DAT-heads Digest #822
Contents:
CD-Burner Market Posting? (Bob Stone)
FS: Plextor 8/20,Plextor 32x and Adaptec SCSI Card ("Pat K")
Re: one for woody source (Ron Dalton)
Ratdog BnP DAT offer ***CLOSED**** (Rich Perlman)
Re: Mac burning software? (DHami44862@aol.com)
Re: one for woody source (Seth Breidbart)
FT: Allman Bros. 3-17-01 (SONNY144@aol.com)
ISO: Joe Jackson 3/15/01 (Alan Lipset)
SCI 3day pass help(NOT looking to buy) (schwigiddy)
48k DATs looking like 44.1 DATs ?? (michael peachey)
Re: Equipment Selection and Sound Quality (was: re:1 4 Woody Source) ("Marc Nutter")
portable power for a DMic20 and a PCM-M1 (Brian)
Re: 48k DATs looking like 44.1 DATs ?? (Seth Breidbart)
Security @ the Hollywood Palladium ? (pro audio)
ISO: Browne/Lindley/Zevon Santa Monica 3/15/98 (David Danek)
FS: Schoeps Rig ("TONY AMENTA")
ISO: Trey shows (Delano)
New Schoeps VMS5U question (ZepMan@aol.com)
tom waits at john hammond's GAMH show wednesday night (david)
Cheap (or free) ticket avail- 3/24 Robyn Hitchcock NYC show ("Owen O'Neill")
ISO: Verve &/or Richard Ashcroft solo Dats (JSmoliak@aol.com)
RE: U89 v. TLM-170 (Bryan Austin)
commander cody- taping friendly?? (Cjyellow@aol.com)
ISO:Black Crowes March 16, 2001 SXSW @ STUBB'S - AUSTIN, TX (BlackCrowes@gmx.net)
ISO:Recent Tesla and Jerry Cantrell shows (BlackCrowes@gmx.net)
From: Bob Stone <bstone98@yahoo.com>
Subject: CD-Burner Market Posting?
Reply-To: bstone@coupcorp.com
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 09:18:44 -0800 (PST)
Is there a CD-Burner Market Posting (similar to the
DAT-Heads Market Posting for DAT Machines?
Or any other price/performance rating
compilation/resource that you know of?
What is generally considered to be the best
price/performance brand/model at:
1. Under $300
2. $300 to $400
3. $500 to $600
etc.
What about a discussion of stand alone burners versus
computer burners?
Thanks to all for you references.
b
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From: "Pat K" <Hoobash@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: Plextor 8/20,Plextor 32x and Adaptec SCSI Card
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:26:35 -0500
I got this all up on ebay and it closes in a couple of hours. Its a package
deal
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=hoobash&inc
lude=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25
From: Ron Dalton <RDalton@najarian.com>
Subject: Re: one for woody source
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:31:22 -0500
Hey All - afore we jump to conclusion as to which source is best, I'm going
to have to go out on a limb here and state that I know for a fact that there
was another B&K rig FOB too. :)
No, I have not compared Seth's recording, but if I know the B&K's as I do,
I'm sure Seths source smokes!!
If I recall properly, I heard after the show that Seth had a battery issue
at some point?? Don't really recall the details - Seth?? I think I remem.
sending ya something to fix the gap you had?? Maybe??
I do remem. that as we were setting up our stuff FOB that band security came
over and gave us a hard time about using a mic. stand. We ditched the stand
and taped the 4022's to the rim of my hat and we wore the mics for all 4
sets. By the end of the night I was a zombie. I learned that the reason
for it was b/c they were taping (vid) of that show for release.
When it comes to taping at Roseland, you H-A-V-E to get up front - that
place has the worst sound in the NYC area (T.S.) that I can think of!
I already B&Ped the FOB's to a few people, so the source is indeed out
there......
Happy Hunting!
Ron Dalton
(Ben Marks Stated):
I came out of the split B and Ks , hence the HHB at the end of the lineage.
I'll take the B and K sound over the Gefell tapes any day. I know this to
be
true because when batteries crapped out on the deck in front of me, I was
switched into the Gefell rig at the end of the line. There was no
comparison
in sound. Seth's rig rules the roost!!!
Ben Marks (formerly HHBPro, now BenJD2B as I head off to law school in the
fall).
From: Rich Perlman <montclair@cyburban.com>
Subject: Ratdog BnP DAT offer ***CLOSED****
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:41:45 -0500
SSIA
Thanks for playing..........
