DAT-heads Digest #33
Contents:
great deal on a tascam DA20MKII DAT ("John Kupchik")
Gypsy Summer 2001 (Masato Kato)
ISO GD 11-4-79 (RAM110@aol.com)
Re: direct tv and dish network digital audio (RWhiteFang@aol.com)
Re: AC adapter/recharger for PCM-M1 ("matt Sohn")
Problems with Sony DGs ("Doug Nawrocki")
Burning 48k to CD (Jason Neely)
Rock n Roll b&P yet again .. ("seethreepo2")
AudioExcel Card ("David Ingram")
FS: Fibox mic pre (Repost) (Erich S)
tascam da-20 sale (randy@monkeybiz.Stanford.EDU)
ISO: Holly Cole tapers (Karl-Heinz Kuth)
24/laptop taping ("Derek Swingley")
Re: Mic upgrade question (acffhmorst)
Re: "line input vs. mic input" w/CSBs & bass roll off filter (Len Moskowitz)
TASCAM DA-20 doubts? would you go for it? (Eduardo Malvido)
WT 2496 problems playing audio files (Chris Bozzelli)
RE: "line input vs. mic input" w/CSBs & bass roll off filter (Bill Shaw)
extra Susan Tedeschi DAT for B+P ("Dan Greenberg")
TOOL: Advanced Tickets Opportunity ("Tatina, Bill")
Roth at Bumbershoot ("Ryan McDaniel")
From: "John Kupchik" <blueskied@hotmail.com>
Subject: great deal on a tascam DA20MKII DAT
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 21:37:55 -1000
found this just a bit ago, thought this could help some of you out. =
Would make a great purchase for a unidecker!!! Great deck at a great =
price ($499) plus free UPS ground shipping!! Can't beat it.
check it out
http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.TASDA20MKIIB&z=3D1160444649432
cheers,
john
From: Masato Kato <love-0nl@wellmet.or.jp>
Subject: Gypsy Summer 2001
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 17:19:52 +0900
I have some tapes of a series of concerts called "Gypsy Summer 2001".
08-24-2001 Taraf De Haidouks Buenos Tokyo
08-31-2001 Taraf De Haidouks Club Quattro
09-01-2001 Kocani Orkestar Club Asia
09-02-2001 "Gypsy Summer" Special Concert at Shibuya-AX
Set 1: Kocani Orkestar
Set 2: Taraf De Haidouks
Set 3: Taraf + Kocani
09-04-2001 Kocani Orkestar Musashino Civic Hall 105min.
I am interested in trading these tapes for another shows of
these bands. If you are interested in them but does not have
any tape of these bands, you'll have no problem as long as
you have Grateful Dead or Bob Dylan tapes. I am also looking for
some best quality Chieftains tapes. I have 3 shows in Tokyo
last May.
If you want to know the details of these recordings (length, quality,
equipment, etc) , please send me an e-mail.
Masato Kato
<Love-0nl@wellmet.or.jp>
Love Minus Zero/No Limit
From: RAM110@aol.com
Subject: ISO GD 11-4-79
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 06:24:47 EDT
GD 11-4-70 Prov Civic Center. I know there is a great copy out there
somewhere! I have 2 cuts as a filer. Bob M RAM110@aol.com
From: RWhiteFang@aol.com
Subject: Re: direct tv and dish network digital audio
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 06:43:57 EDT
JR, re:
<< I did some research on this myself, but your question is obvious. If your
DSS unit has optical out, then you can bet the farm it's 44.1k 16 bit.
Haven't seen a unit with coaxial digital out yet. the 44.1k signal is also
coded with Dolby Digital when applicable.
The Hughes Platinum box has both a Coaxial and Optical output... (probably
also one of the most drop out free brand of boxes I've encountered--although
the menu system is a bit simple--but who cares)
-wf
From: "matt Sohn" <mahatma@megsinet.net>
Subject: Re: AC adapter/recharger for PCM-M1
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2001 21:23:05 -0500
>From: "J. Van" <jvan@bcm.tmc.edu>
>My M1's wall wart and smartcharger were stolen last weekend... Anyone know
>where I can pick up a replacement?
>
>
>john
Sony Parts: (800) 488-7669
They charge $6.95 for shipping. I just got 2 for my D-8 and they were about
$25 ea.
-mahatma
From: "Doug Nawrocki" <dnawrocki@cinci.rr.com>
Subject: Problems with Sony DGs
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:31:52 -0400
Hey All,
I thought for a while that my Delta Audiophile was having a problem
adding clicks into stuff I was transferring but that seems odd considering
it successfully transferred several shows prior. I'm thinking it's my DA-P1.
