DAT-heads Digest #838
Contents:
guided by voices fillmore tapers? (GaoBest@aol.com)
RE: LP mode ("Bob Griesel")
digital editing (mike lyons)
Fwd: Collective Soul (Outman77@aol.com)
RE:Tape U2 from the Heart for the best sound! ("Bob Silver")
Newbie a/d question ("Dave Morrison")
jason crosby b&p (Scott C. Brown)
Taping U2 (APlay1@aol.com)
D-7 / M-1 (DHami44862@aol.com)
Holmes Brothers tour dates (O Nelson)
Ratdog Sets (Alan Saferstein)
ISO: U2 ticket for bradley center 5/9/01 (Donald Becker Jr)
From: GaoBest@aol.com
Subject: guided by voices fillmore tapers?
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:25:05 EST
hey guys
is anyone here going to tape guided by voices at the fillmore on Monday April
2? I really do'nt feel like taping them this time, we've taped them the past
few years at gigs, and this time I feel like having a break. As long as I
know there will be other tapers there, I will feel better if I decide to not
tape. I also have come to realize that I've almost never listened to my own
recordings (or to other people's recordings) of Guided by Voices concerts,
unless I'm making copies for other people. I just like going to the shows
and being with the rabid manic GbV fanatics who live and breathe Guided by
Voices on a minute-by-minute regiment. So I am very torn right now. Any
reassurance would be greatly appreciated, email to me (gaobest@aol.com) or
the list.
Thanks a million!
Mike
bwt: B/P dat copy from analog M1 tapes of D5-recorded concerts by Thompson
Twins (1983 or 1984), Frankie Goes to Hollywood (1985?), and/or Pretenders
(5-1-84 RCMH). Or of Mr Tillitson's 1984 D5-recorded show of Til Tuesday
(before they hit it big with "Voices Carry"). Admittedly I've not played any
of these tapes since 1995 or so... so by offering this B/P I will have an
opportunity to listen to any of these tapes.
From: "Bob Griesel" <sundance@olywa.net>
Subject: RE: LP mode
Reply-To: <sundance@olywa.net>
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:43:26 -0800
> The only time I use LP
> mode is to record the High Sierra Music Festival from
> the FM broadcast. The frequency response of my tuner
> stops at 15 khz and my D8 stops at 14.5 khz, . . . .
The same can be said for audience recordings when the
mics are far enough from the stage that only PA sound
reaches them.
The rule of thumb is that higher frequencies roll off at about
6db for each doubling of distance. So, even if there were
audible 20Khz sound 15 ft from the speakers, (not impossible,
but not a given either) it will be -12db at 60 ft and -18 db at
120 ft compared to the mid-range sound. A good PA might
have pre-emphasis applied to the HF speakers to compensate,
but the fact remains that capturing anything between 15 Khz
and 24 Khz from the audience is problematic at best - except
when taping very close to the stage. This is one of the reasons
why it is hard to hear the difference between LP and 44/48 on
tapes made from deep in the audience.
This isn't to suggest that tapes should be made in LP mode
except when the circumstances demand it, though. There are
other factors besides HF response.
Bob
From: mike lyons <mikethedj@yahoo.com>
Subject: digital editing
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:52:28 -0800 (PST)
I just taped a show with the resulting recording
having a persistent, continuous buzz. It wasn't coming
out of the PA but that's neither here nor there. I was
wondering if anyone in DATHeads land knows if there
are any good, accurate (ie as lossless as possible)
digital editing software packages available for a PC
that I might use to mute or remove whatever frequency
range this buzz is associated with. Obviously it would
be preferable to be able to customize the eq frequency
bands to be narrow enough to mute the noise while
leaving as much useful data - music - as possible. Any
thoughts or is this just a fantasy of mine?
thanks in advance,
Mike
BW tax : 3 b&p's for cd clones of the Allmans @
Beacon, NYC, NY 3/22/01 - Senn. MD 441's > Beyer pre
>DAT > CDr > CDr(using EAC)
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From: Outman77@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: Collective Soul
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:59:17 EST
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Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:49:08 EST
Subject: Collective Soul
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If anyone is taping Collective Soul on the new tour, please let me know. I
would like some shows.
Thanks,
Ben.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>If anyone is taping Collective Soul on the new tour, please let me know. I
<BR>would like some shows.
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From: "Bob Silver" <bocabob@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE:Tape U2 from the Heart for the best sound!
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:21:34 -0500
George your Right! Miami was a bitch with patdowns..so be prepared to
crouch what ever you plan t bring in...as for were to tape! I ran my
CSB's>M1 from the Floor directly in the middle of the "Heart" Since people
are running from one side of the Heart to the other chasing Bono down as he
runs around the ramp..most of the time I had no one near me :) And the
sound is perfect their... due to the speaker monitors that are place high up
in the light rigs and are facing straight down into the heart! I believe my
tape sounds great for just having the CSB's!
But to get into the Heart...you need to get to the venue early as they only
let the first 300 people in there!
I am willing to trade my copy from the Heart 3/26/01...and a copy from the
first night 3/24/01(B&K's4021>EAAPSP3>SBM1)taped directly center just
outside the Heart, in trade for any of the other shows from this tour!
Please nice sounding copies only!
Enjoy this tour...it is going to be good!
Peace,
Boca Bob Silver
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>>>
>>>From: george wang <gewwang@yahoo.com>
>>>Subject: re: U2 info for tapers
>>>Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:12:07 -0800 (PST)
>>>
>>>I agree with Delano that it was "taper-friendly" at
>>>the door at the Charlotte U2 show. However, this was
>>>not the case at the U2 shows in Miami from the tapers
>>>I talked to before going to Charlotte. As always, it's
>>>determined venue to venue and not by the band/band
>>>security "force".
