DAT-heads Digest #819
Contents:
1 4 Woody Source ("Charlie Miller")
Re: 1 4 Woody Source (Seth Breidbart)
Attention Re-Sellers.... Looking for prices on ... (Thomas_Denman@lotus.com)
Wet Cleaning Kits; In Stock. (Klay Anderson)
Re: Wet vs. Dry ("Jack R. Lebowitz")
Battery fuses? and Ratdog BnP DAT offer (Rich Perlman)
Re: 1 4 Woody Source ("L. Sean Kennedy")
Re: 1 4 Woody Source ("Charlie Miller")
One for Woody source ("Darrin McKeehen")
Madison WI tapers!! (Bill Shaw)
Mac CD burning ("Dan")
Re: Wet vs. Dry #818 (GuySonic@aol.com)
Burners (Ben Ringo)
Grateful Dead, Reconstructed Capitol Theatre, 11-6&8-70, CD ("Venezia, Frank P")
FA: Core Sony 7-pin-to-XLR cable (Bill)
MMW w/Fishman offer (12-15-00) (Stephen Pzynski)
From: "Charlie Miller" <charliemiller87@earthlink.net>
Subject: 1 4 Woody Source
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 13:16:46 -0800
Doesn't the apogee have a pre-amp built into it? My friend uses the pre-amp
in the A/D1000 all the time.
cm
From: Alan Saferstein <gruvenon@netzero.net>
Subject: ISO ABB One for Woody source
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:14:31 -0500
I have ABB One For Woody. It's a very nice recording listed as
CMC641>A/D 2000>PCM-M1>HHB. Obviously this setups needs a
pre-amp/phantom (not to mention that the PCM-M1>HHB part is
irrelevant). Does anyone know what it was?
Thanks,
From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: 1 4 Woody Source
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:30:12 -0500 (EST)
>> I have ABB One For Woody. It's a very nice recording listed as
>> CMC641>A/D 2000>PCM-M1>HHB. Obviously this setups needs a
>> pre-amp/phantom (not to mention that the PCM-M1>HHB part is
>> irrelevant). Does anyone know what it was?
> Doesn't the apogee have a pre-amp built into it? My friend uses the pre-amp
> in the A/D1000 all the time.
The A/D 2000 isn't an Apogee, and doesn't have a phantom power supply
built in. (For high-level output mics, like B&K's, it's not clear if
a preamp is even needed. I've run mine directly into line level. I
don't know if the CMC's are that level output.)
Seth
From: Thomas_Denman@lotus.com
Subject: Attention Re-Sellers.... Looking for prices on ...
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 16:29:29 -0500
....the Fostex DS-8 or the MidiMan 12X6 Digital Patchbay
I currently already have quotes of $259 and $350 respectively.
As Bandwidth Tax I will offer the first three respondents to the following
email address a B&P of The Boston Horns 3/3/01 From Muddy River Smokehouse,
Portsmouth, New Hampshire .... MBHO 603As w/ KA200>MP-2>DA-P1 And I can do
it for the winners on either a 90m DAT or CDR. Please respond to:
windead@dreamcom.net
From: Klay Anderson <klay@klay.com>
Subject: Wet Cleaning Kits; In Stock.
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:58:15 -0700
mattz62@juno.com
Subject: Wet vs. Dry
Asked:
> Ok, I know the story of wet vs. dry head cleaners for DATs. Found this, which
> is interesting.
>
> http://www.americanrecorder.com/Appfiles/Catalog.taf?_function=detail&Pro
> ducts_uid1=DAT%2D101&_UserReference=77FA6A5C5CD1B7FEBE5B43B2
>
> It's a cassette type _WET_ cleaner. Anyone use one before?
We stock these at only US$29 and have had no problems. On an aside, we
prefer a wet cleaning as dry tapes tend to just move the dirt from one place
to another. The wet system does a better job of removing dirt.
Thanks!
--
Regards,
Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E.
Klay Anderson Audio, Inc.
http://www.klay.com
1.800.FOR.KLAY
From: "Jack R. Lebowitz" <jackl@lemreid.com>
Subject: Re: Wet vs. Dry
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:08:30 -0500
At 15:50 03/16/01 -0500, Matt Pfeil <mattz62@juno.com>wrote:
>Ok, I know the story of wet vs. dry head cleaners for DATs. Found this,
>which is interesting.
>
>http://www.americanrecorder.com/Appfiles/Catalog.taf?_function=detail&Pro
>ducts_uid1=DAT%2D101&_UserReference=77FA6A5C5CD1B7FEBE5B43B2
>
>It's a cassette type _WET_ cleaner. Anyone use one before? Is this
>thing abrasive like a Sony cleaning tape, etc.? Just looking to see if
>it's worthy of using in place of a dry cleaner, any info is welcome,
>thanks in advance.
