DAT-heads Digest #992
Contents:
Re: Denon CD Duper ("Gary Davis")
Re: Denon CD Duper (Seth Breidbart)
Extras up for grabs ("Mr. Groovunit")
FS: Earthworks SR-71s (mattz62@juno.com)
ISO: gd 89-12-28 ("Nick Georges")
Looking for Chris Cornell DATs ("Ethan Upper")
DATs / CDRs for BnP or trade ("Vikas Bhatia")
Volume Envelope? (Alan Saferstein)
Re: Lucinda Williams (Kurt Vogel)
Grovel for a patch at the Word/Robert Randolph - Irving Plaza this Wed ("Owen O'Neill")
Re: DAT-heads Digest #990 (dgale@loslobos.org)
M1 Battery Life (Keith Shapiro)
So Many Roads Tour Questions (TheWarehouse41@aol.com)
ISO: Depche Mode 08.04.01 Shoreline (Jason Roth)
WTD - Woody Allen Jazz Band - Seattle or Oakland (Jerry Zigmont)
Re: Sony D7 44.1 Khz sampling rate? ("Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.")
Checking # of hours on Tascam DA20MKII (Jason Heckathorn)
ISO foster420@jps.net (Mark McHarg)
FS: ZA-2 ("Derek Swingley")
Death Cab For Cutie UK Dates - Tapers? ("Andy Swinburnson")
Living Colour (now on tour) / Radiohead Toronto 2000 (willard robinson)
windscreens ("rob landis")
FS: ZA-2 ("Derek Swingley")
Extra shows for BnP (Matt Edlhuber)
From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com>
Subject: Re: Denon CD Duper
Reply-to: gdavis@loop.com
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 22:20:36 -0700
For the record, the DAT Store sells both the Marantz CD duper,
and the Denon CD duper. They both cost us exactly the same,
and they sell for exactly the same. We have them both in stock.
Therefore, I believe I can be completely unbiased if I think one is
better than the other.
If another dealer "slams" one of these two products, I think it's fair
to ask, "Do you only sell the other one?"
--Gary
From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Denon CD Duper
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 01:52:32 -0400 (EDT)
> If another dealer "slams" one of these two products, I think it's
> fair to ask, "Do you only sell the other one?"
The next question is, of course, "Is that cause or effect?"
Seth
From: "Mr. Groovunit" <groovunit@hotmail.com>
Subject: Extras up for grabs
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 09:01:01 -0400
Greetings All,
I've got the following CD's up for grabs:
Banyan
Mr. T's Bowl, LA, CA 5/21/99 65 DSBD 1cd EX
MMW
Palace Theater, Albany, NY 12/1/00 w/ Trey DAUD 3cd EX-
(Schoeps CCM4>V2>D10)
Nine Inch Nails
Nassua Coliseum, Long Island, NY 1/6/95 105 DAUD 2cd EX-
(Sonic Studios>D7)
The Who
Tommy Demo's 1968 74 SBD 1cd EX-
Phish 9/16/98 DAUD 3cd’s EX-
(Neumann KM84’s>Aerco)
Sector 9
Cotton Club, Atlanta, GA 5/19/00 DSBD 3cd’s EX
Jonas Hellborg Trio
Somerville The, Somerville, MA 5/2/97 DSBD 1cd EX
The Lily's
Maxwell's, Hoboken, NJ 2/19/97 45 DAUD DC EX
Drop me a url or list if interested.
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From: mattz62@juno.com
Subject: FS: Earthworks SR-71s
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 09:35:04 -0400
One matched pair of Earthworks SR-71s for sale. Purchased new from Sonic
Sense July '99. The mics are in perfect condition and come in the
plastic tubes with the windscreens and mic clips. Asking $500 for the
pair, serious inquiries only please. Send e-mail to either mpfeil@vt.edu
or mattz62@juno.com .
Matt Pfeil
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From: "Nick Georges" <nick@nickspicks.com>
Subject: ISO: gd 89-12-28
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 09:53:52 -0400
Howdy all..
I have to grovel for this show. I've been looking for quite some time for a
digital copy of this. I had a great fob analog years ago, so I know its out
there someplace.
Grateful Dead
Oakland coliseum
December 28th, 1989
Lots to trade, or b&p in the mail when you say "go"!
lists can be found at the link below.
thanks!!
