DAT-heads Digest #31
Contents:
Death Cab For Cutie Tapers Needed! Spanish Dates! ("Andy Swinburnson")
CS&N in NJ? (Len Moskowitz)
Re: Great Big Sea (Wayne Brissette)
ISO: King Crimson/TOOL 2001 performances (TaperB)
W.A.S.P. UnHoly Terror tour recordings (TaperB)
direct tv and dish network dgital audio (TANGUS999@aol.com)
Seeking Ratdog 8/15/01- Jones Beach (StarKG1@aol.com)
Used DAT Tapes...for blank CDS? ("Tom Morrison")
RE: Great Big Sea ("Bob Griesel")
Re: AES #111 in NYC (-bob)
Rolling Stones Guru needed (Beast914@aol.com)
Official word on Saxon taping policy (BlackCrowes@gmx.net)
ISO: TOOL tix 9/14 columbus + 9/16 detroit ("Vikas Bhatia")
Re: ORTF Q, omni chat (acffhmorst)
ISO: AC adapter/recharger for PCM-M1 ("J. Van")
paging Janet Carella... (eric nelson)
From: "Andy Swinburnson" <swinburnson1@home.com>
Subject: Death Cab For Cutie Tapers Needed! Spanish Dates!
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 11:49:37 -0700
Like the subject says... looking for tapers from Spain to catch the
following shows.
September 19 Razz (Barcelona, SPAIN)
September 21 Casa del Loco (Zaragoza, SPAIN)
September 22 Camelot (Sta. Pola, SPAIN)
September 23 Ricoamor (Castellón, SPAIN)
September 26 Moby Dick (Madrid, SPAIN)
September 28 La Iguana (Vigo, SPAIN)
September 29 Serie B Festival (Calahorra, SPAIN)
The band is cool with taping. If you are interested in what they sound
like,
I've got some live mp3's up at http://www.geocities.com/dcfc_tour/
or check their website at http://www.barsuk.com/ for some studio mp3s.
Everyone else over here in the US/Canada, they are going on a tour this
fall.
Check my website for those dates as well... looking for tapers for those
shows
too :)
Thanks for the b/w
-Andy
From: Len Moskowitz <moskowit@panix.com>
Subject: CS&N in NJ?
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 14:56:59 -0400 (EDT)
Some friends asked me to find a recording of Crosby, Stills & Nash's
recent performance at the Arts Center in NJ. Can anyone provide a copy?
Len Moskowitz Binaural and StealthMics (tm), Cables, Interfaces
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com
moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
From: Wayne Brissette <wbrisett@appleisp.net>
Subject: Re: Great Big Sea
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 14:34:32 -0500
>From: Chris Mathews <cdm@cisunix.unh.edu>
>Subject: Re: DAT-heads Digest #27
>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 14:57:57 -0400
>
>These are few and far between, GBS actively discourages live recording.
>
>-c
The only exception to this was at last year's moe.down. There are copies
of this floating around. If you want a copy, I can clone you their set
from last year.
Wayne
--
"Nature can survive without man--in fact, that may be its salvation--but
man cannot survive without nature."
---- Homero Aridjis ----
Music Trading List: http://homepage.mac.com/wayneb/
PowerMail AppleScript Archives: http://homepage.mac.com/wayneb/powermail.html
From: TaperB <TaperB@ziplip.com>
Subject: ISO: King Crimson/TOOL 2001 performances
Reply-To: TaperB@ziplip.com
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 12:38:47 -0700 (PDT)
Wanted: Any crispy HQ tapes from recent mini-tour.
Have: opening night - 8/3 Red Rocks w/ MBHO's FOB.
From: TaperB <TaperB@ziplip.com>
Subject: W.A.S.P. UnHoly Terror tour recordings
Reply-To: TaperB@ziplip.com
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 12:52:29 -0700 (PDT)
Looking for anything good on DAT/CDR/VIDEO.
I will have a couple masters from this tour available for trade soon.
Have lots of other HQ heavy metal recordings, including some recent tours for trade.
I had to laugh at the recent post about Blackie Lawless & Co. stopping the show in FL. last week.
Since when has he been so uptight?
If I remember correctly, it was a shitty quality bootleg demo that THEY circulated in 1983 that put them on the map in the first place.
No wonder he can't get anybody to come to their shows anymore.
