DAT-heads Digest #864
Contents:
Oktava MK319 ("Bonnie & Cleve Svetlik")
ISO: tech help on PCM decoding (Aaron Westendorf)
U2 DAT Masters: Portland and San Jose (4/19 & 4/20) (Matthew Giller)
ISO: Phil Atlanta/Asheville HAVE: Charlotte (Delano)
Anyone Taping Van Morrison @ New Orleans Jazz Fest Next Weekend ? (KPS61@aol.com)
for sale: david gray tix thurs (Scott C. Brown)
FT: J Mascis on CD-R (Dave)
Ben Harper w/ E.Vedder streaming audio via triplej ("crak therapy")
Extra DATS for trade (Michael Walter Connors)
Extra JGB 11-26-83 DAT Early and Late Binghampton... (dimar)
Grovelling in Sonoma for U2 (Toby Germano)
FS: Sonic Studios DSM-6S/L and PA-6LC3B Bass Roll off filter ("MiKeJ")
Sony TCD-D3 ("Donald S. Konicoff")
AC/DC Boston 2000 dat for trade ("Luigi Bagatella")
ISO: taper for Slobberbone @ Borderline, London, UK - May 1st ("Michiel J.J.M. Oudendijk")
laptop sound cards + more questions (Adam Pease)
Re: FT: U2 4-20-01 Compaq San Jose Arena: San Jose, CA (Len Moskowitz)
Re: FT: U2 4-20-01 Compaq San Jose Arena: San Jose, CA (Mark Mayhle)
Re: FT: U2 4-20-01 Compaq San Jose Arena: San Jose, CA ("Rick B.")
From: "Bonnie & Cleve Svetlik" <Svetlik@Stratos.net>
Subject: Oktava MK319
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 14:56:38 -0400
I am considering purchasing a pair of these mikes for non-stealth recording.
A while ago there was a posting looking for opinions about the mikes - I did
not see a reply. (Might there been a reply off-list?) (My other mikes are
Shure SM81's.)
Cleve Svetlik
From: Aaron Westendorf <westea@rpi.edu>
Subject: ISO: tech help on PCM decoding
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:09:31 -0400
This is a resend of a message that didn't appear on either list. If it did
make it and I missed the post, I apologize. First of all, I apologize for
the lack of immediate B&P, I'm wrapping up my long four years of school in
the next week plus, and don't have the time to make offers. Hopefully I'll
be back in the community soon, I really miss the trading scene.
I'm taking a graduate course in 3D visualization, and for my final project
I want to show how sound dissipates from a stereo source in an open
environment. Without going into great detail here, I'll be using a wav file
as input (prolly some Floyd to give it a good effect ;). For submission we
need to create an mpeg of our output. IOW, the visualization will not be
real time, and there will be some editing of the output to insert screens
of comments and such. So, I need to figure out how to grab the following
from the raw data:
-frequency(s) of sound
-level of output
-timecode data
I'm quite familiar with how PCM is encoded, just don't know how to put it
back to "analog", or generate time code. Also, if anyone knows of any
speaker manufacturers that publish data on the output pattern of a model,
similar to what is used in regards to microphones, please pass along a URL.
Lastly, if anyone has some links handy that discuss sound dissapation and
have some equations that can be used to calculate the strength of a sound
wave traveling through air over time, I would appreciate that as well.
Doing my own hunt for all this, but figure some of the folks reading this
have come across some good stuff in their travels.
Thanks, and for your help, I invite you to contact me in mid-June once my
girl and I get settled down in Houston for a B&P. A long way off, I know,
but you can be sure I'll remember your kindness and hook you up when I'm
free. Just SHN/CD for now, but with a real job I'm seeing a shiny new R500
in my near future :)
cheers,
Aaron
Ps - just switched to Eudora, if I'm not sending plain text email,
**please** kindly inform me.
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Aaron J. Westendorf
DAT List -> http://www.rpi.edu/~westea/dat
"The price of liberty is eternal vigilance"
-Thomas Jefferson
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From: Matthew Giller <mtgiller@yahoo.com>
Subject: U2 DAT Masters: Portland and San Jose (4/19 & 4/20)
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:10:34 -0700 (PDT)
I have three DAT masters from U2's Elevation
tour. Here are the particulars:
04/15/2001-Rose Garden-Portland, OR USA (134 MIN)
04/19/2001-Compaq Center-San Jose, CA USA (132 MIN)
04/20/2001-Compaq Center-San Jose, CA USA (125 MIN)
Here is the recording equipment information
SP-CMC-10 Hyper-Cardioids>SP-BPF-2>Sony D8
The recording turned out nicely with minimally close
crowd noise.
