DAT-heads Digest #997, Volume #5 Thu, 9 Aug 01 01:50:00 EDT Contents: ISO: Recent TOOL/King Crimson masters! (TaperB) ISO: Eric Clapton 7-24-01 (PHISHsDANK@aol.com) RE: XLR l/r (female) to 1/8' stereo male ("American-Digital") Re: volume envelopes in SF ("Steve Marshall") taping allowed for these bands? ("J. Van") extra dat for b+p (eric nelson) For sale:HHb cdr-800 ("John") Re: USB-2 (Wayne Brissette) MP-2 battery times (Bill Shaw) Custom Cables (Klay Anderson) M/S recording (randy@monkeybiz.Stanford.EDU) ISO: U2 Euro tapes ("Kerplunk!") RE: How to plug an equalizer? please help me out! (Berryman Cpl C R) ISO : someone... (BenHarperTrades@aol.com) FREE Built to Spill 8-26-00 early show DSBD CD Offer ("Andy Liu") Re: volume envelope,.. (Joe Rioux) FS: Monster cable rca-stereo mini (kmstraker@mindspring.com) DIDO - WANTED 6/25/01 at PNC Bank Arts Center,Holmdel,NJ (mr dave) FS:Neumann KM 140s ("Trey Woodruff") David Byrne (August West) Samplitude 2496 on-the-fly software resample ("Doug Nawrocki") Looking for Mark from the Wilmington Widespread Panic show (Joe Thierry) glenn tilbrook (Mike Hooker) DAN BERN ("Alf") A lesson for anti-taper artists ("Alf") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TaperB Subject: ISO: Recent TOOL/King Crimson masters! Reply-To: TaperB@ziplip.com Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 08:13:51 -0700 (PDT) Greetings Heads! I am currently looking for recent Tool/King Crimson shows. I am mainly looking to trade with other "big rig" tapers. (B&K, Schoeps, MBHO, etc.) I taped the opening night at Red Rocks on 8/3 with: MBHO 603A/KA200N's>MP-2>SBM-1>D100 - from 6th row, FOB. Both set are stellar quality! Right now I'm only looking for other 48k DAT clones. Thanks. -TaperB ------------------------------ From: PHISHsDANK@aol.com Subject: ISO: Eric Clapton 7-24-01 Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 11:14:12 EDT hey all, in search of the above show from chicago. I am sure someone got a pair of mics in. I have tons to trade.. db.etree.org/mikef thanks for the help -mike fischer ------------------------------ From: "American-Digital" Subject: RE: XLR l/r (female) to 1/8' stereo male Reply-To: "American-Digital" Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:17:56 -0400 We have this cable available in the 20 foot length. Plus a good selection of many other cables that DAT owners find extremely useful. Please check out our cable page at: http://www.american-digital.com/prodsite/category.asp?c=38 Thank You- Dan www.am-dig.com 888-USA-DATS > From: Boxcephus@aol.com > Subject: XLR l/r (female) to 1/8' stereo male > Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2001 14:24:50 EDT > > Can anyone suggest a good place for me to purchase a cable that is aprox > 15-20 feet, XLR l/r (females) to 1/8" stereo male. Thanks. ------------------------------ From: "Steve Marshall" Subject: Re: volume envelopes in SF Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:19:27 -0500 Jay Lyons wrote: > Hi Alan, > > > I use Sound Forge 4.0 and it allows you to adjust the volume of a > > selected range by shaping a line. The problem I have found is that this > > line cannot be raised over 100% or 0 dB, that is, it can only fade, not > > raise the volume in the envelope. Hence, SF calls the feature Graphic > > Fading. > > in SF load in a wave file and try going to the "process" > "volume" buttons > on your toolbar. From there you can get a +/= value on your needs. I prefer > this instead of what everyone else does with the "normalize" button,.. > works great. In SF5 (it may be an option in SF4 also - I can't check right now, I'm at work), the best way to do this is from the Graphic Fade window. There are 3 settings - 1x, 2x & 4x about 3/4 of the way down the window. 1x only lets you fade down. 2x & 4x let you fade up as well. Works great, especially since you can see the shape of the wave while you're adjusting the envelope. You can get much better results this way, as opposed to using the volume settings. Steve ------------------------------ From: "J. Van" Subject: taping allowed for these bands? Reply-To: "J. Van" Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:35:07 -0500 Anyone know the taping policies of the following : Rebecca Gates White Stripes HiM (ex- June of '44) American Analog Set They're all on tour presently and I was wondering whether they have given board access recently. john ------------------------------ From: eric nelson Subject: extra dat for b+p Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 12:38:35 -0400 I have an extra copy of the balck Mtn. Boys, 3.6.67 + 3.7.64 The Tangent Palo Alto. this is the same tape i offered up before, the person who got it never sent me a blank. There is about 2 hours of music on the tape, using a copy of the deadheads taping compendium I was able to pick out 4 or so shows. First person to respond who intends to send out a blank gets it. Eric ==================================================== NetZero Platinum Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 ------------------------------ From: "John" Subject: For sale:HHb cdr-800 Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:51:08 -0600 I have not used my HHb in about a year, for I switched to PC type burning. It is in great working order. I paid about $1300. Please e-mail me if you are interested. I have no idea what they go for now. Please remember that this is the model with the metal transport system not the cheaper more easily breakable plastic system. ttfn john have you visited http://www.folkwest.com/schedule1.htm ------------------------------ From: Wayne Brissette Subject: Re: USB-2 Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:50:15 -0500 >Sorry, wrong about USB 2, they broke the line on >"USB 2-Channel" to read "USB 2 >Channel" and I misread. So a mystery on how they >do THAT! > >Jeff I was about to be real impressed... The USB conference held earlier this year still had zippo real products with USB-2. In fact, unless someboday has fixed things over the last couple of months, there are still some holes in the standard that needed to be firmed up. Intel really wants USB-2 to compete with FireWire, but since the consumer digital camera marketplace has settled on FireWire, I don't think it's going to be able to. FireWire can still provide more bandwidth, and in the long run that is better for both digital music and digital video. However, Intel is very good at marketing, so who knows, next year I could be eating my words. Wayne -- "Nature can survive without man--in fact, that may be its salvation--but man cannot survive without nature." ---- Homero Aridjis ---- Music Trade Page: http://homepage.mac.com/wayneb/ ------------------------------ From: Bill Shaw Subject: MP-2 battery times Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 11:02:37 -0700 I take it you are talking about the SoundDevices, right? Anyway I have one for use with KM140's as well, and I love it! Alkalines (2xAA) will run the MP-2 for at least 5 hrs, probably more (with the all lights left off the whole time, of course). If you're using lithiums (which I haven't tried) I suppose you'd get even more life out of the thing... With the LED's on, I would imagine the battery life would be cut in half... I have my gains taped in place anyway, and only adjust levels with the SBM hope this helps, Bill RE: Anyone have good battery times for an MP-2? I run KM-140's, and wondered about lithium times (2xAA) vs attempting to run any of the recently discussed rechargeables. I was nervous that the MP-2 sucks so much juice that the rechargable might run out in less than 2hrs. Any experience? ------------------------------ From: Klay Anderson Subject: Custom Cables Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 12:15:37 -0600 Boxcephus@aol.com Subject: XLR l/r (female) to 1/8' stereo male Asked: > Can anyone suggest a good place for me to purchase a cable that is aprox 15-20 > feet, XLR l/r (females) to 1/8" stereo male. We can make this and just about any other custom cable; contact me via phone or email for a quote. Thanks! -- Regards, Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E. Klay Anderson Audio, Inc. http://www.klay.com 1.800.FOR.KLAY ------------------------------ From: randy@monkeybiz.Stanford.EDU Subject: M/S recording Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 12:24:35 -0700 (PDT) Anyone care to comment on the practical issues/time involved in taking an M/S encoded DAT and... (1) playing it back on your stereo (I assume this would be easy...just route the analog through an M/S decoder between the DAT and amp...) (2) converting it to traditional L/R stereo (on another DAT or perhaps CDR). Thanks in advance! BWT: I'll B+P CDRs of Dave Holland Quintet 4/27/00 Early Show (Sonics) and/or 4/28/00 Late Show (CCM4's) (on 1 80-min disc each set) to the first five folks to respond. ------------------------------ From: "Kerplunk!" Subject: ISO: U2 Euro tapes Reply-To: "Kerplunk!" Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 14:36:14 -0500 Im looking for U2 Euro recordings from Elevation Much to trade all the way around please e me for my list Thanx for the space, Michael in Mad City(the beta98 guy) ------------------------------ From: Berryman Cpl C R Subject: RE: How to plug an equalizer? please help me out! Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 21:32:49 +0300 There are several ways to do this. To use the equalizer with every source including your tuner you will need to use a source input and output on your receiver that has a monitor loop on it. Most receivers use "Tape 2" for this so you connect the output from tape to on the receiver to the input on the equalizer and then the output of the equalizer to the input "Tape Play" on the receiver and leave the receiver source set on Tape 2. This should still allow you to select the source that you desire to hear but should loop the output of the receiver through the equalizer. If you are not using a receiver but are using an amplifier / pre-amp setup then simply connect the equalizer between the pre-amp and the amplifier. Last of all if you desire to equalize only one source simply connect the equalizer between the source (tuner, tape deck, cd player,DAT,etc.)anything but a record player, and the receiver. Hope this helps....if you need clarification on anything I wrote here feel free to email me. Good luck, Chris >Hello everyone >Just a big shout to anyone who could help me plugging a recently-acquired >hifi equalizer on my amplifier, please help me out! There is an input and >an output obviously. Please let me know where i need to plug both of them >if you >can. >Thank you very much in advance >Francois ------------------------------ From: BenHarperTrades@aol.com Subject: ISO : someone... Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 15:40:22 EDT Hello "You". You contacted me on AOL (AIM) for a Ben Harper trade after I posted a message on the DAT Heads. You had the Ben Harper solo acoustic show recorded in 2001 in Claremont. Please contact me again, I lost your address after my computer crashed. My email : benharpertrades@aol.com Please. I thank you everyone. Francois ------------------------------ From: "Andy Liu" Subject: FREE Built to Spill 8-26-00 early show DSBD CD Offer Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 12:49:07 -0700 I got a great another killer offer for BTS at the Crocodile 8-26-00 DSBD (1cd)! This show features Calvin from the original Halo Benders (impromtu reunion) on the last four songs. The question to answer to receive this wonderful disk: What inning and what pitcher served up the HR to Mike Cameron to win the game against the Boston Red Sox in extra innings at Safeco Field last year (sorry no date, that would be giving too much away!)? First to reply to my dwonk@hotmail.com with OFFER in the subject line gets the disk! Go CAMY! GO M's! ANDY _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Joe Rioux Subject: Re: volume envelope,.. Reply-To: jrioux@mediaone.net Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 11:33:44 -0400 > From: Jay Lyons > Subject: volume envelope,.. > Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 09:14:11 -0400 > > Hi Alan, > > > I use Sound Forge 4.0 and it allows you to adjust the volume of a > > selected range by shaping a line. The problem I have found is that this > > line cannot be raised over 100% or 0 dB, that is, it can only fade, not > > raise the volume in the envelope. Hence, SF calls the feature Graphic > > Fading. > > in SF load in a wave file and try going to the "process" > "volume" buttons > on your toolbar. From there you can get a +/= value on your needs. I prefer > this instead of what everyone else does with the "normalize" button,.. > works great. I don't use SF, but from the description, wouldn't this also raise the volume of the noise floor by the same level? Joe ------------------------------ From: kmstraker@mindspring.com Subject: FS: Monster cable rca-stereo mini Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 17:06:51 -0400 I bought an rca to stereo mini cable from bestbuy to connect my mp2 to my sbm1. I used it once, then bought an xlr-rca cable because it locks in place. It is the Monster 400MKII cable. Costs 50.00 new. I'll take 40.00 and I'll throw in a 10" atlas t-bar that I don't need. Buyer pays shipping. ISO: Galactic 8-5-01 Asheville Music Zone. If anyone has a good copy of this let me know. I was in Atlanta with everyone else. ------------------------------ From: mr dave <> Subject: DIDO - WANTED 6/25/01 at PNC Bank Arts Center,Holmdel,NJ Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 16:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Looking for DIDO DAT, CD, Tape. Live 6/25/01 PNC Bank Arts Center,Holmdel,NJ. Thanks. dave. dave8x10.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Trey Woodruff" Subject: FS:Neumann KM 140s Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 19:19:58 -0500 I am selling my neumann km 100 bodies with the AK40 caps with the -10pad, looking to get 1400 obo Trey ------------------------------ From: August West Subject: David Byrne Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 17:59:43 -0700 (PDT) Two questions: 1) Any comments on taping David Byrne's recent tour? 2) Any idea how to capture and convert his online concert (http://WindowsMedia.com/previewv2/xpconcerts) from Windows media player into something usable like a .wav? Any comments appreciated. You can email me direct at acme_safes@yahoo.com or reply to the list. Thanks & Peace __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Doug Nawrocki" Subject: Samplitude 2496 on-the-fly software resample Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 21:36:48 -0400 Hey All, Anyone here have any experience with Samplitude 2496's ability to resample to 44.1 on-the-fly without the card being able to? I transferred the Phil Polaris show without any apparent anomalies. How's it compare to Sound Forge 5's anti-alias or Wavelab's highest setting? TIA... Peace, Doug __________________________________________ My Homepage http://www.supplicationjam.8k.com/ My CDR Trading List