DAT-heads Digest #26, Volume #6 Thu, 30 Aug 01 15:50:01 EDT Contents: Poratable DAT sales in Canada ? (Mike P) Extra DATs for trade/bnp (Delano) Delta card/ CEPro Question ("lee bittner") ISO: The Gourds Summer Tour 2001 (JHudson199@aol.com) alt-rock DATs available for b&p ("pwk") Laptop Recording Info ("NashPhil") right angle XLR???? ("Nick Georges") iso:tapers for Shellac dates Italy/Switzerland/Germany ("geoff nicholson") RE: Pro Digital is great ("Larry Narachi") (Art Munson) Re: right angle XLR???? (L_Sean_Kennedy) Sony DTC-690 DAT deck for sale (Mark Mayhle) Re: Upgrade rant (Eugene Hu) Neumann active cable lengths (Alex Prestin) DAT > PC Capture Software?? ("Steve Spott") RE: Zoltrix Nightingale soundcard (Chris) Re: anybody have a unix "find peak" (cook@eklektix.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike P Subject: Poratable DAT sales in Canada ? Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Forgive me if this has been asked before, but I looked all through the list archive adn FAQ, but haven't found an answer. I've been taping on MD for over a year now, and I'm looking into upgrading to a portable DAT unit. The problem is that I live in Toronto, and haven't been able to find any DAT dealers in Canada. All dealers I've found are in the US, and with exchange, duties and taxes, any unit is well over $1000 CDN. I'm looking for an decent entry level DAT, something like a PCM-M1, TCD-D8 or TCD-D100. Does anybody have any suggestions where I could possibly get one without paying an arm and a leg ? Thanks for any help. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Delano Subject: Extra DATs for trade/bnp Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:16:27 -0400 I have the following Rush dats for trade or bnp. (Please only Sony or labelled Maxell dats only!) Everything under 120 minutes is on a 60m, otherwise it is on a 90m. Rush 12/05/74 All NYC, NY - Electric Ladyland FM:?,D A 60 "Rush Tour", first North American tour; NYC WQIV FM; Opened for: Sky King, Kiss, The Kidds, The Tubes, Aerosmith end of "Need Some Love" is cut; NO: Drum Solo, Best I Can, What You're Doing, "Rush Hour" 11/20/78 Most Tucson, AZ - Tucson Community S:Rm,?,D A 90 "Tour of the Hemispheres" 44k; 02/14/80 All St. Louis, MO - Kiel Auditorium S:?,CD,D A/A+ 72 "Permanent Waves tour" 44k; bootleg CD "LA VILLA STRANGIATIO;" cuts in Cygnus X-1 and Hemispheres 09/22/83 All NYC, NY - Radio City Music Hall A:?,D A- 112 Pre GRACE UNDER PRESSURE Tour Opening Band: Marillion, "One likes to believe in the freedom of 'baseball'" 44k 01/30/92 All Oakland, CA - Oakland-Alameda S:?,D U n/a ROLL THE BONES Tour rec'd as 1/28/92 (either 1/29 or 1/30/92 (played both nights at Oakland); Cuts off at 2 hours; Primus opened 05/07/94 All Toronto, CAN - Mapleleaf Stadium S:D A+ 120 48k; bootleg CD " Animated;" ATTENDANCE 13,671 Sold-out; "I Mother Earth" opened (I have 2 dats of this) 05/11/97 All Mountain View, CA - Shoreline A:D A 156 Schoeps CMC64> Aerco "Test For Echo" Tour 44k 05/24/97 All Dallas, TX - Starplex Ampitheatre A:D B+ 161 AT4051>DA-P1 "Test For Echo" Tour 48k 06/14/97 All Tinley Park, IL - World Music A:D A 161 Sonic Studios>dsm-6>D7 "Test For Echo" Tour 48k; ATTENDANCE 11,481/15,000 seats Take Care, Delano http://www.geocities.com/digitaldelano/ ------------------------------ From: "lee bittner" Subject: Delta card/ CEPro Question Reply-To: southsur@hotmail.com Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 09:19:45 -0700 I've been trying to integrate a Delta Audiophile 2496 card with CoolEditPro. I can run DAT into CE, but not analog in. Any suggestions about device settings? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: JHudson199@aol.com Subject: ISO: The Gourds Summer Tour 2001 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:32:07 EDT I am looking for any DATs or CDs from the Gourds east coast Summer tour.I have many shows to trade. Thanks, Jon ------------------------------ From: "pwk" Subject: alt-rock DATs available for b&p Reply-To: sleepypedro@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:44:15 -0600 hi -- i'd like to find good homes for these two DATs, contact me if interested: 5-28-01 Radiohead @ Vaison La Romaine webcast (captured @ 300k downstream, sounds great) 4-11-01 David J (ex. Love & Rockets) @ Knitting Factory, NYC (dpa 4061 > m1) Radiohead is a Maxell 90M, David J is a Masterdat 60 M. both shows also available for trade on CDr if that's more your thang. cheers pwk ------------------------------ From: "NashPhil" Subject: Laptop Recording