DAT-heads Digest #868
Contents:
Re: M1 and 6V power ("Len Moskowitz")
BUSTED Knopfler Wallingford ct 04/24/01 HELP !!!! ("Steve Hussong")
AMM/Evan Parker etc ("Alan Kayser")
M1 Power & Stealth Mics ("Darrin McKeehen")
ISO: Earplugs ("Darrin McKeehen")
J Mascis & The Fog (Adam Smith)
ISO: RATDOG 4/1/01 (Glenn & Shellbee)
Tascam DA-P1 for sale (bk@cloud9.net)
M1 + 6 Volts ("Pat K")
Roland UA30/Wavterminal U2A/VX Pocket PC MIDI Recording Card??? (Ruderallis@aol.com)
RE: Shorten Files ("Jackson Gibbs")
Sony DAT Walkman Accessories for Sale ("Robert Ingves")
FS: GP DMIC20 44.1 and power supply/charger (mburgio@lightbridge.com)
FYI: NEW G3 2001 Tour dates = Satch, Vai and John Petrucci ("Tatina, Bill")
Coaxial signal loss? (Jay Fitzgerald)
WTB: Oade Active (7-pin coax/coax) or RK-DA10P ("Joe Totoraitis")
Digi-Cable Help?!?! (WFUNKDADDY@aol.com)
Re: NO NO NO! (Len Moskowitz)
Re: Help with inexpensive soundcard (midiman???) (Len Moskowitz)
Re: Help with inexpensive soundcard (midiman???) (Neal Copperman)
From: "Len Moskowitz" <moskowit@core-sound.com>
Subject: Re: M1 and 6V power
Reply-To: "Len Moskowitz" <moskowit@core-sound.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:47:34 -0400 (EDT)
Warren wrote:
> I would think that a really quick solution to this might be the addition of
> a simple 7805 voltage regulator in your power line. This should take pretty
> much anything between 6 and 12V on the input and give you a steady 5V on the
> output side.
The 7805 typically needs a 2 volt differential between input and output,
so you'd need at least 7 Volts on its input.
> and since the leads are input, ground and output, wiring it
> into your power line would be as simple as cutting the + lead, soldering to
> the 2 outer leads on the 7805, and stripping back a little bit of the ground
> and soldering the center lead there. OK, maybe a little electrical tape
> something else to cover the exposed leads might be a good idea too :)
With the 7805 you should use a tantalum cap on the input side for
filtering and an electrolytic on the output for stability.
Len Moskowitz Binaural and StealthMics (tm), Cables, Interfaces
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com
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From: "Steve Hussong" <chop@cshore.com>
Subject: BUSTED Knopfler Wallingford ct 04/24/01 HELP !!!!
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:19:21 -0400
I did not get busted but my tape deck busted at the show if anyone can
help me out please let me know I have tons to trade .
STEVE
From: "Alan Kayser" <alankayser@hotmail.com>
Subject: AMM/Evan Parker etc
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:27:11 -0400
I am wondering if anyone on this list has had the good fortune to tape any
of the current AMM tour, likewise Evan Parker. Living in Florida is a
musical bummer. Please contact me off list, have lots of jazz to trade.
Alan E Kayser
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From: "Darrin McKeehen" <dmckeehen@hotmail.com>
Subject: M1 Power & Stealth Mics
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 21:50:17
Hey Now!
I have been seeing this powering the M1 thread and the stealth mic thread
for a while. Time for my $.02....
Funny, no one has mentioned......
www.oade.com
First off, the Oades make a 4.5v acid-rechargeable battery that is perfect
for the M1. Seems like I have mentioned it before.....
This thing goes for about $45-50. It comes w/ a smart charger that has an
indicator light showing power and another that shows you that the battery is
fully charged. You can get about 15 hours on this battery. I own 2!
I have flown on planes many times and have never been questioned about them
(another thread).
Seems like the Oades make a 7.2v acid-rechargeable as well.....
Second off, I got a pair of Oade stealth mics when I bought my M1 from them.
They offered a pre-amp modification as part of a package deal for buying
their mics. Basically, the preamp modification is a bass rolloff.
When stealthing, I always go with the mic input and the
20db cut. Works like a charm.
I may sound like a commercial, but I think that the Oade mics sound better
than the Core Sounds. No offense! Everyone has their own special tastes.
Peace & moe.
Darrin
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From: "Darrin McKeehen" <dmckeehen@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO: Earplugs
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:00:54
Hey again!
