DAT-heads Digest #27
Contents:
Nickelback @ Minnesota State Fair 08.31.2001 ("Vince Horst")
DiO 2448 w/ Win2k Help Needed
ISO a new home for these full CDs/CD singles (Olympian90@aol.com)
Right Angle XLR (Klay Anderson)
Bookmarks of Interest? (-bob)
ISO live Gillian Welch (leeshave@ix.netcom.com)
Extra DATs for trade/bnp CLOSED (Delano)
ISO Alison Krauss & Union Station 8/25/01Florence, MA. ("Red Eye")
Labor Day Specials at Sonic Sense ("Marc Nutter")
'C' cell NiCds, Great Big Sea ("John McGuire")
Re: Upgrade rant ("DRider")
ISO: CSN 9/17 Winery Tix + BWT (dmbandfan1@juno.com)
Tascam DA-40 remote control (Kevin Brown)
extra George Thorogood 5/18/01 for B+P ("Dan Greenberg")
File Size issues for computer recording ("Marc Nutter")
battery pack for AC equipment? ("Nick Georges")
Preamp suggestions ("Nick Georges")
ISO-Madonna Chicago (ZAndersson@aol.com)
Sony DDS DG-60P or DG-60M? (Kevin Brown)
FS: Fibox mic pre (Erich S)
How do I best use my SBM-1? ("Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.")
From: "Vince Horst" <vhorst@mn.rr.com>
Subject: Nickelback @ Minnesota State Fair 08.31.2001
Reply-To: vhorst@mn.rr.com
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 13:09:38 -0700
I was going to go (and tape) this show, but I can no longer=20
make it.=20
If anyone is going to this show (they are opening for Three=20
Doors Down) can you get in touch with me, please? I'd love=20
to get a copy. I have other recent Nickelback shows to=20
trade.
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Vince Horst
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From: <thebogarts@fuse.net>
Subject: DiO 2448 w/ Win2k Help Needed
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:19:41 EDT
Can someone who runs this setup email me? I'm in dire need of help with getting my 2448 up and running, and regretfully, Midiman's site is less than helpful.
Thanks!
Eric
From: Olympian90@aol.com
Subject: ISO a new home for these full CDs/CD singles
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:29:28 EDT
Hello, everyone.
I'm doing a bit of cleaning around the house and would like to find new homes
for the CDs listed below. I'd like to get $2.00 each for any of the CDs
below. There are two categories, great shape and scuffed. As far as I know,
all the scuffed play fine but don't look that great cosmetically. Please
e-mail me if you're interested in any of these. I can remove any of the
discs from jewel cases to save on postage if you're outside the US. Hope to
hear from you!
PS A lot of these are UK-pressed CD singles.
Great/good-shape CDs:
Frazier Chorus/Sloppy Heart 3" CD in heart-shaped pack
Longpigs/On And On 2-track US CD
Cardigans/Carnival
Levellers/Beautiful Day CD2
Levellers/Hope St.
Lemonheads/My Drug Buddy
Catherine Wheel/Waydown with postcards
Gay Dad/Leisure Noise
Gigolo Aunts/Full-On Bloom
Gigolo Aunts/Mrs. Washington (contains great cover of The Smiths' "Ask")
Stereophonics/3-song live acoustic EP
Gigolo Aunts/Cope
Shawn Colvin & Mary Chapin Carpenter/One Cool Remove 1-song US CD
Gimme Shelter - contains 3 versions of this; one is New Model Army featuring
Tom Jones, one is Kingmaker, and the other is Cud and Sandie Shaw.
Gigolo Aunts/Where I Find My Heaven 1-song US CD
Frazier Chorus/Cloud 8
Gene Loves Jezebel/Josephina
Lenny Kravitz/Are You Gonna Go My Way (FULL CD)
Levellers/Leveling The Land (FULL CD)
Levellers/Self-Titled (FULL CD)
Levellers/Zeitgeist (FULL CD)
Frank & Walters/Tony Cochrane 4-song sampler
CDs with scratches:
Lenny Kravitz/5 (FULL CD)
Cutting Crew/One For The Mockingbird
Jesus & Mary Chain/Blues From A Gun 3" CD with a cover of "My Girl!"
