DAT-heads Digest #829
Contents:
Zerifo Inbox Question (TheWarehouse41@aol.com)
U2 TAPES ("Todd & Jen Guite'")
ISO: Nick Cave & Dirty Three ("Hans")
FT: Jacob Fred Jazz Odyssey 1-18-01 1st Set ("Hood Rat")
ISO: Jeff Tweedy 2001 (Brett Lowman)
DATs up for grabs.... ("Robbie Dunn")
Re: DAT-heads Digest #828 (DHami44862@aol.com)
AEROSMITH 03-24-01 Munich secret club gig-Additional info (BlackCrowes@gmx.net)
ISO: ABB Beacon Theater 3/23 ("Ziegler, Richard S")
Sony TCD-D8 display chip ("Scott Wise")
Leftover Salmon - 3-24-01, St. Louis B&P ("Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.")
ISO U2 Live Recordings from Elevation Tour (Matthew Giller)
Taping Geekery at its finest (ZAndersson@aol.com)
Qs about Nick Cave current tour (GaoBest@aol.com)
ISO: Yngwie 2001 Tour ("Tatina, Bill")
RE: DAT to computer (Warren Melnick)
ISO: Dream Theater 6/9/95 Birch Hill, NJ ("Tatina, Bill")
Plextor CD burners? ("Joshua")
RE: DAT to computer (Adam Pease)
newsgroups specifically for audio editing? ("Joshua")
RE: DAT to computer (Warren Melnick)
Re: DAT to computer (Len Moskowitz)
From: TheWarehouse41@aol.com
Subject: Zerifo Inbox Question
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:19:50 EST
Quick taping question..
what will I need to connect a Zefiro Inbox to a Sony D8 (please be as
specific as possible)?
-Cameron
From: "Todd & Jen Guite'" <guite917@suscom-maine.net>
Subject: U2 TAPES
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:40:02 -0500
Anybodt getting any of the current tour?I am also looking for any of the
FM stuff done a few months ago!Have over 3000 hours of dat of various
bands to trade!Thanks for the bandwidth! Todd
From: "Hans" <sky83539@skynet.be>
Subject: ISO: Nick Cave & Dirty Three
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:49:25 +0200
Nick Cave is currently doing some solo shows in the US. He is
accompanied by 2/3 of Dirty Three. Would love to hear recordings of
those shows. Anyone with good taste and some fine quality Nick Cave &
Dirty Three or other Australian stuff (Cruel Sea, Dave Graney, Kim
Salmon, Tren Brothers, etc..) please contact me. Many master DAT
recordings for trade. I have world's largest Nick Cave collection.
Can clone to CD-R too.
Hans (Belgium-Europe)
From: "Hood Rat" <el_baracho@hotmail.com>
Subject: FT: Jacob Fred Jazz Odyssey 1-18-01 1st Set
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 00:24:49 -0800
Fellow Heads- I have an extra copy (DAT) of JFJO's 1st set from the Jambase
party @ Hotel Utah in San Francisco. Send me a list and I'd be down the swap
tapes. Cheers- Mike
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From: Brett Lowman <brett.lowman@snet.net>
Subject: ISO: Jeff Tweedy 2001
Reply-To: brett.lowman@snet.net
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 06:31:28 -0500
Hello,
I am looking for any high quality Jeff Tweedy shows from his 2001 winter
tour. I have a master from 2.27.01 at Lilli's in Somerville, MA
(SCBinaul=>PC-M1=>CDR) for trade as well as tons of other tweedy and
Wilco shows. My entire list can be found thru the link below. Thanks.
--
brett
http://www.geocities.com/brettlowman
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breath"-REM
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which they avoid" -Soren Kierkegard
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some more relevance than spotlight and applause" -Billy Bragg
From: "Robbie Dunn" <goheels@mindspring.com>
Subject: DATs up for grabs....
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:53:01 -0500
Well it's finally happened..... I've ran out of space. To help free up some
of that space, I'm unloading some DATs that I have transferred to CD (guess
I don't need duplicates of all these shows).
This is a perfect opportunity for a DAT "newbie" to get your hands on a
bunch of sweet sounding recordings, with very little effort. I'll take one
sealed Sony DAT for each tape listed below and preference will be given to
someone who will take them all. You pay shipping to me & I'll cover shipping
back to you......