I tried one of these a few years ago when I first got my DA-20 and really
couldn't get it to work...it wouldn't load in the machine properly, as I
recall, and there's this messy, imprecise process where you have to drip
some kind of highly volatile, quickly evaporating organic solvent (like
xylene) with a supplied dropper into a small hole in the back of the
cassette shell to wet the fabric "tape" inside.
I realize this thing is apparently sold as a "professional" recording
studio accessory, but personally, it seemed a lot less of a "precision"
device and maybe even potentially harmful to the delicate mechanism inside
my recorder than the typical "dry" cleaning tape...
These are just my superficial impressions of the product, however, your
(and others') mileage may vary...
J
From: Rich Perlman <montclair@cyburban.com>
Subject: Battery fuses? and Ratdog BnP DAT offer
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:31:34 -0500
Hey Dat-Heads,
Out of lurk mode......
I just built some SLA batteries for my V2 (new), ADC-20 and DA-P1 rig.
(2) 6V 7AH and (2) 6V 12AH. Each one has 2 sockets, so I can use 2
batteries for the 3 devices. The positive legs all have an in-line fuse
holder for those nice colored auto type fuses.
Can someone advise the best amperage fuse to use?? What do the
EcoCharge batteries have?
Offer: Ratdog at Hammerstein Ballroom - NYC, NY 11/20/99
Neumann SKM-184 (x/y 90) > MV-100 > ADC-20 > my Dat master > clone 1
I ran my rig DCF Loge, 8 foot stand. Sounds simply stunning. I have 3
clones on 90 meter dats that I did as seeds for a tree that never
happened.
I have plenty of dat blanks, so I'd like discs; say, 4 Mitsui or Taiyo
Yuden per dat.
BnP only - no trades, please.
Thanks,
Rich
From: "L. Sean Kennedy" <liam@fedney.tech.xo.com>
Subject: Re: 1 4 Woody Source
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 17:48:14 -0500
On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 04:30:12PM -0500, Seth Breidbart wrote:
>
> built in. (For high-level output mics, like B&K's, it's not clear if
> a preamp is even needed. I've run mine directly into line level. I
> don't know if the CMC's are that level output.)
Qualitatively I would say that the schoeps certainly provide
the same output level, although most of my experience is
with blue-dot CMC amplifiers which provide an extra 5db.
In fact my B&Ks were often straining on line input and I
found a big improvement using a mic preamp. Pre A2k or whatever
SS calls it.
Most people on this list would do better to make sure they
are in a good sounding point in the venue... and work on
microphone positioning technique. I have certainly heard
some truely lousy tapes made with AD1000 and the frills and
good tapes made with a PCM recorder and the Sony provided
filters/AD converter! (There is/was even someone on this list
who made some pretty damn good tapes of St. Stephen in '83
with Sennheiser 441s.... and I think a 14bit Technics
processor. )
Sean
From: "Charlie Miller" <charliemiller87@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: 1 4 Woody Source
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:48:15 -0800
I think that was Jeff Silbermans FOB PCM from 10/11/83. I was there and I
got the dat from his PCM. It is as good as it gets (My 2 cents)
cm
===== Original Message =====
From: L. Sean Kennedy
To: Seth Breidbart
Cc: charliemiller87@earthlink.net ; gruvenon@netzero.net ;
dat-heads@datheads.phish.net
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: 1 4 Woody Source
On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 04:30:12PM -0500, Seth Breidbart wrote:
>
> built in. (For high-level output mics, like B&K's, it's not clear if
> a preamp is even needed. I've run mine directly into line level. I
> don't know if the CMC's are that level output.)
Qualitatively I would say that the schoeps certainly provide
the same output level, although most of my experience is
with blue-dot CMC amplifiers which provide an extra 5db.
In fact my B&Ks were often straining on line input and I
found a big improvement using a mic preamp. Pre A2k or whatever
SS calls it.
Most people on this list would do better to make sure they
are in a good sounding point in the venue... and work on
microphone positioning technique. I have certainly heard
some truely lousy tapes made with AD1000 and the frills and
good tapes made with a PCM recorder and the Sony provided
filters/AD converter! (There is/was even someone on this list
who made some pretty damn good tapes of St. Stephen in '83
with Sennheiser 441s.... and I think a 14bit Technics
processor. )
Sean
From: "Darrin McKeehen" <dmckeehen@hotmail.com>
Subject: One for Woody source
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:14:16
From: Alan Saferstein <gruvenon@netzero.net>
Subject: ISO ABB One for Woody source
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:14:31 -0500
I have ABB One For Woody. It's a very nice recording listed as CMC641>A/D
2000>PCM-M1>HHB. Obviously this setups needs a pre-amp/phantom (not to
mention that the PCM-M1>HHB part is irrelevant). Does anyone know what it
was?
