DAT-heads Digest #8, Volume #6 Wed, 15 Aug 01 22:50:01 EDT Contents: Re: Junior Brown ("Dan Witt") re: Sonosax outboard power? (acffhmorst) Taper info sought for MMW 3/29/98 Masonic Aud ("Jeff Ishaq") NEED: U2 radio-broadcast DAT taper for this weekend ("Bas Ruesink") What lubricant is best for 1/4" reel tape? (JH) Red Rocks 1996 Phish (ZAndersson@aol.com) The Run - ABB/Phil - The Second Offer (Delano) ISO - taper in Blacksburg/VA Tech ("Dave Forbis") D3 line-in question ("David Maley") Questions about Audiowerk 2 soundcard ("T M") WANTED-FOGARTY/GARCIA/WEIR ETC (Robert Walsh) Re: Samplitude 2496 on-the-fly software resample ("Doug Nawrocki") ISO CSN 8/14/01 Rosemont Theatre (david cohen) Extra's for B+P (Keith Forman) Need help w/Keb Mo show... (Sean Cartwright) Fuji DDS 90's @ Officemax ("Dave Morrison") A bunch of ISO's (Darkstarracing@aol.com) How to use a DATport with RealPlayer (i.e. how to force 44.1 KHz sampling rate for USB audio under Windows 2000) ("Dan Winkler") ISO Clapton - 8/11/01 Oakland (Susan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dan Witt" Subject: Re: Junior Brown Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:06:51 -0500 Last year when I taped him, I was told handheld devices only, no mics on stands. From: "Pat K" Subject: Does Juniors Brown allow Taping?? Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 00:24:10 -0400 Anyone know?? ------------------------------ From: acffhmorst Subject: re: Sonosax outboard power? Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 01:59:18 -0500 Craig, Why not try a regular 12 volt Sealed Lead Acid Battery from your local battery supplier (SLA)? They can probably set you up with a charger too. I have a 12 volt system from Ecocharge for my tape deck, and when the batteries finally failed (after 5 years of use) I replaced them with batteries from my local place and it was perfect (and much less costly). Get a "smart charger" so you can leave it plugged in and it won't keep charging the battery, and you can even get multiple cells of varying sizes and see how long they will run with your mic setup. My 7.2 Ampere-Hour batteries cost $20-$25 each, the store with the more industrial location was less expensive than the retail one, but the retail one had all kinds of cool batteries and chargers on display- I went there first to see what I needed, then once I knew what that was I made my purchase from the wholesale-counter type place. Bye the way, these things are heavy as lead, but they're worth their weight in music! I have a very similar preamp, the Beyer MV100, which calls for 24V dc input. . .I have yet to make the adaptor so I can use my two 12V cells, but look forward to eliminating the 9v's except for lightweight / stealth requirements. . . the Beyer has the same chassis as the Sonosax, but a gain switch (+20, +40, or +60 dB) instead of the Sonosax's knobs. Same 9V sleds too. Good luck, and it would be useful if you could post results of your running times with various sized SLA's to the list, so others can benefit from your testing. -tom -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- I have a sonosax which I love but running thru all the damned 9 volts is killing me. Wondering if anyone knew of any outboard power units for the sx-m2. It has a 12 volt DC in jack on the side with the xlr ins. any help is appreciated. Craig -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: "Jeff Ishaq" Subject: Taper info sought for MMW 3/29/98 Masonic Aud Reply-To: Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 09:13:27 -0400 Hey folks. I've collected two sources for this show: Source #1: B&K 4061 -> D100 (taped by Ray Peck), in balcony across from the hanging speakers. Source #2: "Schoeps CCM4 > Sonosax SX-M2" Source #1 is flawless, and I have archived it onto SHN files and seeded it to etree months ago. In giving the Source #2, the Schoeps source, a critical listen, I have noticed a few instances of the left channel dropping out. I am interested to know if anybody has any leads on the taper for the Schoeps source, for a few points: 1) More source info (location of mics -- balcony?, stand height, etc) 2) Do these flaws exist on the master DAT? 3) If yes to #2, perhaps the taper would like my fixed version (or the other source) The remainder of this post contains my fix-list, and the tracking to make sense of the times, for the Schoeps source: d1t03 07:54.258 -> 07:55.054 (0.796 sec) left channel partial d/o in crowd noise, fixed by x-paste d1t04 00:01.721 -> 00:02.875 (1.153 sec) left channel d/o in song, fixed by x-paste 00:03.088 -> 00:03.160 (0.071 sec) left channel d/o in song, fixed by x-paste d1t06 00:30.956 -> 00:30.957 (0.001 sec) pop in right channel, removed d1t10 01:30.364 -> 01:30.766 (0.401 sec) left channel partial d/o in song, fixed by x-paste 01:33.058 -> 01:33.332 (0.274 sec) left channel partial d/o in song, fixed by x-paste 02:32.175 -> 02:33.571 (1.395 sec) left channel partial d/o in song, fixed by x-paste Disc One: [68:27] 1. [08:27] Jam > 2. [09:02] Start/Stop > 3. [08:10] Sequel, 4. [10:44] Latin Shuffle > 5. [04:20] Bass Solo, 6. [06:02] Just Like I Pictured It 7. [05:55] Coconut Boogaloo > 8. [09:36] Disrobe > 9. [06:11] No Ke Ano Ahiah, Disc 2: [21:10] 1. [05:02] Night Marchers > 2. [07:25] Wigglys Way Encore: 3. [08:43] Chinoiserie Have a good one, -Jeff Ishaq ------------------------------ From: "Bas Ruesink" Subject: NEED: U2 radio-broadcast DAT taper for this weekend Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 16:22:50 +0200 From u2.com Definitive’ U2 Radio Documentary to Air in UK This weekend BBC Radio Two in the UK begin the first of a two-part exclusive documentary, The U2 Story. Presenter Simon Mayo travelled to Cologne for extended interviews with Edge, Adam and Larry and to Berlin to talk with Bono. Word has it that the two hour documentary is one of the most in-depth and definitive programmes the band have participated in. The programmes have been put together by a BBC Northern Ireland production team, including Mike Edgar and Stuart Bailie, a former NME journalist who has written about U2 for many years. Also interviewed for the programmes, which are interspersed with music from 20 years of U2, are Paul McGuinness, producer Brian Eno, Live Aid organiser Bob Geldof and many other colleagues and friends of the band. The programmes go out on August 18th and August 25th at 8pm. More information as we get it. ========= Who is willing to tape this to DAT and put to cdr digitally. (or lend out the DAT)?? Please contact me private. Lots of U2 to offer, also Elevation masters. thanks bas _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: JH Subject: What lubricant is best for 1/4" reel tape? Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:30:13 -0600 Hi, I'm just diving in to a batch of old reels from garage sales, basements, and my own family archives. It has become apparent that a lubricant will be needed to quiet the SQEEEEEAK on the guides and heads, and make the transfers possible. What lube will not harm the tape or my MX5050 Otari or my old Wollensak? Thanks, Jonathan ------------------------------ From: ZAndersson@aol.com Subject: Red Rocks 1996 Phish Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:42:02 EDT While doing some listening last week, I noticed my previously clean 8/5/96 & 8/6/96 shows were filled with diginoise and dropouts. I was cloning them for a friend. Anyone out there want to do a trade or B&P for these? Lots to trade. Peace, Zach Andersson BWT: ABB 8-11-01 Ogden Thtre. 1x90m I'll take 2. ------------------------------ From: Delano Subject: The Run - ABB/Phil - The Second Offer Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 12:03:17 -0400 I taped the ABB/Phil run with excellent results. Unfortunately, I had some problems with my 8/2/01 dat; upon ejecting, the tape tore and although I spliced the tape, there now appears to be nothing on the dat. If someone recorded the ABB 8/2/01 Virginia Beach set (FOB please), I would love to get a copy from you. Here is what I have so far to offer for trade: (all shows 2 cdr's each) ABB 8/3/01 Raleigh, NC Af:D,CD MTG SMS2000/M210> SX-M2>SBM1>D8 (110 degree ortf, slightly right of dfc, row Q, seat 20) 8/4/01 Charlotte, NC Af:D,CD MTG SMS2000/M210> SX-M2>SBM1>D8 (100 degree ortf, slightly right of dfc, row T, seat 12) (the first second or two is cut) 8/5/01 Hotlanta, GA. Af:D,CD MTG SMS2000/M210> SX-M2>SBM1>D8 (w/ tracks, taped DFC, row R, seat 29, ortf 110 degrees) All recordings are excellent FOB's while the 8/5/01 is the best of the 3 recordings. Phil 8/2/01 Va Beach Af:D,CD MTG SMS2000/M210> SX-M2>SBM1>D8 (80 degree ortf, in front of left stack, Section 102, row F, seat 51) 8/3/01 Raleigh, NC Af:D,CD MTG SMS2000/M210> SX-M2>SBM1>D8 (110 degree ortf, slightly right of dfc, row Q, seat 20) 8/4/01 Charlotte, NC Af:D,CD MTG SMS2000/M210> SX-M2>SBM1>D8 (100 degree ortf, slightly right of dfc, row T, seat 12) Long story, short version - I was late setting up so, unfortunately, my Phil 8/5 is only a partial. After listening to these, one can easily understand why the Oade's say: "Simply stated these (Microtech Gefell 2000) are the best Microphones available for recording PA systems !" I can't wait until I get a V2 and AD2K+. Take Care, Delano http://www.geocities.com/digitaldelano/ ------------------------------ From: "Dave Forbis" Subject: ISO - taper in Blacksburg/VA Tech Reply-To: forbis@texas.net Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:21:40 -0500 Hi - I'm looking for a taper in Blacksburg, VA (any Tech students out there?). If you could, please email me offline. Thanks, Dave _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "David Maley" Subject: D3 line-in question Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 12:44:29 -0400 Does anybody know if the Sony D3 line-in suffers from the same problems as the D7/D8?? ie. the line input will overload when the levels are set below a certain point. I run MBHO's into a MP-2 pre-amp, and when I had borrowed a buddies D7 a little while back my tape was filled w/ distortion/noise. I was informed that this was a known issue w/ the D7/D8 decks, and wanted to see if anybody knew if the D3 suffered from this same problem??? Thanks in advance. Peace, Dave :)-~ ------------------------------ From: "T M" Subject: Questions about Audiowerk 2 soundcard Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 12:23:26 -0500 I'm posting this for a friends who is having trouble posting to the list. Please reply to schwigiddy@earthlink.net He's looking into picking up a used Audiowerk 2 soundcard He's going to put it into a PC running Windows Millennium OS. Please share with him your experience using the card with this OS good, bad or neutral. Here's his post. am thinking of buying this soundcard from a friend >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.soundtech.co.uk/emagic/audiow2.htm any reason not to buy this one...he owes me 150$ says he will give me this card & 50$ for what he owes me, not doubting his technical skills , just would like some other input, just remember this is the emagic2 not the emagic8 card.... I don't do a lot, I might if I get this but, still not as much as some, thanx for your time..... Rick.......... ------------------------------ From: Robert Walsh Subject: WANTED-FOGARTY/GARCIA/WEIR ETC Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:00:50 -0800 Does anyone have a decent copy of the "In Concert against Aids" performance of Jerry and Bobby backing up John Fogarty at Oakland Colliseum? Also interested in Donna the Buffalo, Taj Mahall and Hot Tuna. Thanks and Namaste, RW ------------------------------ From: "Doug Nawrocki" Subject: Re: Samplitude 2496 on-the-fly software resample Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:54:36 -0400 I know what you're saying but how does this compare to the other software resampling? I just find it hard to believe Samplitude would add this feature into their software if they knew it was very inferior. I saw a post on another list where someone stated they used Samplitude's on-the-fly software resample multitudes of times without incident. Also, I must have a very slow processor and serious lack of ram but if I resample (48>44.1) with Sound Forge 5 and use the anti-alias filter it takes me about half an hour to do a 60m DAT's worth of tunes... Peace, Doug __________________________________________ My Homepage http://www.supplicationjam.8k.com/ My CDR Trading List http://www.supplicationjam.8k.com/My%20CDR%20list.htm __________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: david cohen Subject: ISO CSN 8/14/01 Rosemont Theatre Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:32:54 -0500 SSIA looking for this show either DAT or CDR (MD in a pinch), preferably by an experienced recordist. More than you can ever imagine for trade:) Dave Sunshine Dave Dream, Executive Producer Dead Serious Wednesdays 11pm - 2am WORT 89.9 FM People's Republic of Madison, Wisconsin Avoid all needle drugs. the only dope worth shooting is Nixon. Abbie Hoffman ------------------------------ From: Keith Forman Subject: Extra's for B+P Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:49:45 -0400 Hey Ya'll, Subject says it all. I have the following extras for B+P...I would need the package to be out ASAP! I'm looking for 2 x 60M and 2 x 90M for the following: 8/14/01-Peir Six Pavillion Ratdog, Keller Williams, and Rusted Root--2 x 60M Source: Neumann KM 184>Beyer MV-100>Apogee AD 500>D-100 and 7/31/01-Merriweather Post Phil Lesh & Friends Source: NAK 300/CP-1>Grahem Patten DMIC-20>D-8 I'll take the first person who can get me the 4 tapes (Sony or Maxell DDS) out ASAP. Keith in Maryland....soon returning to Rhode Island ___________________________________________ "Some folks would be happy just to have ONE dream come true"--Hunter/Garcia =============================== <<>> http://phishhook.yi.org/lists/Kfor5311 or http://www.phishhook.com/lists/Kfor5311 <> http://thecolonel.homestead.com/index.html ___________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: Sean Cartwright Subject: Need help w/Keb Mo show... Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:47:35 -0400 Hey People, Just got a great sounding (and I'm fairly certain, SBD) Keb Mo show from someone who really knows little about the world we DAT(Digi)-Heads live in (ie- no date/venue/gear info). So if anyone can help, I'd be grateful. Clues are that what description I did get was that it was taped in a club in the North East and when the show starts, he mentions that it's nice to be playing in a place of higher education and that he got his schooling from the streets but maybe in his next life he'll get some of his schooling in the classroom. So, can anyone help?? BWT- Keb Mo (currently) unknown show. I can only do this on CD because I do not have a digital soundcard. I would also send anyone CDs who would make me a digital>digital copy on DAT, I would spread that too. My only exception is if I find out this was a show he has as a release but I don't believe that is the case. Peace, Sean ------------------------------ From: "Dave Morrison" Subject: Fuji DDS 90's @ Officemax Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:55:38 -0400 If your deck can handle 90m tapes, you might want to check your local OfficeMax. They were closing out their Fuji DDS 90m tapes for $5.00 per twin pack. At $2.50 per tape, it might be worth looking for. If nothing else, I sure got a bunch of backup tapes ;) dave ------------------------------ From: Darkstarracing@aol.com Subject: A bunch of ISO's Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 20:55:32 EDT Sorry for the grovel....it's been a long, broke summer. Can anyone help me with any of the following: U2 Chicago 2001 Clapton Chicago 7/24/01 REM any recent FMs and the Cologne show Radiohead Chicago 8/1/01 and recent FMs Trey alpine 7/01 Any recent Lucinda Williams sbds/fms/clean auds 2001 Knopfler sbds/fms/clean auds Roxy Music 2001 Los Lobos 8/8/01 Ravinia I have tons to trade.....check out my list: http://hometown.aol.com/darkstarracing/myhomepage/collection.html Peace Chris ------------------------------ From: "Dan Winkler" Subject: How to use a DATport with RealPlayer (i.e. how to force 44.1 KHz sampling rate for USB audio under Windows 2000) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:01:38 -0400 I use an Opcode DATport, which is a USB device that takes digital audio from the computer and sends it to the coax digital in on a DAT deck or in my case Meridian speakers. It can do audio in too. I've used it successfully with Windows 98, Windows 2000, and Mac OS X, although the configuration program that comes with it only works on Windows 98. You can configure the DATport on a Windows 98 machine and then use it on other machines. I got mine used on ebay for $75. They're not made new anymore. Windows 2000 uses the built in USB audio driver with the DATport. I've been using Media Jukebox to play MP3s and it seems to do a good job of keeping a stream of zeroes going to the DATport when no sound is playing so you don't lose the start of MP3s due to USB startup latency. Under Windows 98, the DATport software has an option to do this for you but on Windows 2000 you have to rely on the application to do it and it seems to me that Media Jukebox is doing it (but I'm not sure). I've had no problems playing 44.1 KHz MP3s, which is what I configured my DATport to expect. But when I'd try to use RealPlayer, typically with audio sources sampled at lower rates than 44.1 KHz, I could never get any sound out of my digital speakers, presumably because of sample rate problems. I don't know if the source of the problem was in the DATport or in the speakers, but basically I wanted to force the audio coming from the PC to be 44.1 KHz. As far as I can tell, there's no way to do this using the Windows 2000 user interface. However, I found a trick. If I start playing a 44.1 KHz MP3 using Media Jukebox, I'll hear the MP3. Then I can then start playing a Realplayer clip and I'll hear both sounds mixed together. I can then hit pause in Media Jukebox and I'll continue to hear the Realplayer track. Evidently, when you mix two sources together, it forces Windows to use the higher sampling rate which is 44.1 KHz in this case. So my way of forcing Windows 2000 to convert audio to 44.1 KHz before sending it to the DATport is to first start a 44.1 KHz MP3 playing and then rely on the mixer to use that higher sampling rate even when I pause the MP3. This might be working because Media Jukebox continues sending zeroes even when the MP3 is paused but I'm just guessing about that. ------------------------------ From: Susan Subject: ISO Clapton - 8/11/01 Oakland Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 19:47:21 -0700 Did anyone tape Clapton in Oakland on Saturday, August 11th? thanks Susan ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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