DAT-heads Digest #1, Volume #6 Sat, 11 Aug 01 12:50:01 EDT Contents: New Mics ("Patrick Shatzer") radiohead grovel (a.patrizio@verizon.net) RE: More Power..!! ("Robert Leib") DPA 4060 Mics from Tapers section??????? (Berryman Cpl C R) FS: Panasonic SV3800 ("Paul Jones") RE: Subject: dat2wav help (Berryman Cpl C R) Mitsui CDRs .49 cents each. ("Art Munson") David Byrne (August West) ISO: ABB 8/7/01 and 8/8/01 Chicago theatre DAT! (Eric Eckberg) Fostex D5 Head Hour Count? ("Ken Kleber") +LiVE+ shows ("Pink Floyd") Tesla/J.Cantrell/E.Sardinas anyone? (BlackCrowes@gmx.net) Anyone taping Great White@HOB Anaheim,CA august 17th? (BlackCrowes@gmx.net) Different forms of Spam (Beast914@aol.com) Taped Tool 08.10.01 Berkeley 1st night (Jason Roth) Patchwork Quilt ("Bob Silver") ISO: Live tapes of Wake The Dead ("Joe Totoraitis") newbie questions ("paully") ISO 8-10-2001 Journey Mountain View (Matthew Giller) Telluride2001-Bela,KellerWilliams&Comotion ("Mooney Monteilh") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Patrick Shatzer" Subject: New Mics Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 19:09:31 Hello, I just lost my CSB's, which I was pretty happy with. Is there any Under $500 mics that anyone can recommend that are an upgrade from CSB's? please respond to my email -patrick fuzzhack@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: a.patrizio@verizon.net Subject: radiohead grovel Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:22:12 -0400 hi guys, sorry for the shameless grovel, but I'm fairly desperate to get a DAT of radiohead @ Montreal August 5. I should be taping the upcoming Boston and 2 Jersey Citys. I wanted to skip taping the montreal 'cause I just wanted to chill out and enjoy the music. I have a *ton* of Pink Floyd and several other Radiohead DAUDs to offer (but nothing from the 2001 tour). The Montreal is a must-have, but I'd love to get earlier shows from this tour, as well. And, of course, I'm always interested in low gen Floyd. E-mail me for a list. many thanks, Anthony ===================================== "Stop this day and night with me and you shall possess the origin of all poems." ------------------------------ From: "Robert Leib" Subject: RE: More Power..!! Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 13:00:14 -0700 I bought my D3 from a guy on ebay, and he had taken the regular battery that comes with the D3, hollowed out the battery shell, and wired a homemade AA battery pack to it. I'm sure someone on this list could better explain how to do this, I'm no electrician, so I'm just happy to have this set-up. It works great. I've taped 2 hour shows with the light on, and never have had a problem with the power running out. Hope this helps! -Robert Leib rleib@microsoft.com ------------------------------ From: Berryman Cpl C R Subject: DPA 4060 Mics from Tapers section??????? Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 22:23:24 +0300 I am considering purchasing a set of Core Sound HEB's. I am looking for opinions from owners and I have previously corresponded with Len; but a non-biased view is what I'm searching for (Len, I do though value your opinion). I was wondering if any DPA 4060 owners (Core's or not); have ever attempted taping from a distance i.e. Tapers section as opposed to FOB. I have done some research on the mics and from what I have read they are purportedly EXTREMELY accurate. I am looking to use them on a 15ft mic stand in a Jecklin / Schneider Disk type arrangement. What I am most concerned with is in the diffuse soundfield of a tapers section, if being omni they will pick up too much reflected vs. direct sound and therefore detract from the enjoyment of the recording. The reason I am considering them is my hypothesis that in being so accurate and uncolored at recording the sound at any given point they should sound at least as good as the concert sounds in person from the same location. I am hoping someone has taped with these from that distance and can share with me the success or failure they have had. I'd hate to through out a grand and not be able to use these except in stealth situations. Two other non-related quick questions to throw out for discussion 1. Does any one know if an SBM-1 mod'ed or not can be made to output 48 kHz instead of 44.1? 