I am looking for other DAT recordings by U2 from
the Elevation Tour in trade for this show. Please
contact me if you have recorded a show or have plans
to record future shows.
Thanks for the space!
Matt Giller
http://www.geocities.com/mtgiller/U2RecordingsPage.html
(follow the links to the Elevation Tour page)
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From: Delano <bluesky@mindspring.com>
Subject: ISO: Phil Atlanta/Asheville HAVE: Charlotte
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:16:07 -0400
I have Phil & Friends 4/20 (mbho 603a/ka200> adc-20> d8) on DAT (tracked)
and cdr. I am looking for 4/18 (Atlanta) and 4/19 (Asheville). Please
contact me if interested in a trade.
Take Care,
Delano
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From: KPS61@aol.com
Subject: Anyone Taping Van Morrison @ New Orleans Jazz Fest Next Weekend ?
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:41:25 EDT
Would very much like to get in touch with anyone who is planning on taping
either or both of Van Morrison's sets at next weekends New Orleans Jazz Fest
- much Van to offer in return.
Also still looking for early gen VHS copies of Van's TV appearances on The
Midnight Special 1977 & Don Kirschners 1973. These have likely been
rebroadcast over the years.
Thanks
Kevin
From: Scott.C.Brown@Dartmouth.EDU (Scott C. Brown)
Subject: for sale: david gray tix thurs
Reply-To: Scott.C.Brown@Dartmouth.EDU (scb)
Date: 22 Apr 2001 21:24:18 EDT
i have 2 tix for david gray at the flynn on thurs. asking for face value, i'll
pay for shipping
center section, row O seat 102, 101
scott
From: Dave <deadhead@now-online.com>
Subject: FT: J Mascis on CD-R
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 22:40:06 -0400
I have 2 Mascis shows on CD-R. They were both recorded to DAT from the
soundboard at the Grog Shop in Cleveland Hts. They were digitally
converted using the Gina soundcard. The dates are 2/5/01 and 4/3/01. The
2/5 show requires 2 discs(although not much will go on disc 2); the
4/3/01 will require an 80 min. disc. Am lookning for HQ Guided by
Voices.
Dave
From: "crak therapy" <crakt@hotmail.com>
Subject: Ben Harper w/ E.Vedder streaming audio via triplej
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 02:50:18 -0000
or FM if you're in australia
just saw on www.abc.net.au/triplej that in 8 hours:
another TripleJ "Live At The Wireless":
Ben Harper Live Monday 23rd 9pm (australian eastern time)
Ben Harper's showcase gig, acoustic and with a guest
appearance by Pearl Jam's Eddie Vedder. Monday night tune in
to hear this special Live At The Wireless.
this should also be replayed on Sunday 29th 5pm(australian eastern time)
the GMT's for these are i think(but don't quote me on this)
Monday 23rd 11am GMT
Sunday 29th 7am GMT
you can listen via realaudio or media player:
http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/listen.htm
i doubt it will be the entire set
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From: Michael Walter Connors <mwconnor@indiana.edu>
Subject: Extra DATS for trade
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 22:38:37 -0500 (EST)
I have the following Dead DATs for trade. They are all 90m unless noted.
Mostly all HS/4 90m, a few sonys.
9.3.67 RM->C>DAT>CD>EAC>CD>DAT
2.15.69 SBD>MC>CASS1>DAT>CD>DAT
4.22.69 sbd>MR>R(1)>DAT
9.29/30.69
6.18.74 SMR>?>D
2.26.77 RM->1PCM GEN>DAT
4.16.79 SBD>MCASS>DAT
12.27.80 SBD
4.1.84 SBD
4.21.84 fA:P
7.13.84 SBD
12.31.90 SBD
9.10.91 SBD>DAT
JGB
12.6.77 SBD(D:MSC>D) 2 60m
8.29.87 SBD>mCASS>DAT
14 90m
2 60m
Looking for cash or Mitsui CDRs. I will split if you want most of the
shows. Looking for even trade, I am not trying to make any profit at all.