Besides than just that, all the shows that I seem to have issues with are on
Sony data grades. I've used Maxell HS-4s, Verbatim DataLifes and Quantegy
Audio Tapes and all seem to have transferred without incident. I've had
issues with a Phil seed and a SCI seed, all on Sonys. The diginoise is
always in the form of pops. Could my deck be picky about the dats I'm
feeding it? Could it be time to service the deck? Could this all be
coincidence and it's more than likely really the soundcard? Thanks for any
help!
Peace,
Doug
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From: Jason Neely <bondibox@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Burning 48k to CD
Reply-To: bondibox@bellsouth.net
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 12:33:33 -0400
I've noticed that when I drop a 48k .wav onto the Toast application (I
use a Mac) it converts it to a 44.1k .aif (it will always convert a wav
to aif in order to burn it).
My question is, does Toast do a good enough job at this? Should I go
through one of my sound editing programs, or even the internal crystal
clock of my Midiman sound card? If resampling leaves "artifacts", does
it leave different artifacts according to the medium used to resample?
-jas
From: "seethreepo2" <seethreepo2@home.com>
Subject: Rock n Roll b&P yet again ..
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 09:41:01 -0700
I've got the following shows for b&P or
alternately I'll trade for the following
Black Crowes - any pre 98 not on my list
Govt Mule - any sbds (complete)
2001 ABB - beacon run
robert plant & strange sensation - any
Please dont offer anything not on the above list except of course blanks &
postage
(please keep in mind I live in Canada and as such need $ not stamps for
postage.unless of course you are a canuck !)
These all played fine on my decks and are all on name brand tapes which is
what I need in return
tesla 4-5-01 boston core sound heb
u2 winnipeg mb 6-12-97 at822
greg allman 5-2-98 osaka unkn mics
def leppard 7-20-00 core sound heb
Black Crowes tulsa ok 5-6-95
" " boston ma 10-26-96 microtech gefell m210's
" " SARATGOGA ny 7-6-97 at803b's
" " zurich 9-2-95 scheops ccm4's
cheers
CB
ps maybe someone else would care to do a rock b&P instead of just jam
bands...
nothin against jam bands I love a bunch of them but I live for rock n roll..
From: "David Ingram" <dattrader@ntown.com>
Subject: AudioExcel Card
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 00:11:40 -0400
Hello DatHeads,
A while back I purchased an AudioExcel soundcard on Ebay for roughly $10 in
hopes I could do some transfers with it. The chip has on it the following
information.
AudioExcel
CM8738/PCI
HRTF Audio Com
M9E38-033D
9943UGGD
To my dismay, there is only a standard S/PDIF coax out on the card. But, It
does have a jumper on it that is labeled OPTICAL S/PDIF I/O. It's 7-pin. So
my question is this, can I do anything with this card, or do I just have
another piece of junk hardware? Any help or info would be greatly
appreciated.
-Dave (dattrader@ntown.net)
From: Erich S <leaves1854@yahoo.com>
Subject: FS: Fibox mic pre (Repost)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 10:30:07 -0700 (PDT)
Hey everyone. I posted about this Fibox preamp I have
for sale a few days ago. It's quite a deal a for
anyone who wants it. Would like to get at least $500
for it. $500 is 1/3 the price of it new, which it is.
Cost me a bit more than that. Here's the info, if
you're not interested but know someone who may be,
please pass this info on to them (I need da cash)
LIGHTWAVE Systems, Inc. - Fibox system including:
-FBAI-M, a 20-bit A/D 2-channel fiber-optic interface
with mic preamps; The Mic input box (stereo XLR)
-FBAO-M, a fiber-optic interface that outputs
2-channel analog audio through a 20-bit D/A converter;
the Mic output box. (Stereo XLR)
Balanced XLR in, balanced XLR out, can pass very high
quality digital signal down 3 miles of fiber with NO
LOSS and provide 48V phantom power at the source.
Perfect for remote recording. Interconnects between
any ST (straight through) optical fiber I/O cable
(comes with a 12' ST fiber cable) Brand new out of the
box (literally), only used one time to make sure it
works, which it does. Includes wall warts for both
boxes, manual, and origional packaging. A rep. through
the comp. I work at made me a great deal on it. It's
really cool, but it's not what I need at the moment.
Would be ideal for a semi-permanent install in a club
or an onstage taper. Here's a link for more info on
the product:
http://www.lightwavesys.com/news/Jun_1995.htm
List for $1499; could be yours for $500 OBO. I'll
cover shipping.