Aztec Camera & Mick Jones/Good Morning Britain
Crowded House/Fingers Of Love with live tracks
Levellers/Exodus Live EP
Levellers/Just The One EP
Levellers/Fantasy
Levellers/Far From Home
Depeche Mode/Personal Jesus with acoustic version
Catherine Wheel/Waydown with XFM tracks
Thanks!
From: Klay Anderson <klay@klay.com>
Subject: Right Angle XLR
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 15:03:34 -0600
"Nick Georges" <nick@nickspicks.com>
Subject: right angle XLR????
Asked:
> does it exist? anyone know where to score these??
We stock these.
Thanks!
--
Regards,
Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E.
Klay Anderson Audio, Inc.
http://www.klay.com
1.800.FOR.KLAY
From: -bob <bp@gti.net>
Subject: Bookmarks of Interest?
Reply-To: bp@gti.net
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 17:41:28 -0400
I'm putting together a Favorites or Bookmarks page for taping/trading.
You can view what I've got at :
http://www.gti.net/bp/
Please add any good links by e-mailing me at:
bp@gti.net
Questions and comments always welcome.
Anyone doing direct digital recording to laptop please e-mail me.
I'm looking into Waveterminal U2A and Roland stuff and could use some
opinions & ideas.
Thanks,
-Bob
From: leeshave@ix.netcom.com
Subject: ISO live Gillian Welch
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 18:37:44 -0400
I saw Gillian Welch/David Rawlings last night for the first time...great performance. Would love to get a copy of some live performances...I have a little Grisman, Del McCoury or Dead on CD to trade...
Lee
From: Delano <eagle-winged-palace@home.com>
Subject: Extra DATs for trade/bnp CLOSED
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 19:33:15 -0400
All gone. Thanks for playing.
Take Care,
Delano
http://www.geocities.com/digitaldelano/
From: "Red Eye" <redeye532@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO Alison Krauss & Union Station 8/25/01Florence, MA.
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 19:39:54 -0400
Hi..
I was at this show, and would like to get a copy if a tape exists.
A dat or cdr(shn) copy would be fine.
I can trade only in the CDR format.
Please contact me, thanks,
Clint
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From: "Marc Nutter" <nutter@sonicsense.com>
Subject: Labor Day Specials at Sonic Sense
Reply-To: "Marc Nutter" <nutter@sonicsense.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:45:07 -0600
Hey All,
As the Audio Engineering Society show draws closer and we prepare for this
big week out of the office (September 19-25), we are offering some excellent
deals for those who want to shop now!!!
Although our website continues being intermittent, we have just changed
ISP's and they promise stability!
Please visit our site at www.sonicsense.com or call us Toll-Free at (877)
324-4463
The Latest Specials Include:
Pre-Owned Equipment:
AKG 460's with cardioid ck-61 capsules $680.00/pair
AKG C1000's cardioid/hyper-card $300/pair
Apogee AD-8000 (eight-channel unit) $3,200.00
TDIF and ADAT cards available
HHB Portadat PDR-1000 $1650.00
MBHO 603a/ka200 Pre-Owned Pair $1350.00
Schoeps Tubes M222 bodies with NT222 power supplies. $2600.00
SONICORDER 24-bit field recording system DEMO PACKAGE (Call for pricing)
System includes SONY C1VN laptop with choices of VX Pocket or USBPre,
Quad-capacity Lithium Ion battery or Electrofuel power system,
and SoundForge 5.0 or Wavelab 3.0
NEW Equipment:
Great deals on Steinberg's Wavelab and Sonic Foundry Sound Forge 5.0
SEK'D Prodif Plus sound cards
Sound Devices MP-2's at our best price yet!