Another case of greed at it's worst. Prick!
From: TANGUS999@aol.com
Subject: direct tv and dish network dgital audio
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 18:12:38 EDT
looking in the archives, i found nothing pertinent,so any help would be
greatly appreciated.
what kind of digital audio signal would i get from these units?16/44, 16/48
or lower? like 8/22? thanks
i have been unable to find anything out on this subject.
and now that xm radio broadcasting is becoming available what bit/sapmle
rates are they transmitting also? does anynody know? thanks
-Bob
From: StarKG1@aol.com
Subject: Seeking Ratdog 8/15/01- Jones Beach
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 19:39:45 EDT
Seeking Ratdog 8/15/01- Jone Beach. Have excellent/rare concerts for trade.
From: "Tom Morrison" <SoMnyRds@ziplink.net>
Subject: Used DAT Tapes...for blank CDS?
Reply-To: "Tom Morrison" <SoMnyRds@ziplink.net>
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 19:54:57 -0400
I am selling ~42 used DATS, that just happen to have
some great music on them...mostly dead, but there are some
other bands included...mostly low generation type of stuff
(i.e.: S:Rm, & S:Rm,D,C,D type of geneology) of dats, from
the past few years...some of these I just haven't listened to in a while
You can buy a hundred blank 80minute TDK's at Costco for $36 ...
and that is ~ what I am hoping I can get from these DATS...
Also, I have some extra styuff I will be adding to the package
(extra CDs that have been unclaimed...etc), and in past sales
I have been very generous (and added MORE DATS than
I said I was going to send...just because...:-)....
I have a general list of what is ready to be shipped...but only will
send you the list if you are *SERIOUS* about buying the entire
Lot of them...
email me at: SoMnyRds@ziplink.net for details!!!
thanks
t
From: "Bob Griesel" <sundance@olywa.net>
Subject: RE: Great Big Sea
Reply-To: <sundance@olywa.net>
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 18:40:21 -0700
There should be a number of sources from 3-15-01 in Seattle when
they opened for SCI.
Bob
>
>
> >From: Chris Mathews <cdm@cisunix.unh.edu>
> >Subject: Re: DAT-heads Digest #27
> >Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 14:57:57 -0400
> >
> >These are few and far between, GBS actively discourages live recording.
> >
> >-c
>
> The only exception to this was at last year's moe.down. There are copies
> of this floating around. If you want a copy, I can clone you their set
> from last year.
>
> Wayne
>
>
> --
> "Nature can survive without man--in fact, that may be its salvation--but
> man cannot survive without nature."
>
> ---- Homero Aridjis ----
>
> Music Trading List: http://homepage.mac.com/wayneb/
> PowerMail AppleScript Archives: http://homepage.mac.com/wayneb/powermail.html
>
From: -bob <bp@gti.net>
Subject: Re: AES #111 in NYC
Reply-To: bp@gti.net
Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 21:46:21 -0400
Is anyone from the list planning on attending the AES tradeshow and/or seminars in NYC this Sept.21-24
?
I'm looking to find like-minded (ie.- concert tapering) folks who might want to go as a loose group
and
be able to help each other navigate to the more relevant booths, exhibits, exchange ideas, etc.
Info on show at http://www.aes.org
E-mail me if you want to meet others from the DAT-Heads group there.
See You There,
Bob
N.B- Keller Williams will be at the Bowery Ballroom on the friday of the convention.
From: Beast914@aol.com
Subject: Rolling Stones Guru needed
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 22:15:00 EDT
Subject says it. Can anyone who has good knowledge of Rolling Stones music/
history contact me? Thanks.
(obligatory over-apologetic end note regarding lack of DAT content and the
abtuse use of bandwith goes here...)
D
From: BlackCrowes@gmx.net
Subject: Official word on Saxon taping policy
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 07:43:17 +0200 (MEST)
Hi all,
received this reply to my inquiry about any "official word" on the matter
from the band:
"It doesn't matter to Saxon if you record them, as long as you don't sell
these recordings (commercial use)"
So go out and tape these guys, they are definitely worth it!!get there early
and maybe try to talk to some of the band members(they often come out in
front of the venue before they open the doors)
Tour dates are @ http://www.saxon747.com
Good luck!
