DAT-heads Digest #28, Volume #6 Sat, 1 Sep 01 13:50:01 EDT Contents: El Liceu in Barcelona ("J.Garcia") Re: DAT-heads Digest #27 (Chris Mathews) re: How do I best use my SBM-1? (Andrew Nemeth) FS: Tascam DA-40 and Panasonic SV-3800 on eBay ("Michael Hanson") Brian Fredkin? Anyone know? (Daniel Thweatt) SMPTE sync? (David Cox) ORTF Q ("scott charles") Re: : battery pack for AC equipment ("Jamie Lutch") Follow Up - Vaio questions ("NashPhil") FS: Taping Equipment (kristi jo) re skm140 (Michael Miller) "Tricking" Consumer CD burners? ("Barnes, Barry") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J.Garcia" Subject: El Liceu in Barcelona Reply-to: elektrik@navegalia.com Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:52:07 +0200 Anyone has experience in stealth taping at El Liceu, the opera hall in Barcelona? If so, please get in touch. Thanks Jose Garcia elektrik@navegalia.com ------------------------------ From: Chris Mathews Subject: Re: DAT-heads Digest #27 Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 14:57:57 -0400 These are few and far between, GBS actively discourages live recording. -c At 01:50 PM 8/31/01 -0400, Digestifier wrote: >From: "John McGuire" >Subject: 'C' cell NiCds, Great Big Sea >Reply-To: >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:51:19 -0500 > >I would LOVE to trade them for ANY recordings of Great Big Sea, the >Newfoundland celtic/folk/rock band-- the wife has FINALLY taken an interest >in some live music, and wouldnt ya know it-- nobody's ever heard of them! -c -- Chris Mathews IM: FighterFoo cdm@cisunix.unh.edu Shows hitting/taping: 8/25 - Foxtrot Zulu @ Lawrence, MA 9/7 - Fighting Gravity @ Allston, MA 9/8 - Rane @ Concord, NH 9/13 - Rustic Overtones @ Boston, MA 9/15 - Ben Folds @ Boston, MA (tent) 9/20 - Howie Day @ Boston, MA 9/28 - Foxtrot Zulu @ Worcester, MA 10/12 - Foxtrot Zulu @ Portland, ME 10/31 - Cowboy Mouth w/ Fighting Gravity @ Avalon ------------------------------ From: Andrew Nemeth Subject: re: How do I best use my SBM-1? Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 05:56:08 +1000 "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." had questions about using a Sony SBM-1: > The SBM-1 has 2 1/4 in. mic jacks, a 1/8 > in. mic jack, and 2 RCA jacks The 2x 1/4 inch jacks are for L+R microphones with no phantom power. The L jack can also act as a mono feed, whereby you only plug in one mic and yet both channels are given an identical signal at the output stage. The 1/8 jack is a stereo mic socket which does provide phantom power, although only a useless 2V. The 2x RCA jacks are line-in. >Does "-20 dB" switch act as an attenuator Yes. >What is the electronic difference between the 20 bit "super bitmapping" >and the 16 bit "linear quantization"? How does a 20 bit A/D help if >the DAT can only store 16 on the tape anyway? You need to read up on dither, word-length reduction and external A/Ds in general. Here's a couple of URLs to get you started: (PDF 80 KB) (PDF 1.3 MB) =2E.. although be warned that they do tend to push their UV22 dither scheme! > Any "gotchas" I should know about, or any other info would be greatly > appreciated. I have found the built-in preamp to have way too much self-noise for recording quiet sounds. So best to bypass it using your own pre-amp (with a more realistic built-in phantom V supply!). Regds, Andrew Nemeth -> photos, 360=B0 panoramic vrs, sounds -> vr java applets, leica faq, tech info ------------------------------ From: "Michael Hanson" Subject: FS: Tascam DA-40 and Panasonic SV-3800 on eBay Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 13:09:13 -0700 Hi DAT-Heads: This is a re-post as the auction is in it's final days: I'm selling off a couple DAT decks on eBay. One is a Tascam DA-40 and the other is a Panasonic SV-3800. Both are great decks with EXTREMELY low hours on the original heads. Surf on over to the following link for more info: http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=mihanson --- Mike Hanson ------------------------------ From: DannyThweatt@webtv.net (Daniel Thweatt) Subject: Brian Fredkin? Anyone know? Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:24:19 -0500 (CDT) Hi guys. Whie scanning some of the DAT-HEAD archives, I came across some posts by a guy named Brian Fredkin that interested me, but alas, his e-mail has apparently changed. He hasn't posted recently, and I was wondering if anyone knows him, could hook me up with his e-mail, or point me in a right direction. Feel free to contact me off list. BTW, still looking for more Verve as always. My list: http://www.sanctifiedpress.com/trade.html Have a nice day, Danny Check out Sanctified Press:christian rock,apologetics,poetry,ranting,etc... "http://www.sanctifiedpress.com" danny@sanctifiedpress.com ------------------------------ From: David Cox Subject: SMPTE sync? Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 13:55:38 -0700 (PDT) sorry for OT... i'm trying to figure out how to do ADR (automated dialog replacement) on the cheap. i need to press record in a multitrack program and have some sort of sync box/card tell a hard-disk video player to play in sync with the computer. this way, an actor can lip-sync with his voice to re-record dialog tracks. i'm indefferent regarding software, but would ideally be able to do this with cooledit pro. i know this is way out in left field, but does anyone have any ideas of where to start with this? thanks! dave ===== david c. cox http://www.davidcox.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "scott charles" Subject: ORTF Q Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 21:46:15 OK using the ortf mounting pattern - this may be a dumb question, but the mics are crossed, right? Is the mic that "points" left over the other mic the left or right channel? In other words, the cable is on the right, the element is on the left, left channel? It makes sense that way to me but I'm not sure. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ From: "Jamie Lutch" Subject: Re: : battery pack for AC equipment Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 21:16:01 -0700 > From: "Nick Georges" > Subject: battery pack for AC equipment? > Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:47:20 -0400 > > Is it possible to make a portable battery system to power an AC piece of > hardware? yes, but only with an inverter. Apart from the large size, the ac is very likely to generate RF noise into your recordings. It may be possible to hack the audio sport duo to run on ac, tho... > m-audio audio sport duo. Exactly what I want, but 9vAC powered. > Sound devices USBpre. can only be used with PC (draws power from USB, no > s/pdif). > if its only drawing power, its an easy hack to a USB cable to feed it 5V dc. If it runs on usb, it pulls less than 500 ma by spec. 4C or D nimh batteries would give it 5V and several hours of battery life. It might even take 6V, which would work well (more common in taping equipment) > > Anything else? > Price is an obsticle, of course. I'm looking to stay under a grand. > > or..would it be better to just by a V2 and battery system. Worry about A/D > later. > Thanks for any/all advice. A V2 with a lesser quality AD would prob be on the same level as 24 bit with a lesser mic pre. Ideally you'd want both with an AD2K :) ------------------------------ From: "NashPhil" Subject: Follow Up - Vaio questions Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 00:08:53 -0500 I wanted to follow up and give a report on the feedback I recieved. Thanks for the help folks, and again to Dan Heend for the keen insight. The CDR Issues have been resolved. The firewire burner is working perfectly with Feurio! No problem recognizing it, and I must say it is a very cool CDR burning program. Really easy to use and configure, plus you have the options of customizing to your machine. It does most everything you could ask for, except Data CD's. For that Nero has been working perfectly fine. It seems that Nero just doesn't handle tracking correctly 100% of the time(with Win2k anyway). It seems to work ok, but will intermittingly mishandle the sector boundries leaving a very tiny gap on the disc at the track line. At least those were the reports from my carefully controlled scientific experiment. ;-) This is not an issue with data cd's so it works fine for those. Other programs like CDRWin and CD Architect just would not recognize the firewire burner under any configuration or driver, so that seems to be directly related to the software support. I was trying all of this simultaniously on two very differnet machines with the same programs, drivers, and operating system, and getting all of the same results. The ASPI drivers are a major player in the WIN2000 burning setup, but which one to use will depend on what type of write you have, SCSI or EIDE. With my setup I am using the ASPI driver program from LSI Logic and it works well with (firewire)EIDE and SCSI writers (I have both) with these programs. On to editing.... I still say Soundforge 5.0 is SLOW. I've tried all different configs and it just creeps along. I still like it though, works absolutely perfect for recording 2 channel 24bit/48k audio and then resampling and bit-reducing it down to 16bit/44k for audio CD's, SHN's,MP3's etc... I still stand by Cool Edit Pro 1.2(a). I have it working properly again. It was a page file issue, once I maximized the filesize, the errors cleared right up. I would estimate that for basic editing functions, such as mixing, boosting, cut/paste, etc...It is almost twice as fast as Soundforge for the very same functions. However, I would not use it for live recording or recording to the hard drive at home. Stick to Soundforge for that. In what seems to always be the case, it takes 2 people to do the same job, so goes software. So to recap.... Nero 5.5 works great for DATA CDR's Feurio 1.62 works great for AUDIO CDR's LSI Logic works great for ASPI driver Soundforge 5.0b perfect for recording/resample/bit-reduction Cool Edit Pro v1.2a works great for editing/mixing/noise reductions/multi-track There seems to be no conflicts with Win2k, the firewire burner, or the programs themselves. So that is 2 burning programs, and 2 editing programs that I can fully recomend