My grovel comes w/an offer:
B&P for the first few folks who would like the newly circulating PRE-FM dsbd
of Boston 10-1-94 in SHN format. It's sparkling clean.
email me for details
www.nickspicks.com
From: "Ethan Upper" <ethan@ethanandsam.com>
Subject: Looking for Chris Cornell DATs
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 10:04:38 -0400
Anyone have DATs of Chris Cornell from '99-'00? I'm a newbie and don't have
much to trade, so I'm hoping someone will take pity on me and work something
out with me (blank media, whatever?) :-)
If you're interested, email me and I'll tell you what I do have and maybe we
can work something out!
Thanks!
-Ethan
From: "Vikas Bhatia" <vikas10@hotmail.com>
Subject: DATs / CDRs for BnP or trade
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 10:03:37 -0500
extras can be found at http://vikas.breakerfall.net/bnp.html
please email me w/ any questions.
thanks
From: Alan Saferstein <gruvenon@netzero.net>
Subject: Volume Envelope?
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 12:14:45 -0400
I use Sound Forge 4.0 and it allows you to adjust the volume of a
selected range by shaping a line. The problem I have found is that this
line cannot be raised over 100% or 0 dB, that is, it can only fade, not
raise the volume in the envelope. Hence, SF calls the feature Graphic
Fading. Is there other software or a later version of SF that will let
you do this and raise the volume? I typically have to combine Graphic
Fading with raising the volume of the selection to get the desired
effect.
Thanks,
Alan
> From: "Gary Davis"
> Subject: Re: compressor vs. volume envelope
> Reply-to: gdavis@loop.com
> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:15:37 -0700
>
>
> > normalize) it to even out the differences in signal. I'm hoping to
> > avoid making a volume envelope. Maybe some sort of compressor/limiter
> > filter? Hope one of you can help me salvage an otherwise nice tape.
>
> Why don't you want to make a "volume envelope" - a "hand-drawn"
> curve of gain adjustment? I do this all the time. I think manual
> gain adjustments are *much better* than compression, because
> you're not changing the character of the sound, just the overall
> volume.
>
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From: Kurt Vogel <kwvogel@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Lucinda Williams
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 09:43:06 -0700 (PDT)
While in the past I think Lucinda herself has been somewhat ambivalent
about taping, her road manager (at least on her most recent tour before
this one), was very, very anti-taper (taper=bootlegger, period).
Certainly, she has no official "open-taping" policy in place, and your
best bet is to stealth. Shows on this tour are well under 2-hours.
> I'm going to catch Lucinda tonight at The Celebrity
> Thtr in Phoenix and was wondering if anyone knows her
> stance on taping. I've spent a good part of the day
> (and now night, turning to day ;) ) researching
> this, and i can't find anything either way (yup,i
> already checked BTAT).
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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From: "Owen O'Neill" <oweno@home.com>
Subject: Grovel for a patch at the Word/Robert Randolph - Irving Plaza this Wed
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:06:34 -0400
Please..... !!! I'll be at the show this Wednesday night - Irving Plaza
NYC. I have a trusty set of AT853 's that I use for stealthing (the majority
of what I tape) but have no stand or full size mic's. I'd much prefer a
patch for my M-1 so I don't have to stand like a zombie on the mezzanine,
keeping my mic's perfectly positioned in my hat or collar. I will gratefully
provide a few tasty discs to whoever can help out (including a Stanhope
House Robert Randolph show from this past winter/spring). Please reply
offline to save bandwidth. Thanks!
Owen O'Neill
From: dgale@loslobos.org
Subject: Re: DAT-heads Digest #990
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 18:30:16 GMT
>
> > I have 2 Denon DTR-80Ps. One is still working fine, with the original
> > heads, has never had service, since 1993. The other needs new heads. I
> > wish I could buy another.
I will second the praise for the DTR-80P - I love this deck. Denon will no
longer service these units but Pro-Digital was more than happy and able to fix
mine recently at a very reasonable price. If anyone has another they want to
sell, working or not, please get in touch.
> The only real complaints I have with this unit compared to the M1 is
> that it doesn't have a digital pass-through capability (unless using
> optical in/coax out) for chaining, and it only seems to last about
> 2-3 hours on 6-1500 mAH NiMH's (I don't have the original battery)
> where the M1 lasts 4+ hours on 2.