Rich
From: DHami44862@aol.com
Subject: Re: Mac burning software?
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:59:04 EST
In a message dated 3/18/01 1:05:32 PM, DAT-heads-Request@datheads.phish.net
writes:
<< Jam
(Adaptec/Roxio's audio-CD-only package) will let you set a default for
new discs, and is more flexible, but you can get by with Toast Deluxe for
simple tasks. >>
I have a brand new version of Jam, never been used, for sale. Software,
registration, users guide ect.. I bought it and never needed it.
E-mail me if interested.
Thanks
David
From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: one for woody source
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:24:59 -0500 (EST)
> If I recall properly, I heard after the show that Seth had a battery issue
> at some point?? Don't really recall the details - Seth?? I think I remem.
> sending ya something to fix the gap you had?? Maybe??
Yes, we lost the last set.
> I do remem. that as we were setting up our stuff FOB that band
> security came over and gave us a hard time about using a mic. stand.
> We ditched the stand and taped the 4022's to the rim of my hat and
> we wore the mics for all 4 sets. By the end of the night I was a
> zombie.
At least they were cool and didn't mind. Try keeping your head still
while moving the rest of your body enough to not look suspicious.
Seth
From: SONNY144@aol.com
Subject: FT: Allman Bros. 3-17-01
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:31:23 EST
Anyone who wants to trade for a copy of the allmans show from the beacon
3-17-01
please e-mail me
thanks
sonny
From: Alan Lipset <alipset@yahoo.com>
Subject: ISO: Joe Jackson 3/15/01
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 11:42:53 -0800 (PST)
Anyone tape Joe Jackson at Tribeca PAC 3/15/01 or
elsewhere recently?
Alan
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From: schwigiddy <schwigiddy@eboom.com>
Subject: SCI 3day pass help(NOT looking to buy)
Reply-To: schwigiddy@eboom.com
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:32:03 -0800 (PST)
hello DATheads.........
i have a delema....i ahve a 3day pass for the SCI shows here in
Austin,Tx.
but, i can't get out there untill latenight Thurs after the
show......but, i will be going to
the 13th & 14th shows, i could have sworn soomeone told me once that i
need to
be there on the 1st night to even use it,.....?
is this true ....?.........i am concered with not being able to use the
3day pass i bought
for just 2nights....you say, why did this guy buy a 3day pass if he was
only going to be
there 2nights...well 2nights is the same as a 3day pass....by a couple
of bucks....
will i be able to show up on the 2nd day & still gain access for the
last 2 nights....?
sorry if this sound trivial but, i didn't know who else to
ask....?...thanx for all you time..
Take Care....
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From: michael peachey <michael@peachey.com>
Subject: 48k DATs looking like 44.1 DATs ??
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:37:47 -0800
I recently taped a show at 44.1, for the sole purpose of burning to CDR as
opposed to archiving. When I play back one of the tapes from the show, it
sounds slow. It's as if a 48k digital signal was fed into the machine, but
the playback is at 44.1. The indicator says 44.1 on playback in 3 different
decks.
Is it possible for a DAT to record a digital signal "at the wrong speed"? I
was using a DA-P1 in a chain of other DA-P1s all hooked into a digital feed.
Other tapes made the same night on the same deck sound ok.
peachey
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From: "Marc Nutter" <nutter@sonicsense.com>
Subject: Re: Equipment Selection and Sound Quality (was: re:1 4 Woody Source)
Reply-To: "Marc Nutter" <nutter@sonicsense.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 14:46:55 -0500
Hi Sean (and All),
It's always nice to see your well-informed posts offering great insight to
the dat-heads community.
>Most people on this list would do better to make sure they
>are in a good sounding point in the venue... and work on
>microphone positioning technique. I have certainly heard
>some truely lousy tapes made with AD1000 and the frills and
>good tapes made with a PCM recorder and the Sony provided
>filters/AD converter
Hey, ouch! I'm probably responsible for some of those lousy sounding
tapes... Having a "dream rig" is only icing on the cake. When you
have a modest system and your tapes are average, you get what you expected,
and as we all know, there are many surprises!
Lots of tapes that are made on less than pristine rigs sound great.
Just like the guy beside me at Panic Red Rocks '96 who made dramatically
better
sounding tapes with his 460's>DA-P1 than I did with
4011's>Lunatec>Apogee>Portadat.
Sometimes it just happens that way. This is just more great support for
the argument that we should be listening to the music and stay open to
savoring what's on those tapes more than what equipment was used to make
them.