Here's what I have....
String Cheese Incident (all sweet soundboards)
11-18-00 Atlanta 2x60
11-17-00 Atlanta 2x60
11-15-00 Birmingham 2x60
11-12-00 Columbia, SC 2x60
7-21-00 Greek Theatre 1x90
7-19-00 Mt Shasta 2x60
7-18-00 Mt Shasta 2x60
3-18-00 Fillmore SF 2x60
3-17-00 Fillmore SF 2x60
3-10-00 Eugene, Or 2x60
3-9-00 Eugene, OR 2x60
12-31-99 Portland 60+90
Steve Kimock Band 12-22-00 Palookaville - Santa Cruz 1x90 (on stage AKG C61)
Zero 11-10-00 Maritime - San Francisco 2x60
Widespread Panic 12-30-00 Atlanta 60+90 (FOB Schoeps tubes)
Widespread Panic 12-31-00 Atlanta 2x60 (FOB Schoeps tubes)
Based on my counts, that works out to 26 (60 meter) & 4 (90 meter). You can
order blanks from one of the taper friendly shops (Masterpiece, AM-Dig, Oade
Bros, or Terrapin) and have them sent directly to me. I'll ship the tapes
out to you as soon as I'm notified that the blanks are in transit to me.
Robbie
PS I've already put track id's on most of these tapes, so it'll be easy to
do cd transfers if that's your thing.
From: DHami44862@aol.com
Subject: Re: DAT-heads Digest #828
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:32:42 EST
In a message dated 3/26/01 12:07:07 AM, DAT-heads-Request@datheads.phish.net
writes:
<< That way, I can get my DATs into my
computer that I have recorded using the Sony Long Play mode with no
trouble. No other card that I have tried will do this. If you have LP
mode tapes, check this card out. >>
If your using a DAT Machine with long play... CUT IT OUT!!
What is the point in raping a WONDERFUL recording format, you've got all
those quantization bits there for use, WHY NOT USE THEM?!? Come on people,
you've already shelled out at least $5-6 for per tape already, keep the
quality above cassette's and sample HIGH!!!!!!
Sorry for the rant,
D
From: BlackCrowes@gmx.net
Subject: AEROSMITH 03-24-01 Munich secret club gig-Additional info
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 15:43:31 +0200 (MEST)
Hi again,
sorry I forgot to supply some important information in my previous posting.
Since most of you asked for it, here is it for all fellow DATheads
AEROSMITH@Babylon Munich/Germany 03-24-01
Setlist:
1. Mama Kin
2. Same Old Song And Dance
3. Big Ten Inch Record
4. Chip Away The Stone
5. One Way Street
6. I Don`t Wanna Miss A Thing
7. Rattlesnake Shake
8. Walk This Way
9. Sweet Emotion
10. Jaded
11. Train Kept A Rollin’
========================
12. Come Together
13. Toys In The Attic
Total 72min.
Set-up: OKM II pro > Sony SBM-1 > Sony PCM M1 10" from left speaker stack
Personal Rating :A/A+
Transferred digitally by DATport to CDR, so please specify if you want DAT
or CDR
Hope this helped...
Best from rainy Munich,Germany
Karsten
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From: "Ziegler, Richard S" <zieglrs@fammllc.com>
Subject: ISO: ABB Beacon Theater 3/23
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:50:32 -0600
If anyone can help me with a copy of the Allman Bros. 3/23 show at the
Beacon, please e-mail me privately. Thank you for your help with this.
Regards,
Dick Ziegler
FAMM Lubes Group
Texnet: 333-7659
phone: 914-253-7659
Texnet Fax: 333-4190
fax: 914-253-4190
e-mail: zieglrs@fammllc.com
From: "Scott Wise" <slwise@netserv.net.au>
Subject: Sony TCD-D8 display chip
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:26:56 +0800
I'm looking for a chip which is used on the display driver board of a
TCD-D8. It is a UPD 75312 Sony part # 875936545. Does anyone know who
would sell one of these? Here in Australia, they will only sell the whole
board - costs $$$$$$.
