DAT-heads Digest #24
Contents:
extra DATs to trade for balnks CDR ("Damon Ritter")
Ratdog 7/10/01 (augwest)
re: D8 and CO3 SCMS Problem (Martin Amdur)
Inbox (Adam Smith)
illegal sales of bootleg site closed down ("Dan Greenberg")
beware of noise reduction (Paul Loeber)
Neumann 184 v.140 (Rich Mays)
Taped World Music... (Matthew Thayer)
Tony Furtado ("Candace Horgan")
P.S. illegal sales of bootlegs site closed down ("Dan Greenberg")
(was) RE: Cool Edit Pro vs. Sound Forge (Gordon Gidluck)
Re: joining WAVs (Gordon Gidluck)
Re: joining WAV files (Paulo Vieira)
ISO: KDTU with Lenny Kravitz 5-6-01 Tipitinas late night ("Jacob Jordan")
joining wavs ("Jamie Lutch")
Roland UA-30 USB - subtle dropouts on digital transfers (Jesse Lackey)
neumann skm140 ("scott charles")
From: "Damon Ritter" <jkstrw@nh.ultranet.com>
Subject: extra DATs to trade for balnks CDR
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:37:11 -0400
I have a box of ten Dead DATs and a box of 10 non-dead DATs that I would
like to trade for some blank Mitsuis. If you are interested please email me
for the details.
Damon
...I don't believe in taxes, especially bandwidth taxes...
From: augwest <augwest@telepath.com>
Subject: Ratdog 7/10/01
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:40:30 -0500
Hola!
Still ISO of RatDog at Riverport 7/10/01....road construction caused us
to be late. We missed the first 30 -45 min.
Thanks,
Jeff
OKC
From: Martin Amdur <gmst@sympatico.ca>
Subject: re: D8 and CO3 SCMS Problem
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:36:31 -0400
I had a similar yet different problem. I worte about this before but no
one answered. I ran a D3 out of my CO3 and selected no SCMS and got a
recording with emphasis.
Wierd hunh?
Martin
"I hooked up one D8 to the TOSLink input of the CO3 and set the SCMS
mode to 'None'. I connected the TOSLink output to the input of the other
D8.
I tried to clone from a master DAT (SCMS 11) with this arrangement, but
the
recording D8 would not unpause with the selected SCMS mode set to "none"
on
the CO3. I
tried Master and 1st Gen modes on the CO3, but same result. The
recording D8
would not unpause in record mode.
The only way I could get it to record was if I set the CO3 SCMS mode to
pass-through."
If you fear I'll lose my spirit
Like a drunkard's wasted wine
Don't you even think about it
I'm feelin' fine
Roky Erickson
From: Adam Smith <adaml@lanset.com>
Subject: Inbox
Reply-To: adaml@lanset.com
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 13:05:29 -0700
Wow, judging from all the responses I received I must be one of the few
people who can get more than 2-3 hours of battery life while using the
inbox with a 9v. As I said in my previous post I swap them out every 6-7
hours. That's just my preference. This is the time the battery is
activated in the unit not the length of the show. I also write this time
on the batt and then figure in time between use and load test it. I've
never had the low batt indicator come on during a show. After 6-7 hours
these are used for band practices or situations where you can back up
when the batt indicator lights. Come on folks this unit only pulls 50mA.
I'm not sure what the voltage must drop to or how long the unit will
operate properly while the low batt led is on. Perhaps Len M could shed
some light on all of this.
Adam
From: "Dan Greenberg" <letitgro@warwick.net>
Subject: illegal sales of bootleg site closed down
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:36:25 -0400
Sometime last week somebody posted about the
following site selling bootlegs:
http://www.dowco.com/jgwilson/index.html
I not only wrote to that jgwilson person, but to the hostmaster
@dowco.com. I just received the following response from
the hostmaster:
The account has been closed and will not be hosted on dowco.com.
Mike Leeson
Wahoo! The good guys win! To all others who may have also written,
good work!
-Dan Greenberg-
From: Paul Loeber <paulparrot@neo.rr.com>
Subject: beware of noise reduction
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:18:37 -0400
Concerning the recent post about noise reduction in CoolEdit,
SoundForge, and the like:
There have been lots of enjoyable recordings ruined by people not
knowing what they are doing with processing tools. To make it worse, the
people who don't know what they are doing with noise reduction tools,
parametric EQ, filters, and so forth--these people don't know that they
don't know what they are doing.
But for what it's worth, you are liable to mess up the sound of whatever
recording you are fooling with. Professionals often wreck things that
they put on CDs--you should not make the same mistakes that they do.