Of course, lots can be said for the benefits of a great system, but spending
the most on equipment doesn't guarantee the best results. As many of you
have already read, we are taking the plunge into an experimental system
using the Sony Vaio C1VN, along with a bunch of bells and whistles, for
24-bit field recording. Having closely compared the DAT tapes that we made
at the same time as the 24-bit recordings, the differences are quite
noteworthy--deeper, more spacious imaging, greater detail in low- and
high-end, and better balance of instrumentation. Still, there may be better
tapes out there of the very same show as a result of better placement,
miking technique, and equipment selection. As we know, there are certain
systems that match up in some rooms and with some P.A. systems better than
others.
>(There is/was even someone on this list
>who made some pretty damn good tapes of St. Stephen in '83
>with Sennheiser 441s.... and I think a 14bit Technics processor. )
Good point, and here's another...
Bandwidth Tax: Grateful Dead, Alpine Valley '88
AKG c461's (fob)>Stewart BPS-1's>Sony D-5 (cassette)
Copies: D-5>3700 (levels are a bit low, peaks about -10dbfs)
Available on DAT to the first three requests willing to take a chance. : )
Happy Taping,
Marc
Marc Nutter
Mojan Parker
Sonic Sense
2755 S. Gilpin St.
Denver, CO 80210
Phone (303) 753-0201 or Toll Free (877) 324-4463
http://www.sonicsense.com
From: Brian <blbst25+@pitt.edu>
Subject: portable power for a DMic20 and a PCM-M1
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:44:13 -0500
Hey,
I am going to make a battery for my DMic20 and got to thinking about it and
was wondering; Can I make a battery that will power both my DMic20 and my M1
for at least 5 hours? Or am I going to have to make a seperate battery for
my M1 and my DMic20. Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Mac
From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: 48k DATs looking like 44.1 DATs ??
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 17:06:25 -0500 (EST)
> I recently taped a show at 44.1, for the sole purpose of burning to CDR as
> opposed to archiving.
But see below.
> Is it possible for a DAT to record a digital signal "at the wrong speed"? I
> was using a DA-P1 in a chain of other DA-P1s all hooked into a digital feed.
If you're getting a digital in, it doesn't matter what your deck is
set to, it will copy the input.
That said, it's possible to get a tape at the wrong speed, but it
isn't easy. Using a box I have that allows the setting of subcodes, I
can set the subcode on a 48 kHz tape to 44.1; however, I've never
heard of a way to do that without such a box.
Seth
From: pro audio <sonicbloke@yahoo.com>
Subject: Security @ the Hollywood Palladium ?
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:00:29 -0800 (PST)
Having heard some horror stories concerning the
"in-your-face" Nazi-style security measures claimed
to be enforced at the Hollywood Palladium in L.A.,
was wondering if anyone here can throw more light
on this particular venue's policies, based on actual,
recent experience rather than word-of-mouth rumors? :)
Would appreciate any feedback, notably in the area
of pat downs and especially concerning metal detector
usage (how often employed, what body parts scanned,
and such grisly details...)!
Thanks,
A Concerned Taper
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From: David Danek <hobbes4444@yahoo.com>
Subject: ISO: Browne/Lindley/Zevon Santa Monica 3/15/98
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 16:02:40 -0800 (PST)
Anyone out there have a nice tape of this show to
trade? It was on my to-get list a while ago, and I
had forgotten about it (until I recently picked up one
of the Nicolette Larson/UCLA Children's Hospital
shows). From what I recall, Jackson, David and Warren
played solo and together with loads of guests, and
backed by a great band (including Waddy Wachtel, Wally
Ingram, and Jackson's touring band).
Thanks,
Dave
BWT 3 B&P of Warren Zevon 10/13/76 WMMS Coffee Break
Concert (In-Studio music and interview), Pre-FM, 60
min: DAT or cd (unindexed now, hope to fix that shortly)
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From: "TONY AMENTA" <TAMENTA@accessvt.com>
Subject: FS: Schoeps Rig
Reply-To: "TONY AMENTA" <TAMENTA@accessvt.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 20:11:02 -0800
I have decided to sell my current rig and downsize a bit. I would prefer to
sell everything at once but might be willing to entertain offers to sell
individual items. Everything was purchased by me from US retailers and was
new at the time of purchase except for the KC Active cables which were
purchased used from a US retailer. All components are in perfect operating
condition with only slight paint ware on Active Cables and CMC Bodies. For
more information on the windscreens check out the Lightwave Windscreens at
http://www.lightwavesystems.com/. Lightwave screens are produced for audio
professionals and are often observed on the nightly news, I have yet to pick
up any wind noise using these screens and they appear to be indestructable.
