DAT-heads Digest #9, Volume #6 Thu, 16 Aug 01 17:50:01 EDT Contents: ISO: Lunatec V2 ("James H. Pollock") Blacksburg Tapers (jopeter1) RE: What lubricant is best for 1/4" reel tape? ("Art Munson") Roxy Music (Toby Germano) Taping Los Lobos (Mark Mayhle) Taped Tool 8-15-01 (Edward Davis) dvd transfers (Les Gordon) "Ratdog, Keller, & Phil" B&P Closed! (Keith Forman) ISO Tool-Seattle ("Gary Johnson") Dylan trade? ("Scott Summers") Simon and Garfunkel 11.11.69 venue ?? (eric nelson) ISO Trey 7-22-01 (Thomas A Small) What lubricant is best for 1/4" reel tape? (Rich Mays) What lubricant is best for 1/4" reel tape? (Rich Mays) Tapers needed; More Cowboy Junkies dates announced for TN, TX, FL and Northeast ("Candace Horgan") RE: What lubricant is best for 1/4" reel tape? ("matt Sohn") Squeaky Reel-To-Reel Tapes (Klay Anderson) BRAD taping SEATTLE 9/1, 9/2, 9/3 ("Michael Hanson") Midiman C03 for sale ("Sam Hain") New Sony DGP problems, ISOs and a WOB ("Rus T") 7 pin Cables ("Frank Rinaldi") Re: New Sony DGP problems, ISOs and a WOB ("Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.") Tangerine Dream US Tour Dates ("DRider") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "James H. Pollock" Subject: ISO: Lunatec V2 Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 23:04:21 -0400 Hey All, Is anyone out there sitting on a Lunatec V2 that they aren't using and would like to sell? If so, please drop me a line.....I may be interested :^) Thanks, jhp ------------------------------ From: jopeter1 Subject: Blacksburg Tapers Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 00:00:05 -0400 Hey- I have recording equipment, but no mikes. Give me an email. I live in University Terrace by the way. Peace, John Peters jopeter1@vt.edu or bonzohoh@aol.com ------------------------------ From: "Art Munson" Subject: RE: What lubricant is best for 1/4" reel tape? Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:20:51 -0700 > From: JH > Subject: What lubricant is best for 1/4" reel tape? > Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 10:30:13 -0600 > > Hi, > I'm just diving in to a batch of old reels from garage sales, basements, > and my own family archives. It has become apparent that a lubricant will > be needed to quiet the SQEEEEEAK on the guides and heads, and make the > transfers possible. What lube will not harm the tape or my > MX5050 Otari or > my old Wollensak? > Thanks, > Jonathan Yikes, I wouldn't be using any lubricant! If my memory serves me correct. They are squealing do to the fact that the binder was changed many years and the magnetic coating is separating from the backing. There is a way to "bake" the tapes (yes in an oven) to keep the tapes together long enough to get the material off of it. Takes a lot of cleaning of the guides and heads as you are are transferring. I'm sure there are folks here who have more specific details. I haven't had to do it in awhile so my memory is a bit fuzzy on it. Art ------------------------------ From: TGermano@webtv.net (Toby Germano) Subject: Roxy Music Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:51:53 -0700 (PDT) I'm looking to replace my verson of "First Kiss". Does anyone have this? Thanks, Toby Toby Germano tkz@davidbowie.com http://community.webtv.net/TGermano/GERMANOWARFARE ------------------------------ From: Mark Mayhle Subject: Taping Los Lobos Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 03:55:50 -0500 (CDT) Assuming the BTAT info is still current and that I can get a board patch from Louie, what do I need to get it into my D100? (BTAT says "a single XLR or coax patch" is offered.) If the BTAT is not correct, please let me know more current info on Los Lobos's taping policy. Thanks much. -- Mark Mayhle mark@mayhle.com ------------------------------ From: Edward Davis Subject: Taped Tool 8-15-01 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 02:06:59 -0700 Just got back from taping Tool in San Diego. The tape is very close and pretty good. there was a lot of bass and even though I used the roll off it is still a little bassy not bad though. However, there is a dumb screamer bitch that screams throughout the show. I am not trying to discourage trades it is a great tape that was made in the second row on the stacks so the sound is extremely close and clear. However, I don't want any surprises. My setup was M1>DPA(4061)mod>Att(-20 db). Let me know if you are interested in a trade. I am looking for recent tool as well as the shows I mentioned yesterday. Later, Ed -- "You're not going crazy Arthur. You're going sane in a crazy world." The Tick Want To Trade DATs? Come to my sight at: www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/5771 ------------------------------ From: Les Gordon Subject: dvd transfers Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 05:31:05 -0400 (EDT) hello everyone, if you have any vhs tapes of very special things recorded on them, i now can transfer them to dvd. each dvd holds up to 2hrs of time. and quality is absolutely perfect. also these dvds play in every dvd player and dvd rom drive in your computer. they are all recorded region zero. if you have any questions email me. thanks les. BLANK CDR MEDIA & SUPPLIES http://www.cdrecordable.com questions regarding: custom color cdr printing product information & pricing, phone orders, (877)289-2377 email, lesg@cd-recordable.com CDR TRADE LIST http://www.geocities.com/mistercdr ------------------------------ From: Keith Forman Subject: "Ratdog, Keller, & Phil" B&P Closed! Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 06:22:14 -0400 SSIA...thanks. Keith ___________________________________________ "Some folks would be happy just to have ONE dream come true"--Hunter/Garcia =============================== <<>> http://phishhook.yi.org/lists/Kfor5311 or http://www.phishhook.com/lists/Kfor5311 <> http://thecolonel.homestead.com/index.html ___________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "Gary Johnson" Subject: ISO Tool-Seattle Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 04:21:12 -0700 Did any Seattle tapers get the Tool show from the Paramount on August 6, 2001?(I believe that this is the correct date). Looking for a student of mine. -Gary _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "Scott Summers" Subject: Dylan trade? Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:37:49 I have extra CDRs of the following Dylan shows: Sioux Falls, SD - 4/1/00 (2 CDRs) Denver, CO - 4-6-00 (2 CDRs) Both are straight from DAT. Very nice sounding shows. I am looking for an even CDR trade for other Dylan, Springsteen, etc. -- Scott scottsumm@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: eric nelson Subject: Simon and Garfunkel 11.11.69 venue ?? Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:38:59 -0400 I have a copy of Simon and Garfunkel's 11.11.69 show from Oxford, Ohio. It is from thier first tour with a full band and I think they say from the stage its the third show of the tour. My question is whether anyone knows what venue this show was performed in?? It is a sbd on one cd with lots of interesting non-album tunes - if anyone would like to get a copy drop me a line. Thanks, Eric ==================================================== NetZero Platinum Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 ------------------------------ From: Thomas A Small Subject: ISO Trey 7-22-01 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:40:52 -0400 Hey Guys, I am looking for the trey show on 7-22-01 @ Deer Creek, or 7-17-01 @ Redrocks. I have SPAC, Jones Beach, PNC, Merriweather and also Philly and 7-12-01 on CD-r. I can provide scource info on request, all are flawless and sound killer. Thanks guys! hope to hear from you peace tom tsmall420@juno.com ------------------------------ From: Rich Mays Subject: What lubricant is best for 1/4" reel tape? Reply-To: richmays@home.com Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:59:43 +0000 > It has become apparent that a lubricant will > be needed to quiet the SQEEEEEAK on the guides and heads, and make the > transfers possible. What lube will not harm the tape or my MX5050 Otari or > my old Wollensak? You did not say if the tape base (Scotch 111) is acetate or polyester (Scotch 203 type). If the tape is Ampex 400 series, the problem is the backcoating, and the only solution is to heat them in a convection over at a particular temp for a particular time (obviously I don't recall the particulars). This gives you a window of about a week to make the transfer. Contact Quantegy (Ampex after name change) for details . Otherwise, you are likely out of luck, as lube will destroy information and make a mess. For ultimate quiet, however, try WD40. Rich ------------------------------ From: Rich Mays Subject: What lubricant is best for 1/4" reel tape? Reply-To: richmays@home.com Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 10:00:07 +0000 > It has become apparent that a lubricant will > be needed to quiet the SQEEEEEAK on the guides and heads, and make the > transfers possible. What lube will not harm the tape or my MX5050 Otari or > my old Wollensak? You did not say if the tape base is acetate (Scotch 111) or polyester (Scotch 203 type). If the tape is Ampex 400 series, the problem is the backcoating, and the only solution is to heat them in a convection over at a particular temp for a particular time (obviously I don't recall the particulars). This gives you a window of about a week to make the transfer. Contact Quantegy (Ampex after name change) for details . Otherwise, you are likely out of luck, as lube will destroy information and make a mess. For ultimate quiet, however, try WD40. Rich ------------------------------ From: "Candace Horgan" Subject: Tapers needed; More Cowboy Junkies dates announced for TN, TX, FL and Northeast Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:11:56 -0600 Hey all. I am looking for tapers to volunteer to tape these shows. Tapers will be put on the guest list in exchange for sending me a copy of the show. Taping is audience only; FOB taping is allowed, as are mic stands. If you are interested, shoot me an email and include a description of your gear. Hope to hear from everyone soon. Cheers Candace Sept 11: Tampa Theatre Tampa, FL Sept 13: Brick City Music Hall, Gainesville, FL Sept 18: One World Theatre, Austin, TX Sept 19: Caravan of Dreams, Ft. Worth, TX Sept 21: Belcourt Theatre, Nashville, TN Sept 23: Recher Theatre, Towson, MD Sept 25: Toad's Place, New Haven, CT Sept 26: Lupo's Heartbreak Hotel, Providence, RI Sept 28: Colonial Theater, Keene, NH Sept 29: Hunter Performing Arts Center, MA ------------------------------ From: "matt Sohn" Subject: RE: What lubricant is best for 1/4" reel tape? Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 09:29:42 -0500 It sounds like your tapes are suffering from "sticky shed syndrome". What you need to do is to bake the tapes. This problem occurs with tapes manufactured between the mid-70s to the mid-80s and has to do with a reaction between the oxide formulation and the backing material. The tapes will shed all over the heads and the wraps are literally sticking to each other. The solution is to bake the tape in a convection oven that can provide consistent even heat for approximately 8 hours at a temperature between 125 and 132 degrees (don't let the temp go over 135). This should make the tape playable for a period of time (a week to a month) before it reverts back to its "sticky" state. Try this on one and see if it works. This is only for polyester backed tapes. Do NOT bake acetate tapes! it will ruin them. If you arent sure if it is acetate, hold the reel up to a light, if you can see light through the tape (translucent), it's acetate, if not (opaque), it's polyester. also, acetate tape will break cleanly, where polyester will stretch. hope this helps, -mahatma >Hi, I>'m just diving in to a batch of old reels from garage sales, basements, >and my own family archives. It has become apparent that a lubricant will >be needed to quiet the SQEEEEEAK on the guides and heads, and make >the >transfers possible. What lube will not harm the tape or my MX5050 Otari my old Wollensak? >Thanks, >Jonathan ------------------------------ From: Klay Anderson Subject: Squeaky Reel-To-Reel Tapes Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:27:06 -0600 JH Subject: What lubricant is best for 1/4" reel tape? Told us: > I'm just diving in to a batch of old reels from garage sales, basements, and > my own family archives. It has become apparent that a lubricant will be > needed to quiet the SQEEEEEAK on the guides and heads, and make the transfers > possible. What lube will not harm the tape or my MX5050 Otari or my old > Wollensak? No no no no no no. What is happening here is that the binder and lubricant have broken down over time. This happens with most tapes, some more than others depending on brand, storage conditions and age. One cannot simply spray "WD40" and have it go away. These tapes in order to become playable must be baked in a specific and controlled manner to temporarily restore them and allow them to be played maybe once or twice. I have many articles on how to do this; a good start is here: http://www.josephson.com/bake_tape.html Thanks! -- Regards, Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E. Klay Anderson Audio, Inc. http://www.klay.com 1.800.FOR.KLAY ------------------------------ From: "Michael Hanson" Subject: BRAD taping SEATTLE 9/1, 9/2, 9/3 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:32:33 -0700 Hey all, Is anyone in the Seattle area taping Brad at the Breakroom Sept. 1, 2, 3? This is one of Pearl Jam guitarist Stone Gossard's side projects. Lead singer is Shawn Smith (Satchel, Pigeonhed). --- Mike Hanson ------------------------------ From: "Sam Hain" Subject: Midiman C03 for sale Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:57:16 -0400 Mint condition with manual and power supply but not original box. Toslink, Coax and AES/EBU (xlr) inputs and outputs. Will pass through DD and DTS signals. Strips SCMS! Warning! I have found that the Tascam DA20 does not work well with this unit. Attempting to send a AES/EBU signal to the Tascam via this unit, or attempting to strip SCMS when sending the Tascam a signal causes unpredicatable results. The only thing that is predicatable is that your music is not recorded. I have heard, however, that this box works fine with most other DAT decks (as others on DAT heads can attest). Asking $90 plus $10 shipping, worldwide. Thanks. Art _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "Rus T" Subject: New Sony DGP problems, ISOs and a WOB Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:30:42 -0400 Hi DAT-Folks, A couple things for ya'll today: New Sony DGP tapes: I was in Oregon this weekend for String Cheese's Hornings Hideout when I ran into a problem I haven't noticed in quite sometime. During the first set on the first day, I went to check on my rig and noticed that my deck (a Sony D100) had stopped recording. Frantically, I re-started the deck and it began recording again, but stopped in the next few minutes. There was another deck patched out of the optical digi that had no problems, so I know the issue is isolated to either my mini-xlr cable connecting the zefiro inbox or the d100 itself. At setbreak I switched tapes and had no problems with the second set. On Saturday, I had no problems with the first set but during the