>>>
>>>The only info I have to add is that the sound is best
>>>in the seats directly to the sides of the stage. A
>>>friend who was inside the "heart" told me that the
>>>sound was better in the lower level (and even upper
>>>level) on the side of the stage.
>>>
>>>
>>>From: "brayburn" <brayburn@ziplip.com>
>>>Subject: Taping U2 info: Denver 4/6
>>>Reply-To: "brayburn" <brayburn@ziplip.com>
>>>Date: 31 Mar 2001 19:42:38 -0000
>>>
>>>I'll be taping U2 next Friday at the Pepsi Center here in
>>>Denver, CO. I have floor seats (G.A. tix).
>>>
>>>How long is the set going?
>>>Is taping allowed, or not? Just wanted to know what profile I
>>>should assume...
>>>
>>>FOB: MBHO 603A/KA200N's>MP-2>SBM-1>D100
>>>
>>>I'm always looking for others to trade crispy FOB masters with. LMK.
>>>
From: "Dave Morrison" <davemor@gte.net>
Subject: Newbie a/d question
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:58:13 -0500
I'm still assembling my gear and I keep seeing references to the Apogee
AD1000 a/d convertor. However, it appears that this is no longer made,
correct? What was it that made this so universally used? How long ago did it
go out of production? How much did it cost originally? Do they ever come up
for sale used and how much is a reasonable price? If they are impossible to
find, what is the current "best" a/d unit available for battery-powered,
2-channel use? Thanks and sorry for all the questions.
Dave
http://www.morrisonphotographics.com
From: Scott.C.Brown@Dartmouth.EDU (Scott C. Brown)
Subject: jason crosby b&p
Reply-To: Scott.C.Brown@Dartmouth.EDU (scb)
Date: 31 Mar 2001 20:11:34 EST
closed, i hope eople will spread it when they get copies
scott
From: APlay1@aol.com
Subject: Taping U2
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 20:42:44 EST
For taping the show, it is best to be a section in front of the stage. There
are no speakers hung directly on the sides of the stage and it sounded a bit
muffled. There are speakers facing behind the stage and that had a very good
sound.
Andy
From: DHami44862@aol.com
Subject: D-7 / M-1
Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 01:14:15 EST
Well, it's finally happened, inevitable really. The o'll D-7 has bit the
dust, for now anyway, and it looks like a new micro machine is needed. I'm
looking at the M-1. Any comments Pro or Con.??? or perhaps information on
where to fine Lit. other then Sony propaganda? I would also welcome any hot
tips on a great dat repairman. Post to the list or me directly. Thanks
again guy's
David
From: O Nelson <onelson@enteract.com>
Subject: Holmes Brothers tour dates
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 10:28:15 -0500
I saw these guys last night. I've heard they're taper-friendly,
though I wasn't able to confirm that. It's a very cool mixture
of blues, gospel, soul, folk. Mostly blues and gospel. Funky and
fine. Check them out. If you tape, lets trade.
Olaf
Apr. 01, 2001 Beachland Ballroom, Cleveland, OH
Apr. 02, 2001 Woodsongs Radio Show, Lexington, KY
Apr. 04, 2001 CSPS, Cedar Rapids, IA
Apr. 06, 2001 Cedar Cultural Center, Minneapolis, MN
Apr. 07, 2001 High Dive, Champaign, IL
Apr. 08, 2001 Little Brothers, Columbus, OH
Apr. 10, 2001 The Ark, Ann Arbor, MI
Apr. 12, 2001 Horseshoe Tavern, Toronto, CANADA
Apr. 13, 2001 Rosebud, Pittsburgh, PA
Apr. 14, 2001 Canal Street Tavern, Dayton, OH
Apr. 21, 2001 Night in Old Savannah, Savannah, GA
Apr. 27, 2001 The Music Hall, Tarrytown, NY
May. 02, 2001 Café Campus, Montreal, CANADA
May. 05, 2001 Summer on Trade Street, Winston-Salem, NC
May. 25, 2001 Miller Plaza, Chattanooga, TN
Jun. 10, 2001 Chicago Blues Fest, Chicago, IL
Jun. 16, 2001 Private Function, Middleburg, VA
Jul. 08, 2001 Mississippi Valley Blues Fest, Davenport, IA
Jul. 14, 2001 Kalamazoo Blues Festival, Kalamazoo, MI
Jul. 22, 2001 Kansas City Jazz and Blues fest, Kansas City, MO
Jul. 27, 2001 Lowell Folk Festival, Lowell, ME
Aug. 02, 2001 Flynn Theater, Burlington, VT
Aug. 04, 2001 L.L. Bean Discovery Park, Freeport, ME
Aug. 11, 2001 Edmonton Folk Festival, Edmonton, CANADA
Aug. 12, 2001 Edmonton Folk Festival, Edmonton, CANADA
Sep. 23, 2001 Boston Folk Festival, Boston, MA
From: Alan Saferstein <gruvenon@netzero.net>
Subject: Ratdog Sets
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 13:43:47 -0400
I am going to be taping Ratdog in Atlanta tonight. Can someone tell me
how many sets they are playing at a show on this tour. Also, can/is
someone going to tape the broadcast on Z93?
Thanks,
Alan
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From: Donald Becker Jr <donald.becker@marquette.edu>
Subject: ISO: U2 ticket for bradley center 5/9/01
Reply-To: donald.becker@bigfoot.com
Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 16:35:46 -0500
subject says it all...
if anyone's got an extra please drop me a line.
planning on taping the show, so cd/dat clones can be arranged as well.
-don
bwt: U2 3/29/01, km140s > sx-m2 > d100, 2 discs (cd only!)
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