Scott
From: "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." <wayne@hoxnet.com>
Subject: Leftover Salmon - 3-24-01, St. Louis B&P
Reply-To: <wayne@hoxnet.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 08:58:50 -0600 (CST)
I got a nice soundboard patch of the 3-24 Leftover Salmon show at
The Pageant in St. Louis this weekend. It was the first Salmon
show I've seen with the new lineup and it met and exceeded my
expectations. This was also my first exposure to the new club in
St. Louis, The Pageant, and I was dissapointed. The acoustics are
horrible--especially for a club supposedly designed for live bands.
Luckily the board feed was nice.
I'm currently only doing DAT B&P's and I'll take 4 or 5 for now
(1 90M, or 2 60M's).
--
Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.
SIUE School of Engineering, Dept. of Computer Science
wayne@hoxnet.com
http://www.hoxnet.com
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From: Matthew Giller <mtgiller@yahoo.com>
Subject: ISO U2 Live Recordings from Elevation Tour
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 07:04:37 -0800 (PST)
I am looking for live recordings by U2 from their
current Elevation Tour. If you have recorded the
first show or plan to record future shows, please
contact me. I will be recording four shows. IE have
plenty of DATs to trade from past tours
(http://www.geocities.com/mtgiller/U2RecordingsPage.html).
I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks for the
space.
Matt Giller
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From: ZAndersson@aol.com
Subject: Taping Geekery at its finest
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:05:18 EST
As I was forced to watch the Academy Awards last night with my SO, I got to wondering about the pairs of mics they were using on-stage. They looked like Schoeps CCM's of some sort. Am I right? Anyone out there know for sure?
Shows you how taper geeky DAT-Heads has made me :-)
Peace,
Zach Andersson
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From: GaoBest@aol.com
Subject: Qs about Nick Cave current tour
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:37:39 EST
hey everyone
we're going to the Nick Cave performance at Palace of Fine Arts on Tuesday,
and before I went, I wondered how long his current shows are, approximately,
and if the sound is as "loud" as it is when he has his Bad Seeds performing
with him. In other words, should I set my attenuator to 0 or -20 (using my
PCM-M1) for this show?
I taped Burt B at the same venue last year, and the sound was quite soft, so
I wasn't sure if there was a pattern or not for loudness or not...
Thanks in advance
Mike
gaobest@aol.com
From: "Tatina, Bill" <Bill.Tatina@nordstrom.com>
Subject: ISO: Yngwie 2001 Tour
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:42:14 -0700
"Yngwie Malmsteen" IS touring in U.S.
I'm looking for Yngwie's Headliner shows in 2001Only!
Can anybody get the following shows?
"Yngwie J.Malmsteen's Rising Force"
* USA TOUR DATES 2001
March:
Sun/Mar-11 Dallas, TX Canyon Club
Mon/Mar-12 Houston, TX Numbers
Tue/Mar-13 San Antonio, TX Sunset Station
Wed/Mar-14 Austin, TX Back Room - SXSW
Thu/Mar-15 off
Fri/Mar-16 Birmingham, AL Five Points Music Hall
Sat/Mar-17 Nashville, TN 328 Performance Hall
Sun/Mar-18 Atlanta, GA Masquerade
Mon/Mar-19 Tampa, FL Frankie's Patio
Tue/Mar-20 Boynton Beach, FL Orbit
Wed/Mar-21 Jacksonville, FL Lillian's
Thu/Mar-22 off
Fri/Mar-23 Charlotte, NC Tremont Music Hall
Sat/Mar-24 off
Sun/Mar-25 Virginia Beach, VA Norva Theatre
Mon/Mar-26 Winston Salem, NC Ziggy's
Tue/Mar-27 Myrtle Beach, SC House of Blues
Wed/Mar-28 Springfield, VA Jaxx
Thu/Mar-29 Wantagh, NY Mulcahy's
Fri/Mar-30 Old Bridge, NJ Birch Hill
Sat/Mar-31 Albany, NY Saratoga Winners
Sun/Apr-01 Hartford, CT Webster Theatre
Mon/Apr-02 off
Tue/Apr-03 off
Wed/Apr-04 Pittsburgh, PA Beehive
Thu/Apr-05 Buffalo, NY Sideshow Music Hall
Fri/Apr-06 Toronto, ONT The Docks
Sat/Apr-07 Detroit, MI Harpo's
Sun/Apr-08 Cleveland, OH The Odeon
Mon/Apr-09 off
Tue/Apr-10 Columbus, OH Newport Music Hall
Wed/Apr-11 Chicago, IL House of Blues
Thu/Apr-12 Milwaukee, WI Rave
Fri/Apr-13 Minneapolis, MN Fine Line
Sat/Apr-14 Omaha, NE Ranch Bowl
Sun/Apr-15 Easter
Mon/Apr-16 off
Tue/Apr-17 St. Louis, MO The Pageant
Wed/Apr-18 Kansas City, KS The Beaumont
Thu/Apr-19 off
Fri/Apr-20 Denver, CO Ogden Theatre
Sat/Apr-21 Colorado Springs, CO Colorado Music Hall
Sun/Apr-22 off
Mon/Apr-23 Tuscon, AZ Metro
Tue/Apr-24 San Diego, CA Cane's
Wed/Apr-25 Ventura, CA Ventura Theatre
Thu/Apr-26 Los Angeles, CA House of Blues
Fri/Apr-27 Las Vegas, NV House of Blues
Sat/Apr-28 Anaheim, CA House of Blues
From: Warren Melnick <warren.melnick@astata.com>
Subject: RE: DAT to computer
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 11:47:39 -0500
Here we go again :)
Forget about digital in on the Soundblaster. It resamples everything, even
if it does not need to be resampled.
