth.EDU (Scott C. Brown)
Subject: allmans 3-24
Reply-To: Scott.C.Brown@Dartmouth.EDU (scb)
Date: 14 Mar 2001 10:24:45 EST

friend is looking for a ticket, he'll be running km184 > v2 > adc20



From: "Marc Nutter" <nutter@sonicsense.com>
Subject: dat>cdr
Reply-To: "Marc Nutter" <nutter@sonicsense.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:05:33 -0700

Hi Gareth,

>Can someone please help me out. I have a few clean recordings on DAT that I
have recorded and now I want
>to transfer them to CDR. I have transfered a show from my D-7 to my
computer via my Midiman DiO 2448 >with a SPDIF cable. My show sounds great
but the level is a little low, but I cant figure out how to bump up the
>levels to a descent standard so I dont have to crank up the volume knob on
my stereo?? At the moment Im
>using Steinburgs Wavelab and using Peak Master to change the level of the
recording, but this seems a
>little hit and miss. I can get the highest spikes to peak, but when I burn
it and play the disc on my
>stereo it still seems not as loud as an orginal recording where I would
play that at 1/4 volume I
>would have to play mine at 1/2. Can some recommend a way that I can make my
recording louder or tell me
>what Im doing wrong. I have heard other DAT>CDR transfers and they so loud.

I saw your post on dat-heads and wanted to offer some input.
Depending on your software, there is probably a "normalize" feature which
should enable you to bring up the levels overall and assure that the loudest
peak is at 0dbfs.

Otherwise, you may want to consider that HHB CD-R 830 which offers digital
volume control and left/right balance of incoming digital signals.

Please let me know if I may be of further assistance.

Marc

Marc Nutter
Mojan Parker
Mike Remmers
Sonic Sense, Inc.
2755 S. Gilpin St.
Denver, CO  80210
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From: Beast914@aol.com
Subject: Len's 7-Pin Bible
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:28:58 EST

I read Len's "7-Pin" bible story to my 4 year old daughter last night.  She 
hated it.  Oh well; back to the old testament....

D



From: "Tatina, Bill" <Bill.Tatina@nordstrom.com>
Subject: ISO: Carole King 1982 Tour Only
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 12:15:05 -0700

I hear Eric Johnson played guitar for Carole on this whole tour and I would
love to hear some.






From: Matthew Blum <miblum@yahoo.com>
Subject: FS: Graham Patten ADC 20
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:31:34 -0800 (PST)

This unit is in excellent shape being used only twice.
 I am asking $400 plus shipping firm.  Please e-mail
me at miblum@yahoo.com if you are interested. I am
only selling this because I have come to the
realization that i cannot stealth with it. Thanks.
peace.

matthew

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From: "Ray Quinlan" <noray@advinc.com>
Subject: Disco Biscuit B&P
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 15:32:35 -0500

Just received a new Biscuit show I'd like to share: 12/27/00.  Thirty minute
"Unspoken Rhyme," as part of a killer second set.  B&P to the first couple.
Winners will be notified.

rq



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