I just did the past 2 WSP shows. Ever since Andy took over as the new
soundman, the majority of the shows that I have attended have been TOO LOUD.
In Macon Dave Schools' bass was extremely saturated through the PA several
times. In Savannah the sound level was perfect for the first set, but part
way through the second set opener, Andy cranked the PA. For the rest of the
set, I was in physical pain from the deafening levels. Not good!
My hearing is very precious to me.
Whoever said, "If it's too loud, you're too old." was an idiot! I have seen
many heavy bands in the past and many of them were not as loud as these
passed 2 shows.
It's tough to enjoy music when the levels are causing pain.
I saw a thread some time back about EARPLUGS.
Could someone please point me in the direction to find some good earplugs??
Thanx!
Darrin
PS I will do a B&P (DAT only) of WSP Savannah for the first person to
respond.
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From: Adam Smith <adaml@lanset.com>
Subject: J Mascis & The Fog
Reply-To: adaml@lanset.com
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:08:52 -0700
Does anyone know J Mascis taping policy? I know Watt is cool with it but
he is just a band member this time. What about set length?
Thanks, Adam
From: Glenn & Shellbee <rosebud1@mindspring.com>
Subject: ISO: RATDOG 4/1/01
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:00:23 -0400
hey all....
im looking for a copy of the RATDOG show from the Tabernacle in Atlanta on
4/1/01. i brought my deck but the batterys went bad, its a long story
but... Anyhow ive got tons of dead, phish, jgb, ratdog, sci, wsp etc to
trade. Super hq only please. if you have this fantastic show please drop
me an email at rosebud1@mindspring.com and we can set something
up....thanks in advance
peace love and mischief
glenn
From: bk@cloud9.net
Subject: Tascam DA-P1 for sale
Reply-To: bk@cloud9.net
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:50:47 GMT
I have had this unit for about 9 months and has only been used 5 times. 1 field recording and 4 times to burn a CD. This unit is in EXCELLENT condition Not a scratch! For more info goto www.tascam.com! Original Box and manuals included. I purchased a home consumer deck and I no longer need this unit.
Firm price $950.00
If interested email me at: bk@cloud9.net
I Accept Cashier Check or Money Order or Paypal only. Buyer to add $20.00 for shipping/handling. Thanks for looking.
· Multiple sampling rates (48kHz, 44.1kHz, 32kHz)
· SPDIF coax digital I/O
· RCA unbalanced analog I/O
· SCMS free recording
· Balanced XLR mic/line inputs with +48v phantom power, -20dB pad & limiter
· 2 hour battery life from 1 1/2 hour charging time
· Backlit LCD display for low light conditions · One battery and shoulder strap included
· Optional additional batteries available (BP-D1)
· Optional external battery charger (CB-D1) · Optional carrying case (CS-D1)
TASCAM's DA-P1 is a sturdy portable DAT deck with a feature set you'd expect to find on a full-sized studio centerpiece. The DA-P1 features include a switchable 48V phantom power, built in limiter with 20 dB pad for confidence in recording without worrying about clipping, SCMS free recording, SPDIF I/O, and quick charge battery system with a 2 hour play/record time. Of course it can handle recording and playback at 48, 44.1, or 32 kHz. The DA-P1's mic/line inputs and phantom power are very unique; it's like taking the power of the mixing board with you out on the job. The DA-P1 also has an optional external charger, battery pack, and carrying case, to take it with you wherever you might go. It's the perfect set-up for recording interviews, gathering Foley FX, or just recording no matter where you might be. For a professional and durable DAT recorder that can go wherever you go, the TASCAM DA-P1 has all the features you need and then some.
From: "Pat K" <hoobash@hotmail.com>
Subject: M1 + 6 Volts
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 20:52:04 -0400
I talked to paul at pro digital about this subject. He said they have had to
repair a good amount of m1 that used 6 volts. He recomend staying away from
6 volts. I would stick 4.5 volts sony decks dont need another reason to
break.
From: Ruderallis@aol.com
Subject: Roland UA30/Wavterminal U2A/VX Pocket PC MIDI Recording Card???
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 21:14:30 EDT
From my understanding, USB devices are all 16bit as far as the transfer is
concerned; they can not write 24 bit on the hard drive because of the
connection. And, the USB 24bit input is "dithered" to 16 bit. Which is CD
standard anyway and is what shns are formatted to (I will use the mostly for
seeding shows on etree). So, here is the question? So, what flexibility do
I loose by making the 16bit choice over the 24bit soundcard? I have a
laptop, It seems that the VXpocketmidi card is a viable option, but what is
the tradeoff besides price?