Go buy a nice cheap Zoltrix Nightgale with the daughterboard and use that
for digital sampling.
================
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Director of Research and Development
Astata Corporation
=====Original Message=====
From: Adam Pease [mailto:apease@ks.teknowledge.com]
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2001 3:15 PM
To: dat-heads@datheads.phish.net
Subject: DAT to computer
Folks,
I noticed messages from Bennett Forrest and Matt relevant to a general
issue I have. I make live recordings on my Sony DAT walkman and would like
to edit them on my computer and transfer them to CD. Currently, I use the
analog out into a "SoundBlaster Live!" card analog in. I edit in
SoundForge and then write out to CD. Naturally, I'd like to bypass the D/A
and subsequent A/D conversion. The Sony DAT has SPDIF 7 pin output. The
SoundBlaster has:
a. "2-pin Molex" connector which takes CD_SPDIF input
b. "Zoomed Video FS digital input via 4-pin Molex"
c. Digital-DIN
d. "SPDIF digital input via RCA jack, SPDIF consumer-interface compliant"
I also have a laptop with an optical SPDIF connector and access at work to
DAT drives hooked up to Linux and Windows machines. I can see a number of
options, none of which I know how to try :-(
1. Cable from Sony 7-pin connector to a connector on my SoundBlaster or
laptop (5 choices here!). Find some software that knows how to grab the
digital input stream from the right port and dump it to a .wav file.
2. Find some digital tape drive software that knows how to read the format
the DAT Walkman writes and read from the tape directly into a PC.
Can anyone point me in the right direction? Is anyone on this list taking
digital output from a DAT into a PC for editing? I'll be happy to create a
FAQ for this if I get a wide enough range of responses.
Adam
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From: "Tatina, Bill" <Bill.Tatina@nordstrom.com>
Subject: ISO: Dream Theater 6/9/95 Birch Hill, NJ
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:52:16 -0700
This is a replacement for my DAT copy which has major digi.
Please help> :) Billy T
From: "Joshua" <sprung598@yahoo.com>
Subject: Plextor CD burners?
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:01:48 -0800
Howdy Y'all....
Not surprisingly, my (stinky) Yamaha has finally bitten the dust, so I'm in
the market for a new burner. I've always heard the Plextors are tanks, so
it was pretty much a foregone conclusion that I'd go with one of them...any
thoughts on specific models or IDE versus SCSI? I've got a SCSI2 card that
I wouldn't mind putting to use if there's any real benefit from it. Looks
like I can get an IDE 12x for about $180...
FWIW, I've had lousy luck with Yamaha 42xx CD burners...Other people swear
by 'em, this one was replaced by Yamaha after my first one kicked, then died
after about a year and a half of really moderate use (along with two others
from work, as well as one from a previous job - all 4260's).
thanks!
-Josh
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From: Adam Pease <apease@ks.teknowledge.com>
Subject: RE: DAT to computer
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 09:17:15 -0800
Warren,
Thanks for your response. I found a web page for the Nightingale at
http://pipedreamer.bizland.com/zoltrix/ and the users manual at
http://www.zoltrix.com/Public/Sound/MANUAL/Nightingale.pdf and have a few
follow-up questions. It's not clear to me what cabling is needed to get
from the Sony DAT to the Nightingale or even what type of cable connects to
the Nightingale's SPDIF connectors. Could you provide more detail?