Thanks
Mike Connors
mwconnor@indiana.edu
From: dimar <digitaldimar@yahoo.com>
Subject: Extra JGB 11-26-83 DAT Early and Late Binghampton...
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 23:57:06 -0700 (PDT)
....up for grabs! It's on a unlabeled 90 meter
and has no glitches!It's sbd/m>dat and sounds
awesome! I'd like to get a (4/01) recent Ratdog
show on cdr! Really I want all the Ratdog I can
Find! Have a Ton To Trade! :-)
bandwidth tax: This Show!! 2 cdrs(55+73mins.ea.)
Have a great Week
Dave
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Thanks
Dave
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From: TGermano@webtv.net (Toby Germano)
Subject: Grovelling in Sonoma for U2
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:18:30 -0700 (PDT)
I had to work at the last minute (I'm currently managing the Mysic
Theatre in Petaluma) and couldn't attend the San Jose shows. Did anyone
get good recordings? have lots (non-U2) to trade.
Thanks!
Toby Germano
tkz@davidbowie.com
http://community.webtv.net/TGermano/GERMANOWARFARE
From: "MiKeJ" <mikej@nirvanaclub.com>
Subject: FS: Sonic Studios DSM-6S/L and PA-6LC3B Bass Roll off filter
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:04:46 +0930
Hey,
I am in big need of a new guitar amp, and I am selling my mics. If anyone is
interested in them, please email me at mikej@nirvanaclub.com
Thanks
-Mike
From: "Donald S. Konicoff" <donaudio@gate.net>
Subject: Sony TCD-D3
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:12:51 -0400
I have a nonworking Sony TCD-D3 with all accessories for sale. Cosmetically
it is like new with two batteries.
From: "Luigi Bagatella" <luigi.bagatella@serenacom.net>
Subject: AC/DC Boston 2000 dat for trade
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:41:03 +0200
I have the following AC/DC show on dat:
08/08/2000 Boston, MA - Fleet Center 2cd/Aud [Realistic 1033 stereo mic ->
dat]
I would like to trade my tape for another show, even from other artists (U2,
Ben Harper, Pearl Jam, Deftones, etc.)
Send me your lists for a quick trade, thanks.
Luigi (from Italy)
http://luigibagatella.supereva.it
From: "Michiel J.J.M. Oudendijk" <mjjm@worldonline.nl>
Subject: ISO: taper for Slobberbone @ Borderline, London, UK - May 1st
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:30:22 +0200
Hello!
The band Slobberbone from Denton, TX will be touring in Europe the next 2
weeks and as Dutch fans my buddies and I will be documenting the 9 shows in
Holland. Due to financial considerations we'll have to skip the London gig,
so if anyone in the area is able to tape, we would love a copy.
Slobberbone is totally cool with fans taping their shows, their website is
at http://www.slobberbone.com
If you tape the gig, we've got plenty to trade for it.
Happy taping!
Michiel
"A little drizzle isn't going to do anything to us, right?" BNR 2000-04-01
From: Adam Pease <apease@ks.teknowledge.com>
Subject: laptop sound cards + more questions
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:23:10 -0700
Folks,
I was interested in Gary Blaisdell's question about laptop sound
cards. A quick Google search found
http://www.cdrecordingsoftware.com/wami_box.html which looks good but is a
bit pricey if all you want is SPDIF input to your laptop. Are folks aware
of any PCMCIA cards that just have SPDIF connectors and minimal other features?
I should also report that I'm enjoying my new CoreSounds Sony 7pin to
SPDIF coax cable (thanks to advice from this list). My current hardware
setup of Sony TCD D8 -> 7pin -> SPDIF coax -> SoundBlaster Live works
well. I then process the input in SoundForge and transfer to CD with
EZ-CD-pro. One question that I have is that I thought that (apart from the
resampling that SoundBlaster does) I would get a bit for bit copy from DAT
to PC. The level controls still affect the input however. Do the sound
level controls strictly just attenuate the input? It's hard to tell since
the DC8's level control seems a bit less sensitive than the "monitor" level
meters on the SoundForge record control window.