Waveterminal U2A $235
Roland UA30 $219
Both found at
www.bayviewproaudio.com
VX Pocket PC MIDI Recording Card $599
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/
thanks, David Ziff (Eugene)
also looking for Jacob Lamberg? Where 'da cat at?:)
.
From: "Jackson Gibbs" <gibbs@crater.net>
Subject: RE: Shorten Files
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:21:30 -0700
> > Can anybody tell me if the Shorten files (.shn) from etree are truly
exact
> > digital clones?
>
> They *Should* be, but you have to trust that the person supplying
> the source knows what they are doing. Detailed source information
> usually indicates the level of competance of the user.
>
Well, at least with shn files you have a way of verifying that what you have
is an *exact* clone of the seed shn. Not a pop of diginoise, not a bit out
of place, nobody did an analog transfer along the way, but an *exact* clone.
Best of all, you don't have to listen to the whole show to verify that it's
good.
Prior to sending a trade I typically run all of the md5sums for the show to
be sure it's absolutely correct... can verify tens of hours of music in an
evening.
I've got a fair number of shn shows [ http://db.etree.org/ae35unit ] and I
have to say that I love the format so far. Not only do you get md5sum
verification, but the extracted product is a wav file that can be
transferred to a minidisc portable, burnt to cd, or encoded to mp3. Of
course the mp3s can then be broadcast on internet radio or transferred to a
portable or car mp3 player... lots of options.
Now if only they'd build a recorder the size of an M1 with a 30GB laptop
hard drive in it... maybe I haven't thought that idea all the way through,
but it seems to me to be the only potential replacement for dat. Ignoring
battery life, you could easily record 15 shows on it... then it's just a
quick firewire dump onto your pc... or better yet, slip it into your
laptop... okay, I'm just dreaming now ;-)
-Jackson
From: "Robert Ingves" <ringves@hotmail.com>
Subject: Sony DAT Walkman Accessories for Sale
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 03:11:19
If you're interested in some Sony DAT Walkman Accessories, please check out
my auction on ebay.
Here is the link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1231671798
Here is the text of my listing:
The following items are accessories for the Sony DAT Walkman TCD-D3 (and
possibly other Sony DAT Walkman models). Following each item is the
replacement cost quoted to me by a Sony parts distributor. 1) carrying case
for TCD-D3 ($35); 2)RK-DA10 digital connecting cable for co-axial jacks
($65); 3) POC-DA12 digital cable for optical jacks ($100); and 4) CPM-D3 Car
Mount Arm for securing the TCD-D3 for use in your car (no replacement cost
provided as this item is no longer available). Buyer to pay actual shipping
cost. I accept money orders from either the post office or Western Union.
As of Wednesday evening, the accessories are priced at only $70.
The auction ends on Sunday.
' Hope to hear from you.
Robert
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From: mburgio@lightbridge.com
Subject: FS: GP DMIC20 44.1 and power supply/charger
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:05:05 -0400
Due to a so called 'serious' buyer backing out at the last minute I still
have the following to sell:
(1) Graham Patten DMIC20 44.1
This unit has been used about 10 times, is in perfect cosmetic condition
and even comes with the original box and manual.
I also have the following power supply for the DMIC20 complete with
battery, charger, and cable to connect directly into the DMIC20.
Power Sonic 6volt 7aH battery with Float Charger
The DMIC20 is $475 and the battery/cable/charger is $40 or I will sell the
whole package together for $500.
Please email me if you are SERIOUSLY interested.
thanks,
marco
From: "Tatina, Bill" <Bill.Tatina@nordstrom.com>
Subject: FYI: NEW G3 2001 Tour dates = Satch, Vai and John Petrucci
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:52:45 -0600
http://www.satriani.com/perl/genframe?section=road/
From: Jay Fitzgerald <jayfitz@micron.net>
Subject: Coaxial signal loss?
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 09:11:43 -0600
Hi All,
I've had to run abt 30 feet of Phoenix coaxial (video) dub cable from my
DA-20 to my ZA2 soundcard. Now when I do an A-B comparison of test burn
cd-rs to source dats, I can hear abt a 10% loss in 'definition'. Is this
a characteristic of signal loss due to cable length? An inferior cable?