Tascam DA-P1 at the best price in years!
For those of you who are interested in the progression of computer-based
field recording we have added some new pictures and a document called
Demystifying Laptop-Based Audio Recording!!!
http://www.sonicsense.com/10myths.html
Have a great 3 day weekend everybody : )
(We'll be here Friday and Monday for those who want to get in touch).
Happy Recording!!!
Marc
Marc Nutter
Mike Remmers
Sonic Sense, Inc.
2755 S. Gilpin St.
Denver, CO 80210
Toll Free Phone (877) 324-4463
http://www.sonicsense.com
From: "John McGuire" <john@safesets.com>
Subject: 'C' cell NiCds, Great Big Sea
Reply-To: <john@safesets.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:51:19 -0500
I have 12 'C' cells with wire tabs, made by Energizer. They are from a 14v
cordless screwdriver battery (which I broke and replaced with an 18v unit-
the screwdriver, not the battery pack). Anyway, they could be put to good
use by someone with a soldering iron and some wire, and made into a battery
pack. You are on your own for a charger tho.
I would LOVE to trade them for ANY recordings of Great Big Sea, the
Newfoundland celtic/folk/rock band-- the wife has FINALLY taken an interest
in some live music, and wouldnt ya know it-- nobody's ever heard of them!
Otherwise-- free to good home in exchange for $$ to cover shipping.
John
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the
experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination
to
do so. -- Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See
From: "DRider" <Hawkwind@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: Upgrade rant
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 22:01:15 -0400
Todd,
I did not really consider your post a rant....
Be that as it may. I think that most would agree that your mics are the most
important component to your "rig".
As far as something being better than something else.....
Part of that concept is purely biased or opinion-based. While it IS true
that certain components are "better" than others, when you start getting
into high end equipment it turns into a matter of preference.
Once you break the $1,000 range for mics, you have reached this specific
zone. Things to consider at that point deal w/ your typical application and
sound preference. Few mics are truly transparent and colorless. Some mics
have a brighter sound, while others have alot of low end.
If you were gonna be doing a fair mixture of stealthing and open taping, it
would be good to go w/ mics that have detachable capsules or what some call
activator cables. Schoeps, Neumann, and MBHO come to mind.
Stealthing comes into play when searching for other components in building a
"rig". The Sound Devices MP-2 is small enough to use for stealthing. The
SBM-1 also fits the stealthing size limit and the OADE's are doing a 24-bit
mod. to them these days.....
Other components like the Apogee's are not so stealth worthy and neither is
the V.2
You could go w/ the small DPA's and Nutter's AD2K and probably stealth just
fine.
The Zefiro Inbox was made w/ stealthing in mind.
So if you have $ 5,000 to spend, you could get an AWESOME rig!
But you don't need to spend that much money to make high quality recordings.
The best thing to do is collect enough sources and patch into enough rigs to
get a solid idea of what you like and what you don't like. Also, making
mental notes of the rigs that seem to be problematic for your potential
applications.
Hope this helps!
D
From: "Ragan Todd" <rhinelander2130@hotmail.com>
Subject: Upgrade rant
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 22:29:42
A couple of recent posts have got me wondering. One questions the hardware
approach to better sounding recordings, while another praises Josephson
microphones as being as good or better than Schoeps.
As a newbie with an M1 and omnis, I have made some very listenable
recordings, but I wonder where I should invest to get better sound;
microphones, cables, preamp/power supply, A/D convertor? Do you really get
much benefit if only one part of the chain is upgraded? Has anybody
upgraded and been disappointed with what they got for their money?
I did a lot of work as a photographer in college, and the equipment you
could afford sometimes determined whether you got a good photo, a crappy
photo, or no photo. That being said, a Tamron lens with the same spec as a
Nikon lens could cost half as much and one would be hard pressed to see a
difference in a side by side comparison of the photos.
Am I comparing apples and oranges here? Are there some good performing
recording components that won't push a rig over $5K?