Karsten
--
GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet.
http://www.gmx.net
From: "Vikas Bhatia" <vikas10@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO: TOOL tix 9/14 columbus + 9/16 detroit
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:06:33 -0400
still trying to find good tickets to each of these 2 shows that are
approaching quickly. If anyone can help out, I would greatly appreciate it.
will pay face value + tape/cd of show. please contact me if you can help
out. thanks in advance.
From: acffhmorst <morst@itis.com>
Subject: Re: ORTF Q, omni chat
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 08:51:37 -0500
thanks for the interesting insights.
I hadn't considered the railroad train example, but when the source is
far off to one side, the two mics would pick up an almost identical
signal, huh!?!
Regarding NOS: I didn't think there was to be a baffle between the
mics, but when I record out-of-doors with near-coincident mics I have to
use windscreens, and they take up enough space that I just assumed that
was what the 30cm was for between capsules. How could one record in an
x/y configuration with foam windscreens, just increase the vertical gap
until the screens don't touch each other?
I use ORTF for almost everything- my KM140's have a fixed 110 degree
adaptor and it's a snap to set up. As long as I'm close enough I seem
to get a nice stereo spread.
thanks again for the tips!
-tom
On Monday, September 3, 2001, at 12:50 PM, Digestifier wrote:
>
> From: Tom McCreadie <mccreadi@simplex.nl>
> Subject: Re: ORTF Q
> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 01:02:08 +0200
>
> Tom on omni mics in #29:
>
> << I would think a range of 5-20 feet would be best for most
> applications.
> . . too close and you get the same sound, too far apart, and the ambient
> sounds near one channel will have so little in common with the other
> that
> there may be a perception of a gulf between them, an unnaturally wide
> stereo image....>>
>
> Tom, when you get round to running trials with the above widely spaced
> array, you will soon discover all sorts of anomalies...unconvincing
> image
> which swims like a fish, huge hole in the middle etc.
>
> If you want some omni-food for thought, set your spaced omni's parallel
> to
> a tram- or railway track and make a recording of a clanking tram or
> whistling train approaching from the left distance and receding into the
> far right distance. Played over your home speakers, the vehicle will
> appear
> to start quietly from the centre; move slowly across to the L speaker;
> reverse direction and head back to the middle; make a loud quick jump
> across the central chasm; head slowly for the R speaker, then again
> reverse
> direction, to die out back at dead centre. And our poor brains also
> have to
> reconcile this drunken meandering with the Doppler effect <g>.
>
> In my experience, the safest compromise spacing for a non-baffled omni
> pair
> is about 50 cm. Sure, the imaging is still wuzzy but that's the
> conscious-trade off you make for the generally superior omni tone. You
> will
> get much better imaging by using a central baffle plate, such as a
> Jecklin
> disk, and the omni's then spaced 18 cm, but this technique also has some
> down-sides - e.g. not fully loudspeaker compatible...until you apply
> some
> corrections.
>
> And on NOS:
> <<...hope this helps, I have recently received tapes recorded in the NOS
> configuration, near as I can figure, that's like coincident x/y but with
> space between the mics for a windscreen.>>
>
> The Dutch NOS is semi-coincident cardioids, angling 90 deg, spacing 30
> cm,
> with no baffles or "windscreens". Think of that technique as being Avis
> car
> rental compared to the ORTF's Hertz ...number two and less popular, but
> more or less as as effective. In semi-coincident recording, there are
> other
> angling/spacing combo's which have been used to good effect, e.g.
> cardioids
> at 120 deg / 7 cm. In general you can increase the stereo width by
> either
> angling the mics outwards or by increasing the spacing. If you opt do
> it by
> means of spacing, then you tend to get a less solid central image.
>
> --
> Tom
>
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From: "J. Van" <jvan@bcm.tmc.edu>
Subject: ISO: AC adapter/recharger for PCM-M1
Reply-To: "J. Van" <jvan@bcm.tmc.edu>
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 11:40:17 -0500
My M1's wall wart and smartcharger were stolen last weekend... Anyone know
where I can pick up a replacement?
john
From: eric nelson <EyeandIGlass@netzero.net>
Subject: paging Janet Carella...
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2001 12:58:45 -0400
sorry for the public post, but I no longer have your email address and
there is no link to it from your phishhook page... could you please
drop me a line, I have a question about a trade we made. Thanks,
Eric
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