The layout of my office limits my ability to puy the dat deck closer to
the PC.... Solutions?
thanks,
jay
From: "Joe Totoraitis" <rockumal@hotmail.com>
Subject: WTB: Oade Active (7-pin coax/coax) or RK-DA10P
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:31:25 -0500
SSIA. I'm even willing to buy a damaged cable provided the 7-pin connector
works.
o----------------------------o-----------------------------o
Joe Totoraitis -o- rockumal@hotmail.com
Tapelist: http://www.geocities.com/rockumal/tapetracker.html
"You plant ice you're gonna harvest wind" - Robert Hunter
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From: WFUNKDADDY@aol.com
Subject: Digi-Cable Help?!?!
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:51:29 EDT
hello all....
i am in search of a new digi cable for my d8. i used to use the pro-digital 7pin>coax, which worked fine for a while, but as many people know with this brand of cable, over time they tend to begin to have problems. my input is fine, but my output will not support or send a signal.
so...i know there are a couple other companies out there that make 7 pin>coax(in/out) cables, but have had a brain freeze as to who makes them and where to buy them. what is the consensus, in terms of the most reliable and durable cable out there now?
any and all help would be greatly appriciated.
take care,
walt
From: Len Moskowitz <moskowit@panix.com>
Subject: Re: NO NO NO!
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:39:56 -0400 (EDT)
Leonard Lombardo <GuySonic@aol.com> wrote:
> All these binaural mics you see offered have way too much sensitivity
> to record concert level bass directly into the mic input. ...
This is wrong. Our CSB and CSSC mics have their sensitivity adjusted to
reduce mic pre-amp overload.
And as with any mic (Neumann, Schoeps, Danish Pro Audio included), when
you present them with a sound pressure level that will overload your mic
pre-amp, you should use an attenuator cable to knock the level down.
If you use a mic that has an inherently low sensitivity, you will lose
the ability to make truly quiet recordings, as the trade-off for lower
sensitivity is higher self-noise (hiss). This is what we tell the folks who
are recording loud concerts with their Sony MZ-R90 (and a few other
models MD recorders that lack a low sensitivity setting on their mic
pre-amp), and want a very low cost set of low sensitivity,
recorder-powered microphones.
The ideal situation is to have a mic that's very, very sensitive, and
then to attenuate its output as necessary. That way, when you record
very quiet sounds, you have the sensitivity and low self-noise that you
need. And when you record very loud sound source, you can accommodate
literally any level you'll possibly face by having a variety of
attenuator cables in your field kit. (Keep in mind, that to use an
external attenuator, the mics must be self-powered -- you can't power the
mics from the recorder.)
By the way, we offer both recorder-powered and self-powered mics, so we
don't have a bias one way or the other.
> DSM models are designed correctly in the first place to always use the JUST
> THE MIC INPUT, and can be directly powered by the deck (NOTE: most DAT's need
> MOD-2 upgrade) ...
And we still feel it's a very bad idea to have to modify your DAT deck
(voiding your factory warranty in the process) to correct for a
microphone's shortcomings.
Len Moskowitz Binaural and StealthMics (tm), Cables, Interfaces
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com
moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
From: Len Moskowitz <moskowit@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Help with inexpensive soundcard (midiman???)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:59:03 -0400 (EDT)
Neal Copperman <neal@swcp.com> wrote:
> >Did you return an Audiophile 2496 or the DiO 2448? If it was the 2496,
> >what problems did you have?
>
> I believe it was the 2496 that I returned. (Digital I/O, TOSLINK and
> Coax, and analog input only, I think).
The Audiophile 2496 does not have Toslink I/O, so what you returned was
either the known troublesome DiO 2448 or perhaps, the usually
well-thought-of Delta DiO 2496.
Thanks for the kind words about our service and microphones!
Len Moskowitz Binaural and StealthMics (tm), Cables, Interfaces
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com
moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
From: Neal Copperman <neal@swcp.com>
Subject: Re: Help with inexpensive soundcard (midiman???)
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:09:04 -0600 (MDT)
On Thu, 26 Apr 2001, Len Moskowitz wrote:
> The Audiophile 2496 does not have Toslink I/O, so what you returned was
> either the known troublesome DiO 2448 or perhaps, the usually
> well-thought-of Delta DiO 2496.
That's it, it was the Delta Dio 2496. Sorry about any confusion that may
have caused.
neal
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