Info Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:03:36 -0500 Not exactly DAT-related....... Back in June, I purchased a Digigram VX-Pocket and SONY VAIO PCG-C1VSX/K to record with. This is similar to the US version, but it has more power all around and is from SONY Japan through http://www.dynamism.com/c1vsx/index.shtml (Got a great deal, cheaper than what the website says, they are willing to deal) (667 CPU,256 SDRAM,30 GIG,512 CACHE+Bluetooth) Once the Jap software had been stripped off and the English version put on, I started working on setting up for recording. Instead of going the route that others had and wiping the hard drive and building from scratch, I was short on time before I left to take it on the road. I simplified everything, removed all uneeded apps, config the power settings, etc.. and then loaded the software. I set up Sounforge 5.0b for recording and editing. CD Wave for tracking, MKW for SHN'ing, and Nero for burning. I bought a SONY CRX1600L Firewire 12x external CDRW burner, a D.Link Ethernet card, and all is good. Once I had the system set up like I wanted, the recording was a breeze. No problems with recording at all. In all formats everything checks out. This is all running on ONE operating system, WIN200pro. So it goes to show you, someone with limited knowledge can set one of these up without too many worries. My theory is, if you are going to use a very expensive laptop to record with, you need to know how to configure it yourself. Not to knock any of the turnkey programs, because that is a wonderful and relatively foolproof and time saving method. I had the time and needed the knowledge, so I went for it and it wasn't that difficult. I recorded about 20 shows this summer while on the road, and about 20 at home since I returned. Only the first couple had any problems, and those were all my fault. Live and Learn. I have a couple of questions for any other Vaio and Win200pro users. Where is the setting control for the items in the system tray?. I cannot seem to find it. It's probably right under my nose, but I'll be damned if I can find it. Tired of looking, so I ask the experts. 1. What ASPI drivers are yall using? I have tried the LSI Logic drivers and others but cannot seem to find exactly the right one to get all the CDR software I want to work correctly. CDRWIN doesn't like NERO and NERO doesn't like EASYCD CREATOR. I have not installed the crappy EASYCD and want to try and avoid that, but it seems the driver almost has to be the Adaptec one, but it conflicts with Nero, so I dunno. Remember, I have EIDE Firewire CDRW to contend with, which complicates the issue even more. I'm setting up my desktop exactly the same way and having the same problems on it too. EAC will not recognize the Firewire CDR using any version on any machine, and neither will CDRWIN. Anyone that has found an easy solution to this, please fill me in. 2. While I'm at it, what CDR software are most of you using for perfect audio burns? Nero seems to put in very tiny clicks intermittingly, and EASY CD sucks, CDRWIN is ok, but I would like something that has a better interface and flexibility as well as reliability. Any suggestions? 3. I tried hooking up the desktop and the VAIO to their firewire ports to see how that worked, it didn't. Hardware wizards pop up wanting to install PC 1394 hardware, but it can't find a driver for it, so it disables. I'm sure there is a easy solution for connecting 2 PC's together via firewire. Again, any solutions? 4. For the last few years I have been using Cool Edit Pro v1.2 for editing because it is so much faster than Soundforge, not as reliable but easier interface to use. I still like to use it for cut/pastes, quick multitrack edits, level boosting, and such. When I installed it on 2000 it was giving error prompts and shutting down after a few minutes when you would stop/start playing from different locations, this was occurring intermittingly and with the newer version (1.2a) that I tried too. It was having the same problems on both machines set up almost identical to each other. Seems to be software related, but can't isolate exactly what is causing this, any ideas? 5. Since I can't get Cool Edit working right, and Soundforge is SO slow for editing, are there any other great progs out there that do the editing quickly and reliably with a nice interface to use. Multitrack is key, because I like overlaying the tracks a few seconds sometimes on mixed CD's for friends. I've Heard about Wavelab 3.0 by Steinberg, but haven't tried it and don't know about it's WIN2000 compatibility. Ok, that's enough questions for now. I have really been enjoying recording with the laptop. Taping has become really fun to me again, and that's a blessing because I was starting to get burn out, and the Vaio has fixed that. The future of taping has nothing to do with tape. Thanks for the help Later, Phil http://www.nashphil.com ------------------------------ From: "Nick Georges" Subject: right angle XLR???? Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:13:46 -0400 does it exist? anyone know where to score these?? ****************************************** www.nickspicks.com * a resource for digital music enthusiasts* * www.cablemodeminfo.com * best broadband resource page there is! * * * ****************************************** ------------------------------ From: "geoff nicholson" Subject: iso:tapers for Shellac dates Italy/Switzerland/Germany Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:31:58 -0600 ========== From: "geoff nicholson" To: dat-heads@datheads.phish.net Subject: iso:tapers for Shellac dates Italy/Switzerland/Germany Date: Mon, Aug 27, 2001, 7:12 AM Greetings Europe, Can anyone tape ANY of the following Shellac European tour dates? I have much to trade, 20+Shellac masters, 75+shows, plus tons of other noise. These need to be taped stealth. If needed I can cover costs. Any help appreciated. Geoff Shellac 2001 Tour Dates 1SEP01 Cuneo, Italy I Nuvolari 2SEP01 Zurich, Switzerland Rote Fabrik 4SEP01 Roma, Italy La Palma Club 5SEP01 Napoli, Italy Arenile De Bagnoil 7SEP01 Verona, Italy Interzona 8SEP01 Bologna, Italy Festa Dell'Unita 11SEP01 Berlin, Germany X-Tract Chicago ------------------------------ From: Art Munson Subject: RE: Pro Digital is great ("Larry Narachi") Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:25:44 -0700 I agree, I always recommend them and they did a great job on my old SONY 75ES. Art www.tape.com > From: "Larry Narachi" > Subject: Pro Digital is great > Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 11:20:40 -0700 > > Just got my Tascam DA-P1 serviced by Pro-Digital and wanted to say that > these guys do a great job. > They went beyond what I was complaining about and fixed > everything including > stuff that will fail later... > > Highly recommend them > > Larry Narachi > "taperachi" > ------------------------------ From: L_Sean_Kennedy Subject: Re: right angle XLR???? Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:50:03 -0400 --On Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:13 PM -0400 Nick Georges wrote: > does it exist? Yes. Neutrik offers them, the part number will generally have "RC" in it (and -B for black/gold or w/o means silver colored housing). Example "NC3MRC-B" is cable-end, 3-pin male, right-angle, balack w/o gold contacts. > anyone know where to score these?? Markertek.com will sell individual plugs and for a small additional fee you can specify this termination on any cables they make. Any larger electronics mail-order catalog which offers Neutrik connectors will likely have right-angle. Your local pro-audio shop may or may not. Sean ------------------------------ From: Mark Mayhle Subject: Sony DTC-690 DAT deck for sale Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:26:30 -0500 (CDT) I bought this deck used a couple years ago to feed DATs to my ZA2. I had it serviced by Paul at ProDigital when I bought it and put about 50 hours on it. I went to load a DAT a couple weeks ago and discovered that mysteriously, the tape tray/door would not close all the way to load the tape. I have no idea how this happened; it may be trivially easy to fix or may not, but I couldn't figure it out after a few minutes of playing around with it and decided to move on... I have replaced it with a D5 and would like to sell it. I don't have a manual but did buy a remote that comes from a different Sony model but works fine with it. Asking $100 plus shipping. Use it for parts, fix it yourself or get it fixed professionally. -- Mark Mayhle mark@mayhle.com ------------------------------ From: Eugene Hu Subject: Re: Upgrade rant Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:22:06 -0700 > A couple of recent posts have got me wondering. One questions the hardware > approach to better sounding recordings, while another praises Josephson > microphones as being as good or better than Schoeps. > > As a newbie with an M1 and omnis, I have made some very listenable > recordings, but I wonder where I should invest to get better sound; > microphones, cables, preamp/power supply, A/D convertor? Do you really get > much benefit if only one part of