Thanks,
Alan
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I don't know how the A/D 1000 turned into an A/D 2000 or who tacked the >HHB
at the end, but these discs came from me.
My source is listed as: Schoeps CMC641>A/D1000>PCM-M1
I got my discs straight from Boca Bob, who was at the show and patched out
of this rig. To transfer the DAT to disc, I am sure that he DID use his HHB,
but I never tacked that at the end. Nor, do I think that I wrote A/D 2000,
but w/ the amount of trading that I have been doing...
I know that you got the Frog Brigade from me, which is A/D 2000. One of us
messed up.....
Blame me, I don't care ")
Also, I am pretty sure that Boca Bob burned my copies w/ his computer after
making the first copy w/ the HHB.
I don't know what software etc. Boca Bob uses.....?
I extracted the tracks w/ CDRWIN to my hardrive and burned them using CDRWIN
w/ my Yamaha SCSI burner.
If there's a problem w/ the source info listed above, maybe Boca Bob could
clarify, since he was lucky enough to be at the show and kind enough to burn
it fo me unconditionally.
FYI, The R500 is coming on Monday!!
The OADE'S had the best price by far!
Yahoo! No more unidecker for me!!!
Peace & moe.
Darrin
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From: Bill Shaw <Bill.Shaw@hds.com>
Subject: Madison WI tapers!!
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 15:07:54 -0800
short notice for a show TONIGHT (FRiday March 16th) at the Cafe Montmartre
in Madison featuring members of GARBAGE (at least guitarist Duke Erikson,
and the other members of the band will likely be there too). Here's a little
blurb that Shirley posted at garbage.com:
"Oh I nearly forgot: The Know It All Boyfriends are playing at the Cafe
Monmartre on friday night at 10pm.Expect to hear Duke singing "These Boots
are made for walking" in three different keys!!!!"
It's obviously very short notice but if anybody out there actually gets this
message in time, and could make tape of it, I'd be eternally grateful!
Today also happens to be Steve Marker's birthday (other Garbage guitarist)
so they will likely be in partying spirits...
thanks for the B/W. btw I have many Garbage masters with Neumann KM140's if
anybody's interested...
bill.shaw@hds.com
From: "Dan" <danzig@lightlink.com>
Subject: Mac CD burning
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:49:28 -0500
>I've been using Toast 4.1 and Soundjam MP Plus 2.5.2 together on an iMac
with real good results. This version of Soundjam allows you to make MP2,
MP3, WAV, and AIFF files. I was also using a beta version of Musicmatch
Jukebox with good results with Toast 4.1
>
>Dan
>
From: GuySonic@aol.com
Subject: Re: Wet vs. Dry #818
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 18:52:14 EST
In a message dated 3/16/01 1:10:23 PM Pacific Standard Time,
DAT-heads-Request@datheads.phish.net writes:
<< ------------------------------
From: mattz62@juno.com
Subject: Wet vs. Dry
Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:35:25 -0500
Ok, I know the story of wet vs. dry head cleaners for DATs. Found this,
which is interesting.
http://www.americanrecorder.com/Appfiles/Catalog.taf?_function=detail&Pro
ducts_uid1=DAT%2D101&_UserReference=77FA6A5C5CD1B7FEBE5B43B2
It's a cassette type _WET_ cleaner. Anyone use one before? Is this
thing abrasive like a Sony cleaning tape, etc.? Just looking to see if
it's worthy of using in place of a dry cleaner, any info is welcome,
thanks in advance.
Matt Pfeil
________________________________________________________________
>>
A discussion about some aspects of DAT deck maintenance and the 3 different
types of DAT cleaning cassettes (Dry abrasive, Dry non-abrasive fabric, and
Wet non-abrasive fabric) can be found at: <A
HREF="http://www.sonicstudios.com/tips.htm">
http://www.sonicstudios.com/tips.htm</A>
Only the dry 'non-abrasive fabric type' cleaning cassette can be safely used
with having no liability of causing possible damage.