Peace
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From: randy@monkeybiz.Stanford.EDU
Subject: tascam da-20 sale
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 10:40:56 -0700 (PDT)
some of you might be interested in this--
Tascam DA20MKII DAT Player and Recorder - $499.95 (B-Stock)
http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=p.TASDA20MKIIB&a=em090401
From: Karl-Heinz Kuth <khkuth@01019freenet.de>
Subject: ISO: Holly Cole tapers
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 19:45:59 +0200
Dear DAT-Heads,
I'm looking for Holly Cole tapers of her upcoming shows:
Nov 9 - 10 Osaka, Japan
Nov 12 - 14 Fukuoka, Japan
Nov 15 - 17 Tokyo, Japan
Nov 23 - 24 Halifax, NS
Dec 3 - 4 Edmonton, AB
Dec 5 - 6 Vancouver, BC
Dec 8 Kelowna, BC
Dec 10 Calgary, AB
Dec 11 Winnipeg, MB
Dec 12 Saskatoon, SK
Have lots of stuff to trade.
Bye
Karl-Heinz
From: "Derek Swingley" <fluffmasterflex@hotmail.com>
Subject: 24/laptop taping
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 14:03:48 -0500
I'll start off by saying that I am somewhat new to the taping world but I
have learned a great deal in a relatively short period of time. First off,
I would like to say that anyone who is considering making the jump to
laptop/24 bit taping should not hesitate. While some units are still quite
pricey at this juncture, 90% of the necessary components are very
affordable. For example, I recently picked up a digigram vx pocket for $403
including shipping. Also, I have a Sony vaio picturebook C1-VN on the way
for $1150. This was all made possible by a man named dan heend. You may
know dan from such websites as www.daarwin24.com and www.24bitfag.org.
Great stuff. Especially be sure to check out his hotpicks (where I got my
vx pocket for such a great deal :). Also, Dan will personally modify a
picturebook for you to have a 30 gig harddrive, 256 megs of RAM, among other
things like installing win2K and his recording build: Daarwin24 and
C.L.E.A.R. Who remembers seeing these components at sonicsense.com for a
short while? I do. I am not bashing anyone in any way but I really dislike
paying for more than what is necessary. I would rather piece my new rig
together than buy a "package" from a vendor who really has no experience in
the computer world. Although some may claim that the 24 bit FAQ is lengthy,
it is all necessary and is not only directed at laptop taping but also at
taping in general. I feel that Dan has done a wonderful job. Well, there's
my rant, sorry for all the text but I just couldn't keep this to myself.
Have fun!
Peace,
Derek
From: acffhmorst <morst@itis.com>
Subject: Re: Mic upgrade question
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 13:33:08 -0500
This would not be totally crazy. You will be able to make recordings
which will be quite good, of course there's always room for
improvement! Having to use the mic preamp in the M1 would make a few
possible upgrade paths clear: an outboard preamp, preferably one where
you could set left and right channel levels separately. I suppose you
could run the mics directly into the 1/4" jacks on a SBM-1, and use its
mic preamps, but I would think you could get higher quality results by
upgrading the preamp before the a>d converters.
Isn't there something called a Billbox, AKA Reutelhuber (sp?) which
could provide phantom power and fixed preamplification in a tiny
package? If you aren't willing to tote a full-sized portable outboard
preamp perhaps you would be happy with the sonic/size compromise that
the Billbox seems to offer. I have never seen the thing in person, but
I gather that it's very stealthy. I have heard tapes from it, and
believe that it probably is better than the M1, most likely noticeable
in the noise floor department, but also I would hope that the Billbox
can handle higher input levels that the M1's. . .I bet the billbox can't
pan though. . . if someone knows the details of the billbox, please post
a link and elucidate me!
Hope this helps. You're considering some very nice microphones, I hope
you are happy with your results!
-tom
>
> From: brn2rnTR@netscape.net (Thomas Rosander)
> (snip!)
> The mics I consider to buy is MBHO 603a/KA200N and Neuman SKM140,
> plus a Denecke PS2 for either one.
> (snip!)
> I plan to run the mics directly from the PS2 into the mic pre of my
> Oade M1.
> Would this be totally crazy, or not? Stealth is important here and I
> don?t like to carry around a lot of boxes.
>
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From: Len Moskowitz <moskowit@panix.com>
Subject: Re: "line input vs. mic input" w/CSBs & bass roll off filter
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:20:37 -0400 (EDT)
"John Kupchik" <blueskied@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have been taping my CSBs>Bass Roll-off Filter>Line input of D8. Should
> I be going into the Mic input??? Do I REALLY need an attenuator cable? I
> had no idea the roll off filter shouldn't go into the line input. ...