2. Does anyone know if the psycho-acoustic compression of minidisk negatively affects the psycho-acoustic clues present in a binaural recording that effect directionality? (I am not looking for a DAT vs. Minidisk discussion I realize DAT blows MD away just wondering for extreme stealth considerations) THANKS TO ALL, CHRIS P.S. If this post is repeated I tried to send it earlier but I have waited two digests and it has not appeared so please don't flame me. =) ------------------------------ From: "Paul Jones" Subject: FS: Panasonic SV3800 Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 21:36:14 I hate to do this, but getting out of credit card debt is more important than spinning tapes right now... Just back from the Oades where they installed brand new heads and transport, this unit has not even been taken out of the box (AKA, zero hours on the new heads). A+ bill of health. Absolutely BABIED in the 4 years that I have had it, this deck has never even seen a 90m tape and has one full year left on its 5-year extended warranty. $550 and I will cover UPS 3-day shipping. Thanks. -Paul _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Berryman Cpl C R Subject: RE: Subject: dat2wav help Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 22:03:06 +0300 Although I do not know much about internal dat2wav conversion....my guess is that it is an old ASPI driver and the latest drivers can be downloaded from adaptec.com. I have a similar problem with my CD-R drive several years ago when they were "new". Good Luck, Chris ------------------------------ From: "Art Munson" Subject: Mitsui CDRs .49 cents each. Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:17:27 -0700 >From: "American-Digital" >Subject: RE: SALE: MITSUI CDR74 - 55 Cents Each. >Reply-To: "American-Digital" >Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:54:02 -0400 > >There are several vendors that sell merchandise >relevant to people who read this newsgroup. It >seems like just this one vendor has no problem >placing blatant advertising on this newsgroup. Well for folks who have been around long enough to remember, I have been selling products on this newsgroup since 1989. Long before American-Digital was around! It's been my experience that folks don't mind a good deal, which I try to offer and I try very hard to keep the posts to a minimum. >To get a better price from a company that respects >this Digest as a NEWSGROUP please visit our >Mitsui page at: << blatant American-Digital ad removed >> So.... As a special offer to DatHeads, go to www.tape.com/datheads.html for: 10 pack Logo Mitsui CDR74 in Tyvek sleeves $4.90 each. Every order up to 3 lbs only $5.00 UPS Ground shipping. Every order up to 5 lbs only $6.00 UPS Ground shipping. BTW you will earn an extra 2.5 cents for every dollar spent, which can be applied to future orders. To try and spread this around there will be a limit of 200 CDRs (20 of the 10 packs) per customer. Sale ends 8/17/01. Thanks! Art ------------------------------ From: August West Subject: David Byrne Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:02:06 -0700 (PDT) So I fu#!&ed-up taping the Phx David Byrne show. Must have accidentially hit the -20 db switch off (its in such a bad place on the DTR80P) and the tape is nothing but distortion. (I know, I know, don't say it) Looking for any copies of the recent tour. Have an excellent copy of Byrne, Phx, 7/9/94 for trade. Will also take one B&P of the 94 show as a WOB tax for the blatant grovel. P.S: This show is a must see when it comes to your town. Great mix of Byrne solo and Talking Heads songs. Excellent band, great sound. Peace, August. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Eric Eckberg Subject: ISO: ABB 8/7/01 and 8/8/01 Chicago theatre DAT! Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 18:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Hello fellow friends in DAT land I know you are all out there! I can't believe not a single person has mailed me yet about a *CLEAN* DAT copy yet. They made all of us regular tapers up front put our mic stands around head high. I know your out there, there were plenty of you in the middle or back of the main floor with stands 15' high! Hope to talk to you soon! I taped Tues, but security made all of us up front put our mic stands down to around head level. If you can help me out for both shows *CLEAN* it will be much appreciated. You can check my list out here: http://homestead.juno.com/shmurg/Shmurgs.html Thanks in advance Eric __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Ken Kleber" Subject: Fostex D5 Head Hour Count? Reply-To: waytogohome@angelfire.com Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 22:04:51 -0500 Hi All: Is it possible to find out how many hours are on the heads of a Fostex D5? Thanks in advance. --- Ken My tapelist can be found at www.angelfire.com/il2/kenkleber Get 250 color business cards for FREE! http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ ------------------------------ From: "Pink Floyd" Subject: +LiVE+ shows Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 23:03:36 -0500 All, Looking for +LiVE+ shows from the recent tour and any other shows. I have TONS of LiVE to trade and some extremely rare stuff. Brian _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: BlackCrowes@gmx.net Subject: Tesla/J.Cantrell/E.Sardinas anyone? Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 08:37:47 +0200 (MEST) Hi all, now that the Tesla tour has ended, has anyone taped any of the recent US shows?? Have quite a few shows for trade. Also looking for recent Jerry Cantrell shows Anyone seriously thinking about taping Eric Sardinas on his upcoming tour with Steve Vai He again does an extensive world tour with Steve, much as last year.Go out and tape him, this man is bluesrock at its best!Need to go stealth though, he became concerned when I told him that I taped his Munich show last year but was really nice when I told him to send him a copy and will not release it and try to make money out of it. http://www.ericsardinas.com/update.html Best, Karsten -- Aufgepasst - jetzt viele 1&1 New WebHosting Pakete ohne Einrichtungsgebuehr + 1 Monat Grundgebuehrbefreiung! http://puretec.de/index.html?ac=OM.PU.PU003K00736T0492a ------------------------------ From: BlackCrowes@gmx.net Subject: Anyone taping Great White@HOB Anaheim,CA august 17th? Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 08:52:08 +0200 (MEST) Hi there, anyone up for taping Great White WITH MARK KENDALL AND SEAN MCNABB next weekend at the House of Blues Anaheim,CA?Love to hear that one with the two former GW members back on track.But beware:they are no longer taper friendly..I found it out the hard way..:-) Have lots of GW shows (among others) for trade, several masters from 1999, 2000 and 2001. Great White@HOB Anaheim, CA august 17th 2001 Thanks! Best from Munich, Germany Karsten -- Aufgepasst - jetzt viele 1&1 New WebHosting Pakete ohne Einrichtungsgebuehr + 1 Monat Grundgebuehrbefreiung! http://puretec.de/index.html?ac=OM.PU.PU003K00736T0492a ------------------------------ From: Beast914@aol.com Subject: Different forms of Spam Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 06:28:12 EDT I have to disagree with Dan in his scolding of another vendor's advertising on the list. As long as its done succinctly, tactfully and occasionally, I personally have no issue at all with anyone posting relevant products to sell. My Internet connection is extremely slow (26.4!) so getting information through one list rather than site browsing for me is actually helpful! This is a newsgroup? Well, a price reduction is news. A new product is news. Perpetual friction between vendors on this list isn't. D ------------------------------ From: Jason Roth Subject: Taped Tool 08.10.01 Berkeley 1st night Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 03:31:34 -0700 Hey all, just wanted to let you know I got the Berkeley show tonight. Ran SS DSM-6S/L>PACL3B(170)>M1 tonight. I was dead center on the floor...sounds very very nice. Crowd was a little wild first few songs but during Undertow everyone settled down. I got Crimson as well. I will trade only for other Tool shows from 2001 only...and I will only trade with the tapers. And high quality stuff only please, thanks =). Also if anyone else taped tonights show...e-mail me...I saw a few guys in the bathroom, -Jason ------------------------------ From: "Bob Silver" Subject: Patchwork Quilt Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 08:21:05 -0400 Does anybody know were to find this song of Warrens...what show was it performed at? Does anybody have it? **************Patchwork Quilt**************** Lyrics: Warren Haynes Music: Warren Haynes Written by Warren Haynes in memory of Jerry Garcia, and played with Phil & Friends. I never knew you But then who really did? If you were at all like me You managed to keep yourself hid A patchwork quilt of a life Memories embroidered On your soul So please forgive me For putting you in my song But the spirit she moves me In fact she pushes me along It's a patchwork quilt of a life Can't stop the river Just let it roll We were at Jones Beach When we got the word Saddest sound that I ever heard The bluest note that nobody could play Ravens sang with us that night on the stage Tears of sadness, tears of rage But nobody spoke, we