Purchased new everything would cost $5430. I am asking what I believe is a
very fair price of $3300. Please email me privately if you are interested.
1) Schoeps CMC6 Bodies (Pair)
2) Schoeps MK 41 Capsules (Matched Pair)
3) Schoeps MK 4 Capsules (Matched Pair)
4) Schoeps KC Active Cables 6.5' long (Pair)
5) Schoeps A20S Shock mount (Single)
6) Lightwave MiniScreen (Pair)
7) Lightwave WindMaster (Furry Covers) (Pair)
From: Delano <bluesky@mindspring.com>
Subject: ISO: Trey shows
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:15:03 -0500
Anyone have any Trey shows to trade? I have 5000+ digital hours to trade.
Take Care,
Delano
http://www.mindspring.com/~bluesky/index.htm
From: ZepMan@aol.com
Subject: New Schoeps VMS5U question
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:33:31 EST
Hey everyone,
Just wondering if anyone has made a battery pack or has the facillities to
make one with the 5 pin circular connector that would fit snugly with the
VMS5U.
thanks
BTW: 3/16/01 The Slip On stage 3' MK4 (ORTF)->KC-Y->VMS5U->DAP-1
I'll take 3
Marc: )
From: david <slowtrain@mediaone.net>
Subject: tom waits at john hammond's GAMH show wednesday night
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 21:42:46 -0500
would there be a bay area head to catch the wednesday night John Hammond
Great American Music Hall?
his new record is all tom waits songs--waits produced and plays on it, and
it's quite excellent, mind you. with waits band members Larry "The Mole"
Taylor and Stephen Hodges playing in Hammond's band, as well as Augie
Meyers, the keyboardist from the Sir Douglas Quintet, the show is sure to
be hot.
AND RELIABLE SOURCES have it that waits will make an appearance. should be
amazing. seriously, waits' road manager made the suggestion that tom would
join the show.
i can't be there with my rig, so would someone else grab it and share it
for me?
tx
dwb
From: "Owen O'Neill" <oweno@home.com>
Subject: Cheap (or free) ticket avail- 3/24 Robyn Hitchcock NYC show
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 22:55:32 -0800
I have an unavoidable conflict and must be in Philly on March 24. I have one
ticket for the Robyn Hitchock - Soft Boys show at Irving Plaza in NYC. Paid
$20 at box office and will sell it for $10 or give it free to a taper
willing to burn me a CDR copy of the show (or a DAT clone). Will deliver
anywhere in midtown Manhattan weekdays this week.
Regards,
Owen O'Neill
From: JSmoliak@aol.com
Subject: ISO: Verve &/or Richard Ashcroft solo Dats
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 23:38:16 EST
Hey All,
I'm looking for some great sounding Verve (esp. their last tour, Urban Hymns)
and/or solo Richard Ashcroft shows. I think San Francisco was like the only
city that didn't get an Ashcroft solo show, since he outright canceled his
February 5 show after having previously rescheduled it.
thanks,
Jason
JSmoliak@aol.com
From: Bryan Austin <baustin@clemson.edu>
Subject: RE: U89 v. TLM-170
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:15:06 -0500
Just a follow up to Johnny's post.
The U89i has 2 bass roll-off positions: 80Hz and 160Hz. My pair came for
just under $6K and included an aluminum flight case, 2 15ft. Neutrik
cables, wind screens, and tiltable elastic shock mounts (possibly same as
the TLM170's?). Both mics sound superb.
Bryan
From: Cjyellow@aol.com
Subject: commander cody- taping friendly??
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 02:14:21 EST
he is coming to chicago, and i would like to run my rig, but have dsm's if
needed.... does anyone know if he has a taping policy???
thanks!
steve
cjyellow@aol.com
From: BlackCrowes@gmx.net
Subject: ISO:Black Crowes March 16, 2001 SXSW @ STUBB'S - AUSTIN, TX
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:22:35 +0100 (MET)
Howdy,
looking for the above show...will record the London show next month (april
9th)
Best,
Karsten
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From: BlackCrowes@gmx.net
Subject: ISO:Recent Tesla and Jerry Cantrell shows
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 15:26:57 +0100 (MET)
Hi all,
I'm in search of any of the recent Tesla and Jerry Cantell US shows.
Have or will get several Tesla shows and one or two Jerry Cantrell shows
anytime soon, looking for trades for any other show..
Best,
Karsten
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