You definitely can do digital chaining via the coax in/out on these units. The
coax in/out is a 1/8" stereo mini plug, so if ou get a 1/8"mini>RCA l&r adapter
then you use one of the RCA's for digital in and the other for digital out (I
think red/"right" is the digital out but can't remember). Works like a charm. I
like this deck for stealth duty a lot more then my D7 as the light is a more
subtle amber color and you can stick it face up in a fanny pack and check levels
easily, while you need to turn the Sony decks to read the signal on the top of
the deck. As for batteries, I never had the original battery but have the 6 AA
cell pack that came with it and have always found it will more then go the
distance on six regular alkaline batteries (i.e easily 3-4 hours). Since it
requires 9v rather then 6v, I can't run it off my eco-charges, but have been
meaning to contact eco-charge and see if they make a 9v system.
>
> Does anyone happen to have a spare manual (or photocopy) or any other
> accessories I might be interested in?
>
I'll second this request - I've never had the manual for this deck and would love
to have a copy. I'd been happy to trade a tape or some discs from my collection
in return, or could offer copies of the D7, SBM-1, and/or PCM-R500 manuals in
exchange. Please get in touch if you can help.
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From: Keith Shapiro <keither@iname.com>
Subject: M1 Battery Life
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:39:30 -0400 (EDT)
I've posted this before, but seems like I need to do it again.
I've been happily taping with an M1 since July '98. I never used the Sony
batteries (in fact, they got lost in my move, so I have no idea where they
are). At first I used a 3-D cell sled that I constructed. That became
unwieldy and the connectors weren't on very well so I decided to switch to
the AAs.
I regularly get well more than 3+ hours of continuous use out of Duracell
Ultra AAs. This means 3 hours of recording, some rewind, and then at
least another hour of playback after the show. However, I do the unpack
either on the AC power source or on an old set of batteries before the
show, and don't load my new batteries until I'm ready to enter the venue
(at most 4 hours prior to showtime). I'm recording line or mic-in with no
digital outputs, no headphones plugged in, and the light off.
I'm certain you could probably get similar results with the new Energizer
"plus" batteries. I've stuck with the Duracells because I've had
confirmation after confirmation of their reliability.
YMMV.
Keith
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From: TheWarehouse41@aol.com
Subject: So Many Roads Tour Questions
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 14:59:04 EDT
How long has the entire show been running? How much tape/battery power am I
going to be needing? Taping section or from your seat? Video? Thanks
-Cameron
From: Jason Roth <jroth79@pacbell.net>
Subject: ISO: Depche Mode 08.04.01 Shoreline
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 13:15:30 -0700
Hey all,
I wasn't able to make this show due to work, but if anyone taped it in
high quality please e-mail me. I have Sacramento and Concord in amazingly
good quality. Some of the best shows I have ever done. Ran DPA-4061s with
great seats as well =).
I will ONLY trade either of my sets for the Shoreline show right now. I
don't have time to really trade for other stuff, I am too busy with other
stuff.
Also looking for any high quality sources of any New Order shows that
feature Billy Corgan on guitar. I have the whole main stage of Area One from
Shoreline, again with DPAs. Thanks and have a nice week everyone!
-Jason
From: Jerry Zigmont <zigmont@mindspring.com>
Subject: WTD - Woody Allen Jazz Band - Seattle or Oakland
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 16:31:01 -0400
Woody Allen Jazz Band
Did anyone tape the following performances last week at
Aug 2:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Seattle, WA -=A0 "Jazz Alley"
or
Aug 3:=A0 Oakland, CA - "Yoshi's "
Looking to trade.
Kind reply appreciated
Thanks
=A0=A0=A0=20
From: "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." <wayne@hoxnet.com>
Subject: Re: Sony D7 44.1 Khz sampling rate?
Reply-To: <wayne@hoxnet.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 17:12:33 -0500 (CDT)
On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, acffhmorst wrote:
> You can only lock to a 44.1KHz digital signal, from analog you would
> wind up at 48KHz. . . I think that's so Sony can sell you a bit-mapper
> (SBM-1) but the joke's on them, 'cause the (expensive) Apogee sounds
> better. The D-10 is the same way with the 48KHz form analog, but has
> better A->D converters than the D-7.
>
> -tom
>
> > The Sony D7 owner's manual says you can record using 48, 44, or 32 Khz
> > sampling rates. However, the switch only allows you to switch between
> > SP and
> > LP. Is it possible to record at 44.1 Khz using a mic, or does this
> > sampling
> > rate only activate if you are hooked up digitally to a CD player?