Ragan
From: dmbandfan1@juno.com
Subject: ISO: CSN 9/17 Winery Tix + BWT
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 03:34:48 GMT
So sorry to do this, but I'm looking rather desperately for one or two tickets to Crosby, Stills, and Nash at the Mountain Winery in Saratoga, CA on 9/17/01. Anything will do.
Please contact me if you can help me out. I can offer face + charges + shipping + gratuity + goodies. :)
Also, I'm offering uploads of Living Daylights 7/10/01 DSBD or The Big Wu 7/21/01 KM184>DAP1.
Take care, and keep it rolling.
joe
janajera@aol.com, dmbandfan1@juno.com
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From: Kevin Brown <kevin5brown@yahoo.com>
Subject: Tascam DA-40 remote control
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 21:16:58 -0700 (PDT)
The RC-D45. Got to buy it separately from the deck
itself. Anyone out there know where to get one (other
than Tascam for $100) or have 1 to sell?
Thanks!
Kevin.
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From: "Dan Greenberg" <letitgro@warwick.net>
Subject: extra George Thorogood 5/18/01 for B+P
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 00:35:23 -0400
This outdoor GA show was in Deerpark, NY. It was
recorded with Sonics Studios DSM-6 mics > Sony D8.
It is ~100 min. but is missing the beginning of the first
song. It's recorded on a Sony 90m DAT.
In return, I'd like a sealed blank Sony or Maxell 90m
DAT plus postage.
First to respond after the Digest hits my mailbox gets it
(unless you're willing to do B+P's for others).
I'll be gone this weekend, so I'll have to get back to you
either Monday or Tuesday nite.
-Dan Greenberg-
From: "Marc Nutter" <nutter@sonicsense.com>
Subject: File Size issues for computer recording
Reply-To: "Marc Nutter" <nutter@sonicsense.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 22:49:38 -0600
Hi All,
At the risk of misusing DAT-heads or forcing a change to the a name like
recording heads, I wanted to address the following statement made recently.
>The 2GB limitation is bascially a Windows '98 issue. Windows NT
>allows 4GB files. Not sure about Windows XT/2000/etc.
This is true but the unfortunately aspect is the .wav files were created
during the earlier days are were compliant with file size restrictions of
2GB.
However, the right software can circumvent the issue. Namely, Wavelab from
Steinberg has an automated process that will start writing a new file
automatically at a user selectable file size of duration (time) of
recording. Consequently, the recordist need not be present at the critical
moment. No more tape flips, tape changes, or even manual start/stops...
It just keeps getting more fun....
Happy Recording!!!
Marc
Marc Nutter
Mike Remmers
Sonic Sense, Inc.
2755 S. Gilpin St.
Denver, CO 80210
Toll Free Phone (877) 324-4463
http://www.sonicsense.com
From: "Nick Georges" <nick@nickspicks.com>
Subject: battery pack for AC equipment?
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:47:20 -0400
Is it possible to make a portable battery system to power an AC piece of
hardware?
Better yet, is it possible to do it and still keep it (battery system) no
bigger than an ecocharge setup?
Please point me to any resources that may be helpful.
My goal, M-audio's new "audio sport duo" is AC powered. I want to make it
portable.
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From: "Nick Georges" <nick@nickspicks.com>
Subject: Preamp suggestions
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:01:30 -0400
Hey all...
You may have just read my other post about making a portable AC system.
This is sort of related.
I am looking to buy a new preamp for my field rig. Optimum featrues:
dual mic pre, phantom and A/D in one box.
USB/Firewire AND s/pdif out.
24bit AD is a must.
96k support would be good.
I would like something that would allow me to switch between laptop and DAT
reocording or be able to support both simultaneously.
What I've seen:
m-audio audio sport duo. Exactly what I want, but 9vAC powered.
Sound devices USBpre. can only be used with PC (draws power from USB, no
s/pdif).
Anything else?