Regards in Sound & Music Recording,
Leonard Lombardo
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A better wish... "A bit of knowledge coupled to a great deal of wisdom"
From: Ben Ringo <ringostarr@meckcom.net>
Subject: Burners
Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 19:27:31 -0500
Hello,
I am looking to buy a new CD-R/CD-RW drive. What do you guys think is
the best one? I am looking at the new Plextor 16x10x40 drive. I found
a place to buy one cheaper, and the only thing it doesn't include is a
copy of Plextor Manager 2000, which I normally would think I don't need
since I'm using CDRWin 3.8D anyway, but it said that PM 2000 allows you
to change drive settings. For those of you who have plextor burners, do
I need this program? Is there a different burner that I should
consider? Please reply off-list to: ringostarr@meckcom.net
Thank you,
-Ben Ringo
From: "Venezia, Frank P" <fvenezia@lehman.com>
Subject: Grateful Dead, Reconstructed Capitol Theatre, 11-6&8-70, CD
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 01:39:18 -0500
hey now, everyone! happy spring.
we're treeing the beautifully reconstructed Grateful Dead shows from the
Capitol Theatre, in Port Chester, New York, on November 6th and 8th,
1970...here's a quick summary:
Capitol Theatre, Port Chester, November 6th, 1970.
*Acoustic set through 1:50 of El Paso, entire electric set is AUD
MC>C>D>CD, from Ken Leigh's master, recorded from the front of the balcony
with a Sony TC-110 cassette deck
*Uncle John's Band and NRPS set is AUD MC>C>R>D>CD, from Ken Leigh's master
*From 1:50 of El Paso through 0:03 of Uncle John's Band is AUD MC>R>D>CD,
from Dave Tamarkin's master, recorded from the floor with a Sony Dictaphone
Capitol Theatre, Port Chester, November 8th, 1970.
*Bulk of show is AUD MR>C>D>CD, from Marty Weinberg's master, recorded from
the front of the balcony with a Uher 7" reel-to-reel machine
BIG thanks to Jack Warner for putting this together for everyone's
enjoyment!
each show requires 4 cd's, so it'll be 8x74 for audio cd's. i'm not sure of
the SHN requirements yet, but I'll know soon...sorry, no DATs for this one.
please follow these simple directions to sign-up:
*send your sign-up to me at this addy:
<<mailto:fvenezia@lehman.com?subject=Reconstructed Capitol Theatre 1970
Tree>>
that's email to "fvenezia@lehman.com" with "Reconstructed Capitol Theatre
1970 Tree" as the
subject.
*in the body of the email, please put this information ON A SINGLE LINE and
PLEASE
use COMMAS to separate the info:
name,
email address,
state (two letter abbreviation) or country (if not the US),
CD or SHN,
branch or leaf,
number of kids (for "branches")
*other comments are welcomed, as long as they're not on the info line
*some example sign-ups:
george bush, dubya@thanksdaddy.com, TX, CD, branch, 4
al gore, bore@nowhereland.gov, DC, SHN, branch, 4
ralph nader, rader@peoplepower.org, OR, CD, leaf
*also, if you can, please remove any "hyper-links" from your sign-up, too.
it's
much easier for me to create the tree structure when the sign-ups are
"clean"
*everyone's welcome to sign up, but please sign-up for a branch ONLY if you
are able to make "disk-at-once" copies of cd's
*please note: we won't have two separate trees for shn's and cd audio this
time...I'll put the folks who do shn's at the top of the tree...and some of
them will have cd audio branches...(cd audio branches will have only have
other cd audio branches, though.) so, please only sign-up if you can play
nice with others...
full recording information and track listings for each show is at
http://frankspicks.org. follow the "Reconstructed Capitol Theatre 1970
Tree" link. I'll post the tree structure up there, too.
thanks, everyone!
Frank
(sorry about this double-disclaimer-whammy!)
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From: Bill <cds@bilner.com>
Subject: FA: Core Sony 7-pin-to-XLR cable
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 01:26:07 -0800
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=cds@bilner.com
From: Stephen Pzynski <stejampzy@yahoo.com>
Subject: MMW w/Fishman offer (12-15-00)
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 09:07:55 -0800 (PST)
Thanks to Franklin, I've got a sweet copy of this show
from Cleveland on 2 CD's and I'd like to keep the good
vibes going by spreading it via trade or B&P to the
first few who respond. I'll take a couple from both
lists. The source is: Schoeps CMC641 > Lunatec V2 >
AD2K+ and it fits on 1x74 and 1x80 min discs. This is
only a CD-r offer, no DAT. Sorry for the WOBW for
strictly DAT listeners/archivists. C'mon baby, let the
good times roll.... Steve
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It takes me out a-walkin' when I'd rather stay at home."
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