the chain is upgraded? Has anybody > upgraded and been disappointed with what they got for their money? In order of importance: location; mics and placement (XY, ORTF, etc.); preamp; A/D converter; cables. One might quibble about the order of the last three. Upgrading any part is usually audible, but upgrading stuff closer to the top of the list helps more, so it's best to start there unless you have a very good reason not to. > Am I comparing apples and oranges here? Are there some good performing > recording components that won't push a rig over $5K? Come up with a useful definition of what "good" means to you and I'm sure lots of listers can help. Other folks' equipment preferences won't help unless they have the same ears and listen to the same music as you. -Eugene ------------------------------ From: Alex Prestin Subject: Neumann active cable lengths Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:46:57 -0400 (EDT) The cables that come with the set are 5m (meters, hey, these things *are* made in Europe); Neumann also sells a 10m active cable. I have the 10m actives and the only thing I don't like about them is the fact that there's just so damn much to wrap when you've got 10 meters of wire (about 25 feet or so.) Right now I've got most of the cable wrapped with velcro ties, with a little loose at either end that I wrap with another velcro tie around the whole bundle. This gives me just enough for normal applications (ORTF on a 10' stand), and if I ever need or want to run split, I can pull the other velcro tie off. - A.P. ------------------------------ From: "Steve Spott" Subject: DAT > PC Capture Software?? Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:31:28 -0400 With all the CEP and Sound Forge talk in recent days I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on the alternatives for doing the recording from DAT > PC. Currently I'm using the 14 day demo of Samplitude 2496 that does the real time resampling 48 kHz > 44.1. But with the hefty price tag and 12 days left in the demo I'm searching for an alternative. Are there any shareware recording apps people have created to cover this process (or web pages that detail out options available?) I'd be open to any suggestions here, thanks for the bandwidth. Ecstatic with my $30.00 Zoltrix, Steve http://www.sunspott.com/dat.htm _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: Chris Subject: RE: Zoltrix Nightingale soundcard Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 12:32:33 -0700 (PDT) I got my Zoltrix Nightingale Pro 6 from http://www.inpax.com a few weeks ago. $40 plus shipping and handling ($11?) They were slow in shipping it out even though it was in stock, but I got it. They are one of the only Zoltrix dealers in the US (if not the only) IN OTHER NEWS: I recorded Depeche Mode on August 19, 2001 at the Pond in Anaheim. My setup was: Sound Professional AT933 Hyper Cardiods > Sound Pro Battery Box (Roll off @ 69Hz) > Sony PCM-M1 (@ 44.1khz) http://www.ihateblockbuster.com/dm2001-08-19-DreamOn.mp3 For a sample song I'm a uni-decker so the only way I can trade is either Audio CD's or shn files. Looking for recent U2 euro shows (Berlin, Slane, Cologne 1, etc..), The Cult in Los Angeles (or good complete shows from this tour) OR any great Sting, The Police, Weezer, Oasis, REM shows. I have very little in the way of recording by bands other than U2. If you have a list (html or text) Let me know... -Chris __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: cook@eklektix.com Subject: Re: anybody have a unix "find peak" Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:47:25 -0600 John R. Vanderpool asks about finding peaks & normalizing audio files on Unix. The open-source Sox utility can do a bunch of utility processing on audio files. Sox supposedly also supports aiff files, but I haven't tried that feature. This shell script does the trick for me: #!/bin/csh # # Normalize1wav # [gfc] Normalize the volume of one wav file. # set vol = `sox $1 -e stat -v |& cat -` echo $1 needs volume adjustment factor of $vol if ( "$vol" != "1.000" ) then echo adjusting $1 sox -v $vol $1 adjustedfile.wav mv -f adjustedfile.wav $1 endif exit Sox can be found at: http://home.sprynet.com/~cbagwell/sox.html I also use Sox to resample digital audio files that I create with a DAT feeding into a Linux box with a Zoltrix Nightengale card: sox -V -r 48000 $1 -r 44100 $1.44k.wav Forrest Cook cook@lwn.net http://eklektix.com/gfc/ WB0RIO ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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