Leave your original tape alone. It is impossible to take out noise
without messing with the music, period. And if you use a notch filter,
other frequencies will be damaged too. The best thing to do is pretend
that these tools are not even in your programs. They should not be used.
If someone wants to fool with a CDR of it later to make it sound right
on his own stereo, then he can use his tone controls. But that's just
playback, and no irreparable harm is done.
From: Rich Mays <richmays@home.com>
Subject: Neumann 184 v.140
Reply-To: richmays@home.com
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 17:44:51 +0000
> The 184's are like the 140's without the removable stages,
> right?
The 184s are a little brighter and don't have the
"guts" of the 140. Subtle differences in
magnitude, but definitely different.
> looking at:
> neumann 184's (X-Y in hat)(is X-Y the crossed?)
Real X-Y (crossed at 90 degrees) can sound rather
monophonic at a distance. Hypercardioids at 110
degrees gives more channel separation. Otherwise,
DIN (20cm separation between capsules) or NOS
(30cm spacing) works better with cardioids. In my opinion.
Rich
From: Matthew Thayer <mattt317@yahoo.com>
Subject: Taped World Music...
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 15:00:42 -0700 (PDT)
1. Nels Cline Singers
2. from Mali Mamadou Diabate - solo Kora
3. Ramblin' Jack Elliott
4. gospel legends The Holmes Brothers
5. Tejano music pioneer Santiago Jimenez, Jr
All performed at an outdoor festival in San Francisco,
CA, Sunday 7/36/01. email if interested in a trade.
Thank You to Ian Brennan for once again bringing
awesome live music to the Bay Area!!!
If anyone recorded Peaches and Bardo Pond,
would like to hear from you, I had to leave too
early..
Cheers, Matt
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From: "Candace Horgan" <candace@spacewrangler.com>
Subject: Tony Furtado
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 16:31:02 -0600
Taping OK, board patches OK, though he doesn't have his own soundguy, so if
the venue says no it might be difficult to persuade them otherwise.
Cheers
Candace
From: "Dan Greenberg" <letitgro@warwick.net>
Subject: P.S. illegal sales of bootlegs site closed down
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:07:18 -0400
I guess I spoke to soon, as I just received this email
from the hostmaster of dowco.com:
"Thank you for informing us of this issue. The site has been
reinstated until we receive clarification from our counsel."
Mike Leeson
This is the site I'm referring to:
http://www.dowco.com/jgwilson/index.html
The following is what I had written to the hostmaster:
"This guy is selling illegal bootleg recordings!"
Don't know if it would help, but perhaps a few others
can write to the hostmaster. The email addy is:
hostmaster@dowco.com
-Dan Greenberg-
From: Gordon Gidluck <gidluck@swbell.net>
Subject: (was) RE: Cool Edit Pro vs. Sound Forge
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:21:03 -0500
Gary,
A further comment on the 2gb limit. This is due to the design of wav
files. The counters in the WAV header are 32-bit signed integer values.
I don't see how or why NT would be different with respect to this.
Samplitude 5.9 will support up to 2 billion stereo samples (or about 10
hours at 48kHz). This is a new feature. The way that they do this is by
having their HDP data structure manage multiple WAV files slightly
smaller than 2gb each.
For anyone out there who may be interested... version 6 is about to be
released and is a free upgrade to purchasers of 5.9 I am not a dealer
for SEKD or Magix, I just use and like their software. If you go to
www.magix.com you can download a 90 day demo of SAMP Version 6, but you
have to register.
Gordon
>
> From: "Gary Davis" <gdavis@loop.com>
> Subject: Cool Edit Pro vs. Sound Forge
> Reply-to: gdavis@loop.com
> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 14:08:04 -0700
>
> Yes, I would recommend Cool Edit Pro very highly but since I've
> never used SF, I can't say CEP is "better". CEP is optimized,
> however, to do most disk functions as fast as possible.
>
> The 2GB limitation is bascially a Windows '98 issue. Windows NT
> allows 4GB files. Not sure about Windows XT/2000/etc.
From: Gordon Gidluck <gidluck@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: joining WAVs
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:49:36 -0500
>
> From: "Gary: Anglo-Saxon word for 'spear'" <gary@blandest.demon.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: joining WAVs
> Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 08:05:05 +0100 (BST)
>
> >(HELP! I don't know of any joining program. I have to cut/paste each wave
> >into one file, which is very time-consuming.) a joining software. This
>
> www.geffers.demon.co.uk has a program on it somewhere called Addawav that
> will do this.