Adam
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From: Len Moskowitz <moskowit@panix.com>
Subject: Re: FT: U2 4-20-01 Compaq San Jose Arena: San Jose, CA
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:38:21 -0400 (EDT)
"Rick B." <rarepj@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I recorded last night's (4-20-01) U2 show using the folowing rig:
> Core Sound Cardioids > Bass roll-off filter ( @ 120 Hz) > Sony TCD-D8
>
> But the recording level is VERY low. I used the 'mic sens low' with a
> recording level of 10. I guess I should have had it 'mic sens high' cause
> now I really have to crank up the volume to hear it. Its too bad because the
> recording came out pretty good too.
Assuming that you were plugged into the mic input, your setup was
correct and you should have had good levels. If levels were too low
with that setup, perhaps the battery in the battery box is dead? Have
you checked it lately?
The common 9 Volt "transistor radio" alkaline battery lasts 300 to 500
hours. Replace it by unscrewing the four screws on the top. Unclip the
old battery, clip in the new battery and replace the top with the four
screws. It's a good idea to replace the battery at least once a year.
Be sure to unplug the mics from the battery box when not in use.
I hope that this helped!
Len Moskowitz Binaural and StealthMics (tm), Cables, Interfaces
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com
moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
From: Mark Mayhle <mark@mayhle.com>
Subject: Re: FT: U2 4-20-01 Compaq San Jose Arena: San Jose, CA
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:36:02 -0500 (CDT)
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Len Moskowitz wrote:
> "Rick B." <rarepj@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I recorded last night's (4-20-01) U2 show using the folowing rig:
> > Core Sound Cardioids > Bass roll-off filter ( @ 120 Hz) > Sony TCD-D8
> >
> > But the recording level is VERY low. I used the 'mic sens low' with a
> > recording level of 10. I guess I should have had it 'mic sens high' cause
>
> Assuming that you were plugged into the mic input, your setup was
> correct and you should have had good levels. If levels were too low
> with that setup, perhaps the battery in the battery box is dead? Have
> you checked it lately?
I used the same setup but on a D100 and got perfect levels at low mic
sensitivity with the level control probably around 7-8 (I wasn't looking).
This was taping U2 at the Tacoma Dome, about as far away from the stage as
it was possible to be. Oops, and also I didn't use the bass rolloff.
--
Mark Mayhle
mark@mayhle.com
From: "Rick B." <rarepj@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: FT: U2 4-20-01 Compaq San Jose Arena: San Jose, CA
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:45:35 -0700
First thing is that: Yes the mic was in the 'mic input' and second thing is
that my 'battery box' was brand new. It was first time I used it.
Does anybody else have any other idea why the level was so low?
Also... My Y-Adapter is stuck in my 'battery box' any idea why it might be
stuck and any clues on how to get it off? I pulled as hard as I could with
no luck. I'm afraid I'm going to rip the wire off
Thanks,
Rick
http://www.pearljamshn.com/trading.htm
>From: Len Moskowitz <moskowit@panix.com>
>To: DAT-heads@datheads.phish.net
>CC: "Rick B." <rarepj@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: FT: U2 4-20-01 Compaq San Jose Arena: San Jose, CA
>Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:38:21 -0400 (EDT)
>
>"Rick B." <rarepj@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I recorded last night's (4-20-01) U2 show using the folowing rig:
> > Core Sound Cardioids > Bass roll-off filter ( @ 120 Hz) > Sony TCD-D8
> >
> > But the recording level is VERY low. I used the 'mic sens low' with a
> > recording level of 10. I guess I should have had it 'mic sens high'
>cause
> > now I really have to crank up the volume to hear it. Its too bad because
>the
> > recording came out pretty good too.
>
>Assuming that you were plugged into the mic input, your setup was
>correct and you should have had good levels. If levels were too low
>with that setup, perhaps the battery in the battery box is dead? Have
>you checked it lately?
>
>The common 9 Volt "transistor radio" alkaline battery lasts 300 to 500
>hours. Replace it by unscrewing the four screws on the top. Unclip the
>old battery, clip in the new battery and replace the top with the four
>screws. It's a good idea to replace the battery at least once a year.
>
>Be sure to unplug the mics from the battery box when not in use.
>
>I hope that this helped!
>
>
>Len Moskowitz Binaural and StealthMics (tm), Cables, Interfaces
>Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
>Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com
>moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
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