>
I seem to recall reading somewhere that early "Non-Pro" decks didn't
support analog > 44.1 because they didn't want bands/amateurs to use
cheaper decks to make their own CD's etc. This may be a wives tale,
but it seems to go along with all the BS logic that RIAA, etc. use
in making their decisions.
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From: Jason Heckathorn <ja2488@yahoo.com>
Subject: Checking # of hours on Tascam DA20MKII
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 15:15:13 -0700 (PDT)
Hello all, I apologize if this request has been
posted/answered before. I attempted to find such a
post via the search engine but no such luck. I'm
attempting to determine the # of hours on my Tascam
DA20MKII. I can't find anything in the manual either.
Can anyone help? I had hoped to sell the deck so such
information is vital. Thanks in advance for any
guidance. Be well - Jason
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From: Mark McHarg <frankophile@ntlworld.com>
Subject: ISO foster420@jps.net
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 23:28:35 +0100
hey dude your email bounces.
get back if you've changed ISPs or whatever.
- mark
From: "Derek Swingley" <fluffmasterflex@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: ZA-2
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 17:40:29 -0500
Anyone interested in buying this card? I have the maual and and the
breakout cable. The card still works fine but I just don't need it anymore.
$175 OBO.
From: "Andy Swinburnson" <swinburnson1@home.com>
Subject: Death Cab For Cutie UK Dates - Tapers?
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 16:40:38 -0700
Just checking to see if anyone could catch either of the following dates:
Death Cab For Cutie
--
Aug. 6th Water Rats Theatre (London)
Aug. 7th Club Fandango (London)
I know this is very short notice, but if anyone frequents any of these
clubs,
Death Cab will allow SBD patches and video. As long as the venue doesn't
mind. I've got lots to offer in return.
Please reply thru email...
Thanks for the b/w -- Andy
From: willard robinson <willr@star.net>
Subject: Living Colour (now on tour) / Radiohead Toronto 2000
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 20:55:56 -0400
Still looking for a clean copy of the 10/2000 webcast from toronoto (would
prefer
a different source then the web, but will take what I can get).
Also Living Colour is touring again -
check http://www.willcalhoun.com/tourschedule.shtml
for the dates (mostly in europe now).
I have an excellent copy of the 5/31/01 Galaxy Theatre show webcast (2cds)
(it has been re-mastered, there are still some slight artifacts, but it is
an excellent show)
thanks
Will
From: "rob landis" <nocturnalsunshine@hotmail.com>
Subject: windscreens
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 21:07:05 -0400
you can make windsceens out of pantyhose- this is often done in project
studios to make a pop filter for vocal mics. pop filters are essenttially
the same as windscreens. i have a really good article on how to make one
cheaply using supplies from a home depot- type place. however, this article
assumes that the wind is coming from directly in front, not from all around,
so you'd need to adapt the design to extend all around the mic capsule.
basically any type of cloth can work as a windscreen/pop filter. the
thicker it is, the more effective, but the more it will muffle the highs.
maybe take a tube sock and replace the foot/tip area with pantyhose. if
that's not enough defense against wind, add a 2nd layer, etc...
good luck, and if anyone wants a copy of that article, let me know.
thanks.
rob
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From: "Derek Swingley" <fluffmasterflex@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: ZA-2
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 20:15:36 -0500
Anyone interested in buying this card? I have the maual and and the
breakout cable. The card still works fine but I just don't need it anymore.
$175 OBO.
From: Matt Edlhuber <edlhubermj18@mail.uww.edu>
Subject: Extra shows for BnP
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 20:24:06 -0500
I have a few extra shows here i'd like to get rid of...preference goes to
someone who wants to take it all....
Phish
8-1-98 Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (1x90m DAT)
Schoeps CMC6/MK41>SX-M2>DAP1
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Galactic
3-31-01 The Rave Underground - Milwaukee, WI (1x90m DAT)
Schoeps MK21>KC5>CMC6>V2>AD1000>DAP1 (FOB/DFC/ORTF)
Phish
8-1-98 Alpine Valley - East Troy, WI (2x74 SHN)
Schoeps CMC6/MK41>SX-M2>DAP1
DMB 12-5-00 (2x74 SHN)
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