Price is an obsticle, of course. I'm looking to stay under a grand.
or..would it be better to just by a V2 and battery system. Worry about A/D
later.
Thanks for any/all advice.
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From: ZAndersson@aol.com
Subject: ISO-Madonna Chicago
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 09:43:46 EDT
Fellow DAT-Heads,
I know this is kind of an odd request, but did anyone tape the Madonna show in Chicago? A best friend from college, who has been in the Madonna fan club since it's inception, would just die to get a copy for her upcoming 30th birthday. She finally got to go to a show after waiting for like 15 years....Madonna supposedly NEVER plays Colorado. If anyone here is interested, I have one other Madonna show from this tour (Philly-schoeps) to trade. Plenty of other NON madonna stuff to trade too...
Peace,
Zach
http://www.users.qwest.net/~zandersson/all.html
From: Kevin Brown <kevin5brown@yahoo.com>
Subject: Sony DDS DG-60P or DG-60M?
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 08:11:12 -0700 (PDT)
Hey all-
I have used the 60P's with mostly no problems. Any
info on the 60M's? Better or worse quality?
Problems?
I couldn't really find much on Sony's web sites.
Thanks!
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From: Erich S <leaves1854@yahoo.com>
Subject: FS: Fibox mic pre
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:26:44 -0700 (PDT)
LIGHTWAVE Systems, Inc. - Fibox system including:
-FBAI-M, a 20-bit A/D 2-channel fiber-optic interface
with mic preamps; The Mic input box (stereo XLR)
-FBAO-M, a fiber-optic interface that outputs
2-channel analog audio through a 20-bit D/A converter;
the Mic output box. (Stereo XLR)
Balanced XLR in, balanced XLR out, can pass very high
quality digital signal down 3 miles of fiber with NO
LOSS and provide 48V phantom power at the source.
Perfect for remote recording. Interconnects between
any ST fiber I/O cable (comes with a 12' ST fiber
cable) Brand new out of the box (literally), only used
one time to make sure it works, which it does.
Includes wall warts for both boxes, manual, and
origional packaging. A rep. through the comp. I work
at made me a great deal on it. It's really cool, but
it's not what I need at the moment. It's more for a
permanent install (would be ideal for a club) Here's a
link for more info on the product:
http://www.lightwavesys.com/news/Jun_1995.htm
List (it did anyways) for $1499 for the pair of boxes.
I'm asking $800 OBO
email: leaves1854@yahoo.com
CD trades anyone? www.geocities.com/leaves1854
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go to the grave with the song still in them." - H.D.
Thoreau
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From: "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." <wayne@hoxnet.com>
Subject: How do I best use my SBM-1?
Reply-To: <wayne@hoxnet.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 12:53:13 -0500 (CDT)
I just got a used Sony SBM-1 and unfortunately didn't get a manual
with it. Sony's web site has no info that I can find. Certainly
DAT-Heads can help me out!
The SBM-1 has me a bit confused with all the input jacks. I don't
know which ones I should use with my setup. I currently have a set
of Oktava MC-012's powered by a Denecke PS-2. This I feed through
hi-Z/lo-Z XLR xfmr's to a 1/8 in. stereo adapter, then into the
line-in of my PCM-M1. The SBM-1 has 2 1/4 in. mic jacks, a 1/8
in. mic jack, and 2 RCA jacks. The RCA's are labeled as "line-in"
so I'm guessing that these would be most appropriate for my setup.
I also assume that the 1/8 in. jack is for like CSB's or some other
mics that need plug-in power. Is this correct? Does "-20 dB" switch
act as an attenuator or does it cut-out a preamp stage (ala the M1)?
What are the 1/4 in. jacks used for?
What is the electronic difference between the 20 bit "super bitmapping"
and the 16 bit "linear quantization"? How does a 20 bit A/D help if
the DAT can only store 16 on the tape anyway?
Any "gotchas" I should know about, or any other info would be greatly
appreciated.
--
Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.
wayne@hoxnet.com
http://www.hoxnet.com
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