Also, does the "Audio Rack" software make the Nightingale appear to
Windows like any other sound input device? Or does it let you create .wav
files from Nightingale input?
Adam
At 11:47 AM 3/26/2001 -0500, Warren Melnick wrote:
>Here we go again :)
>
>Forget about digital in on the Soundblaster. It resamples everything, even
>if it does not need to be resampled.
>
>Go buy a nice cheap Zoltrix Nightgale with the daughterboard and use that
>for digital sampling.
>
>----------------
>Warren Melnick
>Director of Research and Development
>Astata Corporation
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From: "Joshua" <sprung598@yahoo.com>
Subject: newsgroups specifically for audio editing?
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 10:24:58 -0800
I was also wondering if there are discussion groups specifically on PC based
audio editing, or if there may be enough interest to warrant starting one.
I tried boosting the levels of a recording a bit last week using
Soundforge - the end results were lost peaks, boosted bass and a wonderful
smearing effect overall. Needless to say, I'm looking for an
alternative....
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From: Warren Melnick <warren.melnick@astata.com>
Subject: RE: DAT to computer
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:46:08 -0500
If you have the optical cable for the Sony and you buy the optical
daughterboard for the Zoltrix you need nothing more. If you only have a
coax cable for the Sony, you will have to add a coax connector to the
optical daughterboard which requires 1 resistor, 1 capacitor, 1 RCA jack and
perhaps a slight bit of soldering and drilling. Fairly simple process
though.
As for recording, it appears just like any other sound card. You just
happen to be getting a bit-for-bit copy of your DAT on the S/PDIF input.
If you need the Sony cable, there are several on this list who would be
happy to provide you with one. I do not want to play favorites, so just ask
and they will get back to you quickly.
================
Warren Melnick
Director of Research and Development
Astata Corporation
=====Original Message=====
From: Adam Pease [mailto:apease@ks.teknowledge.com]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:17 PM
To: Warren Melnick; 'dat-heads@datheads.phish.net'
Subject: RE: DAT to computer
Warren,
Thanks for your response. I found a web page for the Nightingale at
http://pipedreamer.bizland.com/zoltrix/ and the users manual at
http://www.zoltrix.com/Public/Sound/MANUAL/Nightingale.pdf and have a few
follow-up questions. It's not clear to me what cabling is needed to get
from the Sony DAT to the Nightingale or even what type of cable connects to
the Nightingale's SPDIF connectors. Could you provide more detail?
Also, does the "Audio Rack" software make the Nightingale appear to
Windows like any other sound input device? Or does it let you create .wav
files from Nightingale input?
Adam
At 11:47 AM 3/26/2001 -0500, Warren Melnick wrote:
>Here we go again :)
>
>Forget about digital in on the Soundblaster. It resamples everything, even
>if it does not need to be resampled.
>
>Go buy a nice cheap Zoltrix Nightgale with the daughterboard and use that
>for digital sampling.
>
>----------------
>Warren Melnick
>Director of Research and Development
>Astata Corporation
=================
Adam Pease
Teknowledge
(650) 424-0500 x571
From: Len Moskowitz <moskowit@panix.com>
Subject: Re: DAT to computer
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 12:44:12 -0500 (EST)
Adam Pease <apease@ks.teknowledge.com> wrote:
> ...I make live recordings on my Sony DAT walkman and would like
> to edit them on my computer and transfer them to CD. ...
> ...
> 1. Cable from Sony 7-pin connector to a connector on my SoundBlaster or
> laptop (5 choices here!). Find some software that knows how to grab the
> digital input stream from the right port and dump it to a .wav file.
Many folks use Cooledit Pro, Sound Forge, SAW and other programs, but
Windows' own qsimple Sound Recorder will do the job if you don't have
anything more elaborate.
Our 7-Pin-to-Coax cable will do the job of transferring digital audio
from your DAT to the SBLive card. Please see our Web page for details.
I hope that this helped.
Len Moskowitz Binaural and StealthMics (tm), Cables, Interfaces
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com
moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
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