Hello D>AtheA>Ds:
If anyone is interested in doing some batch processing in
Win95/98/ME/NT/2000 I have a program which joins WAV files using a
scripting language. I just converted it to work under Windows as a
32-bit application, so it now has support for long filenames.
I originally released a 16-bit version for DOS about 2 years ago. I have
since lowered the price to $10 with the release of the Windows version.
It is a good deal for anyone wishing to join files in batch. I have used
it on literally thousands of files, and it works. It can add spacing,
fix wav headers, and some other stuff. More info is at my web pages.
The link is http://www.shoptheozarks.com/GGM/wavscript.html
BTW, if anyone is interested in doing this in Linux let me know -- I
would like to hear from you.
Gordon Gidluck
From: Paulo Vieira <mezzanine@softhome.net>
Subject: Re: joining WAV files
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 04:02:31 +0100
> From: JH <kc7fys@pro-ns.net>
> Subject: Levels. RMS values are the key, IMO.
> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 08:41:56 -0600
>
> A CDR that you receive that has low levels is another issue.
> First rip the audio using Exact Audio Copy in secure mode, then
> join the .wav files using (HELP! I don't know of any joining
> program. I have to cut/paste each wave into one file, which is
> very time-consuming.) a joining software.
CoolEditPro can merge 2 or more .wav files: "File>Open Append" (make sure
to select the .wav files on the correct order). This function can be very
handy to fix those CDRs that were burned TAO *trembles* or even CDRs
whose tracks weren't properly broken on the CD sector boundaries (which
will cause small ticks between tracks). I think many of us ignored this on
our first DAT>CDR transfers. CEP will create cuesheets on the points where
the several .wav files were merged together so you zoom in directly to the
place you'll want. Other than CEP I know of a small shareware program
called AddAWave. EAC can also create one big wave file from the audio
tracks while DAEing ("Action>Copy Image..."), so I think you're missing
something here...
CEP: http://www.syntrillium.com/
AddAWave: http://www.geffers.demon.co.uk/
-Paulo
From: "Jacob Jordan" <jordanjacob@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO: KDTU with Lenny Kravitz 5-6-01 Tipitinas late night
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 23:41:31 -0400
Looking for Karl Denson's Tiny Universe Horns with Lenny Kravitz guesting.
Was at the show but came late from Galactic and didn't tape. Supposed to get
the second set, but trader on the other end doesn't seem to be coming
through. I have shows from this year and last and can send my list.
THanks for the spa e,
Jacob
BWT: Will do 3 B&Ps any show off my list.
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From: "Jamie Lutch" <reconstruction@thegrid.net>
Subject: joining wavs
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 21:18:30 -0700
shntool can do it for wavs or shns, and works under win2k (where addawav
doesnt):
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dankseeds/files/SHNTOOL_Stuff/
does a bunch of other cool stuff too, like analyzing wavs and shns for
sector boundary issues, . Make sure you get doshere.zip as well, great
utility for command line software like shntool.
-JL
From: Jesse Lackey <jesse@celestialaudio.com>
Subject: Roland UA-30 USB - subtle dropouts on digital transfers
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 01:18:22 -0400
Hi all,
I just got a UA-30, am using it with Windows 2000 sp2, and doing a bit-for-bit
compare of multiple recordings from the same DAT tape (done digitally) yields
mismatches. Consistently I'm getting 1920 byte dropouts. This happens with two
different tapes, using both Soundforge 4.5 XP and cool edit pro LE (which
shipped with the box). It happens within the first few seconds - doesn't take
long to get a dropout. (They are inaudible but provably present)
Has anyone out there done bit for bit compares of digital transfers from the
UA-30? I suppose it is conceivable that it is the DAT deck... I'll try another
deck tomorrow. As well as fiddling with the recording options (# buffers, size
of buffers) in cool edit & soundforge. But I don't have much hope.
This is very very disappointing! Otherwise it seems like a great little device.
Any windows 2000 configuration tips?
The laptop is a PII 400 w/128Mb. This is such a low-bandwidth, low-cpu
operation that I should be able to encode mpegs while doing the transfer. I
miss the days of the zefiro za-1, DOS, and a 486-100. Was totally reliable....
tho $1100 for a 3gb harddrive back then kinda hurt. :)
Advice?
Comments?
Thanks in advance.
Jesse
From: "scott charles" <scochar@hotmail.com>
Subject: neumann skm140
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 12:43:17
anyone know the length of the active cables that come with this set between
the capsule and the preamp body?
thanks
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