The CSB bass roll-off filter is designed to work into the Mic input's
4.7k impedance. If you run it into the Line input's 47k Ohm impedance,
the filter becomes completely ineffective; it's as if the filter is not
even there.
That's why we recommend that if you need the filter, and would overload
the Mic pre-amp input when recording loud sound sources, that you use a
20 dB attenuator cable between the mics and the Mic input.
I hope this helped!
Len Moskowitz Binaural and StealthMics (tm), Cables, Interfaces
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey http://www.core-sound.com
moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912
From: Eduardo Malvido <eduardomalvido@yahoo.com>
Subject: TASCAM DA-20 doubts? would you go for it?
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 12:21:12 -0700 (PDT)
Hello
Im planning to get a Deck
saw a few, but the price odf the TASCAM DA-20 openbed
my eyes
Purpose: clones to start trading
I currently have a Sony M1 with the 7 pin I/O
>Tosslink
And also have a Midiman CO3
Is the DA-20 compatible with the midiman CO3
converting coaxial to Tosslink? viceversa too?
Or should I got for the DA-20 MKII?
What is the basic difference between
DA-20 and DA-20 MKII
Thanks
Ed :-)
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From: Chris Bozzelli <c_bozzelli@yahoo.com>
Subject: WT 2496 problems playing audio files
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 12:42:02 -0700 (PDT)
Hey folks,
Sorry for the OT post (B&P at the bottom). Got an
interesting problem ever since I installed some new
software- cubase VST 5 and wavelab 3.03...ever since
then, I'm not getting any sound from my WT when
playing audio files- in any program. The windows
noises still work, but .wav, mp3s, internet audio,
etc. appear to be playing in the program, but I don't
get any sound. I can play and record using digital in,
and the anaolg out works fine. I've tried every
combination of settings on the WT mixer, but nothing
seems to work-- Any help, computer people?
B&P- Trey Anastasio 7-22-01 TLM 170r (card)>V2>AD500e
I'll take the first three
~Chris
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From: Bill Shaw <Bill.Shaw@hds.com>
Subject: RE: "line input vs. mic input" w/CSBs & bass roll off filter
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 12:54:08 -0700
it was written:
=======================================================================
I came across this bit of info on the Core Sound page (under the =
Attenuator cable section) which sorta confused me:
"And if you want to use a bass roll-off filter with your microphones , =
you can't use the Line input because its impedance is too high for the =
filter, so you should again be using an attenuator cable with the Mic =
input."
I have been taping my CSBs>Bass Roll-off Filter>Line input of D8. Should =
I be going into the Mic input??? Do I REALLY need an attenuator cable? I =
had no idea the roll off filter shouldn't go into the line input. I =
think my tapes sound pretty good into the line input, albeit I have to =
add EQ to boost the bass and highs when playing them back.
========================================================================
I don't have the setup you have but I do have a couple of comments:
1. If something is working for you, like using the bass roll-off with line
in, well then let the good time roll! If it ain't broke, yada yada yada...
2. WHY are you using the bass roll-off in the first place if you need to
boost the bass later during playback??
My philosophy with regard to bass roll-offs and other "high pass" filters,
is to get as much signal/information as possible during the mastering (ie:
don't use the filters!). Then if the bass (or anything else) needs
tweaking, EQ it later!! (yes, there will be exceptions, such as really
boomy auditoriums, and the like, but *in general* I do not use any
filters/roll-offs while mastering).
Seems to me you're filtering out the bass while mastering, then adding it
back in post show. Again, why take it out if yer gonna add it back in
later???
Bill
From: "Dan Greenberg" <letitgro@warwick.net>
Subject: extra Susan Tedeschi DAT for B+P
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 17:26:08 -0400
This is for one KAO 60m DAT of Susan Tedeschi
in Charlotte 8/4 & Atlanta 8/5. It is her full set
(~52 min. each) at each show as she opened for
the ABB & Phil'nfriends.
In return, I'd like one sealed blank Sony or Maxell
(either 60m or 90m) DAT plus postage.
First to respond after the Digest hits my mailbox gets it
(unless you're willing to do B+P's for others...which I
will give preference to).
-Dan-
From: "Tatina, Bill" <Bill.Tatina@nordstrom.com>
Subject: TOOL: Advanced Tickets Opportunity
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 15:30:34 -0600
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From: "Ryan McDaniel" <Rmd@deainc.com>
Subject: Roth at Bumbershoot
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 14:37:03 -0700
I got this show, but I couldn't get close enough to the stacks and I was =
inundated with the type of screamers you'd expect at a Roth show. Does =
anyone have a good copy? I have other stuff that turned out well to =
trade. Taped with Sonics and a D8.
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