second set the same behavior occurred. Fortunately for me I had no problems for the rest of the festival. Now I used to have these same symptoms any time I used Maxell HS4/90s so naturally I stopped using those tapes. Since then, I switched to Sony DGP90s and I've never had a problem until now (over a year with no problems). Recently I bought a box of ten and I got the new Sonys (black exterior box and new Shell design) and in the sets that failed I was using the new Sonys... However, some of the sets that my deck didn't fail on were also taped with the new Sonys... my question is, has anyone had any bad luck with the new Sony DGP90s in a d100/M1? Additionally, I unpacked all of the tapes at home before hoping on a plane for Oregon in an effort to conserve battery power... This was the first time I've ever done that, so I'm wondering if that could have been the reason two of the sets failed (i.e - after the tapes were unpacked, they sat around long enough to "stick" together making the d100 have to work extra hard to run... in two of the sets the tape had tightened too much for the d100 to record). If anybody can think of any other reason why my deck might just arbitrarily stop recording I'd love to hear it. ISOs - I'm hoping to find a few shows as long as I'm posting... If you have any or all of the below, I'd love to setup a trade with you... Drop me an email and we can work something out... I have 1000+ hours of Dead, Phish, SCI, including 100+ masters from all over the country (mostly east coast). Phil & Friends 11/14/99 Phil & Friends 4/11/00 Allman Brothers Band 6/19/98 Allman Brothers Band 8/21/98 Allman Brothers Band 9/19/98 Grateful Dead 6/13/93 Grateful Dead 6/6/92 Thanks a bunch for the space. As a WOB I'll take 5 or so for a CDR b+p of SCI 7/20/01 or 7/22/01. AKG C1000s->inbox->d100 from the t.s. Peace! Rusty _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "Frank Rinaldi" Subject: 7 pin Cables Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 14:03:47 -0700 Hi Folks - Since we have received LOTS of inquiring calls and emails over the past few months regarding the Sony 7-Pin Cables (and lack thereof in the US), I thought I would pass along a friendly message that we do have a limited number in stock once again. These are the Pro Digital Modified RK-DA10P In/Out cables with the REAL Sony connector. http://www.cascademedia.net/cgi-bin/cmedia/prodig.html Thanks for the B/W and have a great day. Frank Cascade Media, LLC For All Your Digital Recording Needs Portland, Oregon 503-234-4294 888-336-4643 503-232-5874- fax frank@cascademedia.net www.cascademedia.net ------------------------------ From: "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." Subject: Re: New Sony DGP problems, ISOs and a WOB Reply-To: Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:18:06 -0500 (CDT) On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Rus T wrote: > Hi DAT-Folks, > > A couple things for ya'll today: > [SNIP complaint--see original] FWIW, I've been using the New Sony's for as long as they've been out in my M1 with no problems. As an aside, I've rarely ever unpacked a tape at all (unless a B&P'er requested it). I really doubt it has anything to do with the tapes (I don't have problems with Maxells either). It may indicate that your deck needs servicing. The transport mechanism may be sticking or something. I had this problem on a Sharp deck and it turned out to be that the lubricant on the transport mechanism had gummed up to the point that it could barely keep the tape in proper contact. The slightest tension change, etc. would cause it to unload and quit recording. A good cleaning and relubrication took care of the problem. -- Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr. wayne@hoxnet.com http://www.hoxnet.com PGP Key ID 138BCEE1 ------------------------------ From: "DRider" Subject: Tangerine Dream US Tour Dates Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:43:06 -0400 Tangerine Dream US tour dates PS: "YES" indicates a confirmed date. Oct 13th Boynton Beach, FL Orbit NOT YET Oct 14th St. Petersburg, FL Janus Landing NOT YET Oct 16th Atlanta,GA Variety Playhouse YES Oct 19th New York City BB King Blues Club NOT YET Oct 20th Philadelphia, PA Theatre of Living Arts YES Oct 21st Uncasville, CT Mohegan Sun YES Oct 23rd Boston, MA Scullers Jazz Club YES Oct 24th Buffalo, NY The Trail NOT YET Oct 25th Alexandria, VA Birchmere NOT YET Oct 26th Rochester, NY Water St. Music Hall NOT YET Oct 27th Pittsburgh, PA Rosebud NOT YET Oct 29th Cincinnati, OH Bogart's NOT YET Oct 30th Cleveland, OH The Odeon NOT YET Nov 01st Detroit, MI Second City NOT YET Nov 02nd Chicago, IL House of Blues NOT YET Nov 03rd Milwaukee, WI Riverside Theatre NOT YET Nov 04th Minneapolis, MN First Avenue NOT YET Nov 06th Denver, CO Paramount NOT YET Nov 08th San Francisco, CA Fillmore NOT YET Nov 09th Ventura, CA Ventura Theatre NOT YET Nov 10th Anaheim, CA House of Blues YES Nov 11th Los Angeles, CA House of Blues YES Nov 14th Portland, OR Aladdin YES Nov 15th Seattle, WA Showbox YES ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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