all felt old And in the way So walk beside me Or above me, I don't know These days it sure seems I'm lost where ever I go God, how could you, I heard someone say And what do we do with our lives now anyway? Now that our north star can no longer be found But there's a banjo moon in a tie-dyed sky Hippies dance and babies cry Church bells ring as a silver-haired angel look down And the blood of his music runs through the veins of our guitars Bright lights, Dark Star I never knew you But then who really did If you were at all like me You managed to keep yourself hid Peace, Boca Bob Silver ~~ ) ~~~~ )> ~~~~ )> ~~ http://personal.lig.bellsouth.net/lig/b/o/bocabob/ http://www.thephilzone.com/ ~~ ) ~~~~ )> ~~~~ )> ~~ Help raise money without spending a single penny: http://www.thekidsaidssite.com AIDS - help our children http://www.therainforestsite.com save the rain forest http://www.thehungersite.com feed the poorest http://www.thebreastcancersite.com donate free mammograms http://www.thechildsurvivalsite.com Vitamin A for children ~~ ) ~~~~ )> ~~~~ )> ~~ ********************************************* ------------------------------ From: "Joe Totoraitis" Subject: ISO: Live tapes of Wake The Dead Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 10:46:16 -0500 SSIA, their album is great and I'd love to get my hands on some live recordings. DAT perferred but CD-R is okay too. o----------------------------o-----------------------------o Joe Totoraitis -o- rockumal@hotmail.com Tapelist: http://www.geocities.com/rockumal/tapetracker.html "It's that commitmentless feeling. It's like being addicted to drugs or nicotine, for that matter. You get so used to it. You jones for it." - Keller Williams o----------------------------o-----------------------------o _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "paully" Subject: newbie questions Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 11:47:14 -0400 Howdy folks, just recently got a D8 and have a few questions: 1) What is the preferred media for taping? DDS tapes? I hear audio grade is much better quality, I dont mind paying for quality. I would love to get specific brands, 60m? 90m? I've seen 60m that were 94 min. and i've seen 60m that were 2 hours of tapes? I'm confused. 2) What are the most common board patches? (in bars and clubs) I assume bands in bars and clubs use the board that'a already there but what are the most common connections? I have 1/4", RCA and plan on getting a XLR(m) to 1/8" cable. 3) From what I can tell I would use my line in for sbd and if I patch into someonelses rig (via a 7-pin I/O) I dont need to touch my record level at all? 4) Power: For now I plan on using the AA batteries and then in a couple months or so invest in a battery pack. How long will the D8 average with the AA? Regular duracell or energizer. I've seen different stuff on the times but I would like to get feedback from people who use the AA. I've heard from 2-4 hours. Thanks for the time, I tape my first show 8/17 so I just want it to come out decent so any other input or tips is more than welcome :) peace and zambi :) paully ------------------------------ From: Matthew Giller Subject: ISO 8-10-2001 Journey Mountain View Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 08:55:31 -0700 (PDT) The subject says it all. I was there with my wife and didn't tape. She had a blast though. Thanks for the space! Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Mooney Monteilh" Subject: Telluride2001-Bela,KellerWilliams&Comotion Reply-To: "Mooney Monteilh" Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2001 11:13:26 -0500 Hey Now, I'm looking for copies(DATs or CDs) of Bela, Keller and Comotion from Telluride BGF. I've got most of the other sets from Telluride and a few from RockyGrass!!! If you have them and would like to set up a trade, get in touch and I'll send a list. Thanks for the bandwidth, NFA, Mooney BWT: I'll take a few B&P for the Sam Bush Band from Telluride2001(AKGs and clean, crisp FOBs) DATs or CDs. ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. Problems or questions about a subscription should be addressed via these avenues and then if needed to dat-heads-owner@datheads.phish.net or postmaster@datheads.phish.net never the list itself You can submit a message for inclusion in the next digest via this address: Internet: dat-heads@datheads.phish.net Archives of DAT-Heads digests and related files are available on the DAT-Heads home page: http://www.solorb.com/dat-heads/ End of DAT-Heads Digest ******************************