http://www.supplicationjam.8k.com/My%20CDR%20list.htm __________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: Joe Thierry Subject: Looking for Mark from the Wilmington Widespread Panic show Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 22:59:19 -0400 I'm trying to find a guy named Mark that patched out of me at the Wilmington and Pittsburgh Widespread Panic Shows this summer. I think he lives in PA somewhere. He was running a D8 in a small green camera bag. Mark if you're out there or if anyone knows this guy please get in touch. Thanks, Joe ------------------------------ From: Mike Hooker Subject: glenn tilbrook Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 01:13:55 -0400 hi, has anyone taped any recent glenn tilbrook acoustic apprearences? i was at the the mercury lounge in NY tonite and had an equipment failure, so no tape . thanks see my music trading page ( new URL): http://www.oe-pages.com/ARTS/Ballet/mikehooker have fun, Mike Hooker ______________ ------------------------------ From: "Alf" Subject: DAN BERN Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 07:21:18 +0200 THE NEXT BOB DYLAN? I was bit curious when yeaterday I prefer to listen a radio broadcast of Dan, instead to tune for another broadcast of Van Morrison, scheduled in same time. Well, I must admit : Dan can be really considered a next big thing of American music I recommend my dat friends to check his tour planning http://www.dbhq.com/tour.html Check if he comes near to your door it worth to go I don't know if he is anti-taper, so check it before Here follows what I found about him: ======== You've gotta hear this guy." People have been saying that all year, all over the country, as city by city, show by show, Dan Bern has rolled into town and turned everyone lucky enough to be in the room into a fervent convert. Bern's debut album Dan Bern arrived in stores March 1997. Based on the success of Dan Bern's continuous tour it seems word is getting around quickly. Bern has been playing to packed houses across the country -- playing several encores a night and frequently selling out of cds. Dan Bern's shows, and his album, tend to leave critics groping for superlatives. He moves between raucous humor, bitter social observation, and bleak despair, often within the same song -- in a way that invites comparisons with some of rock and roll's greats, but with a corrosive intelligence and a raw soulfulness that's all his own. Expect great things. "His live performances make true believers out of listeners who might only have been curious when they walked in the door." (San Francisco Bay Guardian) _____ Pick any term from the big bag of good adjectives - "witty," "irreverent," "comical," "insightful" - and solder it together with any term from the big bag of good adverbs-"frighteningly," "monumentally," "thrillingly," "deeply"-and you have the pretty good beginnings for an accurate description of the music of Dan Bern, without a doubt one of the most frighteningly witty, thrillingly irreverent, deeply comical, and monumentally insightful songwriters to strap on a guitar since rock music came of age and found itself thrust into its role as popular voice for American culture. And Dan's songs have always been steeped in the nation's pop culture, what with references in past songs to icons like Marilyn Monroe, Mother Teresa, Charles Manson and Tiger Woods, among others. If there is one thing his music has done above all others, it has shot to the heart of what it means to be a part of this hectic, fame-debased, information-overloaded world that we have created for ourselves. Dan's music allows us to see things that we have always seen, to feel and know things that we have always felt and known. James Thurber on hallucinogens, Elvis Costello minus the spectacles, Jack Kerouac in a van spinning out hundreds of perfect songs rather than bursts of Zen jazz on the road, Dan never ceases to challenge through his music even as he makes it appealing and full of joy. He's part Dada (purposefully subverting expectation), part troubadour (spitting out clever, street-smart riffs on life), part stand-up comedian (helping us to laugh at our own comedy of errors) and part punk (lyrically impudent and unfailingly authentic). But he is all human and his songs rarely fail to touch the heart and the brain with equal impact, taking the time in the interim to stop at every point in between. Dan placed innumerable great songs on his fine initial four albums, racking up critical hosannas virtually across the board while developing a rabid fan following on the back of an exhilarating, boundary-erasing live show, but New American Language may be his first truly incomparable and faultless recording. Leaving his folk roots choking in the dust storm kicked up by a powerful five-piece rock band, Dan uses the album to sort through the consciousness shift that accompanied the turn of centuries, to carve out an uncompromising path into the soul of the new American experience while also reaching out to encompass more of the world than