for using with Win2000pro and/or the Sony C1 Picturebook/Sony CDR Firewire. If you can use them reliably with this setup, anyone should be able to pull it off on their system, whatever kind of home or portable computer you have. If you are doing any sort of hard disc recording, I would say get rid of Win98 before it destabilizes, or worse, completely hoses your machine along with all those audio files on it. Much more stable counterpart in Win2000pro. These are my experiences for what they are worth. Later, PHil ALMOST ORIGINAL MESSAGE: Back in June, I purchased a Digigram VX-Pocket and SONY VAIO PCG-C1VSX/K to record with. This is similar to the US version, but it has more power all around and is from SONY Japan through http://www.dynamism.com/c1vsx/index.shtml (Got a great deal, cheaper than what the website says, they are willing to deal) (667 CPU,256 SDRAM,30 GIG,512 CACHE+Bluetooth) + SONY CRX1600L Firewire 12x external CDRW burner, a D.Link Ethernet card, and all is good. Once I had the system set up like I wanted, the recording was a breeze. No problems with recording at all. In all formats everything checks out. This is all running on ONE operating system, WIN200pro. So it goes to show you, someone with limited knowledge can set one of these up without too many worries............................................. ------------------------------ From: kristi jo Subject: FS: Taping Equipment Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 00:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Lunatec V2 w/ battery and power cable $1100 Sonic AD2K+ w/ battery and power cable $1600 Apogee AD1000 no cable or battery $1500 Schoeps CMC6/mk4 $1900 Schoeps mk/41v caps $1700 B&K 4011 w/ windscreens $1200 AKG 414B-ULS $600 Audio Majic Ex II 15' Mic Cable pair $450 Audio Majic Ex II 3' Balanced pair $200 Audio Majic Ex II AES/EBU $80 Audio Technica 8410a Shock Mount Pair $50 Ecocharge 6v(two) $30 per battery Ecocharge 6v smart charger $10 plus shipping Christi ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Michael Miller Subject: re skm140 Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 10:22:21 -0400 (EDT) > I'm not really sure why they are so long - I occasionally > see people use them with their 140's on a stand at a taping-allowed > show...can't see why you would bother doing this unless you just wanted > to use the ORTF or XY bars that come with them, as they only attach to > the capsules when the actives are attached. I always run my 140s with > capsules and bodies attached at taping-allowed shows, and thus just have > a good set of 12'-15' XLR cables between my mics and pre-amp. I would > much rather the actives be in the 4-5' range for the times I really need > them. You need to distinguish between "taping encouraged" and "taping tolerated" shows. I've been to many shows where taping was tolerated but actively discouraged and the venue went around telling people to drop their stands below head level because of the obstructed view for people sitting behind the taper. You are always better off in this situation (even if taping is encouraged) to present as small a line-of-sight obstruction as possible. It keeps the people behind you happy and, in turn, the venue stays happy. If anyone behind you can't see the performer because your mic bodies, shockmounts, and cable loops present a signigicant obstruction, they will complain to the venue staff, which is bad for everyone wanting to tape. I've been to plenty of club shows where FOB was forbidden, but right before the show capsules on active cables were raised and the tapers never got hassled because the visual impact was not significant. Also, about the difference between KM184 and KM1x0: I have the KM184s and have been intending to move to the KM140 or KM150 specifically because I want the active cables for low profile situations. I've listened to alot of KM1x0 tapes to compare. One major difference I've found is that the KM184 is more boomy than the KM100 based mics. I don't think that the bass is as tight with the KM184s. I've also heard many tapes made with KM84i mics (i know two people who use them), and I prefer them to the KM184s. The KM1x0 tapes sound like they have a more flat response than the KM184s. Of course, you can learn to compensate through placement but there are trade-offs. I don't think that the KM184s are flat in the low bass range. The KM100s seem to be more true to the sound of the venue. As usual, ymmv. michael ------------------------------ From: "Barnes, Barry" Subject: "Tricking" Consumer CD burners? Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 12:01:45 -0400 Forgive me if this is the wrong forum to ask...if it is, please direct me to another. When standalone consumer CD burners began to appear, there was lots of talk about "tricking" them into accepting computer grade CDs as a burning medium instead of the audio grade CDs. Has anyone had any experience "tricking" an Hitachi consumer burner? Please email me offline. barry@nova.edu Thanks. Barry ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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