he ever has before, all with an immaculate production and an instrumental depth that matches the deep reach of Dan's musings and observations. Stretching back and forth across the nation as if it were a canvas, he uses the full spectrum of America's soil to paint a lushly detailed, often heart-breaking portrait, taking in the highly commercialized Broadway of the "Thanksgiving Day Parade" with three-dimensional empathy, trying to hide out from the encroachments of life in the heartland, heading west to the burnt and broken landscapes of New Mexico, and hitting the "Alaska Highway," where he runs into Leonardo DiCaprio and Eminem, Britney Spears and Keith Richards. He crosses genre lines from tender folk-rock to full-on sonic outbursts to the rootsy bluegrass of "Honeydoo!," and he delves into emotional terrain, whether that of the Japanese protagonist of "Rice" or the Mafia or rednecks, that few songwriters have the ability let alone the temerity to tap with such understanding. New American Language imbues life among the earth-toned cathedrals of "Toledo" (Spain) and "a Budweiser, Budgetel, Bukowski kind of night" with the same tone of hope and beautifully resolved sense of acceptance. This is one language that everyone owes it to themselves to become fluent in. ___________ With the release of his 1997 self-titled debut, Iowa native Dan Bern became the latest, following the likes of John Prine, Elliot Murphy, Steve Forbert, Loudon Wainwright III, and numerous others, to wear the "new Dylan" mantle. With an acoustic guitar, a batch of sharp, witty, insightful songs, and a delivery reminiscent of the man himself, Bern left his home in the midwest for L.A., where he assaulted the local folk scene. He subsequently made his way to various clubs and festivals nationwide, where he garnered a great deal of notice and eventually caught the attention of Sony Records' Work Group subsidiary, with whom he inked a deal. Later in 1997, Work made available Dog Boy Van, his excellent 1996 indie release which was recorded prior to his signing with the label. The proper follow-up to Dan Bern, Fifty Eggs (produced by Ani DiFranco), was issued in March of 1998 while the independent two CD set Smartie Mine came out later the same year ________ DISCOGRAPHY 1993 Dan Bern 1998 Fifty Eggs 1999 Smartie Mine 2001 New American Language review of his debut album (1993 - four & half stars of AMG rate) Everyone knows that hype kills, and being touted as the next anything, especially Bob Dylan, is usually, for the most part, the kiss of death. So for those of you turned off by such things, we'll skip those kinds of superlatives, because this record should not be missed. In a genre that on the surface seems to be progressing, but in reality is becoming more and more stale every year, Dan Bern's take on folk music is refreshing to say the least. Bern doesn't treat the music with kid gloves, nor does he try to beautify or jazz it up. He simply attacks the music, much in the way Dylan did, from the solo acoustic "Jerusalem," to the punkish "Go to Sleep" or the spoken melody of "Estelle," which hearkens back to Dylan's own "Brownsville Girl." Lyrically, whether proclaiming himself the Messiah or merely the "king of the world," Bern's acerbic wit and surprising poignancy will pull you back time and time again. So don't listen to those anointing him with phrases like "the next Dylan" or "the best singer-songwriter in years"; just listen to Dan Bern's debut and see for yourself. ------------------------------ From: "Alf" Subject: A lesson for anti-taper artists Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 07:26:08 +0200 Thank to exist, DAVID!! > from http://www.crosbycpr.com/ > > Crosby, Jeff Pevar [PhilPhriend and Jazz is Dead], James Raymond > > Setlists - Jazz Cafe 24th, 25th > > 24th > Music is love, Morrison, Map, Homeward, Fish, Breathless > Gone Forever, Long Time Gone, Tamalpais, Katy Did, Eyes Too Blue > Kings Get Broken, Somebody Elses Town, Delta, Jerusalem, Deja Vu > > Just Like Gravity, 8 Miles High, Ohio > > 25th > Music Is Love, Tracks In The Dust, Map, Morrison, Tamalpais, Fish > Breathless, Gone Forever, Long Time Gone, Naked In The Rain > Katie Did, Eyes Too Blue, 8 Miles High, Dream For Him, Somebody Elses Town > Jerusalem, Deja Vu > Gravity, Almost Cut My Hair > (Complete with false start, when Croz intervened to stop a heavy-handed > security guard taking a girl's camera. Croz said that they were happy > for anyone to take photos and record their shows.) > Ohio ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. Problems or questions about a subscription should be addressed via these avenues and then if needed to dat-heads-owner@datheads.phish.net or postmaster@datheads.phish.net never the list itself You can submit a message for inclusion in the next digest via this address: Internet: dat-heads@datheads.phish.net Archives of DAT-Heads digests and related files are available on the DAT-Heads home page: http://www.solorb.com/dat-heads/ End of DAT-Heads Digest ******************************